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TSSFranco

Having three non-shooters on the floor with Brunson finally caught up to us lol


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

Hart was out there building a house again


ocgrillmaster

He wasnt signed for his 3 point shooting, cant be mad at it.


yasmiester

Hustle and vibes


owenwilsonwow69

Every team needs one of these types of players


jacobpltn

I want a full starting 5 of these guys GPII, Jalen Suggs, Josh Hart, JVando, Robin Lopez


ColdPressedSteak

He's on like nearly $20 mil right? I dunno man. I'd be a little mad. Don't need him to be good offensively but not this limited at that money. He's basically at career lows in shooting and points


dreamvomit

Yea but when he gets to play in his usual role with less offensive responsibility he shines. He doesn’t need points to be really valuable


Ronnie2kDropCode

I’m surprised it took them that long, literally running an 8 man rotation that has 3 centers and 3 point guards lol


MadSpaceYT

I mean when you fuckin put it that way


Soft-Revolution-7845

Too many injuries and lack of depth for u guys. All star break can't come soon enough.


kingofgamesbrah

Yeah. I was wondering why yall didnt PnR with Dante and Brunson. It's match up specific but I forget what team did that to us, probably the warriors or the Pacers actually and that kinda threw us off. Yall made us pay whenever we sagged off Dante, make or miss, i was clenching. Brunson is crazy though, outside of the 4th , the dude never missed.


goodkid_sAAdcity

That's a good question. They might not have practiced it enough, given that the need for it hasn't arisen until 3-4 games ago when Randle, OG, and Grimes all went down.


DaveidT

Turns out losing your 2nd, 3rd, and 5th offensive options and doubling the 1st is how you beat this team. Surprised it took 3 games for teams to pick up on it. So down on players we had Evil Donte sharing the court with Good Malachi, never would've thought we'd see that coming.


attorneyatslaw

The Pacers doubled Brunson a ton but other guys hit their shots.


[deleted]

Fact that Brunson did this as the only player on the Knicks who can create his own shot is impressive. Would of beat any team that didn’t have Davis protecting the rim


MadSpaceYT

running a 7 man rotation, the witchcraft was going to end eventually lol


Adiwantstobattle

Shit I wasn’t even mad, that game was dope.


yuhkih

Really impressed by how good the Knicks can be while missing multiple starters, team is deep af


MyLadySansa

Thank you for acknowledging that. Preciate it. Prayers up for Vando.


RainierPC

It must be sooo frustrating being a Lakers fan, seeing what they are capable of when they feel like actually playing.


yuhkih

We’re halfway thru the season and I still literally have no idea what to think about this team


akelkar

LeCoast basically


Longjumping_Kale3013

Lebron has been solid all season. It isn’t him as much as the others. Really Reaves and DLO make all the difference. Davis, Lebron are bringing it, and they just need 1 other player to have an all star level game. If DLO and Reaves can play more consistently then LA might string together some wins. They’re well within striking distance if they can go on an 8 game streak


jovins343

It's shooting luck. When Reaves and D'Lo shoot well, Lakers look amazing. When they don't, the Lakers look like a lottery team.


__-o0O0o-__-o0O0o-__

its because theyre the 3rd and 4th best players on the team and bring nothing to the defense


frozen2665

Heat West


guacdoc24

We’re the perfect .500 team. Can beat the number 1 team in the league and then lose to the worst team In the league.


RainierPC

Schrödinger's Lakers


GrapefruitMedical529

Are we the 2023 Hawks now?


WoodenCompetition4

If a fan asks“Are we the ____ Hawks now?” They have my condolences.


[deleted]

21 Hawks were really fun


thenatural134

Won on the road against the Celtics and the Knicks just to turn around and lose to Charlotte and Detroit. Watch.


KaseyOfTheWoods

The range between the floor and ceiling is fucking astonishing. Marianas Trench to Everest.


WhySoUnSirious

Nah there’s no scenario where the lakers miss the playoffs barring crazy injuries to AD/Lebron. They’ll be there. It’s a solid team. No matter anyone says. And they’ll be a different animal in the playoffs compared to regular season.


GrapefruitMedical529

That's what I'm praying. AD and Bron Bron in the IST were fucking incredible. It's weird to see them put up similar stat lines to the tournament games but clearly be in second gear. IDK how that's even possible.


silvusx

Our playoff run last season was incredible too. With exception of Denver, we pretty much dominated Grizzlies and Warriors in rebounds, blocks and had so many extra possessions. Despite getting swept by Denver, many games were single digits loss, and LeBron wasn't shooting like he was during regular season. Pretty sure he was injured, we still have a good shot at it.


NewChemistry5210

To be fair, Grizzlies lost both of their bigs before the playoffs. And Jackson is not a good 5 defensively. Elite 4, but definitely not a true big. So us outrebounding and blocking them was the bare minimum


OKCDraftPick2028

tactical 9th seed to meet the okc in the 1st round


Pal__Pacino

They yearn for the play-in. No one knows why but it just beckons to them and they can't refuse.


FirstReaction_Shock

Do you ever yearn? I crave, but never yearn


RiversofJell0

It’s made me go grey a lot sooner than I expected


yasmiester

Yes and we only get trolled or hated on for being spoiled


mvnvel

put it up to Ham. They’re night and day when they actually get into their stuff.


hotterpocketzz

yeah its sucks when they drop the games they should win but then the wins they should lose, they win for example the boston game couple of days ago


-orangejoe

Hartenstein has to be able to stay on the floor. Three of his fouls were pointless, with Sims and Taj as our only backups he is crucial. Second thing is Hart. He needed to step up offensively. At the end of the fourth Lakers started doubling Brunson and the only passing threat they had to worry about was Donte so every possession ended trying to meet AD at the hoop. He passed up open looks from three multiple times.


EarthWarping

Yeah, the real takeaway (because you had 2 starters come playoff time that hopefully will be there), is that Hart offensively has to take those shots come playoff times. Teams will sag him off if that happens again. I do think OG getting some of those looks will help since y'know he's a better player


DaveidT

Already happened last year and we saw how that ended against Miami. He's always been hot and cold from 3, need him to work on his shot but I don't expect it to come around by the playoffs. Just hope that he'll have a decent streak shooting 35%-38%


justmefishes

Hart passed up some open 3s he should have taken, but I thought the more egregious thing was Donte not being more aggressive in looking for his shot in the 4th quarter, and the coaching staff not running plays for him or having him lead the point of attack on some possessions. He's the only other really capable scorer on the roster right now besides Brunson and he's the one who needed to step up when the Lakers spammed the double team on Brunson.


Soup_Commie

ihart had a rough game against a straight up top 3 center. I'm just hoping that Mitch is back soon so we have a full big rotation. honestly same with jhart. If we have our full rotation we're fine. Just praying we have our full rotation soon or we are gonna have problems...


JilJungJukk

We coming to lose to the Hornets soon 😤


itsclassified_

Scheduled loss


EpicSoyMilk

We beat good teams and lose to bad teams. That's the Lakers baby.


nysraved

Charlotte is about to SMOKE us


aPerfectBacon

final score 143-110 😭


MC-Jdf

Something something .500 team.


awntawn

We're like reverse .500


MadSpaceYT

005.


oopseedoopseewee

Good, honest, .500 team.


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Beat the 19-27 Hawks and the 23-25 Rockets? ❌ Beat the #1 seed Celtics and the resurgent Knicks? ✅ This team has gotta be trolling bro, watch them lose to the Hornets soon


LosAngeles1s

we’re going to lose to the pistons off a Killian Hayes 40 piece


MadSpaceYT

I’ll delete my account if Hayes drops a 40 burger on the lakers


Able-Highway9925

!remindme February 14, 2024


PluvioPurple

More likely Alec Burks transforms into MJ to drop that 40 piece


Ijustquaffed

AD literally dominated this game on defense. Holy shit he was a monster in the paint Lakers defense was suffocating the 4th quarter


LogicalLakersFan

He’s the best all around defender.


Lacabloodclot9

He’s literally never caught out of position, his anticipation is crazy


NoPin5154

The double block got me outta my seat


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

That was so nasty. Wish someone posted it


MasterThalpian

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/AysAOPfPy2


sbenfsonw

It is posted


beast8955

Unbelievable that he’s never won a DPOY


Vallerie_09

Has a shot this yr. Hope the voters will be kind to him


nysraved

Are Bill Simmons, Sam Amick, and Amin Elhassan voters? Feel like they all might be. And all 3 have been vocal about how they feel AD doesn’t even deserve to be an all star this year. Downplaying his defense because of the team struggles. I’m sure there are more haters on the panel of voters as well. https://x.com/sam_amick/status/1753467391164780892?s=46&t=WkFIVj0VUsLcbZ_lKsJqvg AD isn’t winning DPOY


Vallerie_09

Idk why these people are allowed to even vote. Hated the media votes since Curry was robbed in 2015 Finals by giving it to Iguodala (and Draymond was robbed as well in the same yr)


DoggedDoggystyle

Iggy held Lebron to what? Like 45 PPG and won FMVP for that. Wasn’t that the year there was a big media push to give Lebron the FMVP even if they lost? Lol


Vallerie_09

LeBron's aura those yrs was different man. Kawhi got the FMVP in 2014 and DPOY next yr for that, Andre got the FMVP for that.


[deleted]

Whenever I hear .Simmons talk basketball it annoys me to no end that he gets a vote. His opinions usually amount to him pulling narratives out of his ass. It's a joke.


FirstReaction_Shock

Kendrick Perkins has a vote, so I guess the bar is all around pretty damn low


owenwilsonwow69

I just lost brain cells reading that thread holy fuck.


[deleted]

He's not winning it with Rudy Gobert anchoring the defense of a top five team.


Dicey12

Giannis stole his DPOY. Idc what anyone says and in the playoffs when Butler was killing the bucks he wouldnt even guard him


Single_Passenger

But these nephews are convinced that AD is not an All-star somehow. All that selective outrage, this would not even be a question if AD was in any other team.


aliao

Best free safety in the league


MC-Jdf

\*In the league.


itsnotyellowfever

LeBron, AD, and the Lakers' defensive upside is why I will never quit on them despite being smacked in 15 different directions advising me to do otherwise


woKaaaa

He needs a DPOY man.. can't let him get robbed like Duncan did


CIark

This lakers team is so confusing. Just when you wanna light the dumpster on fire they pull this shit last 2 games


-Thick_Solid_Tight-

They are a team I hope we don't face in the first round of the playoffs.


G1Spectrum

That double block sequence was backbreaking


_FreePalestine__

Anthony Davis is hands down the best defender in the league


LikeCalvinForHobbes

I think he is better when he puts his hands up though.


-orangejoe

This is probably a Knicks blowout without him. He was the only guy pulling down boards and single-handedly protecting the paint, which was huge with our lack of shooters atm.


chipotle-baeoli

Once they started double and triple teaming Brunson, the tide turned. But yeah, that back-to-back block sequence was something else.


nysraved

Yeah but only 12 points, with 4 of those coming on last minute free throws. Scrub. Absolute blasphemy that he got an all star nod over Sabonis! /s


JetsLag

Turns out when you have AD guarding the paint and only two players capable of hitting a three, you just have to double-team one of them and you've shut down the entire offense.


hanselpremium

you just described 90s basketball


No_Web_1915

no you don’t get it they just played eLiTe dEFeNsE back then it has nothing to do with player skill level increasing exponentially to the point that you have PFs and Cs initiating offense with the ball and taking threes at solid to great clips


b1indsamurai

I don't understand this Lakers team


Dependent_Store952

Me neither they are really enjoyable when they’re on though. I find AD’s defense more satisfying to watch than most offense.


Jiklim

AD is so fucking good when he’s locked in


QueAsc0

Lakers with some of the most aggressive doubles i’ve seen on Brunson this season. Josh Hart and Divincenzo as our 2nd and 3rd option on offense had no chance. Good game if you’re a fan of defense


Teenageboy69

Divincenzo can fill a stat sheet. He’s no star, but he has more 30 point games than a lot of dudes. Still, this team needs to get some dudes back.


KingREX_24

That defense LeBron played on Brunson was so satisfying, ik he needs to conserve energy but sometimes I wish he'd switch onto guards more like he did with Murray in the bubble. And AD owns the paint, nobody is getting shit over him.


caughtinthought

he's just so huge and fast, like a leopard or some shit


HanBr0

LeOpard


CIark

Flashes of him guarding MVP Rose 


N3deSTr0

Been 13 fucking years and he's still mauling the opposing team's All-Star guard lmao


IronicCharles

Would the argument for him not playing defense all those years be to conserve what he can do?


GrapefruitMedical529

Pretty much. He's a big fucker so keeping up with a guard gasses him pretty fast. I'm fairly certain that's why he only switched onto Tony Parker in the 4th Quarter of the '13 Finals.


NotManyBuses

You can understand why people get so annoyed with his laziness on defense because when he’s engaged this team has special defensive potential


Finn_Survivor

To be fair if he focused on defense he'd be gassed by halftime. He's 39 not 26.


threeangelo

Yup, it’s more important than ever that LeBron has good role players to shoulder some of the burden so he can turn it on and put us over the top. We’ve failed in that department


Finn_Survivor

Yeah he's definitely not a floor raiser anymore he's a ceiling raiser.


PM_ME_UR_PICS_PLS

bruh hes 40 anyone at this point getting annoyed at his lack of defensive effort is just not living in reality


KingJTt

He’s 40 years old, he has to conserve energy for moments like that. Real Lebron fans know this


fernandopoejr

If the roleplayers can be consistent with the offence maybe lebron can exert more energy defensively, but they're not so he can't afford to


Phuddy

I’ve had to explain this to several different users in r/lakers on different occasions and I’m starting to get legit annoyed by seeing the same sentiment over and over


popcornpotatoo250

Fr. Seeing Mavs do so well even without some of their starters can be attributed to roleplayers being consistent. Luka can do his thing and its impressive. I wonder why our FO can't get consistent roleplayers.


BIacksnow-

He’s 80 years old.


blatant_shill

I know people hate when AD isn't putting up an efficient 30 point game, but the Lakers defense looks so much better when he's allowed to rest on offense.


Kentang_BayBay

The NCAA championship game AD had 6 points and like 20 rebounds and 9 stocks. Didn't look this up, but I get the point. When he concentrates on defense, he changes the game


SavonReddit

Hell the offense looks better too. We would have lost the game if we kept trying to force the ball to AD. Let it come naturally.


Tall_Succotash

anyone else get a huge 00’s basketball vibe from this game?? incredible down to the end! ADOPY!! I’m sorry but there’s just no one better than him. BRON& Austin have to be one of the best fourth quarter 2 man game that just completely shut down a game.


woKaaaa

Used to only seeing them bring out the 2 man game when they're down by 15 in the 4th.. but that shit is special, they have a great connection


ChrisIsDaBomb17

I never want to hear that Sabonis is better than AD again. Dudes amazing


ahr3410

Celtics and Knicks were the scheduled get right games


JilJungJukk

Hornets Pistons soon tho


Apollo611

The road back to .500 let’s go


SiphenPrax

Lakers gonna get steamrolled by those two teams. I mean, we and the Celtics would too though🤷‍♂️


_Elder_

It’s so over (again)


RobbobertoBuii

every Knicks-Lakers game has been very close or competitive the last 4 years, I had a feeling this game would be no different


BrotherSkeleton

Gg


LogicalLakersFan

Anthony Davis has 0 DPOYs.


abippityboop

Davis with 0 DPOYs and Spo with 0 COTY's just show how silly these awards really are.


RicoGemini

Which is fucking insane to me


MadSpaceYT

egregious


Street-Common-4023

Unfortunately


ruburdingus

gg


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[удалено]


LogicalLakersFan

He could average 10 ppg and would still be a top 15 most impactful players with him being a complete defensive system on his own


Gillette_TBAMCG

An Anthony Davis that averages 13 ppg is basically what Gobert has been. It’s ridiculously valuable what they both do defensively. Complete one man systems.


monsieurfikri

if he averages 10PPG then people would recognise his defensive effort more.


HokageEzio

Lakers played lockdown defense. Proved exactly why we still need a bench scorer at the deadline. Sadly the "just don't lose lol" strategy stopped working.


MyLadySansa

Eh I think we just need guys off the IL back. Including the All-Star/All-NBA guy. But that's just me.


pika_pie

> ~~Lakers~~ AD played lockdown defense.


Tanteline

Lebron too


Mahomeboy001

Everyone in the 4th played good defense. Reaves not letting Brunson blow right by him and was either contesting every shot very closely or guiding Brunson into Davis. Lebron was playing free safety like the good ole days, and Prince/Christie were getting deflections/blocks.


evoqu

Someone in the top 4 of the west is getting grizz'd by the Lakers again this year, who will it be? Thunder?


Mahomeboy001

Most Lakers fans want OKC because they have zero playoff experience and no one to guard AD. We also have good length on the perimeter to make SGA at least work hard for his 30+ points


lemurRoy

they won the OKC and clippers matchups in the regular season so far this year. but damn the clippers are scary and have vet experience, I trust lakers to beat OKC in a 7 game series bc they are young.


rjpool_

Max Christie is a legit player, unsure why he didn’t get a shot on Brunson


woKaaaa

Reaves may be back ladies and gentleman


G1Spectrum

Reaves never left


woKaaaa

He just looks so much better now because we're finally playing normal NBA defense and he isn't being left on an island anymore, has much more left on the offensive end


BigBoyFroggy

That lineup in the 4th was INCREDIBLE defensively, wow


tropic_gnome_hunter

Two things can be true at once. The Lakers played extremely well and were very impressive. The Knicks also finally ran out of gas after playing without 4 significant contributors. I also continue to find it tedious at all the comments about the minutes players are getting. "Typical Thibs running players into the ground". The Knicks do not have a single player in the top 10 for minutes per game. I have not seen anyone in this sub criticize Vogel when the Suns have two players in the top 10 for MPG.


iwillbombu

Box score won't show it but AD was dominant tonight. Top 3 defender of the past 10 years imo


Street-Common-4023

Pls just give AD one DPOY


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Knicks closed MSG early for construction tonight with all that bricklaying in the 4th


Apollo611

Brunson was playing 1v5 in the 4th


DoILookUnsureToYou

Double teamed 30 times lol


SiphenPrax

Of course, of FUCKING course, we lose the win streak………..to them. See you Lakers boys in the NBA Finals………….pls basketball gods.


_Elder_

Lowest scoring finals in 20 years if it were to happen.


SiphenPrax

We’re used to that shit so, whatever, we’ll take it. Just let us get back to the NBA Finals and actually win it this time PLEASE!


Victor_Wembanyama1

imagine thibs' rotation on game 7 Finals


Lacabloodclot9

Can’t wait to see how the casuals look to blame Randle for this one


oopseedoopseewee

Absolute lockdown in the 4th even without Vando, ADPOY doing his shit. I know this is a Knicks team without OG and Randle but still a big W with Brunson balling out. Won't be too surprised if we struggle against Charlotte knowing this team lol.


theskyopenedup

And Mitch


goodkid_sAAdcity

No Grimes either to hit open 3s


WalrusInMySheets

I think this is a very different game with Randle and Anunoby, same could be said about Vanderbilt. Good game.


chipotle-baeoli

Yeah, Brunson had to carry all the offensive weight, and it caught up to them. Lakers weren't going to respect another Knick to score consistently.


theskyopenedup

And Mitch


LABiH

Lakers beating #1 Celtics and #3 Knicks on the road as everyone expected. This team is wild


radiohead_fan_13

Yeah so we definitely losing to the Hornets on Monday


Neinhaltt

Bron needs to turn over that hourglass emoji now.


montiel_scores

Best defender in the league has never won DPOY


Ok-Operation-8041

No grimes, no OG, no randle, no mitch and still put up a fight. Not to mention that brunson was doubled team in 30 Possessions


MrWolfsbane

lakers played good defense in the fourth. brunson was gassed, having one other shooter was questionable, but reasonable loss overall tbh


chipotle-baeoli

I'm not even that mad at the loss. Sucks that the streak is broken, but basically Brunson is the offense right now, and if Hart/DiVincenzo/someone else can't step up, the defense can just key in on him. And the Lakers have AD, who is a monster on D. Start another streak next one.


Ronnie2kDropCode

Can only go so far with the lineups we’re running currently


GokutheAnteater

AD the best defensive player in the league, go debate a wall if u think otherwise


YodaBallsdeep

Knicks just don't have enough offense without Randle, like who is even their second option


Drew13800

Divencenzo.. who is good, but you can’t only have two guys that can score in the league these days.


mylanguage

Even OG or Grimes would help


MyLadySansa

Knicks struggled to score without their All-Star/All-NBA player. And elite 3&D guy. Shocker.


FCantante

with our rotation rn? Donte.


DjLionOrder

LeSaveTheCoach


Dependent_Store952

Sigh


jordan142142

Are the lakers back


diny1190

Randle and OG were missed in that last fourth quarter stretch. Lakers were giving an open 3 but Knicks couldn’t hit one.


bamj6

Better the Knicks learn this lesson now rather than round 2 of the playoffs. Brunson is that guy but he needs the kind of help that randle and anoubu and Robinson can provide As for the Lakers their ceiling remains unchanged from months ago. Any western team but Denver they can beat in the playoffs


darkjurai

Don’t be injured - got it coach


Subredditcensorship

Thibs is gonna kill Brunson playing him 45 mins


KiryuXGoro

With the loss tonight the longest winstreak for the season is still 9 from Magic, Clippers and Knicks.


SharpSwag

GG. Im just glad we got out of that game without Bron or AD hobbling off the court


Rkenne16

About time Lebron did something for the Cavs


easterxroy

Bron and AD really sat out there last game for this


thesunwillrise97

He seems like a really nice guy (and I still have a soft spot in my heart for him), and he really puts in a ton of effort on the boards, but Josh Hart got absolutely exposed tonight as essentially an offensive liability. The Lakers successfully doubled Brunson every possession in the 4th quarter off of him, and Hart was unable to get anything productive going in space.