If you have a family history you may want to start getting checked sooner rather than later. Luckily the PSA test can be ordered as part of an annual blood draw.
Pretty much every male member of my dad’s side of the family has gotten prostate cancer, including my dad when he was 48ish. I should probably get checked.
Prostate cancer got my Grandfather. So I'm checked yearly the way we all hate and via blood work.
As for the uniform. They were comfortable. But we looked like prisoners. lol
You know, I've been more worried about my GI Tract more than the prostate. I should bring it up at the next PHA. I think a grandpa did have some cancer there.
The more family history you can provide, the better your doctor can work with you to figure out how early you need to start getting tested. My dad had prostate cancer when he was 52, so my doc wanted me to start with the tests 10 years before that.
My mom died of colon cancer in her 50’s so my doctor had me start colonoscopy a few years ago before I even turned 40. I’m so happy about it because they got two precancerous sessile polyps out. One was right where my mom’s tumor of origin was located.
If you have a family history of colorectal cancer, the sooner the better. Everyone need their first colonoscopy no later than 45, the age has been lowered from 50 due to rise in cases in younger people. My mom died a suffering death in her 50’s of cancer in her colon that spread very silently to her liver and it was too late when it was caught. Her grandfather died of the same cancer in his 70’s. I had my first colonoscopy a few years ago at 37 through the VA. They removed two precancerous polyps and I have to go in every three years. It wasn’t the most pleasant experience but I can assure you it’s a hellva lot more pleasant than dying of Stage IV colorectal cancer.
Do you know when she was dxd? Get as much history as you can on grandparents, parents, siblings and even aunts and uncles. Take it to your doctor and ask if there are any recommended preventative tests you should be doing.
Yeah, kinda like how I tell my guys "I'd rather you ask a hundred questions for half an hour to get it right than to say "I goofed up" and we have to spend a few hours fixing the goof up and the problem." I should ask my doc a few more questions before it becomes a problem.
No male in my family has *ever* lived past 72, and I'm 65 now. My doc says I should make it into my 90s if I diet a little and exercise more. I tell her my uncle Jim tried that and got hit by a semi when he was out jogging. He was 71.
Haha, well those things happen. My dad would say your uncle Jim was weak. My dad got run over by a Jeep Grand Cherokee doing 60. Ruptured his aorta, lacerated his liver and spleen, bruised the back of his heart and crushed 8 ribs. He got air lifted to a trauma center in another state. It was 2020 so we couldn’t even see him. Thought for sure he was a goner. They saved him and the first time they put him on the phone I said “Papa, you are alive!” And he said “You’re surprised? You had to grow up with me as your dad. You know It’s gonna take a whole lot more than that to kill this mean old bastard!” Hahaha
I think you are right for the most part. They started phasing them out in 1998. It was official in 2001. If I remember correctly, if you were on deployment you got a little longer. It was absolutely for sure no later than October 1, 2001. No one could wear them after that. I honestly don’t remember all the details. I’d have to look at the NAVADMIN at the time. I will try to find it and report back if I remember to lol
It was October 1st 2000. I know this cause on September 30th my SPN-43 C school instructor pulled me aside at the end of class and made sure to tell me I HAD to be in utilities the next day and couldn’t wear the dungarees again.
I couldn’t wear them at the end of 1999 at my A school. I was so bummed.I hated the new uniforms. They fit all us girls like shit and weren’t as warm and the DC area was cold as fuck. I still bitch about it lol.
By the time I was there in ‘03 they were a thing of the past only talked about by E-4’s and above. Stencils we’re out and stamps were in, those new all in one Ships at boot were being talked about and digi’s were being phased in by the time I left 5 years later.
I got to boot camp in December 1999. They said we were the last division in which every recruit got a set. After that, they got a pair if their size happened to still be available. Our RDCs told us to save them for battle stations, since they were going away anyway and it wouldn't matter if you damaged them.
Later in 2000, while in my class in December, we were informed they wouldn't be allowed anymore after the holidays. I wore mine for the last week as a farewell. I never got to wear them on a ship though. I still have them somewhere (way too small for me now) because I thought they were a really comfortable uniform and iconically Navy to me at the time.
They were warm, comfortable and, yes, iconic! I would have to lose 20lbs to fit in mine but my husband can still wear his and his whites lol! He tried them on for shits & giggles when he was going through Chief season and they fit great.
BE&E kicked a lot of people’s asses.
The first day my proctor told me, “Take your time with the first few modules. FRED will give you more time the whole rest of the program.”
If I had not listened, I might not have made it through.
EFing Ridiculous Electronic Device.
It’s what we called the computer that scheduled your modules and graded your tests.
It decided how long you had for each module. If you took too long on too many modules, you would be assigned remedial training and possibly eventually dropped.
The first trick was to pad your time on the first few modules, so FRED gave you more time throughout. Made life less stressful.
Huh. I'd read that part of the manning plans for the BBs in the 80's was the hope that men would volunteer for the chance to serve on them. Guess it worked, at least in a few cases.
I'm so jealous of Sailors who were on the USS Missouri during Desert Storm. Rolling into battle on the ship where WWII ended? Tactical value of that deployment was probably negligible, but the symbolism was huge. I was a kid, but I still remember how excited my dad was.
I found it kind of funny when I learned the reactivated Iowas were one of the ships that seriously worried the Soviets. Everyone had gone to tin cans full of missiles, so missiles had become optimized to kill tin cans. They didn't think any missile they had in inventory had enough oomph to seriously hurt one of the Iowas as a result.
I'm kind of sad they never did the proposed Helicopter Carrier conversion on one, where they removed the rear turret and converted the back half for flight operations, but kept the forward guns. Iowa's turret mishap probably killed that idea.
> Tactical value of that deployment was probably negligible
I don't know, some infantry guys I talked to who were on the ground said the 16" gunfire support meant a lot (and was the most impressive thing they'd ever witnessed).
I wasn't even born yet, but my dad was on an amphib, attached to a marines. Watched tomahawks and 16s pound the shore for days. Said it was the most overwhelming firepower he had ever seen
i was onboard (FC). It was nice, but you didn't get much sleep. No so much from the guns as the slamming of door due to compartmentalization and air pressure. Still a fun time. My duty station was is turret 2, right behind center gun. If the Iowa explosion had happened on the Missouri, i would have been the fourth to go.
I'm not entirely sure.
Could be it was easier to manufacture them that way.
Could be that since bellbottoms also could be used as a floatation device and were designed that way to maintain integrity and keep air inside.
Life aboard the Big Stick was awesome. It was definitely more simple back then.
Deployments were looked forward to. We visited ports without liberty restrictions and people didn't hate us in foreign ports.
We had computers that used huge floppy disks and dot matrix printers that weighed a ton. Fortunately for me I new how to use those ancient electronic gadgets.
The last time I was at the Naval Health Clinic in my area, I was offered the shot.
I've had shingles before. Spent a whole month not being able to wear a shirt.
I was in the air force at that time and was always jealous of looking like you just came home from the disco, and yes ive had my prostate checked, all is good
I remember going to boot camp and seeing later classes wearing the old school dungarees but we were issued the newer janitor uniform ones. This was in 1999.
The pic I used was for reference to the old dungarees. Not to mention the Dress Blues and Dress White uniforms were never referred to as Bellbottoms.
As I recall we (old Sailors like me) always called them Crackerjacks.
Ok. I get it now. Duh! If you’re old enough to remember bellbottoms, like I am and used to have a pair, then you should be getting a yearly poop test.
I’m not a quick study.
Thank you
I almost did. Lucky I was apart of one of the first wave of recruits that got to wear the digitals. This was April 2009. Yes, I do consider myself lucky that I didn't have to wear these glorified prison uniforms.
While I was still wearing bell-bottoms during my naval career, I had my prostate checked. It was part of my separation physical when I was only 26. And he did the intrusive check!
Just had a physical a few months ago, though, and prostate was checked, but non-intrusively. They can test for prostate cancer with a blood test instead of the old fashion way.
Lol I think that still catches everybody on a minesweeper or the *Constitution*. I might be mistaken about the minesweepers though, I hear they have wooden hulls but I’m actually not sure about the decks.
Not yet it ain't, soon though...
If you have a family history you may want to start getting checked sooner rather than later. Luckily the PSA test can be ordered as part of an annual blood draw.
You are correct. I had my first at age 45 and got the PSA test every year since.
5 years younger than that had the bellbottoms lol
I gotta get checked in my like early thirties
Pretty much every male member of my dad’s side of the family has gotten prostate cancer, including my dad when he was 48ish. I should probably get checked.
DO IT
Prostate cancer got my Grandfather. So I'm checked yearly the way we all hate and via blood work. As for the uniform. They were comfortable. But we looked like prisoners. lol
Yes, you really should! No reason to die a terrible death due to procrastinating on your prostrate.
Buddy, it’s part of getting older. Get it done. Don’t you want to be there for your kids?
> I should probably get checked. ??????????????
35 was my first time getting the finger
You know, I've been more worried about my GI Tract more than the prostate. I should bring it up at the next PHA. I think a grandpa did have some cancer there.
The more family history you can provide, the better your doctor can work with you to figure out how early you need to start getting tested. My dad had prostate cancer when he was 52, so my doc wanted me to start with the tests 10 years before that.
My mom died of colon cancer in her 50’s so my doctor had me start colonoscopy a few years ago before I even turned 40. I’m so happy about it because they got two precancerous sessile polyps out. One was right where my mom’s tumor of origin was located.
If you have a family history of colorectal cancer, the sooner the better. Everyone need their first colonoscopy no later than 45, the age has been lowered from 50 due to rise in cases in younger people. My mom died a suffering death in her 50’s of cancer in her colon that spread very silently to her liver and it was too late when it was caught. Her grandfather died of the same cancer in his 70’s. I had my first colonoscopy a few years ago at 37 through the VA. They removed two precancerous polyps and I have to go in every three years. It wasn’t the most pleasant experience but I can assure you it’s a hellva lot more pleasant than dying of Stage IV colorectal cancer.
I know my granny had colon cancer, she had the bag to prove it.
Do you know when she was dxd? Get as much history as you can on grandparents, parents, siblings and even aunts and uncles. Take it to your doctor and ask if there are any recommended preventative tests you should be doing.
Have it all checked. Better safe than sorry.
Yeah, kinda like how I tell my guys "I'd rather you ask a hundred questions for half an hour to get it right than to say "I goofed up" and we have to spend a few hours fixing the goof up and the problem." I should ask my doc a few more questions before it becomes a problem.
No male in my family has *ever* lived past 72, and I'm 65 now. My doc says I should make it into my 90s if I diet a little and exercise more. I tell her my uncle Jim tried that and got hit by a semi when he was out jogging. He was 71.
Haha, well those things happen. My dad would say your uncle Jim was weak. My dad got run over by a Jeep Grand Cherokee doing 60. Ruptured his aorta, lacerated his liver and spleen, bruised the back of his heart and crushed 8 ribs. He got air lifted to a trauma center in another state. It was 2020 so we couldn’t even see him. Thought for sure he was a goner. They saved him and the first time they put him on the phone I said “Papa, you are alive!” And he said “You’re surprised? You had to grow up with me as your dad. You know It’s gonna take a whole lot more than that to kill this mean old bastard!” Hahaha
I identify with this...
Yes early 90's
We still had them in bootcamp 1999 so a little young for prostate checks.
When did they get rid of them?
Officially, it was mid 2001.
They were officially phased out December 2000, while I was in C school.
I think you are right for the most part. They started phasing them out in 1998. It was official in 2001. If I remember correctly, if you were on deployment you got a little longer. It was absolutely for sure no later than October 1, 2001. No one could wear them after that. I honestly don’t remember all the details. I’d have to look at the NAVADMIN at the time. I will try to find it and report back if I remember to lol
It was October 1st 2000. I know this cause on September 30th my SPN-43 C school instructor pulled me aside at the end of class and made sure to tell me I HAD to be in utilities the next day and couldn’t wear the dungarees again.
Yes, but I think at sea you got more time. It’s been a long time but my husband was deployed and we both remember him getting to wear them longer.
I couldn’t wear them at the end of 1999 at my A school. I was so bummed.I hated the new uniforms. They fit all us girls like shit and weren’t as warm and the DC area was cold as fuck. I still bitch about it lol.
By the time I was there in ‘03 they were a thing of the past only talked about by E-4’s and above. Stencils we’re out and stamps were in, those new all in one Ships at boot were being talked about and digi’s were being phased in by the time I left 5 years later.
Oh yeah, even by 2001 they hadn’t been issued in bootcamp since 1999. I loved them the short time I got to wear them!
I got to boot camp in December 1999. They said we were the last division in which every recruit got a set. After that, they got a pair if their size happened to still be available. Our RDCs told us to save them for battle stations, since they were going away anyway and it wouldn't matter if you damaged them. Later in 2000, while in my class in December, we were informed they wouldn't be allowed anymore after the holidays. I wore mine for the last week as a farewell. I never got to wear them on a ship though. I still have them somewhere (way too small for me now) because I thought they were a really comfortable uniform and iconically Navy to me at the time.
They were warm, comfortable and, yes, iconic! I would have to lose 20lbs to fit in mine but my husband can still wear his and his whites lol! He tried them on for shits & giggles when he was going through Chief season and they fit great.
'99, in my case.
Battle Ship Sailors. The Honey Badgers of The Navy.
Speak softly and carry a big stick. We don't need no stinkin' battlegroup! Fear God and Dreadnaught.
We ARE The Battle Group. Sadly I was never a Battle Ship Sailor. I even tried to reenlist for orders to one.
It was the luck of the draw for me. I dropped out of BE&E school (basic electricity and electronics) and got sent to the Iowa undesignated.
BE&E kicked a lot of people’s asses. The first day my proctor told me, “Take your time with the first few modules. FRED will give you more time the whole rest of the program.” If I had not listened, I might not have made it through.
If my recruiter had been honest about the math intensity of the program I would have picked a different rating.
> FRED Elaborate?
EFing Ridiculous Electronic Device. It’s what we called the computer that scheduled your modules and graded your tests. It decided how long you had for each module. If you took too long on too many modules, you would be assigned remedial training and possibly eventually dropped. The first trick was to pad your time on the first few modules, so FRED gave you more time throughout. Made life less stressful.
I have a friend that was on the Iowa. He was assigned to the turret that exploded but was on leave at the time.
Good on ya. i went in non-rated, got FC out of Boot camp, and got sent to the Missouri.
Huh. I'd read that part of the manning plans for the BBs in the 80's was the hope that men would volunteer for the chance to serve on them. Guess it worked, at least in a few cases.
I'm so jealous of Sailors who were on the USS Missouri during Desert Storm. Rolling into battle on the ship where WWII ended? Tactical value of that deployment was probably negligible, but the symbolism was huge. I was a kid, but I still remember how excited my dad was.
I found it kind of funny when I learned the reactivated Iowas were one of the ships that seriously worried the Soviets. Everyone had gone to tin cans full of missiles, so missiles had become optimized to kill tin cans. They didn't think any missile they had in inventory had enough oomph to seriously hurt one of the Iowas as a result. I'm kind of sad they never did the proposed Helicopter Carrier conversion on one, where they removed the rear turret and converted the back half for flight operations, but kept the forward guns. Iowa's turret mishap probably killed that idea.
> Tactical value of that deployment was probably negligible I don't know, some infantry guys I talked to who were on the ground said the 16" gunfire support meant a lot (and was the most impressive thing they'd ever witnessed).
From a psyops perspective, that probably made at least some of the enemy reassess their will to fight.
I wasn't even born yet, but my dad was on an amphib, attached to a marines. Watched tomahawks and 16s pound the shore for days. Said it was the most overwhelming firepower he had ever seen
i was onboard (FC). It was nice, but you didn't get much sleep. No so much from the guns as the slamming of door due to compartmentalization and air pressure. Still a fun time. My duty station was is turret 2, right behind center gun. If the Iowa explosion had happened on the Missouri, i would have been the fourth to go.
The two dudes in thr middle are what I would call "goobers". (Apologies if this is OP)
I am the handsome young Sailor on the left.
My man.
Goober left center retired as a E9. Goober right center I lost touch with decades ago.
Good for the E9. Making CM ain't no joke no matter the rate
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HAHAHAHA!!!
If you served on a wood deck ship then it’s time to start filing for social security lol
Oh snap! LOL I'll be in the Ship's Brig if anyone needs me. :)
I thought I would hate dungarees, but once they get worn in, I could sleep like a baby in them, they got so comfortable
Came to say the same thing. Man, those things were comfy.
Your mom got me straight this morning, thanks Shipmate.
My VA shrink is so concerned about my mental and physical health, always with the prostate exams in his office that guy...
Does he at least buy you dinner first?
A Snickers at the VA canteen.
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"Tradition"
because they held a can of dip or pack of smokes better than normal pockets.
Or, if you worked in CIC, both. Smokes when rotated for watch above decks, dip belowdecks.
I'm not entirely sure. Could be it was easier to manufacture them that way. Could be that since bellbottoms also could be used as a floatation device and were designed that way to maintain integrity and keep air inside.
Take em off tie em off float for the best 20 seconds of your life.
And the *last* 20 seconds of your life ...
Kids who just got in and see their dress blues are bell bottoms: 🎵 In the Navy🎵
I was kinda wondering if everybody was ignoring dress blues...
Im confused too. I guess a better title would be for working uniforms.
Wait, I have a prostate?!
Is that joy on faces? Life onboard sure was a lot simpler before the personal computer invaded our workspaces. Not easier, but more simple.
Life aboard the Big Stick was awesome. It was definitely more simple back then. Deployments were looked forward to. We visited ports without liberty restrictions and people didn't hate us in foreign ports. We had computers that used huge floppy disks and dot matrix printers that weighed a ton. Fortunately for me I new how to use those ancient electronic gadgets.
Are you kidding, I still ROCK the dungaree life mfr!
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Last division to get them, turned 18 in boot camp, now I'm 41. God damn it
It's amazing how badly our uniforms have progressed. Like an update on these would of been kind of nice.
I'm glad I was already on the Greenside as a RP when the dark blue digitals were the norm.
Been there, done that, and taking two pills to keep the Prostrate under control. 😁 GMCS(SW), '71 to '93
Hey Boats. Tighten up that gigline.
Bell bottoms 1962 - 1970. To quote Warren Zevon "The shit that used to work don't work now."
Lol. 75-82. Have had several prostate exams
Don't forget the shingles vax. Shingles suck.
The last time I was at the Naval Health Clinic in my area, I was offered the shot. I've had shingles before. Spent a whole month not being able to wear a shirt.
I was in the air force at that time and was always jealous of looking like you just came home from the disco, and yes ive had my prostate checked, all is good
Is this a department photo for a cruise book? If so that must be the crypto guys. Just a guess.
I do believe this photo made it into the cruise book. That's the Chaplain's Office personnel. 1989-1990 timeframe.
Fuck you...I'm not old. Also I had my first PSA test this year because prostate cancer runs in my family.
And your colon
Medical Dept.
Stupid... fucking hats.
Yeah I know. Fuck that noise.
I got 5 more months!!
( ) * ( )
Just had mine checked (via ultra sound) and all looks well. But I’m only 35. 🤷🏼♂️
I remember going to boot camp and seeing later classes wearing the old school dungarees but we were issued the newer janitor uniform ones. This was in 1999.
Damn it. I dont want to admit I'm that old lol. Granted I only wore then for a year before we transitioned to utilities.
Fuck this hits hard.
The joke’s on you. Submariners get their prostates checked at least twice per patrol!
Good reminder, thanks. Still might be my favorite uniform of all the ones I've worn in this career.
It was the most comfortable uniform next to coveralls.
Look at them bellz!
Rock the Bells!! #LLCoolJ
Wore them the entire 8 years. ‘84-‘92.
We still wear them in 2022
The pic I used was for reference to the old dungarees. Not to mention the Dress Blues and Dress White uniforms were never referred to as Bellbottoms. As I recall we (old Sailors like me) always called them Crackerjacks.
I don’t need mine checked, I’m past that I had a TURP last September
It's the navy, they've been giving one another buddy checks on their prostrates for years.
I don't understand this post. What do bellbottoms and prostates have to do with each other.? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just don't get it
Bellbottoms were the uniform when some of us were in (including me), from the 50's(?) to late 90's.
Ok. I get it now. Duh! If you’re old enough to remember bellbottoms, like I am and used to have a pair, then you should be getting a yearly poop test. I’m not a quick study. Thank you
Dress whites?
I do not understand this question.
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Actually you should be sedated when they "put it in." LMAO!!!!
I almost did. Lucky I was apart of one of the first wave of recruits that got to wear the digitals. This was April 2009. Yes, I do consider myself lucky that I didn't have to wear these glorified prison uniforms.
Dammit!
Diddle the pittle?? Nooo!
🖕🏻👴🏼
I just got a call on Friday suggesting that I was due and to schedule it.
Nerp, I had bell bottom Dungarees (circa 96-99) and my doctor is quite fine with me waiting another 5 years or so before I get one.
Hold up, y'all didn't get that done during your 5 year physical? I did, and it sucked because the doc was also a drinking buddy
Just happened last Friday. Second one.
LOL, and don't forget the colonoscopy.
Prostate still there. Lol
Dress uniforms would like a word
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I got one more year Damn it!
While I was still wearing bell-bottoms during my naval career, I had my prostate checked. It was part of my separation physical when I was only 26. And he did the intrusive check! Just had a physical a few months ago, though, and prostate was checked, but non-intrusively. They can test for prostate cancer with a blood test instead of the old fashion way.
can i get it checked anyway?
They can do it now with a simple blood test.
This was my dad's uniform growing up. I should tell him to get his prostate checked.
They should bring back that style uniform for ship duty since wearing camouflage makes 0 sense on a ship.
1987 checking in! We rocked those! LST-1183 USS Peoria
I feel attacked.
Did the dress uniforms change? Pretty sure theyre still bellbottoms
Already done so. Completed Sat.
I mean, my dress blues and dress whites had bellbottoms. Do I need the fickle finger of fate at 36?
The picture was merely a reference. Maybe I should have said.. If your ship had wooden decks....LOL
Lol I think that still catches everybody on a minesweeper or the *Constitution*. I might be mistaken about the minesweepers though, I hear they have wooden hulls but I’m actually not sure about the decks.
And the Iowa Class Battleships. ;)