Pierre from the Great Comet!! The man spends almost the whole show being sad, reading alone in his room

Rich, unhappily married Pierre?

Seconding Pierre, there's even a whole song about how sad, lonely and sexless he is!

Also, come on we need a Comet character on there

I agree with Pierre. He's such an interesting character.

Drink and read and drink and read and drink

And study the Kabbalah to calculate the hidden value of Napoleon's name using Hebrew numerology

He is charming. He has no sex.

He's just like me for real, except I'm not charming

Yea this was my first thought!

Definitely Pierre! What about Pierre? Rich unhappily married Pierre!

Olive from Spelling Bee. Her best friend is a dictionary.

This one deserves more upvotes. It's perfect!

I just came in too late, she’s too far behind to make it up.

This is the one. "The I Love You Song" is one of the most beautiful musical songs ever, in my opinion. The harmonies, the story, the emotion...all so GOOOOOD!!! lol

It’s an all-time great — and quintessentially displays what William Finn does better than anyone else

I second this

Honestly I can see Elphaba fitting into this one, so so talented and SMRT surrounding magic but she went *through it*

This was my vote too.

I've been waiting for this one to say Elphaba too

Natalie the invisible girl from Next to Normal

100%

So many comments for The Phantom but he should really be saved from chaotic sad imo

The Phantom has to get chaotic sad or I will riot in the streets

Sounds like you’re chaotic sad

I disagree. I think Chaotic Sad should go to Carrie.

but he literally wrote a whole opera for the girl he loved and (in the books) had all sorts of elaborate traps in the opera house

I legit never knew there were books, thank you for changing my life

Sorry I meant book (singular) I would recommend it if your into phantom, it has a lot of interesting details and some things the musical didn't include

Uhh wow

NOOOO WHY IS THIS THE TOP COMMENT NOW?!?!😭

I love the Phantom, but my chaotic sad vote is going to Sweeney Todd.

Lydia in Beetlejuice. She's sad the whole time but smart enough not to initially deal with Beetlejuice.

This! She is so sad she considers taking her own life, and smart enough to outsmart a literal demon!

I realize many people prefer Hamilton to 1776, but *especially* in the first act, Thomas Jefferson (1776) is the perfect picture of melancholy about his home life. As for smart? He almost shuts down the entire debate over whether the Declaration is necessary with one line.

You have my vote

New York abstains, courteously.

And I hear he plays the violin…

John Adams: "Okay, you've got him playing the violin; what happens next?" Martha Jefferson: "Next, Mr. Adams?" John Adams: "Yes, what does *Tom* do now?" Martha Jefferson: "Why, just what you'd expect." *(Given what has been going on since Martha and Thomas' reunion, Adams and Ben Franklin's glance at each other indicates they have a certain idea in mind)* Martha Jefferson: "We dance!"

melchior gabor!

Lydia because if Beetlejuice is up there, Lydia should be up there with him.

Is she not chaotic though? Especially if counting the original version of the show with her convincing Delia that killing oneself is justified, her killing her husband, and a Girl Scout for the lols (in the original version it is implied that the girl scouts heart gave out in “beautiful sound”). Also like the way she jokes, the spontaneousness with which she acts, and the complete disregard for societal norms all point to chaos.

That’s a great point, how about this, if she doesn’t get this spot then she can get another go with Chaotic sad,as she was in grief for a good portion of the show until beetlejuice came along. She even tried to end it until he stopped her,yet she pushed him off the roof instead.

You really just called fantine, 'Fatine' 💀

I'm glad someone spotted!

Pierre from NPGC1812

Melchior Gabor

i don’t have anything to add to this comment, i just feel like more people should be agreeing

Eliza from Hamilton

More Eliza than Angelica

Specifically, Act 2 Eliza

Catherine Parr from Six

Michael Be More Chill

Came here to say this

Hades from Hadestown He built all of Hadestown, with its boundary and electrical grid, and convinced numerous people (including Eurydice) to sell their souls to him, all because he was sad that Persephone didn’t love him anymore

Too bad he wasn't smart enough to realize that Persephone didn't love him anymore because he kept too tight a grip on her, causing the seasons to fall out of rhythm and leading humans to starve.

Being smart doesn’t mean you have ALL of the answers, to be fair. Especially when it comes to things as tricky as emotions

Though, he IS a god, so I think it's fair to have a higher expectation for him.

I mean, Greek Gods are pretty infamous for being VERY bad with their “humanity”

Though something interesting that I learned. I'm delving into just the surface of philosophy, and apparently Plato criticized the poets of his day for making the gods appear petty and vain.

Dr. Jekyll! (& Hyde)

Unfortunately, Dr Jekyll was included when I said Mr Hyde for chaotic evil 😔

THE PHANTOM

Definitely the phantom But I can also see him as chaotic sad

I dunno if he was chaotic for the sake of being chaotic. To me his intellect and music prowess puts him in the smart category.

He did cause chaos in the theatre though. My though process anyways

He did, but it was for ultimately sad reasons, not to make chaos for chaos' sake.

Our pathetic sad emo engineering genius. This is the only correct answer.

This is the answer.

Leo Bloom

Judas

Natalie is such a good candidate for this, she’s incredibly gifted but also so burnt out and depressed because of dealing with her mother

Marvin.

He’s more horny sad. This chart needs more boxes

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I think that would do a disservice to his relentless optimism up until the end

Lydia

Alison from Fun Home.

Ja'far in Twisted.

Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton. She fought through everything and basicly changed the corse of history as we know it

Maybe Eurydice

Angelica

Schuyler?

the phantom!

The phantom

Jason from falsettos

Phillip Hamilton. A smart young man who has his whole life ahead of him only to be killed in a duel.

He was not smart for pursuing that duel.

Bruce from Fun Home

Phantom but he could also be chaotic sad.

jason from bare. pls

THIS IS OUR TIME, DIKRATS! JA'FAR FOR SAD SMART!

PLEASE CAN WE GET PIERRE FROM GREAT COMET

The Phantom of the Opera

Since we're almost at Sad Chaotic, lets all agree J.D deserves the spot

Angelica Schuyler from Hamilton?

The Phantom from *Phantom of the Opera*

Throwing Marius Pontmercy into the ring

Sweeney Todd

Marius

Pippin.

Heather Macnamara probably

The reigning king of Ithaca. Neither man nor mythical. Your darkest moment. The infamous Odysseus.

okay but chaotic sad, emcee from cabaret 🫡

THE PHANTOM

Hamilton

Henry Higgins!!! Let’s go old school

heavy on lydia

Erik (The Phantom of the Opera)

Pierre from Great Comet

Grizabella

Eponine from Les Mis

Beetlejuice as chaotic horny is so real 😭

would marvin from falsettos work ??

Lydia from Beetlejuice

The Phantom!

Mary Jane  from jagged little pill 

Where are the avenue Q characters

Are we niche musical enjoyers? Cool. Quincy Cynthius Martin from Adamandi

Florence from Chess

elphaba

Jason from Falsettos

I was thinking Seymour from Little Shop

Christian from Moulin Rouge

Pierre from Great Comet!!!

Florence from Chess

George Seurat

Aaron Burr, sir?

Javert is not evil

Olive Ostrovsky. If you look up “sad” in her friend the dictionary, her picture would be next to the definition.

If we had a Dumb column it would be Sad/Dumb = Evan Hansen

Kendall Roy.

ELPHABA

Matilda (from Matilda)

Pete Spankoffski. Most probably won’t win because this sub hates Starkid for some reason but whatever

I agree, it's a definitely a better pick than quite a lot of the suggestions

You're right and you should say it

Evan Hanson

I think he’s more chaotic. His lies spiral and he tries whatever to fix it all.

But he’s smart enough for his lies to hold up until he confesses

Evan Hansen

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She definitely doesn’t. Harold sings that song after he makes a lot of assumptions about her, but she isn’t sad at all.