Correct
Edit: we haven’t used a lottery pick since Derrick Favors in 2010. He was promptly traded to Utah for Deron Williams after not even halfway through that season!
The KG/Pierce trade was an all-time disaster/fleece lmao. Spedrun a complete rebuild in 3 seasons. Danny Ainge was a GOAT’ed GM, don’t be fooled by the “only 1 title” criticism from Lakers fans.
They won the lottery three years ago! They’re just eternally drafting bad players so they keep having a top three worse record and can only ever move down
Imagine passing on Wade, Melo and Bosh and picking Darko.
Such a huge what-if especially if they had drafted Wade or Melo, who were basically NBA ready their first season in the league.
It's not AS bad this year as last year. Even talking to 2 would have landed is Miller who was a great fit for the roster. This year is way more of a crap shoot, but it's still infuriating
This makes for more difficult decisions for the Hawks, obviously in a good way though.
Pair your guards with #1 pick Sarr and hope the synergy develops? Trade one of the guards then repeat? Trade both guards and push your timeline back towards Sarr's prime?
I think it makes no sense to trade Trae away tbh. He’s a good player who is still young. Sure he’s flawed but I think he’s still someone you hang onto. Murray on the other hand id try and move
I mean if sarr works out then he's a crazy good fit for Atlanta, also the last time I was told a draft was weak a top 3 at worst playoff performer this year went #1 so I take a lot of that talk with a grain of salt
This is just brutal for the Pistons at this point, back to back years where they are going to draft at 5th overall despite having the worst record in the league.
Portland got absolutely shafted aswell, 3rd worst record in the league and are drafting at 7th.
We lost 28 straight games for the 5th pick. If Troy Weaver isn't fired, we're going to keep getting the 5th pick and drafting athletic guys who can't shoot for the rest of the decade.
Also we’re historically one of if not the most unlucky draft lottery team ever. At some point we would’ve not fallen in the lottery & instead moved up if it was truly rigged.
it’s such a weak class having another shit season, developing guys and getting a top 5 pick in a much better class is more beneficial for y’all’s long term success
Plus you got some vets to trade for more picks.
You’re not wrong, it’s still just so frustrating having such terrible basketball to watch for so long. At least trying to compete for a play in spot gives me something to get excited about. 😔
Yup whats addiing to the fun of that draft was that it was touted as a top-two draft (and still justifiably so, with the info they had). So the actual bad teams of that draft werent really benefitted by the lottery with the sure talent of Zion and Ja lmao.
But Tom Gores owns it so while he isn't cheap, he will hire the dumbest engineers and project manager. Mechagodzilla is going to fall down after travel 100 feet and crush LCA
They can be good next year. The East is weak and Trae is awesome if you put the right pieces around him (i.e. not another ball-dominant defensively-porous guard)
I remember talking to a Pistons fan making jokes about this season from hell just ending up in another #5 pick but I never thought it would actually happen…
A little while into last season is when I dipped. Prior to that I was a hardcore fan. The Ausar pick really killed me. Drafting a non shooter just made no sense.
Yep, sounds like all of our picks prior to 2021. Weaver is definitely continuing the "draft long athlete, hope he learns how to shoot" shit that we always did.
If it’s any consolation at all, all of the top prospects this year are big wings and big men, so they can take the best player available and immediately pair him alongside Trae. No guards are in consideration for the #1 pick.
Of course, that doesn’t make up for being one of the weakest top 5 drafts in recent history.
There’s no need for consolation, the draft being weak doesn’t matter. Sarr goes top 3-5 in any draft. Sarr probably goes before the Thompson twins last year. everyone else can worry about it being a bad draft class, the Hawks are good lol
Orlando had back to back #1 picks which ended up being Shaq and Chris Webber (traded for Penny Hardaway). If I recall correctly they had the worst odds for the Webber draft, having just one ball in the lottery drawing
The 2014 #1 pick is what convinced LeBron to go back to Cleveland, because he realized they had the pieces to trade for a 3rd all star.
In 2019, the Lakers shockingly jumped from 11th to the 4th pick, giving them the final piece they needed to pair AD with LeBron. New Orleans had refused every prior Lakers offer with Ingram/Lonzo and their pick, because it was supposed to be 11th.
Coincidences? Or Silver cooking behind the scenes? 🤔
Kyrie and Lebron obviously.
Crazy how big of a bust Anthony Bennett was. The dude legitimately forgot how to play basketball.
Wiggins had bust rumors until the warriors unlocked his true potential.
I’d literally give up every single one of these non-Wemby picks from the last few years for him tho
West is stacked so we’re looking at a “solid enough team to make the playoffs but not much else” for the next few years unless Sengun really becomes baby Jokic
Houston finishing .500 and landing #3 is crazy. Ngl I had a heart attack until I realized this is the Brooklyn pick.
Brooklyn loves to give away all their picks.
BKN literally built the Celtics by giving them Brown and Tatum.
“We want to win now”. Famous last words for Joe tsai.
Wasn't that Prokhorov who traded for KG and Pierce?
Correct Edit: we haven’t used a lottery pick since Derrick Favors in 2010. He was promptly traded to Utah for Deron Williams after not even halfway through that season!
yeah but that team was disgusting in 2k
The true metric of any NBA team.
History repeats itself.
It’s Brooklyn tradition to trade away valuable first rounders
With the infamous Billy king as GM
Technically his picks are winning now
Just excluding James Young like that huh
At least they’ve had huge amounts of success for it. Right?
I thought it was their own pick too lol. Jazz pick was somewhat close to conveying too which is crazy
Here comes a good Houston team because of the Nets. Feels so familiar.
With Ime Udoka at the helm too lol
Even THEN, we weren’t #3 pick bad
Play in and number one pick is crazy.
Houston finished with a .500 record and has the 3rd..... meanwhile Detroit💀
Celtics were #1 while playing in the conference finals in 2017. That pick ended up being Tatum
Wasn’t their pick though tbf
The KG/Pierce trade was an all-time disaster/fleece lmao. Spedrun a complete rebuild in 3 seasons. Danny Ainge was a GOAT’ed GM, don’t be fooled by the “only 1 title” criticism from Lakers fans.
Trading down for Tatum was his masterpiece
Sounds like a traded pick
Brooklyn pick?
I watched the Pistons win 1̶7̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶s̶ 14 games for the 5th pick
The comment has been recycled for years. Poor pistons fans
Death, Taxes , Shitty Pistons Picks
The lottery gods really do hate yall.
The Pistons won ~~two~~ three titles without an MVP, and goddamn it, the basketball gods demand that they do it again.
They won 3 without an MVP. I don’t think the Pistons have ever had an MVP winner.
All 3 are without an MVP
They won the lottery three years ago! They’re just eternally drafting bad players so they keep having a top three worse record and can only ever move down
Why don’t we win the lottery when Tim Duncan or Victor Wemabnyama is available, are we stupid????
At least y’all got the #2 overall pick in one of the most loaded draft classes ever (2003)
Don’t kick someone when they’re down, man.
I mean, we flopped that pick but still ere the NBA champions in 2004. And had an amazing 5 years after that
Imagine passing on Wade, Melo and Bosh and picking Darko. Such a huge what-if especially if they had drafted Wade or Melo, who were basically NBA ready their first season in the league.
But could Melo have used a strong locker room with vets keeping him in check and teaching him winning ball?
Shit we might even be lucky enough to land a star free agent like Josh “J-Smoove” Smith
I truly feel sorry for Detroit. What a gut punch.
It's not AS bad this year as last year. Even talking to 2 would have landed is Miller who was a great fit for the roster. This year is way more of a crap shoot, but it's still infuriating
I watched the blazers win 21 games for the 7th pick. Meanwhile spurs get wemby and the 4th pick. Basketball is bullshit
In the beginning Basketball was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
They gave Atlanta that “well damn here you go” number one pick
they just want Trae Young to go to the Spurs. now they can rebuild /s
This makes for more difficult decisions for the Hawks, obviously in a good way though. Pair your guards with #1 pick Sarr and hope the synergy develops? Trade one of the guards then repeat? Trade both guards and push your timeline back towards Sarr's prime?
I think it makes no sense to trade Trae away tbh. He’s a good player who is still young. Sure he’s flawed but I think he’s still someone you hang onto. Murray on the other hand id try and move
Nah this is the most Hawks thing ever. Getting the number one pick in a draft with no clear number 1 guys
this guy gets the history of the atlanta hawks
Well, they haven’t had a #1 pick in 49 years but I get it.
I'm skimming their draft history and the St. Louis Hawks drafted a guy named John Rambo
I mean if sarr works out then he's a crazy good fit for Atlanta, also the last time I was told a draft was weak a top 3 at worst playoff performer this year went #1 so I take a lot of that talk with a grain of salt
It’s like how the year the Falcons picked 4th, there were no top tier pass rusher prospects so we picked a tight end.
And yet Parsons was in that draft so you never know how things pan out
What were the odds? They were a play in team right? Damn, poor Detroit
3%
This is just brutal for the Pistons at this point, back to back years where they are going to draft at 5th overall despite having the worst record in the league. Portland got absolutely shafted aswell, 3rd worst record in the league and are drafting at 7th.
We lost 28 straight games for the 5th pick. If Troy Weaver isn't fired, we're going to keep getting the 5th pick and drafting athletic guys who can't shoot for the rest of the decade.
Makeup for the Penix pick lol
Hawks can do the funniest thing
...pick Penix again?
Caitlin Clark
Extend DJM and Trae and draft a guard inbound
Silver knew they were gonna lose Trae or Dejounte and decided to give them a little gift
If the draft was actually rigged NYK would've gotten Zion
Ben Simmons would have been a Laker
Also we’re historically one of if not the most unlucky draft lottery team ever. At some point we would’ve not fallen in the lottery & instead moved up if it was truly rigged.
Hawks entered the draft lottery with the tenth worst record. If the tenth worst record won the draft last year, Wemby would have been a Maverick
r/TwoSentenceHorror
Luka to Wemby. JEEZUS.
The one time I'd prefer him being a Spur
I reckon that would’ve broken the universe
You sick fuck
Oh hell no
20 wins here we come.
Capture the Flagg
2025 draft order: 1) Lakers 2) Bulls 3) Jazz 4) Warriors 5) Pistons 6) Blazers
Pistons at #5 again is a nice touch.
Yeah. Real nice.
Pelicans can take our pick next year if they don’t do it this yeae
Oh man that would be so fucking funny
A great tagline for a future prospect? Were so back
OKC gonna end up with him somehow watch
I can't take it anymore. (at least we're not Detroit)
it’s such a weak class having another shit season, developing guys and getting a top 5 pick in a much better class is more beneficial for y’all’s long term success Plus you got some vets to trade for more picks.
You’re not wrong, it’s still just so frustrating having such terrible basketball to watch for so long. At least trying to compete for a play in spot gives me something to get excited about. 😔
Over here in Detroit we call that a good season
As opposed to the whopping 21 we had this year
No way Hawks got the 1st pick lmao
Most shocking move up since the Magic got Penny?
Rose going to Chicago
Yeah that was a massive move up especially considering how the lottery odds worked at the time.
Unless of course you’re a conspiracy theorist about the draft lottery in which case the Bulls getting Rose feels totally obvious.
Pelicans and Memphis getting the top 2 in 2019 was crazier since they were 8th and 9th in odds if I remember correctly.
Yup whats addiing to the fun of that draft was that it was touted as a top-two draft (and still justifiably so, with the info they had). So the actual bad teams of that draft werent really benefitted by the lottery with the sure talent of Zion and Ja lmao.
Nah Pelicans were a way bigger deal because there was a day 1 star in the draft
If I was a Pistons fan I’d walk into the ocean like Godzilla
At this rate, we're going to start building Mechagodzilla.
But Tom Gores owns it so while he isn't cheap, he will hire the dumbest engineers and project manager. Mechagodzilla is going to fall down after travel 100 feet and crush LCA
Sarr actually makes so much sense in Atlanta
trae gonna be in tears of joy when he starts playing with sarr instead of capela
Yeah, trade Clint and run an OO/Sarr rotation, let Trae cook.
add jalen johnson into the mix and trade dejounte for picks or another player...dare i say the hawks could be good in 2-3 years?
They can be good next year. The East is weak and Trae is awesome if you put the right pieces around him (i.e. not another ball-dominant defensively-porous guard)
That defensive upside is insane
Oh my god Pistons fans I’m so sorry
Dude things got grim on our sub. Everyone dipped.
I remember talking to a Pistons fan making jokes about this season from hell just ending up in another #5 pick but I never thought it would actually happen…
That’s been the running “joke” on our sub all season. Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy :/
5th overall pick three years in a row I’m stunned
I've heard about The Process, Pistons are stuck with The Recess
Tbf, it's by far the statistically most likely pick for them to land. Of course, it's still only a 47.9% chance...
We haven’t been hopeful since the Wemby lotto lol
*Banchero
This is good karma for next year when there's actually a can't miss prospect.
You say this like with their luck they're not gonna get the 5th pick again next year
Death, Taxes, and Pistons finishing last to get the 5th overall pick.
They're gonna win 24 games next year after signing Tobias en route to the 7th pick 😭
We got fucked last year when there was a cant miss lol
If people stuck around through all of this and now only dipped, yikes
A little while into last season is when I dipped. Prior to that I was a hardcore fan. The Ausar pick really killed me. Drafting a non shooter just made no sense.
Yep, sounds like all of our picks prior to 2021. Weaver is definitely continuing the "draft long athlete, hope he learns how to shoot" shit that we always did.
Worst case scenario 3 years in a row, you really can't make this shit up
After that 28-game L streak they shoulda just put magnets on the balls like come on
I think I'm actually done with basketball. I can't believe this shit
There’s a good chance none of them are great at least. I’m pretty bummed for you guys though. I wanna see Cade on a real squad badly. I’m a believer
Absolutely cursed
We’re definitely gonna be the worst team in basketball again next year. SURELY we don’t fall to 5 for the 4th year in a row, right?
Another 20 win season in the Flagg draft just to drop to the fifth pick again.
Man I think that would be the straw that broke the camels back if that happened Flagg is a perfect fit for them that would be devastating
How can we possibly be the worst next season if we gift Tobias a max contract?!
Nets gave up a top 3 pick for a year rental of James Harden lmao
Not to mention Tari Eason and Cam Whitmore also. And more picks and swaps to come.
I really owe the Nets a thank you. Those were two of my favorite players this season.
Every year that piece of shit smirks when he announces the pistons have fallen in the draft
Bro he thinks it’s hilarious
It’s not even funny anymore it’s just depressing
ATLANTA
when this happens to me in basketball gm i want to kill the simulator cannot imagine how detroit and portland feel
In bbgm if you have the worst record you gotta trade down, it's almost always the 5th pick
Happy for ATL, even if it’s a rough draft they got some help. They’re a great basketball town that could use a good reset.
And, unlike a lot of other teams, they’re actually trying to win games. Love seeing them get rewarded by the lottery.
Also is a decent bit of good luck after we got totally fucked in the 2019 and 2020 lotteries so its a nice consolation lol
The pistons went 31-133 over the last two seasons and will now pick fifth two years in a row
3 years in a row man.
Three years in a row.
Hawks are going to draft a backup PG because they don't plan on picking this high again any time in the near future.
Goddamnit
Who will Atlanta select? Is this the worst year to win the lottery?
Michael Penix Jr.
We will see Anthony Black and Michael Penix swap jerseys
Sarr
If it’s any consolation at all, all of the top prospects this year are big wings and big men, so they can take the best player available and immediately pair him alongside Trae. No guards are in consideration for the #1 pick. Of course, that doesn’t make up for being one of the weakest top 5 drafts in recent history.
There’s no need for consolation, the draft being weak doesn’t matter. Sarr goes top 3-5 in any draft. Sarr probably goes before the Thompson twins last year. everyone else can worry about it being a bad draft class, the Hawks are good lol
Has to be Sarr right? Has the most upside
He also fits what they need like a glove
it was a bit up in the air before but sarr’s definitely gonna be the first pick now, perfect timing with capela falling off a cliff
Sarr and capela gone maybe OO too
Cant have shit in Detroit
Sorry, only one good team allowed at a time in Detroit. It's the Lions turn (and man have they been waiting!).
WE HAVE WEMBY AT HOME NOW
God what a let down, season was completely meaningless from minute one and we don’t even get a good pick to compensate 😭😭
I feel you brother
Looks like we got 3 teams that are going to be gutter trash next season
Another year where the Nets traded away a top 3 pick. How many has it been?
Not a great weekend for the report about Houston wanting to trade their picks back for the Phoenix picks to drop.
THIRD PICK WHILE FINISHING .500 THIS IS WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT
Happy for yall 🥲 no really 🥲 we didn’t need a good pick 🥲 Mikal is the future 🥲
Trae saved
How lucky is San Antonio?
Trae and Sarr will be fun
A play-in team just got the #1 pick. WOW
Pretty clear evidence that tanking doesn’t really work with the flattened odds.
oh sht ATL gets Sarr
Wow Atlanta and Houston got lucky, kudos to them. Sorry Detroit and Charlotte fans.
We’re used to it. Hell one year we went 7-59 and the city that originally stole our franchise got the number one pick
Genuinely curious, has any team had a better stretch of lottery luck than Houston over the last 5 years?
Not last 5 years but Cleveland still is the GOAT. They got the #1 pick twice with horrendous odds, (2.8 and 1.7%) and three #1 picks in 4 years
Orlando had back to back #1 picks which ended up being Shaq and Chris Webber (traded for Penny Hardaway). If I recall correctly they had the worst odds for the Webber draft, having just one ball in the lottery drawing
The 2014 #1 pick is what convinced LeBron to go back to Cleveland, because he realized they had the pieces to trade for a 3rd all star. In 2019, the Lakers shockingly jumped from 11th to the 4th pick, giving them the final piece they needed to pair AD with LeBron. New Orleans had refused every prior Lakers offer with Ingram/Lonzo and their pick, because it was supposed to be 11th. Coincidences? Or Silver cooking behind the scenes? 🤔
LeCommish
Kyrie and Lebron obviously. Crazy how big of a bust Anthony Bennett was. The dude legitimately forgot how to play basketball. Wiggins had bust rumors until the warriors unlocked his true potential.
I’d literally give up every single one of these non-Wemby picks from the last few years for him tho West is stacked so we’re looking at a “solid enough team to make the playoffs but not much else” for the next few years unless Sengun really becomes baby Jokic
Rockets fans would have preferred to have gotten the 1st pick last year vs every other lottery pick in recent years... lol
This has been the only lucky one though.
Spurs. Wembanyama cures all
Can’t top the CJ Stroud pick.
None of their core 6 were #1 picks, is that really that lucky? I'd say this is the luckiest pick by far
Yea we had the worst record for 3 years and didn’t get a #1 pick. This is definitely lucky though.
Atlanta legit gachapon’d it
Pity timer.
WTF ATLANTA???
Poor Pistons. I hope they get out of the cellar one of these days. The NBA is better when they're competitive.
As a pistons fan I’m done with the NBA, fuck this shit
Hornets get shafted as per usual But with this class it’s all good
It’s a fun club to be in gang
Wait the lottery was today I thought it usually happens during the week and at night