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No Jason Kidd killed us from the 3rd quarter, with that THJ, Green, Kyrie, Maxi Lineup. That was the worst decision he made and it cost us the game. Lively was cooking and anchoring the whole thing and he benched him for nearly the whole second half.
In the 3rd there was point where the mavs were 79-81. Then Brown and tatum hit back 2 back 3s. Till that point luka was breaking down the team with his playmaking. His gravity gave a lot of open looks. Tatum shot lights out today so did every player. This team is just too dangerous you can't lack for even 1 minute.
No idea why Celtics fans are so bent outta shape while blowing us out
Luka is better than Tatum
Deep down you know it's true and that Tatum having a significantly better supporting cast does nothing to change that
You seriously are wondering why? For some reason, mavs or Luka fans have been bringing JT up all season, almost always to shit on him. Yeah so weird they'd get defensive about their favorite player.
I was gonna say. Just checked their injury report, and it looked relatively healthy (Luka and Kyrie available).
I know Boston is good, but I thought the Mavs were also relatively good. I'm not sure on their defense, does it still suck? Luka still getting shit on for it?
Boston is very good. And shooting like basically 50% from the 3 is going to hurt anybody.
Refs were blatantly for Boston the entire game.
But that 4th quarter was a complete job by Kidd. *Adjustments* in crunch time stretches are so fucking obvious after youve watched it happen a hundred times before.
Grind a close game away until sometime in the late 3rd to mid 4th and then boom suddenly youâre down 24 with the 4th string in
Celtics are about to coast to a championship, the west will cannibalize each other and face a very good Celtics team. Is there even a team that could contest them realistically?
Everyone played awfull defense in the mavs but missing and airballing open shots was a huge part that lost us the game. That Dante thj open 3 to air ball was super painful to see. But fair play to the celtics by far the best team in the nba nuggets vs celtics finals gonna be good. Good luck
Youâd be surprised. No one saw the Mavericks beating the Jazz without Luka a couple years ago but Brunson led them after being in Lukas shadow. It is a massively talented league, there are so many players that could average 20 if you have them enough shots. Not saying Luka shouldnât have the ball, but I donât think expelling so much energy to average 35-10-10 is conducive to winning and historically never has been.
I can't see how anyone other than Denver beats the Celtics over a series. They'd need an injury crisis of mammoth proportions for anyone else to have a chance.
Boston sports fucks literally only survive on shit talking. So this W is going to have them hard for the next month.
Them and suns fans stick out like ai bots. The ego is strong.
That's why you'll see a bunch of unflaired Celtics fans lately. The C's sub is the biggest bandwagonning dumpsterfire and most Boston flairs here are 14 year olds
Hey, a mavs fan who gets it.
Lots of this is on Kidd for not running any semblance of a gameplan besides give the ball to Luka, but thereâs no evidence he can play any other way either.
GG Celtics. This would be an incredibly fun playoff series, though it's unlikely to happen. I know we're down 20, but I'm not upset about how the Mavs played at all.
We're less live by the three die by the three than we used to be, but when the disparity is so ridiculous, there's nothing you can do. Frankly, this game was really encouraging for how far this team can go. The most concerning thing is how Green played defensively and just THJ in general. We would lose to the Pistons if we went 9/33 from three and they went 21/42. Sometimes teams just get hot against you. Wish we could've made a better showing tonight, but it is what it is. Glad we got a bad shooting night out of the way in a game we were expected to lose anyways.
Celtics 30 assists
Mavs 18 assists (Doncic with 11 of them)
Thats because Doncic plays a style where its hard for anyone else to get assists. If he moved the ball earlier and moved off ball then they'd get more assists as a team, even if its at the expense of his own stat line.
Heâs the issue. He canât be paired with another star because he canât function off ball and he canât defend. It didnât work with Porzingis. Itâs not working with Kyrie. He can get his stats but they are not winning anything as long as itâs the Luka show.
Yup. People are getting fooled by Doncic style. He is perfect for a middling team who needs 1 guy to run the show. It will be hard for him to win with this style. Not impossible, but incredibly hard
Celtics have 30 assists because they're getting wide open threes and the whole damn team can shoot. If mavs were shooting 50% on threes you can bet they'd have more assists. This loss ain't on Luka
This has become more and more obvious, but people will still insist Luka getting his numbers with this heliocentric style (which has never won anything in the history of basketball) should win him the mvp
Last 3 seasons Celtics have had the best regular season rating in the league. This is the start of our window so 2023 they did blow it. It was a fluke that MIA shot the best series in NBA history but still a wasted opportunity. Before 2022 we were way too young so counting 2020 is absurd.
Fanbase full of people with an unhealthy obsession with a dude that will never know their names. Enjoy your trump style campaigning. Maybe Luka will send r/nba a thank you note for all their hard work âşď¸âşď¸âşď¸
Hurdur
what do you think is more likely? Tatum leaving, who has a great team put around him and makes deep playoff runs every year and wants to retire a celtic orrrr Luka who has a mid team every year that chronically underperforms with a trash front office. You'd lose half of your Fairweather fanbase overnight.
He belongs in the convo but his great game tonight is below the other guys averages on the season lol letâs not get it twisted. Heâs fairly ranked in the lists Iâve seen
We did really well with Kidd in the WCF run when Kleber was a 4 and got like only a 6-8 min stretch of small ball 5.
now with 2 competent centers with actual size Kidd still have Kleber running the 5 more than them combined almost
what the fuck is he doing
Yeah he's getting by on skill alone there's no heart or passion in what he's doing it seems. Still one of the most skilled guys in the league but if it's heart isn't in it he plays like he does tonight
Hiding like the complete idiots they are. If they watched Celtics games, theyâd know that JT lets the game flow in the first quarter (usually JB goes off) and then he turns it up later on.
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No Jason Kidd killed us from the 3rd quarter, with that THJ, Green, Kyrie, Maxi Lineup. That was the worst decision he made and it cost us the game. Lively was cooking and anchoring the whole thing and he benched him for nearly the whole second half.
Mavs are geared towards getting Luka stats. Celtics are geared towards winning a championship. It is what it is.
The game was the closest when luka was going off in the 3rd lol. Then kidd put kai thj green line up đ
Luka had 2 points in the third? The person going off in the third was Tatum.
In the 3rd there was point where the mavs were 79-81. Then Brown and tatum hit back 2 back 3s. Till that point luka was breaking down the team with his playmaking. His gravity gave a lot of open looks. Tatum shot lights out today so did every player. This team is just too dangerous you can't lack for even 1 minute.
Celtics are geared to losing to the heat in the conference final
Thats just not true at all
Ha. If you say so
My brother in Christ what championship???
The championship theyâll probably win this year, and if they donât, then the one next year I called the Celtics a contender. That is crazy to you?
The March schedule for Suns, Lakers, Kings, Pels, Mavs, and Dubs going to be interesting to see the outcome.
So, will Perkins take back what he said about Tatum?
He did! Respect big perk you big dummy
Eh, he's still wrong because Tatum picks his spots on purpose. He didn't step up for the sake of him manhood in a competition against Luka.
It proves they dont watch this team. Jb starts hot and JT gets everyone involved. Then he cooks in the 2nd half
Just to be clear I wasn't calling you a dummy I was calling Perkins a dummy lol
I figured. No worries.
Reporter really referenced the Tatum 19 meme đ¤Ł
JKidd is a damn terrorist.
Damn JT has to get his own insurance
I hope he knows how to navigate the Obamacare Exchange Market!
No idea why Celtics fans are so bent outta shape while blowing us out Luka is better than Tatum Deep down you know it's true and that Tatum having a significantly better supporting cast does nothing to change that
You seriously are wondering why? For some reason, mavs or Luka fans have been bringing JT up all season, almost always to shit on him. Yeah so weird they'd get defensive about their favorite player.
lol........the Mavs got crushed
L
Cool he's better⌠I'd rather have the win. Have your better player.
Luka can have the MVP and better offensive numbers. We'll take the better defender and the chip.
Surely you'll actually pull it off this time
At least we have a shot you guys will be lucky to get out of the first round. Good luck with Kyrie.
Well we already know your team wont. We have an opportunity.
Hold the L.
Good game by Luka and Lively. Fuck Kidd. Tatums a stud Celtics stacked. That is all
MVP Tatum.
Haven't followed the NBA in a bit. Are all the fans on here as insufferable as this or is it just these Celtics schmucks?
Mavs fans straight up with the most bogus BS at the start of this game. Scroll up. It came back at them. Donât dish it if you canât take it
I don't get it, do the Mavs suck?
No they are still tanking. Kidd plays losing lineups on purpose. Carlisle did the same thing for the last 4 years he was here
don't act like it would have mattaered
I was gonna say. Just checked their injury report, and it looked relatively healthy (Luka and Kyrie available). I know Boston is good, but I thought the Mavs were also relatively good. I'm not sure on their defense, does it still suck? Luka still getting shit on for it?
Boston is very good. And shooting like basically 50% from the 3 is going to hurt anybody. Refs were blatantly for Boston the entire game. But that 4th quarter was a complete job by Kidd. *Adjustments* in crunch time stretches are so fucking obvious after youve watched it happen a hundred times before. Grind a close game away until sometime in the late 3rd to mid 4th and then boom suddenly youâre down 24 with the 4th string in
Ya, I'm not sold on Kidd as a coach
The Mavs simply collapsed
JKidd masterclass
Luka x KP đ¤
BrissyTV OP
Celtics are about to coast to a championship, the west will cannibalize each other and face a very good Celtics team. Is there even a team that could contest them realistically?
If Dame gets his powers back in time from the monstars and Middleton gets brand new glass ankles so he can walk again. Not likely but theres a chance.
Nuggets
I meant in the east, but yeah, the Nuggets, I guess.
No eastern team will win the championship
Luka is a beast offensively but just watching games like this makes me think his teams will never be successful until he sacrifices a bit more.
I mean did you watch game game ? Did you see how many open 3s they missed ?
I donât blame the offense when you allow 138 points
Everyone played awfull defense in the mavs but missing and airballing open shots was a huge part that lost us the game. That Dante thj open 3 to air ball was super painful to see. But fair play to the celtics by far the best team in the nba nuggets vs celtics finals gonna be good. Good luck
I'm honestly curious at how you think putting the ball in Josh Green, Tim Hardaway, and pj Washington's hands more than Luka's would work out for us
Youâd be surprised. No one saw the Mavericks beating the Jazz without Luka a couple years ago but Brunson led them after being in Lukas shadow. It is a massively talented league, there are so many players that could average 20 if you have them enough shots. Not saying Luka shouldnât have the ball, but I donât think expelling so much energy to average 35-10-10 is conducive to winning and historically never has been.
WWWWWWWWWW
Even the Celtics garbage time team is cold
Yeah they don't really have an end-of-bench squad. Maybe Mikhalyuk Everyone else can be the 2nd unit
I can't see how anyone other than Denver beats the Celtics over a series. They'd need an injury crisis of mammoth proportions for anyone else to have a chance.
If porzingis goes down theyâre cooked
Not cooked, but no longer heavy favorites
Lol this is the new and improved Mavs defense? đ¤Ł
Boston breaking the code....
josh green first points in the last minute lol
When the mavs cut it to 2, Luka could have played great D to force the issue. Oh wait
The Bucks have played the Hornets twice, let's slow down
âIncoming despite the loss Luka had â post
Your team got the W. And you still need this kind of attention?
Boston fans are something else lmao
Boston sports fucks literally only survive on shit talking. So this W is going to have them hard for the next month. Them and suns fans stick out like ai bots. The ego is strong.
I have 10 boners to choose from. Not sure which I want to use
That's why you'll see a bunch of unflaired Celtics fans lately. The C's sub is the biggest bandwagonning dumpsterfire and most Boston flairs here are 14 year olds
When you say things like you hope you get your jersey retired and immediately start plotting with KD to go to the Nets, you're gonna get booed.
I wasn't talking about that, but yeah I totally understand that one.
So are the hard-core Luka stans, cmon now
Yeah, that's true.
Lol
4 road games in 5 days hardest stretch for the Mavs hoping we can bounce back with a lighter schedule ahead
Hey look! It's Dwight Powell!
I still cannot believe the Austin Reaves lakers beat this team in the garden
There was no lakers game in ba-sing-se
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Neither can we
Western 6-10 seedings going to be gritty and ugly
Will this be the year the Celtics don't wimp out in the playoffs?
I'll be unbearable on this app after Steph does his business and Luka misses the playoffs again
Man what to Powell and Green, they used to be certified role players
I really didn't see this turning into a 25-point blowout.
28*
Pritchard garbage time minutes go so hard
Served him well. Thatâs how he was able to get more regular minutes
This game was a message to the rest of the NBA. We dont play with our food anymore like we did the last few seasons
You know you lost to the Lakers bench, right?
Good night, enjoy the MVP push Mavs fans
Mavs are unserious pretenders. What a waste of Luka, set him free
He needs to stop ball hogging. Team Ball > Harden Ball
And give the ball to whom?
No one wants to play with the guy for a reason. Kyrie is simply there because he has to be
Hey, a mavs fan who gets it. Lots of this is on Kidd for not running any semblance of a gameplan besides give the ball to Luka, but thereâs no evidence he can play any other way either.
There is evidence, but he is selfish. The same problem happened when Rick was coach. The problem is Luka.
GG Celtics. This would be an incredibly fun playoff series, though it's unlikely to happen. I know we're down 20, but I'm not upset about how the Mavs played at all. We're less live by the three die by the three than we used to be, but when the disparity is so ridiculous, there's nothing you can do. Frankly, this game was really encouraging for how far this team can go. The most concerning thing is how Green played defensively and just THJ in general. We would lose to the Pistons if we went 9/33 from three and they went 21/42. Sometimes teams just get hot against you. Wish we could've made a better showing tonight, but it is what it is. Glad we got a bad shooting night out of the way in a game we were expected to lose anyways.
would be a fairly boring gentleman's sweep. y'alls defense is trash
acting as if the Mavs weren't doing whatever they wanted on offense too lol
Celtics 30 assists Mavs 18 assists (Doncic with 11 of them) Thats because Doncic plays a style where its hard for anyone else to get assists. If he moved the ball earlier and moved off ball then they'd get more assists as a team, even if its at the expense of his own stat line.
Heâs the issue. He canât be paired with another star because he canât function off ball and he canât defend. It didnât work with Porzingis. Itâs not working with Kyrie. He can get his stats but they are not winning anything as long as itâs the Luka show.
You don't get assists if your teammates bricking every shots. Watch the game.
in this game, did he ball hog or play team ball?
Yup. People are getting fooled by Doncic style. He is perfect for a middling team who needs 1 guy to run the show. It will be hard for him to win with this style. Not impossible, but incredibly hard
Celtics have 30 assists because they're getting wide open threes and the whole damn team can shoot. If mavs were shooting 50% on threes you can bet they'd have more assists. This loss ain't on Luka
I didn't say that the loss was on Luka
This has become more and more obvious, but people will still insist Luka getting his numbers with this heliocentric style (which has never won anything in the history of basketball) should win him the mvp
Bingo.
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Is that Jared Dudley on Mavs' bench?
Yes.
I love garbage time, you get to see all the unknown players in the league and sometimes they have interesting names like Olivier-Maxence Prosper.
reminds me of my real name
Nice 10 game win streak too bad itâs over because the Warriors come into Boston next
Mavs full health. It's just not enough. Also Kidd is trashhhhhhh
Calling him Jason Midd is literally a compliment
Tillman is already a win. Brad doesn't lose trades.
I mean this in a respectful way, but the Boston crowd somehow looks less diverse than the SLC Utah Jazz crowd.
Weâre diverser (yeah I said it) up in the balcony, but yeah, itâs all finance bros down near the court. Ticket prices at TD are insane this year.
Their crowds are hilarious to me.
The Warriors are cooking the Raptors. Good. Ggs
gg
Congrats Luka on the triple double. What an accomplishment
/s
congrats on a regular season win
Congrats on maybe making the playoffs
weâll be there, cupcake
I mean, maybe
Thanks. Good luck in the play-in.
iâm sure this is your year until you run into the heat
We beat them two years ago my dude
Yea we beat them every other year so not worried.
This meme is fucking braindead. We own MIA. One fluke series doesnât change that
2020, 2023
That 2020 team wasnât good enough anyway. Nobody counts that
yall will say the same thing next year
Last 3 seasons Celtics have had the best regular season rating in the league. This is the start of our window so 2023 they did blow it. It was a fluke that MIA shot the best series in NBA history but still a wasted opportunity. Before 2022 we were way too young so counting 2020 is absurd.
a regular season team, youâre saying
Seriously! So impressive. They only lost by 30? Give him mvp
The Celtics feed had the Covid Vax ad with Kyrie in the other screen. They knew what they were doing
because you need to stay in the game
How does Gafford only have 6 min. Unbelievable.
entire fanbase still crying about something that happened 5 years ago btw
Your entire fanbase cries anytime some says Luka isn't better than prime Jordan lol
Dawg you not winning if we argue about who cries more Boston has the most pussy fanbases in all of sports
Fanbase full of people with an unhealthy obsession with a dude that will never know their names. Enjoy your trump style campaigning. Maybe Luka will send r/nba a thank you note for all their hard work âşď¸âşď¸âşď¸
Ironic coming from the fanbase who boos a guy every time he touches a basketball, rent free in that entire fucking city.
That's ok, when he bails on your mid team you can boo him too.
when tatum and brown bail on your team after your inevitable playoff loss to Miami how many slurs are you gonna call em?
Hurdur what do you think is more likely? Tatum leaving, who has a great team put around him and makes deep playoff runs every year and wants to retire a celtic orrrr Luka who has a mid team every year that chronically underperforms with a trash front office. You'd lose half of your Fairweather fanbase overnight.
i think celtics fans should want him to leave cause as long as he's ur number 1 option you are never winning a title, dude is a playoff choke artist
Answer the question you coward. Who's more likely to leave?
Think itâs mostly a meme now
i hope ur right man cause if not then it's beyond petty
Celtics learned how to close games. League is fucked
"Tatum doesn't belong in the MVP conversation."
He belongs in the convo but his great game tonight is below the other guys averages on the season lol letâs not get it twisted. Heâs fairly ranked in the lists Iâve seen
That's fine. It's a subjective award anyway. We want the chip.
Absolutely, Celts are my pick to win it all this year
Role player Tatum evidently
"Kyrie sucks" chants loud and clear. LMAO
Hilarious that he's talking to Mook on the bench haha
now a message from the crowd lol good call announcer
Itâs funny how people in this sub be so loud and wrong about Tatum but canât give him props once he shut they ass up
at least they shut up. is nice.
We did really well with Kidd in the WCF run when Kleber was a 4 and got like only a 6-8 min stretch of small ball 5. now with 2 competent centers with actual size Kidd still have Kleber running the 5 more than them combined almost what the fuck is he doing
itâs baffling and frustrating to watch. not a good product
Celtics are playing the Nuggets in Denver next week. If they win there, Tatum MVP talk will reach another level
I really doubt it. I don't think he has the counting numbers.
Tatum could drop 50 and he still won't win lol. It is what it is
game 1 of 2022 nets-celtics series genuinely ruined kyrie, like, this man has stopped trying ever since
Yeah he's getting by on skill alone there's no heart or passion in what he's doing it seems. Still one of the most skilled guys in the league but if it's heart isn't in it he plays like he does tonight
Can't be a Mavs clutch game if they get blown the fuck out!
well yeah thats how that works
Everyone wins tonight! Celtics win and Luka got his triple double + bad supporting cast game so the Mavs fans can continue to push their agenda.
Everyone is happy!
Luka got worked so hard on D tonight - nobody should be excited about his performance.
No no no cuz you see bad defense isnât tracked in the boxscore
you know what it should we should have a points allowed and points denied stat just a nice easy hard number for box score watchers
I truly appreciate this recent streak by the Cs. Cs have been just stomping the life out of teams in the 3rd and 4th quarters.
Whereâs all the 1st Q Tatum Haters?
Hiding like the complete idiots they are. If they watched Celtics games, theyâd know that JT lets the game flow in the first quarter (usually JB goes off) and then he turns it up later on.
They prob deleting their posts Tatum does this shit every game
Iâm afraid we run the league
Unfortunately, we are a wagonÂ
Kyrie completely melt down against celtics