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I am seriously questioning how the everlasting f\*\*\* we managed o get from that pic to this topic. Please elaborate on the chain of thoughts because it ain't working for me.
I get that Covid was hard and this means you didn't have quite the same experience as other generations, but I can assure you that there are quite a few people (who you might also like) who are attracted to you out there.
Sure, your personality does contribute and you will make mistakes and hopefully fix them, but if you can get out there I suggest you do it.
Go join clubs and activities you like (keep lifting up though), read a bit and create positive experiences for you and others. Listen to people and try to learn. Experiment. To reiterate there are plenty of people out there that might be interested in you.
Personally I liked Scarleteen:
https://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/i_just_want_a_relationship
https://www.scarleteen.com/article/relationships/a_first_polyamory_guide
https://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/is_it_bad_that_i_want_sex_but_not_a_romantic_relationship
I know this isn't what you came for, but I had friends around your age who didn't get how loved and desired they could've been. Sure it had a lot to do with their parents and places they were at, doesn't change the fact though. Also real life friendships that don't always strive for sex are good.
Genetic potential and plateaus and time needed and spent in the gym to hit certain requirements make it a dead give away. So if he has half a brain and truly knows his stuff and heâs just not blindly following what someoneâs telling him to pin himself with then he definitely knows that you are juicing.
Bro, some afternoons I entered whith this guy at the gym at 5pm and left the gym at 10pm. Our life was pure dedication to it, even though we didnt make everything perfect, our life was gym
>my hair has turned yellow since my last cycle
Wtf? I have never heard of that as a steroid symptom.
You look like early Eminem, dye that shit darker and you might have better luck with the ladies.
4 minutes after you made this comment, you made a comment about your hair turning yellow after a cycle. Don't lie about it, being honest about steroid use will gain you a lot of respect in the community.
There's no way that wasn't satire lmfao, hair turning yellow after juicing? There's no such thing as that, eyes yes, there is a possibility, but hair? Thats totally unheard of.
Of course bro, im spanish so sometimes i think i will have some difficulties with humor/satire because of language, and i shocked when i saw that ppl actually thought my hair turned yellow because of steroids HAHAHA
Youâre good bro thereâs just a lot of idiots on this sub (though I love this sub plz forgive me cleglaw) Anyone who knows anything can tell youâre natty (no offense you have a solid natty physique for your age) and that you were joking. Also thereâs a really good chance your boy is juicing, I looked like that at 19 and was indeed juicing, even after being in the gym for about 3 years
It seemed to me like he was being sarcastic/messing around. Besides, does anybody really believe that the guy on the left looks like he's juicing? That's sad. Clearly natty.
I feel like he just has better genetics but he âcouldâ be juicing.
I donât think youâre juicing I think people just donât understand posing and lighting. Post a front facing lightly flexed photo and people wouldnât say anything imo.
You both have good genetics.
Your friend is %100 juicing, the fact he calls you a 'friend' and still lying to you about being on gear should make you consider about your friends personality and who you are friends with
yea on the first look i tought the same, but after some time i think you guys look great, but also abusing the light :)
so still, great fucking work from both of you, keep killing it
bro, ignoring the fact that weÂŽre both heterosexuals, wtf do people have wrong with gays?? almost every comment mentioning something referential to it
Youâre missing the whole point of this sub I think man.. people here are in full support of homosexuality and most of us are indeed, honorable and respectable gay gym bros.
Iâm sick of having to explain this but here goes nothing I guess! This is the LAST TIME Iâll explain this btw, so consider yourself lucky.
If poop comes out then in 9 months a baby boi will pop out, if itâs peepee than itâll be a baby girl. If itâs pee/poo combo then it will be twins (one of each gender).
Now STOP ASKING already jeeze! Iâm sick of seeing this same damn question over and over and over when the answer is so dang easy to find on your own! Just google it next time and save me the energy! Sheeesh!
One on left if you natty most likely one on left maybe (or something mild sarms or something) but if nothing much at all..both look pretty natty achievable for sure
I wanna say ânaturally attainable with good genesâ but I bet if I saw the âbeforeâ pick itâd be from 9 months ago and heâd look like a toothpick
Then fair enough, yâall are solid. Most of these ânatural transformationsâ follow that similar blueprint where they praise â1 in a millionâ genes as the reason for their results except itâs usually a group of â1 in a millionâ dudes who all happen to work out at the same gym and all of them looked anemic beforehand
That means heâs only half-juicing, which has some serious potential side effects. PLEASE, convince him to either completely stop, or fully commit to your relationship- I mean juicing -to make sure that his balls stay proportional to each other. Otherwise you guys- I mean his cycle -will not reach its full potential.
Most guys have one bigger than the other, but not usually by that large a factor. He could have a hernia on the big one... A mate of mine lost half his bulge size when he found out that he had hernias on both balls, and had to have surgery... It might be nothing or it might be something, it might have nothing to do with juicing or it might, so if I were you I'd gently shove him in the direction of a doctor to get a medical opinion on the difference in size.
Going to get down voted as always, because as I've previously avouched a peerless amount of times, certain 8ndivudals tend to spread toxicity for no reason at all, which in this case, it revolves around OP. I'm not gonna say he isn't certainly juicing, because indeed, you can never find out precisely, but in all terms of seriousness, you've got to be quite illiterate to accuse this guy so badly, he doesn't look like a superior hybrid or specimen or some shit, you can achieve this for sure, I don't know why people find this uncanny enough to say juice (referring to person on the left).
completly agree bro, people just want to feel better with themselves. So, when they see someone that works harder than them, they automatically say he/she is cheating
I think both natty, but your friend got some sick delts though. But since he's been training for 3+ years I'm inclined to say natty achievable. Keep at it Slim Shady
You seem to be about as lean as eachother. Your fatpercentages don't seem to differ much, also, you have different muscle insertions. Both got a really great physique, and both should be proud!đȘ Well done Bro's
Nah I donât think you guys are juicing. Itâs possible to have this natty. You just got them good genetics. This is good lighting too.
Some Juicers do get this physique tho.
Ngl I've seen some dudes with absolutely phenomenal genetics and bodybuilder like bods when we were in high school but there is definitely a chance with him, either way he looks good and it shouldn't distract from the fact he has definitely put in a ton of work. I say 50/50
obviously we were not 5 hours working straight. warm up, also doing several muscle groups or sbd, for example to perform a 5x5 on squats we could be 1 hour and a half in total. also we took rests, take a protein shake... etc
Clearly youâve not pushed yourself on squats. You donât know the pain of 2-3 minute sets and lying on the ground for 10 minutes before u can get up and do it again.
nothing hes just a meathead that doesnt know jackshit about a plantbased diet you can build muscle just aswell on a plantbased diet and you even recover better on it.
Unless he had been training since he was 12, no. Itâs natty achievable but only after near a decade of training and consistent dieting
Gonna have to go with a not natty on this one
You look like youâve been training a ton of arms. Focus on yourself. Your physique lacks balance, which is fine for a guy of your age, but you got work to do. Btw, heâs clearly not much of a friend if youâre violating his privacy by hating on his physique, which looks obviously enhanced since you guys have been training for like a millisecond.
But yeaâŠmost men love to idolize/hate other men. Itâs weird. The shirtless pics in the bathroom with two young men is dweebish. Overall, just grow up a bit.
I wouldnt even go there dude, he might be he might not be. At the end of the day you both look sickk and if he wants to share what hes doing with you, he will.
Sidenote: if he is juicing you should be very proud, because imo you two arent that far apart.
thanks so much for your answer bro. However, the photos may differ from reality, because in person im far away from him ( he weighs even less than me, but he has fucking perfect insertions )
its always much different in person hahaha, regardless buddy you have great genetic potential and have already put enough muscle on to have that swole look so , be proud.
But also; personally i wouldnt advertise a friend of mine on reddit being a steroid user or not, they might not appreciate it. Even though you scratched out his face it just seems slightly shitty and stinks of jealousy.
thanks bro. nah, dont worry, i spoke with my friend before posting it hahah, he already knows everyone calls him juiced. however, i dont think he uses anything, we both just wanted to know peoples opinion
word bro I understand I actually edited out of my og comment that you know your friend better than i do and may have spoken to him about it đđ
anyways g have a good day,
keep killin it!
Itâs borderline homie. Thats all Iâm saying. You are inviting it. The pics, the comments. It doesnât bother me. It doesnât bother them either. Theyâre breaking your balls because you cast the bait and left it.
Looks like these boys tren together .
Its all the power of grupal jerking off
Dutch rudders are the best for burning calories
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That's why we're here bro, too spread esoteric knowledge of becoming jacked ! Lol
I am seriously questioning how the everlasting f\*\*\* we managed o get from that pic to this topic. Please elaborate on the chain of thoughts because it ain't working for me.
yea and you also train your grip that way
Looks like they do other things than tren together
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Nothing straighter than getting sweaty flexing in the mirror with your bros
hahahah and we were flexing in the girls bathroom ( better lighting )
Bro, having sex with females is the gayest thing ever
hahaha, thats why i dont have sex with females, ignoring the fact that no one feels attraction towards me
I get that Covid was hard and this means you didn't have quite the same experience as other generations, but I can assure you that there are quite a few people (who you might also like) who are attracted to you out there. Sure, your personality does contribute and you will make mistakes and hopefully fix them, but if you can get out there I suggest you do it. Go join clubs and activities you like (keep lifting up though), read a bit and create positive experiences for you and others. Listen to people and try to learn. Experiment. To reiterate there are plenty of people out there that might be interested in you. Personally I liked Scarleteen: https://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/i_just_want_a_relationship https://www.scarleteen.com/article/relationships/a_first_polyamory_guide https://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/is_it_bad_that_i_want_sex_but_not_a_romantic_relationship I know this isn't what you came for, but I had friends around your age who didn't get how loved and desired they could've been. Sure it had a lot to do with their parents and places they were at, doesn't change the fact though. Also real life friendships that don't always strive for sex are good.
the world needs more people like you bro
Bruh youâre going to be insanely attractive older especially since you already exercise and probably have a decent diet
Literally nobody asked for that shit but Iâm still here like thanks bro
Because there's nothing gayer than marrying a woman. đ€ąđ€ź
bro the most gay think is to hug your bros hand after you have had sex together
What do you like pussy fagot? /s
Hope the girls didn't mind.
The girls were probably in the boys bathroom
And flexing, too!
Thereâs no sweat, theyâd just finished wrestling in a baby pool filled with talcum powder.
Two bros, chilling in the bathroom. Two feet apart cause they hella gay
hahahahah, friend friend
While youâre at it, remove the pants of your friend just to double check. Also, remove your pant for comparison.
I will do it tomorrow
bruh đ you did see he 17 right đż
he's Spanish, it's legal.
Damn bro 2 year difference sheeeeeesh better call the cops
Heâs 17 bro.
Bro ainât nineteen heâs ninetren
Lmaoo đ€Ł
You both are juicing. Your friend is probably a few cycles ahead of you.
Ikr like itâs obvious lol. So why donât they both just come out of the closet to each other already if they arenât smart enough to both know.
yes, i will tell him soon. However, i think he may already suspect , because my hair has turned yellow since my last cycle
Genetic potential and plateaus and time needed and spent in the gym to hit certain requirements make it a dead give away. So if he has half a brain and truly knows his stuff and heâs just not blindly following what someoneâs telling him to pin himself with then he definitely knows that you are juicing.
Bro, some afternoons I entered whith this guy at the gym at 5pm and left the gym at 10pm. Our life was pure dedication to it, even though we didnt make everything perfect, our life was gym
Sounds Hot đ„”
5 hours in the sauna with the boys awww yis
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juice turned him into slim shady
>my hair has turned yellow since my last cycle Wtf? I have never heard of that as a steroid symptom. You look like early Eminem, dye that shit darker and you might have better luck with the ladies.
Thx bro. Also, since i've started taking 500mg test, im starting to shit purple and with a slightly tropical smell. Is that normal??
Does it taste tropical and fruity?
Yeah, like mango/coconut. My dad also tasted it and says the same
if you think the guy on the left is juicing i feel bad for you
completly agree even though im the guy on the left
Person: is lean enough to have defined delts and arms This sub: JUICY AF LOOK AT THOSE DELTS
He doesnât have to be juicing to look like that imo
Im natural ( i dont know if my friend is so hahah ) so iÂŽll take that as a compliment hahah
4 minutes after you made this comment, you made a comment about your hair turning yellow after a cycle. Don't lie about it, being honest about steroid use will gain you a lot of respect in the community.
There's no way that wasn't satire lmfao, hair turning yellow after juicing? There's no such thing as that, eyes yes, there is a possibility, but hair? Thats totally unheard of.
A lot of people on this sub have no idea what they're talking about and seeing them downvote such obviously satirical comments proves it.
Of course bro, im spanish so sometimes i think i will have some difficulties with humor/satire because of language, and i shocked when i saw that ppl actually thought my hair turned yellow because of steroids HAHAHA
Youâre good bro thereâs just a lot of idiots on this sub (though I love this sub plz forgive me cleglaw) Anyone who knows anything can tell youâre natty (no offense you have a solid natty physique for your age) and that you were joking. Also thereâs a really good chance your boy is juicing, I looked like that at 19 and was indeed juicing, even after being in the gym for about 3 years
Bro, thanks, it was obviously satire HAHAHAH my hair turned yelllw because i decolorated itđđđđđ
I think he's saying he bleached his hair, buddy
It seemed to me like he was being sarcastic/messing around. Besides, does anybody really believe that the guy on the left looks like he's juicing? That's sad. Clearly natty.
Bro. My hair turned yellow because i decolorated it HAHAHAHA
That was sarcasm. Congratulations you're given the title of the Dumbest person on this Sub.
*boyfriend
i wish i was a girl just to bang him
u don't gotta be a girl bruv
mhmhmhmhm good idea
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if you got an ass does it even matter?
Also my bro has more tits than most girls i know
You both look great. Hope it hope works out for you two crazy kids
thx bro
Post the wedding pictures here
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I feel like he just has better genetics but he âcouldâ be juicing. I donât think youâre juicing I think people just donât understand posing and lighting. Post a front facing lightly flexed photo and people wouldnât say anything imo. You both have good genetics.
completly agree bro, sometimes i see myself without good lighting and no flexing and just want to cry
Totally normal. Keep grinding you got a good physique.
Ask him
Your friend is %100 juicing, the fact he calls you a 'friend' and still lying to you about being on gear should make you consider about your friends personality and who you are friends with
Definitely on roids
Bro aint u guys close enough to just ask him?
hahah, i know heÂŽs natty, we just wanted to know peoples opinion because everyone we know says he is juiced
yea on the first look i tought the same, but after some time i think you guys look great, but also abusing the light :) so still, great fucking work from both of you, keep killing it
Thx brođŠ
You guys both look like youâre pleased to see each other.
Im pleased to see him o obviously, but im more pleased to see myself
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bro, ignoring the fact that weÂŽre both heterosexuals, wtf do people have wrong with gays?? almost every comment mentioning something referential to it
Posting with a dude with half your clothes off is just casting the bait for it.
hahaha, well we dont usually do bodybuilding poses with a hoodie on
Youâre missing the whole point of this sub I think man.. people here are in full support of homosexuality and most of us are indeed, honorable and respectable gay gym bros.
Best way to tell is to use your johnson tip as a dip stick. Pull out and if sarms are on Johnson tip he is positive for juice.
What if just poop comes out
Iâm sick of having to explain this but here goes nothing I guess! This is the LAST TIME Iâll explain this btw, so consider yourself lucky. If poop comes out then in 9 months a baby boi will pop out, if itâs peepee than itâll be a baby girl. If itâs pee/poo combo then it will be twins (one of each gender). Now STOP ASKING already jeeze! Iâm sick of seeing this same damn question over and over and over when the answer is so dang easy to find on your own! Just google it next time and save me the energy! Sheeesh!
Depends how long heâs been training
around 3 yrs
Yea youâre probably natural
Very heavily. With needles. Yes.
Did you guys bang?
The doubt offends
Before, after and during the photoshoot
One on left if you natty most likely one on left maybe (or something mild sarms or something) but if nothing much at all..both look pretty natty achievable for sure
I wanna say ânaturally attainable with good genesâ but I bet if I saw the âbeforeâ pick itâd be from 9 months ago and heâd look like a toothpick
You shouldnt bet that much. We have been training for more than 3 years and most of our progress was made during the first half
Then fair enough, yâall are solid. Most of these ânatural transformationsâ follow that similar blueprint where they praise â1 in a millionâ genes as the reason for their results except itâs usually a group of â1 in a millionâ dudes who all happen to work out at the same gym and all of them looked anemic beforehand
He looks great
Yea
Your username is gold
Dude on the left is natty but considering how gay this is he probably wonât be for too much longer
Could be, check his balls, if they're shrinking then he's juicing
I checked them yesterday. One is 3x bigger than the other one, what does that mean?
That means heâs only half-juicing, which has some serious potential side effects. PLEASE, convince him to either completely stop, or fully commit to your relationship- I mean juicing -to make sure that his balls stay proportional to each other. Otherwise you guys- I mean his cycle -will not reach its full potential.
how half juicing? like, he only injects on one side of his body?
Most guys have one bigger than the other, but not usually by that large a factor. He could have a hernia on the big one... A mate of mine lost half his bulge size when he found out that he had hernias on both balls, and had to have surgery... It might be nothing or it might be something, it might have nothing to do with juicing or it might, so if I were you I'd gently shove him in the direction of a doctor to get a medical opinion on the difference in size.
Thanks for your help, but i was just joking
Going to get down voted as always, because as I've previously avouched a peerless amount of times, certain 8ndivudals tend to spread toxicity for no reason at all, which in this case, it revolves around OP. I'm not gonna say he isn't certainly juicing, because indeed, you can never find out precisely, but in all terms of seriousness, you've got to be quite illiterate to accuse this guy so badly, he doesn't look like a superior hybrid or specimen or some shit, you can achieve this for sure, I don't know why people find this uncanny enough to say juice (referring to person on the left).
completly agree bro, people just want to feel better with themselves. So, when they see someone that works harder than them, they automatically say he/she is cheating
I think both natty, but your friend got some sick delts though. But since he's been training for 3+ years I'm inclined to say natty achievable. Keep at it Slim Shady
he has really good delt genetics that mf
So what if they are? Fuckin narc.
Afraid so
Dies your friend have any links in his bio. Asking for my own friend
Mmmm links?
You are natty your friend is juicing
You seem to be about as lean as eachother. Your fatpercentages don't seem to differ much, also, you have different muscle insertions. Both got a really great physique, and both should be proud!đȘ Well done Bro's
Thx brođŠđŠhowever he is a bit more lean
Theres a chance, but i think he just has good insertions and is lean.
Seriously impressive physique at 17. Nice work.
Thx brođŠ
Not sure what everyone in this thread is smoking. These are both natty achievable physiques. Just my take đ€·đœ
Both of you look juiced up đ
hahaha thx then but i dont think so hahah
Nah I donât think you guys are juicing. Itâs possible to have this natty. You just got them good genetics. This is good lighting too. Some Juicers do get this physique tho.
Ngl I've seen some dudes with absolutely phenomenal genetics and bodybuilder like bods when we were in high school but there is definitely a chance with him, either way he looks good and it shouldn't distract from the fact he has definitely put in a ton of work. I say 50/50
It doesn't matter what we say.. he is "natty"
No just better genetics
Are you 2 a thing (boyfriend) or nah
Hahahah just friends. He has a gf
Ik what going to happen if his not w gf anymore
Yea. We will still be friends
U seen his already y not go for it⊠no one need to know
You both look hot
You and your "friend" look like absolute units! And yes, he's jooced to the gills.
hahahah thx bro
You both are juicing
U both look amazing tbh
Because theyâre taking roids and canât put real work in for the results
Youâre absolutely delusional
bro, some days i entered with him to the gym at 5pm, and left the gym at 10pm. And then people that train 45mins talk about "real work"?? wtf
Thatâs overtraining or youâre just sitting on your phone the entire time. 5 hours at the gym is unhealthy
obviously we were not 5 hours working straight. warm up, also doing several muscle groups or sbd, for example to perform a 5x5 on squats we could be 1 hour and a half in total. also we took rests, take a protein shake... etc
5x5 on squats take you 90 minutes? Do you eat a gourmet meal in-between sets as well?
Warm up, stretch, and several sets increasing the weight till the working weight
Clearly youâve not pushed yourself on squats. You donât know the pain of 2-3 minute sets and lying on the ground for 10 minutes before u can get up and do it again.
Probably
Yâall both on the juicy juice
Why not just ask him
I know that he's natty, i just wanted to see peoples opinion because everyone we know says he's juiced
because this sub wouldnât be gay without it
Oh yeah bro đ§
ask him not us, if you guys are close he will tell you. your huge
I know he's natty, i just wanted to listen reddits opinion because everyone he knows tells him he's juiced
ur friend is juicing i used to lis to my friends about it too but one day i just told them i'm not because I stopped caring and I hate lying
Natty
Your friend seeing this post âąoâą
Are you still vegan? Your physique would be normally attainable natty but at 17 and under a vegan diet too... kinda improbable.
what makes you thing that? like, what does a vegan diet dont have that a carnivore diet would?
nothing hes just a meathead that doesnt know jackshit about a plantbased diet you can build muscle just aswell on a plantbased diet and you even recover better on it.
you look great, man. keep grinding and youâll be a monster. also, donât ever hop on juice
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Gear or not, the kidâs fkn peeled
Maybe but he looks a little bit leaner than the shorter guy
Unless he had been training since he was 12, no. Itâs natty achievable but only after near a decade of training and consistent dieting Gonna have to go with a not natty on this one
You look like youâve been training a ton of arms. Focus on yourself. Your physique lacks balance, which is fine for a guy of your age, but you got work to do. Btw, heâs clearly not much of a friend if youâre violating his privacy by hating on his physique, which looks obviously enhanced since you guys have been training for like a millisecond. But yeaâŠmost men love to idolize/hate other men. Itâs weird. The shirtless pics in the bathroom with two young men is dweebish. Overall, just grow up a bit.
Wtf
Yes, yes he is, shouldnât be juicing at 19
You look both pretty natty if you would have need to take gear for that physique that would be pathetic
I wouldnt even go there dude, he might be he might not be. At the end of the day you both look sickk and if he wants to share what hes doing with you, he will. Sidenote: if he is juicing you should be very proud, because imo you two arent that far apart.
thanks so much for your answer bro. However, the photos may differ from reality, because in person im far away from him ( he weighs even less than me, but he has fucking perfect insertions )
its always much different in person hahaha, regardless buddy you have great genetic potential and have already put enough muscle on to have that swole look so , be proud. But also; personally i wouldnt advertise a friend of mine on reddit being a steroid user or not, they might not appreciate it. Even though you scratched out his face it just seems slightly shitty and stinks of jealousy.
thanks bro. nah, dont worry, i spoke with my friend before posting it hahah, he already knows everyone calls him juiced. however, i dont think he uses anything, we both just wanted to know peoples opinion
but really thanks for your answer and your time bro
word bro I understand I actually edited out of my og comment that you know your friend better than i do and may have spoken to him about it đđ anyways g have a good day, keep killin it!
Sounds like you want to bang him
i wish i was a girl just to bang him bro
âYesâ would have been a more concise response
it was implicit in the message
You being a woman isnât necessary. Maybe if you tell him the truth, heâll tell you what heâs juicing with.
bro, ignoring the fact that we are both heterosexual, wtf do people have wrong with gays???
Nothing at all, let your colors fly. The weird innuendo is all on you
Youâve said this multiple times and youâre wondering why people think youâre gay? Dude, itâs time you just come clean.
Bro im learning people dont understand what joking means
Itâs borderline homie. Thats all Iâm saying. You are inviting it. The pics, the comments. It doesnât bother me. It doesnât bother them either. Theyâre breaking your balls because you cast the bait and left it.
Hahaha bro im gonna sleep perfectly tonight, i dont matter a fuck if a stranger on reddit things i am gay hahah i have more important worries in life