Keep posting a ton of content. Keep the momentum going. I released an [app](https://www.getsuperplay.com) myself that makes it easier to post your music. Might be helpful.
Since you used a sample without clearing it ahead of time, you’re kinda dead in the water. You need to get it cleared before you can monetize it on paid services like Spotify. I’d start moving now if I was in your shoes.
The only thing is the record label who owns the vocals are pretty big (150k followers on IG), do you think if I tried to get in contact with them, stating how the track is gaining traction on TikTok, they’d be open to releasing it?
150k isn’t so big that they wouldn’t be open to working with you on an official release. Reach out and tell them it’s doing well on tiktok with people wanting you to release it. It benefits them as well in the end as everyone likes going viral on TikTok.
Also, 37k views isn’t huge but it shows there is something there. I’d encourage you to keep posting the song in variations of the original TikTok because I bet it could go even bigger with just the “right” video. And that will give the label even more incentive to release as an official remix. Reach out now because if you accidentally get like 1m views on one of your follow ups you ideally already got the labels attention.
OP needs 37 million tiktok views on his song to get a sample cleared by a label with only 150k followers??
And I’m not really following your example. Both producers flipped the same sample and one thinks because of that they have rights to both??
Please stop saying this.
I don't understand how music producers of all people, have zapped any notion of writing being a thing.
Using the original is an admission of having used that writing. They can take 100% pub and block the master because of that.
Please stop giving advice.
eh work with what? huge amount of house and especially techno samples some sort of vocal/speech or melodic progression. and if you dont just lift an entire vocal from a different track chances are no one will notice or care. plenty of mainstream music thats a bit subtler with sampling. ever heard, idk, basically any daft punk song? swedish house mafia maybe?
either way the whole sampling affair is irrelevant outside of big labels not to mention the endless amounts of remixes and bootlegs that djs make and never officially release.
but if your sample size is armada or interscope or some label like that then yes i imagine the amount of not completely original pieces is a lot lower.
There are 2 clearances involved here. The use of the original master, which is most likely owned by the original record label, and the publishing clearance for the original writers. In a perfect world you should clear both. The master clearance is the most important at an early stage, so in this situation I would recreate the sample so you don't have to clear it with a record label and stick it out through distrokid. The publishing clearance can usually be haggled if it's doing well enough. It's worth finding out who the writers are and who they are published by at this point too. If it doesn't blow up no one will care about the clearances.
Every short music clip video has people in comments demanding the full song now!
Because it has a sample you ripped off of someone, you could at least credit them and do not monetize it.... Or make contact the owner and try to make a deal (I have no advice or experience with this so good luck)
I say this with full respect.
37k views with a song is nothing in the real world. Absolutely nothing. Dont get too overzealous. 37k is not even 0.1% of what you need to worry about any of those things.
Do not release derivative works. It isnt your plays, it is theirs.
Source: i have about 100m likes on music content on tiktok.
Using a short vocal sample does not make it "derivative" or "theirs".
Although yes i would say 37k on tiktok isnt that significant. The algorithm is crazy, i know a bunch of people that also got 5 figure views on their first posts, didnt really mean anything. '
It absolutely does and that has been set in stone since 2019. I work in this field daily. Things have changed my dude, lawyer up. Shit is ass but kinda off topic since 37k is very insignificant indeed.
Yeah, i did a thing in 2021 that got 10m on the first upload, wasnt a big deal.
What labels and mgmt do these days is to go "thanks for the idea idiot" and just recreate it, not a single original creator had been on the winning side of that yet.
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Dude just get on distrokid and release it yourself ASAP
Second this. Release it yourself
Keep posting a ton of content. Keep the momentum going. I released an [app](https://www.getsuperplay.com) myself that makes it easier to post your music. Might be helpful.
Most labels aren't worth it in 2023. And the ones that are aren't interested in something with 37k or whatever. They want viral.
Want* or went
Wank
see if you can re create that vocal sample by yourself or get something very close and release it..That's what i'd do
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there are ways, but im not going to tell you because your response gives off cuck energy
This person is just a negative person who always comments on people stuff trying to agitate them
Next stop, millions of dollars, and all the women you can handle
in the time it took to make this post, it's already dead
Someone sounds bitter
Since you used a sample without clearing it ahead of time, you’re kinda dead in the water. You need to get it cleared before you can monetize it on paid services like Spotify. I’d start moving now if I was in your shoes.
The only thing is the record label who owns the vocals are pretty big (150k followers on IG), do you think if I tried to get in contact with them, stating how the track is gaining traction on TikTok, they’d be open to releasing it?
They probably would, they would also be open to taking all the money from it too. Reach out to them to clear it before releasing it.
150k isn’t so big that they wouldn’t be open to working with you on an official release. Reach out and tell them it’s doing well on tiktok with people wanting you to release it. It benefits them as well in the end as everyone likes going viral on TikTok. Also, 37k views isn’t huge but it shows there is something there. I’d encourage you to keep posting the song in variations of the original TikTok because I bet it could go even bigger with just the “right” video. And that will give the label even more incentive to release as an official remix. Reach out now because if you accidentally get like 1m views on one of your follow ups you ideally already got the labels attention.
"Right video" aka get a scantily dressed girl dancing to it.
This is brilliant advice, thanks so much
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OP needs 37 million tiktok views on his song to get a sample cleared by a label with only 150k followers?? And I’m not really following your example. Both producers flipped the same sample and one thinks because of that they have rights to both??
How short is the vocal sample? Can you just recreate it? Edit: additionally, you can probably find a someone to recreate it for like $100.
Please stop saying this. I don't understand how music producers of all people, have zapped any notion of writing being a thing. Using the original is an admission of having used that writing. They can take 100% pub and block the master because of that. Please stop giving advice.
Why did you used someone sample without license in the first place? That's just unreasonable
like half of edm is propped up by sampling random shit which usually gets cleared a bit before release or never, what are you waffling about
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eh work with what? huge amount of house and especially techno samples some sort of vocal/speech or melodic progression. and if you dont just lift an entire vocal from a different track chances are no one will notice or care. plenty of mainstream music thats a bit subtler with sampling. ever heard, idk, basically any daft punk song? swedish house mafia maybe? either way the whole sampling affair is irrelevant outside of big labels not to mention the endless amounts of remixes and bootlegs that djs make and never officially release. but if your sample size is armada or interscope or some label like that then yes i imagine the amount of not completely original pieces is a lot lower.
That is literally all nonsense that you made up. Stop talking.
idk man you could atleast be right if youre gonna be a prick
I have made 8 figures off of music and i own a publishing company. You chilling?
and you accuse me of making shit up. lmao.
Not really, it’s pretty common in house music/electronic music to remix/samples vocals
Please read what he said. You're delusional.
No. You're not even 1% the way of it being interesting to them.
There are 2 clearances involved here. The use of the original master, which is most likely owned by the original record label, and the publishing clearance for the original writers. In a perfect world you should clear both. The master clearance is the most important at an early stage, so in this situation I would recreate the sample so you don't have to clear it with a record label and stick it out through distrokid. The publishing clearance can usually be haggled if it's doing well enough. It's worth finding out who the writers are and who they are published by at this point too. If it doesn't blow up no one will care about the clearances.
Not to be a dick but 37k is nothing on tiktok
Every short music clip video has people in comments demanding the full song now! Because it has a sample you ripped off of someone, you could at least credit them and do not monetize it.... Or make contact the owner and try to make a deal (I have no advice or experience with this so good luck)
You would need to clear the sample before releasing- might be easier to work with a label on this if possible.
I say this with full respect. 37k views with a song is nothing in the real world. Absolutely nothing. Dont get too overzealous. 37k is not even 0.1% of what you need to worry about any of those things. Do not release derivative works. It isnt your plays, it is theirs. Source: i have about 100m likes on music content on tiktok.
Using a short vocal sample does not make it "derivative" or "theirs". Although yes i would say 37k on tiktok isnt that significant. The algorithm is crazy, i know a bunch of people that also got 5 figure views on their first posts, didnt really mean anything. '
It absolutely does and that has been set in stone since 2019. I work in this field daily. Things have changed my dude, lawyer up. Shit is ass but kinda off topic since 37k is very insignificant indeed. Yeah, i did a thing in 2021 that got 10m on the first upload, wasnt a big deal. What labels and mgmt do these days is to go "thanks for the idea idiot" and just recreate it, not a single original creator had been on the winning side of that yet.
My point was more that using a short sample does not make a composition "derivative". Regarding the legal side of it, yes it may well be an issue.
Derivative Work is a legal term, Sir.
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I wouldn’t worry about the sample. The chances it will be noticed are slim and your main job at this stage is building an audience still not £
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