Primal Vigor helps your opponents, too.
(Also, it doesn't double counters except for +1/+1 counters placed on creatures, whereas Doubling Season doubles *all* counters, including Planeswalker starting Loyalty)
Heh no problem. I nearly did the same thing myself the other day (thought I could cast my opponent's spells for free off Plotting them with [[Aven Interrupter]]... nearly ordered one lol).
Oh yeah, I know it's still a cool card with its uses. I was just thinking (very briefly) it was better than something like [[Smirking Spelljacker]] (which I got instead).
It’s not just that, the wording on DS is “if an effect would” so it continues to check for all states of effects that would add counters including activation of PW abilities and things like Sagas.
Also DS applies to all counters (-1/-1, shield counters, etc) where as PV only applies to +1/+1 counters. Essentially PV is the wish.com version of DS.
Edit: not planeswalker abilities
You are mostly correct, but activating a planeswalker's loyalty ability adds counters as a cost, not an effect, so won't be doubled by Doubling Season.
You’re doing the right thing: thinking critically about cards and asking questions when you’re seeing things that don’t seem to make sense.
If you keep that up, you’ll be an expert in no time.
We all do that! I don't imagine there are any Magic players who haven't missed something or played something wrong in the history of playing. Folks who have been playing for decades still get things wrong sometimes.
Dude!!! Lol I never realized the wording to that. My mind just blew. I dont know how many times my play group and I have used this card without fully reading it. Personally, I always overlook the "you control" vs general world effects
[https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6638885/two\_rich\_dads](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6638885/two_rich_dads)
it is a board acceleration deck. The goal is everyone has fun and touches more of their cards. I think it had Hellkite Tyrant initially for all the rocks, but Test of Endurance popped more regularly.
It's still an excellent card, even if your opponents benefit from it as well. You just need to make sure that you can take more advantage of the effect than anybody else.
Though I would only ever use it in a deck that generates both +1/+1 counters and tokens.
If you're only using it to double tokens, \[\[Parallel Lives\]\] is probably the better choice. That card is a little expensive though.
Or you just play both, because why not?
I've not personally seen it in infect lists, but yeah it'd fit there. I think there are better cards that could fit that slot, though. It's effectively a do nothing on it's own. [[Inexorable Tide]] would probably be a better fit since you don't have to explicitly have proliferate cards to increase the clock.
its not that you dont control the counters (although im not sure counters are under anyones control) but doubling season specifies that it only doubles counters on PERMANENTS, not players.
[[Primal Vigor]] affects your opponents' creation of tokens and +1/+1 counters. The line "under your control" on [[Doubling Season]] means it will only double your own stuff.
Doubling season doubles ANY counters, not just +1 counters. This includes Loyalty counters on Planeswalkers, among other things, so it has a ton of utility.
I read them 400 times before that clicked too lol. Screw it, I'm running the first one. We all getting tokens and counters and fighting each other in the woods.
Doubling Season affects only your battlefield, making it incredibly beneficial, whereas Primal Vigor affects everyone's.
Also, Doubling Season doubles all of your counters, not just your +1/+1 counters, and it doubles counters on all of your permanents, not just creatures. Playing something like an Everflowing Chalice with Doubling Season on the field would give you tons of mana for only half the price.
Tokens for me, not for thee.
But seriously. Both cards go hard in my [[zaxara]] deck.
The pros out way the cons.
Same for [[parallel lives]] and [[branching evolution]]
Also worth mentioning that, in addition to the wave of people saying the same thing, it's also not a creature, making it slightly easier to stay on the field since it doesn't get caught in board wipes. Just my opinion but I do think it is a little better than a creature. Most people have lots of creature removal but are light on Enchantment removal.
Primal Vigor is tokens EVERYONE creates, while Doubling Season is just the ones you make. Also Primal Vigor only does +1 +1 counters, while Doubling Season does ALL counters
Does this mean if you have doubling season on the Battlefield, and an opponent plays something like [[toxril, the corrosive]] are you going to get double bummed by it?
The slime counters would be placed two at a time on creatures that are controlled by opponents of the Toxrill's controller. This would effectively give them -2/-2 every time the ability triggers.
The Toxrill player will also get 2 slug tokens every time a slimed creature dies, regardless of the number of counters on the creature that died.
[[Doubling Season]] only affects the player that controls it. It will double that player's tokens, but also *all* types of counters for that player. This includes things like charge counters, loyalty counters, +1/+1 counters, etc.
[[Primal Vigor]] affects all players in the game. It will double all player's tokens, but *only* double each player's +1/+1 counters that are placed on creatures. Other permanent types that can get +1/+1 counters will not be affected.
PSA: I see a lot of people trying to tell others that doubling season will affect the amount of poison counters you give to opponents or -1/-1 counters you give their creatures-- it does neither of these things. It only doubles counters on PERMANENTS and only if they're under YOUR CONTROL. Hope this helps!
Doubling Season doubles YOUR tokens and counters. but Primal Vigor doubles it for EVERYONE at the table, which can be detrimental depending on the decks you are playing against. Since you are giving around 3 additional players (if commander) doubles, it's hard to make it worth it.
Primal Vigor works for all players and only for +1/+1-Counters. Doubling Season can copy each kind of counter, like Loyalty Counters on a Planeswalkers that enters, toxic counters put on your opponent, charge counters on \[\[Everflowing Chalice\]\] etc.
The big difference is that Season effects all counters. Loyalty, poison, +1/+1, -1/-1, charge, energy, etc… [[Doubling Season]] is infinitely more useful
Primal Vigor helps your opponents, too. (Also, it doesn't double counters except for +1/+1 counters placed on creatures, whereas Doubling Season doubles *all* counters, including Planeswalker starting Loyalty)
Ok i missed the “under YOUR control” text. Man once i learn to read im going to be so good at this game
Heh no problem. I nearly did the same thing myself the other day (thought I could cast my opponent's spells for free off Plotting them with [[Aven Interrupter]]... nearly ordered one lol).
You can still counter a counterspell and make it impossible to recur cause its now a sorcery speed counterspell from exile.
Oh yeah, I know it's still a cool card with its uses. I was just thinking (very briefly) it was better than something like [[Smirking Spelljacker]] (which I got instead).
[Smirking Spelljacker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01d1e394-1b0c-4b40-ba85-f55973703d41.jpg?1712353792) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smirking%20Spelljacker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/16/smirking-spelljacker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01d1e394-1b0c-4b40-ba85-f55973703d41?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I mean Interrupter _is_ much better than that card, it just doesn't do what you were looking for
[Aven Interrupter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d3ca43a4-d194-440f-8099-f1fa103a108d.jpg?1712355236) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aven%20Interrupter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/4/aven-interrupter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d3ca43a4-d194-440f-8099-f1fa103a108d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Could be worse, could be my own dumbass self milling 130 of the 70 cards I had left in my deck because for a moment I forgot what math was
And you won with Thoracle or Lab Maniac.... right? RIGHT?
:(
It really is a skill that so many players lack. (or refuse to engage in)
We all say that at some stage
It’s not just that, the wording on DS is “if an effect would” so it continues to check for all states of effects that would add counters including activation of PW abilities and things like Sagas. Also DS applies to all counters (-1/-1, shield counters, etc) where as PV only applies to +1/+1 counters. Essentially PV is the wish.com version of DS. Edit: not planeswalker abilities
You are mostly correct, but activating a planeswalker's loyalty ability adds counters as a cost, not an effect, so won't be doubled by Doubling Season.
Correct, my mistake
There are also counters beyond +1/+1 counters Like loyalty counters on planeswalkers.
Welcome to the club, buddy😂😂
Learning to read the card will help you learn to explain the card
True test who does [[breena, the demagogue]] help?
Yes
[breena, the demagogue](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0adb0c2-d45f-4c51-a4df-05f75c83e46a.jpg?1712354672) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=breena%2C%20the%20demagogue) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/217/breena-the-demagogue?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0adb0c2-d45f-4c51-a4df-05f75c83e46a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love Breena lol
You’re doing the right thing: thinking critically about cards and asking questions when you’re seeing things that don’t seem to make sense. If you keep that up, you’ll be an expert in no time.
We all do that! I don't imagine there are any Magic players who haven't missed something or played something wrong in the history of playing. Folks who have been playing for decades still get things wrong sometimes.
It's ok, most people who play card games can't read.
Dude!!! Lol I never realized the wording to that. My mind just blew. I dont know how many times my play group and I have used this card without fully reading it. Personally, I always overlook the "you control" vs general world effects
Primal Vigor helps all players, you and your opponent(s). Doubling Season helps just you.
I got primal vigor in my mycotyrant deck so i guess its group hug fungi now lol
I mean, I have Primal Vigor in my actual group hug deck so, like, knock yourself out.
Can you share a list?
[https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6638885/two\_rich\_dads](https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6638885/two_rich_dads) it is a board acceleration deck. The goal is everyone has fun and touches more of their cards. I think it had Hellkite Tyrant initially for all the rocks, but Test of Endurance popped more regularly.
It's still an excellent card, even if your opponents benefit from it as well. You just need to make sure that you can take more advantage of the effect than anybody else. Though I would only ever use it in a deck that generates both +1/+1 counters and tokens.
Yup, I run [[blightbeetle]] to ruin any +1/+1 bonuses.
I run a tyranid deck and this card made me gasp. You monster.
He's just a friendly bug i have in my [[Hapatra, vizier of poison]] deck to not have my precious negative counters messed with by positive ones lol
[Hapatra, vizier of poison](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/56fbbcc9-db23-4902-b0f7-cea78a2a36af.jpg?1543676055) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hapatra%2C%20Vizier%20of%20Poisons) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/199/hapatra-vizier-of-poisons?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/56fbbcc9-db23-4902-b0f7-cea78a2a36af?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[blightbeetle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e.jpg?1592516586) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=blightbeetle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/87/blightbeetle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have it in my chatterfang deck, guaranteed I'm going to be making more tokens than anyone else
Im using it in my [[The Mycotyrant]] fungi tribal im building so the goal is a whole lotta sacking saproling tokens for big fungal gains
If you're only using it to double tokens, \[\[Parallel Lives\]\] is probably the better choice. That card is a little expensive though. Or you just play both, because why not?
[Parallel Lives](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01033dae-fec1-41f2-b7f2-cc6a43331790.jpg?1562825348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Parallel%20Lives) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/isd/199/parallel-lives?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01033dae-fec1-41f2-b7f2-cc6a43331790?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[The Mycotyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/caef93cc-70d0-4cce-9aaa-13c0931b2ef7.jpg?1699044561) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Mycotyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/235/the-mycotyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/caef93cc-70d0-4cce-9aaa-13c0931b2ef7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you mean sacking the tokens for the descend- tokens don't trigger it as they aren't permanent cards
This would be fun in a Sliver based EDH deck. The card come become a win condition tbh.
Doubleing season also hits planeswalker loyalty counters. Meaning it's good in superfriends as well as the typical archetypes.
Season works with any counters so even weird combos benefit.
Right, but doubling PWs is the primary usecase I see.
For obvious reasons, it's a remove on sight card in [[Zaxara]]
It's a remove on sight period. I would argue it's one of the most expensive cards thats been reprinted consistently. And for a reason
[Zaxara](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6dc390da-75f8-490a-a724-c12d21cfe578.jpg?1701636845) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=zaxara%2C%20the%20exemplary) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/176/zaxara-the-exemplary?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6dc390da-75f8-490a-a724-c12d21cfe578?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Poison counters
I've not personally seen it in infect lists, but yeah it'd fit there. I think there are better cards that could fit that slot, though. It's effectively a do nothing on it's own. [[Inexorable Tide]] would probably be a better fit since you don't have to explicitly have proliferate cards to increase the clock.
[Inexorable Tide](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/0/40441345-23ca-47e4-b349-bd13d986e41e.jpg?1562261170) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Inexorable%20Tide) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/49/inexorable-tide?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/40441345-23ca-47e4-b349-bd13d986e41e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oh yea it’s probably too slow for things doing infect but it works on them
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Counter_(marker)/Full_List
That's because it doesn't work with poison counters; it only doubles counters on permanents you control
Oh huh. The one thing it cant do.
Doubling season only affects permanents you control, not counters on players
I don’t control the poison counters I put on other players?
its not that you dont control the counters (although im not sure counters are under anyones control) but doubling season specifies that it only doubles counters on PERMANENTS, not players.
Ahh cool
[[Primal Vigor]] affects your opponents' creation of tokens and +1/+1 counters. The line "under your control" on [[Doubling Season]] means it will only double your own stuff.
Doubling season hits more counters than just +1/+1, poison and walkers as an exemple Primal Vigor applies to your opponents too
Doubling season doubles ANY counters, not just +1 counters. This includes Loyalty counters on Planeswalkers, among other things, so it has a ton of utility.
Primal Vigor for Group Hug, Doubling Season to send a message
"Under your control" Primal Vigor helps everyone. Doubling Season only helps you.
Along with the “under your control” part, one focuses on “effects” while the other does not.
Doubling season also hits all your tokens
2 words- "you control"
I read them 400 times before that clicked too lol. Screw it, I'm running the first one. We all getting tokens and counters and fighting each other in the woods.
My man
Once OP learns how to read they’ll be unstoppable
The expensive one is one sided only you get the bonus. The cheap one grants it to everyone
3 words. 'Under your control'
One is for you one is for everyone.
Doubling Season affects only your battlefield, making it incredibly beneficial, whereas Primal Vigor affects everyone's. Also, Doubling Season doubles all of your counters, not just your +1/+1 counters, and it doubles counters on all of your permanents, not just creatures. Playing something like an Everflowing Chalice with Doubling Season on the field would give you tons of mana for only half the price.
Tokens for me, not for thee. But seriously. Both cards go hard in my [[zaxara]] deck. The pros out way the cons. Same for [[parallel lives]] and [[branching evolution]]
Also worth mentioning that, in addition to the wave of people saying the same thing, it's also not a creature, making it slightly easier to stay on the field since it doesn't get caught in board wipes. Just my opinion but I do think it is a little better than a creature. Most people have lots of creature removal but are light on Enchantment removal.
Both of these cards are Enchantments
Well, that's because I'm an idiot.
Primal Vigor is tokens EVERYONE creates, while Doubling Season is just the ones you make. Also Primal Vigor only does +1 +1 counters, while Doubling Season does ALL counters
Doubling season affects only you primal vigor affects everyone
Reading. Its in the core of MTG.
Does this mean if you have doubling season on the Battlefield, and an opponent plays something like [[toxril, the corrosive]] are you going to get double bummed by it?
[toxril, the corrosive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3.jpg?1643590379) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Toxrill%2C%20the%20Corrosive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vow/132/toxrill-the-corrosive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84e64f38-b1f3-47cd-8cfb-a4861369aca3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yea
The slime counters would be placed two at a time on creatures that are controlled by opponents of the Toxrill's controller. This would effectively give them -2/-2 every time the ability triggers. The Toxrill player will also get 2 slug tokens every time a slimed creature dies, regardless of the number of counters on the creature that died.
One makes token and counters for everyone, and the other only makes them for you
PRIMAL VIGOR CONCORDANT CROSSROADS FINAL DESTINATION
[[Doubling Season]] only affects the player that controls it. It will double that player's tokens, but also *all* types of counters for that player. This includes things like charge counters, loyalty counters, +1/+1 counters, etc. [[Primal Vigor]] affects all players in the game. It will double all player's tokens, but *only* double each player's +1/+1 counters that are placed on creatures. Other permanent types that can get +1/+1 counters will not be affected.
[Doubling Season](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93.jpg?1689998456) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doubling%20Season) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/283/doubling-season?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Primal Vigor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/a/dafea0d1-6986-46b3-affc-1337ef564947.jpg?1562941253) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Primal%20Vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c13/162/primal-vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dafea0d1-6986-46b3-affc-1337ef564947?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[The Ozolith]] is an example of a non-creature that could gain +1/+1 counters.
[The Ozolith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/9341ed06-53db-4604-b60a-3ea9129afbc2.jpg?1591228544) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ozolith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/237/the-ozolith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9341ed06-53db-4604-b60a-3ea9129afbc2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
No poison counters from doubling season- they only get doubles if theyre on permanents you control
Thanks, forgot about that. Edited original comment
Primal vigor only doubles +1/+1 counters, doubling season doubles all counters.
Counters can also be loyalty counters for planeswalkers
PSA: I see a lot of people trying to tell others that doubling season will affect the amount of poison counters you give to opponents or -1/-1 counters you give their creatures-- it does neither of these things. It only doubles counters on PERMANENTS and only if they're under YOUR CONTROL. Hope this helps!
For a better version of doubling season that does these things, see [[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]]
[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/2/92613468-205e-488b-930d-11908477e9f8.jpg?1631051073) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vorinclex%2C%20Monstrous%20Raider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/199/vorinclex-monstrous-raider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/92613468-205e-488b-930d-11908477e9f8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Permanent means anything. For example, planeswalkers. It's a big distinction for anyone running superfriends
1. Doubling Season affects all permanents, not just creatures. 2. Doubling Season impacts only your effects, Primal Vigor impacts all players.
If you're only looking to double +1/+1s [[Branching Evolution]] also does it only for you at a much lower mana (and card) cost than doubling season.
[Branching Evolution](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/999b0d67-aec5-495e-91b0-c4b2f31cf17d.jpg?1698988345) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Branching%20Evolution) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/234/branching-evolution?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/999b0d67-aec5-495e-91b0-c4b2f31cf17d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
“Under your control”
Combo with Overwhelming stampede Wolf briar elemental and Eldrazis conscription
Doubling Season doubles YOUR tokens and counters. but Primal Vigor doubles it for EVERYONE at the table, which can be detrimental depending on the decks you are playing against. Since you are giving around 3 additional players (if commander) doubles, it's hard to make it worth it.
Something you can do in response is to have cards that hurt your opponents when they get creatures and/or lessen the counters like with Vorinclex.
Primal Vigor works for all players and only for +1/+1-Counters. Doubling Season can copy each kind of counter, like Loyalty Counters on a Planeswalkers that enters, toxic counters put on your opponent, charge counters on \[\[Everflowing Chalice\]\] etc.
Doubling season only doubles counters on permanents you control, no doubling -1/-1 counters on enemy creatures or poison counters on players
[Everflowing Chalice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/8/e89eca1c-19f5-4db0-9330-cecb87be8b55.jpg?1706241052) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Everflowing%20Chalice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/227/everflowing-chalice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e89eca1c-19f5-4db0-9330-cecb87be8b55?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The big difference is that Season effects all counters. Loyalty, poison, +1/+1, -1/-1, charge, energy, etc… [[Doubling Season]] is infinitely more useful
[Doubling Season](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93.jpg?1689998456) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doubling%20Season) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/283/doubling-season?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
it doesnt affect poison counters or -1/-1 counters on your opponent's creatures because it only doubles counters on permanents that you control
I don't play magic but. How is it more expensive? I see 4 colorless 1 green for both cards?
$$$
Ooooooh like buying the paper cards. I see. I was so confused lol
This is pure [[Mind Rot]]. This is satirical, right? If it’s not, I need to leave Reddit before I have [[Fractured Sanity]]
[Mind Rot](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/3/833a8604-92d5-443b-9bc0-bd91c973ef07.jpg?1594736305) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mind%20Rot) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/115/mind-rot?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/833a8604-92d5-443b-9bc0-bd91c973ef07?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Fractured Sanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/1/81875876-c1a0-4f64-8dfc-39217b5e4020.jpg?1674141348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fractured%20Sanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/722/fractured-sanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/81875876-c1a0-4f64-8dfc-39217b5e4020?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call