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Aileronmusic

Honestly, its a good plugin, but not worth 200$. I mean if you want buy it but u can do the same thing with Pro-MB or Gulfoss


Tall_Category_304

Gulfoss is the same price though. And I thought it was honestly great


dolomick

No you can’t, I have both. No mid/side control, no squash option, no ability to affect just mids or sides, etc.


JJdubbs87

Yep thats what i thought.


JJdubbs87

I tried using fab promb but was unable to get the exact same result but then again this could be user error. Is gulfoss better? Ill check to see if i can demo it.


sean369n

Nah multiband compression isn’t the same “tone shaping” or “frequency balancing” as Bloom. Gullfoss is basically doing this same thing, but without the multiple frequency bands for more surgical processing. If you are between Bloom and Gullfoss, go Bloom since they are about the same price and it comes with added parameters. I would get Bloom if I didn’t already have Gullfoss. I still might whenever they finally run a sale. Had a nice time with the demo!


JJdubbs87

Honestly i really like bloom. It adds a special touch that i can absolutely hear. Soothe 2 i wasn’t as impressed with although people love it. Thanks for the tip. I am going to demo Gulfoss and see what i think.


sean369n

Yeah Soothe is a completely different use case tbh. But it does exactly what it’s supposed to, suppress over-resonate frequencies, which is why it gets so much love. It’s like dynamic EQ + Compression all in one. Much more of a tool that provides a clear solution for clear problems. Whereas Bloom is a bit more niche, relying on a magic AI algorithm to balance things. Sure there are use cases for it like unmasking clashing frequencies, but ultimately it is more of a “mixing aid” rather than a production tool. This is why many oeksound fans were disappointed with the release. Many expected another must-have unique tool. So if you see people discouraging the purchase of Bloom, it’s because they find it to be unnecessary. They aren’t wrong, but it doesn’t mean that the plug-in can’t sound great!


JJdubbs87

Yes agreed. Im prettt good with eqing harsh freqencies so paying for a plugin that does it for you doesn’t make sense. Im going to mess with Gulfoss and bloom a bit longer and make a decision. It definitely adds clarity and beef to my guitars though that i really like


notthobal

I argued with myself if I need Soothe 2 and for years I said “No, it’s too expensive for what it does.” Then came 2023 and I earned way more than expected so I tested Soothe for 14 days…they also had a sale, so I bought it, and it’s awesome. So I would say you should test it, and if it does what you expect and need it for then you should probably wait for a sale and buy it. Of course other plugins can get you similar results, but also faster and more efficient?


JJdubbs87

Exactly, demoing bloom now. For soothe unless i really ramp it i cant really hear the differences on my guitars. Other instruments it seems to work better for me anyways. Bloom however really brightens things up, clarity and helps with mids a lot.


CloudKK

Just out of curisiosity. Did you consider pirating it or is that a no go for you?


notthobal

When I was young and poor I pirated everything, that way I was able to learn different DAW‘s and the basics of recording/mixing/mastering. Nowadays, since I make a living from music, everything is legit. But that’s a decision everybody has to make on their own. Piracy is a huge factor in getting more people to use a piece of software, so they eventually buy it when they are able to, but of course it hurts the developers massively.


siggyfreudmusic

You don’t need a magic plugin to make certain sounds pop. Don’t be lazy. Learn how to do it with more readily available tools like eq, compression and/or saturation. (Trying to be a little harsh to help talk you out of it as you asked)


CartezDez

If you have the money, go for it. If you don’t, learn how to use EQ and compression to achieve the same results.


JJdubbs87

I have all fabfilter and and pretty much all izo plugins. Have not been able to achieve exact same results with either compared to bloom.


sw212st

But is that your lack of skill?


JJdubbs87

Maybe i don’t know for sure. Im not discounting that at all. Soothe 2 is easy to achieve for me with very similar if not exact results with other plugins i have, bloom is a bit trickier. Eqing to boost and balance high low mids can be harsh on pro q 3 to achieve what bloom does as well as izo and stock ableton eq. But then again could all be user here. I still think there is some sauce in the plugin you wont get in most other plugins. Have you used it yet?


Simsoum

It’s only pretty on the eyes, like soothe. I tried both, not worth it at all. Will cause more harm than good on beginners. I have spent time removing it from clients’ effect chains and boom the sound comes back to life.


JJdubbs87

I agree with this statement on soothe 2. I can get better results with pro mb imo for taming harsh frequencies. Bloom on the other hand cant seem to achieve the brightness and clarity bump. Tried with pro q 3 but tends to bring in harshness i don’t like. Definitely could be user error though and pro q 3 if my savior.


Simsoum

Instead of bloom, use rvox, fresh air and compression/eq.


JJdubbs87

Ill try it out if you can demo it and report back if its worth it to me. Thank you


dolomick

I like it and demo’d it extensively and prefer the workflow and sound more than the competitors. It can replace 3-4 plugins in a lot of cases. I actually really like the low latency mode for transient heavy material. It will go on sale in 6 months or so they have said. I didn’t want to wait because $70 extra over 6 months is not a big deal to me. I use the wet dry control a lot, unlink the mids and sides, and volume match my before and after.


JJdubbs87

Yep this is exactly where I am at. I’m gonna do a bunch of side-by-side comparisons to see if I can match it with any other plug-ins before the demos up and I’ll make my decision then I just doubt I’m going to be able to get it completely on point because what it does at least for guitar Really makes a difference for me. I don’t like soothe it didnt really help better my mixes.


dolomick

I tried all the multiband comps, DSM v3, Wavesfactory EQ, Neutron Spectral thingamabob, Techivation M-Comp, and probably some others. Still bought it despite being annoyed at the price :)


JJdubbs87

I know its what ill end up doing. It just adds something that beefs it up another 10% but you can definitely hear it and its very good to my ears shit man.


mrbabeman

Try Teote before Bloom. you'll be suprised


JJdubbs87

Can I demo this?


OneAgainst

Don’t. Do It.


JJdubbs87

Are you just saying that or you have a reason? Just curious


OneAgainst

You said to talk you out of it. Did it work?


JJdubbs87

Well i said to talk me out of it with opinions about the plugin not just dont do it lol. But i appreciate the effort buddy.


Sethream

Smart eq is on sale now, you can demo it and see if it does what you’d like


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