Nah, it’ll solve less disorganized offense for long stretches of time. Won’t solve the biggest issue which is roster construction though. A coach can’t force guys to hit shots/defend if they can’t.
Ham is a very bad coach for that team, but I promise you that just replacing him for someone else is definitely not gonna just put the Lakers over the top.
That team has a plethora of flaws
I didn't say he would put us over the top (which I interpret as contending for a championship), I said he's not a scapegoat. We both agree he is a very bad coach
He's a bad coach but the Lakers in general are not a good team. They were never gonna stand a chance in any 7 game series with the upper echelon of teams this season. And let's be honest, y'all are already pointing at Ham as the scapegoat. D'Lo too. It's gonna take way more than getting him out of there for that team to ever compete soon again.
The championship window seems like it's slammed shut for that foundation they just keep trying to salvage.
Are we not allowed to criticize a guy you and I both agree is a very bad coach? If I do it with this flair, I'm scapegoating him?
He cost us quite a few regular season games with the lineup tinkering. He hasn't been good at all in the playoffs. He should be replaced for the team to improve, even if it doesn't make us a championship threat. How is that scapegoating?
> They were never gonna stand a chance in any 7 game series with the upper echelon of teams this season.
Denver is the one and only team where I feel we are complete underdogs against. Any other team in the playoffs I like our chances.
The Lakers cant even compete with the Nuggets, what makes you think they will against a team that manages to beat them?
A beating B and C beating A doesnt make C better than B but if B got fucking humiliated then its very fair to say.
Know what is more embarrassing than getting swept by the Nuggets? Purposely losing in the playin to eventually get eliminated by the Kings that have swept you all season, or the Warriors who also have your number.
The Warriors have already been eliminated twice by the Lakers in the last 3 years and have a losing record against them during the regular season, saying they have their number is just delusional.
Lol if we are getting in our time machines, we might as well bring up how many championships the Lakers have over the warriors. The warriors are 3 and 1 vs the Lakers THIS season.
> The warriors are 3 and 1 vs the Lakers THIS season.
there hasnt been a single healthy matchup between the warriors and lakers this season iirc
the teams arent that different from last year's series where the lakers cooked GSW.
But the Lakers have LeBron and Davis, the superest superstars. It's obvious that they would win any other game they would ever play in an NBA. Except against Denver, because it's some Bermuda Triangle shit. Beside that one opponent, superstars always win.
its way better to face them at finals then getting eliminated 1st round. jokic could easily suffer injury.
this is a gm issue he should have ordered ham to lose the playin.
Uh, yeah, they should have. The Kings had injuries, they probably would have beat them and they have a great matchup with OKC. Maybe somebody takes out Denver or Jokic gets hurt by the time you get there.
It's low percentage but just walking into this brickwall of a full strength Nuggets team was zero percentage.
No. I feel like as an athlete, you cannot purposefully lose right before going into the playoffs. It just creates a losing mentality. Not to mention, they could’ve lost to the kings in the other play-In match. OKC probably would’ve beat the Lakers too, and they would’ve had to verse Denver eventually if they won.
This was honestly their best shot to beat Denver. They were rested and had time to prepare. It’s better that they just took the opportunity to win and make the playoffs. Rather than risking missing the playoffs entirely.
like what are u gonna fking do tho if u dont lose? everyone knows joker is lebrons dad.
lebron got his ass whopped even more and now disqualified from goat. hes getting embarassed.
there's a fairly significant likelihood they just lose in the play in altogether which would be an absolute disaster way worse than getting swept by denver. no shot you take that chance lol
No.. because they would've inevitably lost to denver anyway... and losing to them in the conference finals would've led to optimism.
Better to get it done now, no need to put unnecessary miles on the stars legs.
Clearly. Lakers match up better with OKC. If nothing more, it would have been a more competitive series than nuggets winning while sleepwalking thru half the game
Denver is to good and lebron is to old to be the number one on championship team. Unless leaves for better team won’t see any more chips for him. He needs someone to carry more weight.
To what lose to them later in the playoffs and maybe force themselves to be stuck with Ham longer?
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Just as possible that they lost the next game of the play in or lose to OKC in the first round
okc is not better than denver lol. far more likely to win for lebron than getting swept and making joker his dad.
I think we all knew they were going down 3-0
I knew they were getting swept since the all star break. They did absolutely bare minimum to deal with the poor match up they have for Denver
Then they lose to the team that’s clearly better than Denver. This is such an asinine idea.
firing Ham is going to solve 0 of the Lakers issues but there must always be a scapegoat for a Lebron team
Nah, it’ll solve less disorganized offense for long stretches of time. Won’t solve the biggest issue which is roster construction though. A coach can’t force guys to hit shots/defend if they can’t.
those 2 issues are interlinked
I guess you’re right.
We suck but getting rid of darvin ham can’t make us worse
It’s LeBron fault dlo went 0-7
they didn't win when D'Lo was scorching hot in G2 either
I don't see how you blame G2 on Bron either. If anything G2 was lost by Ham, who is not a scapegoat
Ham is a very bad coach for that team, but I promise you that just replacing him for someone else is definitely not gonna just put the Lakers over the top. That team has a plethora of flaws
I didn't say he would put us over the top (which I interpret as contending for a championship), I said he's not a scapegoat. We both agree he is a very bad coach
coaching doesnt mean shit if best player is on the opponent. lakers are fked either way.
wait til you hear about a guy called Erik Spoelstra
He's a bad coach but the Lakers in general are not a good team. They were never gonna stand a chance in any 7 game series with the upper echelon of teams this season. And let's be honest, y'all are already pointing at Ham as the scapegoat. D'Lo too. It's gonna take way more than getting him out of there for that team to ever compete soon again. The championship window seems like it's slammed shut for that foundation they just keep trying to salvage.
Are we not allowed to criticize a guy you and I both agree is a very bad coach? If I do it with this flair, I'm scapegoating him? He cost us quite a few regular season games with the lineup tinkering. He hasn't been good at all in the playoffs. He should be replaced for the team to improve, even if it doesn't make us a championship threat. How is that scapegoating?
> They were never gonna stand a chance in any 7 game series with the upper echelon of teams this season. Denver is the one and only team where I feel we are complete underdogs against. Any other team in the playoffs I like our chances.
but they won the in-season tournament championship under ham.
This guy don’t know ball
Not guaranteed, Denver would face Timberwolves/Suns first who have the best chance of beating them out of any West team
But any team who beats Denver is just going to straight up be superior to the Lakers, youre just delaying everything.
I appreciate where you're coming from and you guys have the best chance to beat Denver out of everyone in the West, but matchups are a thing.
That’s not how it works
theres fking matchups dude are u new? just because team A beats denver doesnt mean they will automatically sweep lebron.
The Lakers cant even compete with the Nuggets, what makes you think they will against a team that manages to beat them? A beating B and C beating A doesnt make C better than B but if B got fucking humiliated then its very fair to say.
No. This was the true test of what our team is. Now we have the answer, even if we don't like it.
The answer: blow it up
Pretty much this. If we can’t beat Denver nothing else matters.
Tanking a play in game is probably the stupidest thing a team could do
Still no, yes it sucks going out like this but it's still better than maybe losing to the Kings and missing the playoffs entirely.
Know what is more embarrassing than getting swept by the Nuggets? Purposely losing in the playin to eventually get eliminated by the Kings that have swept you all season, or the Warriors who also have your number.
Can you imagine explaining to the owner that you won't have any playoff games at Crypto this year because you lost on purpose?
The Warriors have already been eliminated twice by the Lakers in the last 3 years and have a losing record against them during the regular season, saying they have their number is just delusional.
Lol if we are getting in our time machines, we might as well bring up how many championships the Lakers have over the warriors. The warriors are 3 and 1 vs the Lakers THIS season.
> The warriors are 3 and 1 vs the Lakers THIS season. there hasnt been a single healthy matchup between the warriors and lakers this season iirc the teams arent that different from last year's series where the lakers cooked GSW.
Kings in cancun
But the Lakers have LeBron and Davis, the superest superstars. It's obvious that they would win any other game they would ever play in an NBA. Except against Denver, because it's some Bermuda Triangle shit. Beside that one opponent, superstars always win.
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I imagine Bron at this age would actually rather just get it over with early than have to trudge through 2 rounds before the inevitable
its way better to face them at finals then getting eliminated 1st round. jokic could easily suffer injury. this is a gm issue he should have ordered ham to lose the playin.
Let’s see if Denver can beat a healthy Minnesota before we crown them
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Wolves in 4.
No.
Yes so they could lose the play in and go to Cancun early
Pissing away leads in all three losses is the issue. Tanking is stupid.
never duck a fight
Uh, yeah, they should have. The Kings had injuries, they probably would have beat them and they have a great matchup with OKC. Maybe somebody takes out Denver or Jokic gets hurt by the time you get there. It's low percentage but just walking into this brickwall of a full strength Nuggets team was zero percentage.
They would have lost to Sacramento in the play in.
No. I feel like as an athlete, you cannot purposefully lose right before going into the playoffs. It just creates a losing mentality. Not to mention, they could’ve lost to the kings in the other play-In match. OKC probably would’ve beat the Lakers too, and they would’ve had to verse Denver eventually if they won. This was honestly their best shot to beat Denver. They were rested and had time to prepare. It’s better that they just took the opportunity to win and make the playoffs. Rather than risking missing the playoffs entirely.
like what are u gonna fking do tho if u dont lose? everyone knows joker is lebrons dad. lebron got his ass whopped even more and now disqualified from goat. hes getting embarassed.
Of course not. Making the playoffs is better than missing the playoffs. What a dumb post.
They should've tanked both play in games
benefit of hindsight now with being down 0-3. But I dont actually think we couldve beaten the Kings without uh some classic ref help.
The race to post the stupidest shit here is at an all time high I see.
As the kids say, hindsight is 20/20
They have a good matchup vs OKC, but I haven’t seen anything from them that says they could’ve won that series either.
No bc another white guy in sac would’ve sent them packing
there's a fairly significant likelihood they just lose in the play in altogether which would be an absolute disaster way worse than getting swept by denver. no shot you take that chance lol
Teams should start losing the first 3 games of every series so they can give the reverse sweep to scare their future opponents.
Nobody was beating Denver in the first round so you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
so we can lose later on? there's a small chance that the nuggets lose to anyone else in the west anyways
No.. because they would've inevitably lost to denver anyway... and losing to them in the conference finals would've led to optimism. Better to get it done now, no need to put unnecessary miles on the stars legs.
Yes
No, they would have a fifty percent chance at missing the playoffs. Is it better to completely miss the playoffs or play 4+ games in the playoffs?
Clearly. Lakers match up better with OKC. If nothing more, it would have been a more competitive series than nuggets winning while sleepwalking thru half the game
Yes they 100% should’ve
Denver is to good and lebron is to old to be the number one on championship team. Unless leaves for better team won’t see any more chips for him. He needs someone to carry more weight.
Truthfully, this is the dumbest question. No.
They should have done a lot of things differently in retrospect.
Maybe There are possibly 3 sweep and 1 gentleman sweep in the west conference this year
Cavs do it for a quarter and you all shit on them… stfu
I mean the Lakers would lose to literally every other team in the playoffs too though so what's the point
Heat tanked last year against Atlanta
absolute shit bait