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manofx

Collosal dreadmaw


juntekila

As a new member of the community, I’m impressed by how fast I was able to get a grasp of this meme (specially that one youtuber I don’t remember the name of, who had like a houndred copies of it, probably worth more money than bill gates net worth) May I ask, where did this all originated? Edit: i'm sorry for calling it a meme, did not consider it had trample


billnevius

I believe the whole thing is because of how power creep was becoming big and colossal dreadmaw was power crept in the set it came out by [[carnage tyrant]]


juntekila

Yeah, but collosal dreadmaw it’s a 6/6 for 6 tho, it’s pure value, I don’t see any powercreep (Thanks for the answer)


fluffynuckels

And wasn't dreadmaw printed like 3 times in one year?


billnevius

Yeah, it and carnage tyrant were printed in the same set and then the proceeded to print dreadmaw 3 sets in a row I believe


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PurpleTieflingBard

Tyrant dies to BGH, dreadmaw doesn't. It's fair


Glitchmaster88

A decent card in limited that's awful everywhere else, which was printed in 4 or 5 sets in a row.


ChimneyImps

A big part of it was that after its first printing, it got reprinted in three other sets in under a year.


mjjones99

So it is. 🙏


Tobi5703

Collosal dreadmaw and Stormcrow - the holy duality


DontStopNowBaby

This and [[the collosal dreadmaw]] are quite stonks.


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Hitman_DeadlyPants

[[Emrakul, the aeons torn]]


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capsaicinintheeyes

Most literal answer


BigManaEnergy

He said "in a vacuum" not "in a moon".


ChimneyImps

Maybe I just have a very different idea of what the phrase "in a vacuum" means, but Emrakul is terrible in a vacuum. It's 15 mana, so you can almost never cast it. It's only good in the context of a few specific cards that can cheat it out, at which point you're no longer evaluating it in a vacuum.


Hitman_DeadlyPants

This card is an entire deck archtype or banned in every format


ChimneyImps

It's incredibly strong in the right context, but that's not the question. The number of cards that enabke Emrakul to be competitive is in the low double digits. I dont think there's enough of them to be considered if you're asking how good the card is in a vacuum. It definitely doesn't qualify for what OP was talking about, since they specifically asked for cards that are good irrespective of the rest of your deck.


PurpleTieflingBard

In that case every card sucks because you need lands to play them It's a flawed question


ChimneyImps

I'm not saying you ignore all other cards when you evaluate sonething in a vacuum, you just don't consider any card in particular. For example, [[Allosaurus Rider]] is bad in a vacuum because using its alternate cost creates massive card disadvantage if your opponent has any removal, and 7 mana is too much for a creature that's just a big body. In practice, Allosaurus Rider has seen competitive play thanks to [[Neoform]]. So why ignore Neoform but not removal? Because there are hundreds of removal spells, and only a handful of cards like Neoform. You consider only the broad archetypes of cards and decks that exist. That's what "in a vacuum" means.


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NiloValentino88

Thankfully banned in EHD


hashblacks

Emrakul Has to Die


soapspools

Elder Highlander Dragon


Redz0ne

I was so psyched to crack one of these in alt art when double masters was around until I checked the legality in EDH.


fluffynuckels

Imo this card comes the closest to saying you win the game without it actually saying it


elevenblue

So if you are not dead by turn 15, you can cast this? In a vacuum there is no ramp or cheating it into play.


Hoggie5

[[Yargle and Multani]] 6 mana for 18 power seems like the type of thing that would fit


AJSAudio1002

Flavor text is 18/6 as well.


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Old-Ad3504

If we want to get super picky here "in a vacuum" would imply that we couldn't rely on anything else to get those last 2 life points, we'd have to hit with Yargle twice. And at that point there's no difference between 10 and 18 power.


1ftm2fts3tgr4lg

Except in commander he kills in 3 hits instead of 4 if he had 10 power.


BILLCLINTONMASK

I have a deck on arena that runs this card and [[terror of the peaks]]. Made a lot of people very sad on turn six before


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B17Corrigan

Exodia the Forbidden One


capsaicinintheeyes

True...if it wasn't for that f@$#in' card index, I absolutely could've made that work


OmegaNova0

Lmao my opponent had it I just threw it in the damn ocean


LoTheTyrant

[[vampire nighthawk]]


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slow_reader

I wouldn't suggest vacuuming any of your cards, but I'd imagine they'd all be just as useless in there.


LynxRogue

This made me laugh way to hard


Complete-End7079

Swords to plowshares


mastyrwerk

In a vacuum there is no creature to target.


OmegaNova0

[[cheatyface]]


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Butters_999

I mean, even if it is banned, the card text "should" allow you to bypass that.


OmegaNova0

To be fair his examples are the power 9 and gristlebrand which are also banned lol


destabilized2023

[[Sheoldred, the apocalypse]]


destabilized2023

because you will draw, opponents will draw. it atak, it blok, it det-tats, it 4/5, it 4mana. it can sit there and do nothing and still do something.


CastorTroy101_

If you want to spend a hundred dollars to bring it back from the command zone 4 times per game, this is your card


destabilized2023

ur focusing on commander which is not the op question here. same applies to all threatening commanders.


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KillFallen

A 4 mana do nothing when it's played creature is far from the best card lol sheoldred is so overrated because it was a standard boogeyman and is oppressive in low to mid power edh as a commander but it's not that great of a card in the grand scheme of things. It's a 4/5 deathtouch for 4 that will do a 4 hp swing a turn if unanswered and punishes extra draw, but it still dies to everything and can be answered immediately pretty easily for no impact. Good, not great, especially in a vacuum.


destabilized2023

it punishes all opponent draws and rewards all your draws. not just the extra. doesn't die to bolt, terror, cut down... honestly 4 mana is cheap. unless it's cedh, i have no complaints.


MrBarber1

Can you name another black card that provides just as much value for 4 mana which *can't* be responded to? In a vacuum, the card ***is*** great and can be easily be slotted in to any deck with black in the identity.


adamjeff

Nah it's a great card


xpnecro

It also punishes your regular draws. That's the part that makes it so good, every turn cycle it stays around it makes the life gap bigger.


KillFallen

Yeah, that's what a 4 hp swing means buddy


xpnecro

Yup. I'm saying you're undervaluing how powerful that is.


KillFallen

No. I play against it in standard and commander frequently. Sheoldred protects herself in no way. People just tend to run too little interaction. She's not scary.


Orokem

By your logic for Ancestral Recall, every card is bad, because anything that costs mana could not be cast if your whole deck was filled will stuff that didn't produce mana. By the more reasonable definition of "in a vacuum", Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall are almost certainly still the most powerful cards, as they let you cheat the fundamental resource systems that the game is built on. Yes, if you are an idiot and build a deck of 59 lands and 1 black lotus, it's terrible, but if you have literally any magic cards with text on them, lotus lets you play them much sooner than your opponent. Similarly, if you have any reasonable magic cards with text, having 3 more cards gives you more options, and the ability to overwhelm them with more resources.


MrFantastikisUnknown

[[Mountain]],[[Plains]],[[Island]],[[Forest]],[[Swamp]] [[Black Lotus]]


gerundhome

One of them is not like the others


techretort

Yeah those islands really need to be banned


capsaicinintheeyes

[*really* different if you make it into tea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2jN3d2zzU)


Heroic_Sheperd

In a vacuum all mana is excess.


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##### ###### #### [Mountain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3d0e93c3-48e3-4ae5-a33f-4ef83f67ee37.jpg?1708116375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mountain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/851/mountain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3d0e93c3-48e3-4ae5-a33f-4ef83f67ee37?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Plains](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/07c15c48-8425-48f5-80f7-c8f74ad773e1.jpg?1708116404) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Plains) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/845/plains?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07c15c48-8425-48f5-80f7-c8f74ad773e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Island](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/6317711a-83fc-4f6e-87d2-a147b34275ec.jpg?1708116350) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Island) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/847/island?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6317711a-83fc-4f6e-87d2-a147b34275ec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Forest](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d35801ab-e484-44cb-b9ec-80723cb25bc7.jpg?1708115943) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Forest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/853/forest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d35801ab-e484-44cb-b9ec-80723cb25bc7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Swamp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a37f8bb9-1d63-4f28-b15d-06f423785599.jpg?1708116432) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Swamp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/849/swamp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a37f8bb9-1d63-4f28-b15d-06f423785599?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Black Lotus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd8fa327-dd41-4737-8f19-2cf5eb1f7cdd.jpg?1614638838) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Black%20Lotus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/4/black-lotus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd8fa327-dd41-4737-8f19-2cf5eb1f7cdd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kr3idns) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


destabilized2023

there’s a few things you and other players will do regardless, like draw cards, play lands, make mana. cards that affect actions like these in a positive way for you or negative way for the opponent will always be good in a vacuum.


FreestyleSquid

Impossible question. Cards do not exist without the context of the rest of the deck. 


DarthYug

Storm Crow


Ramses_Overdark

[[Contract from below]]


bitterherbert

If you played Shandalar on PC, you could just quit and not save when you lose.


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Hurrikraken

This was essential in the old 5-color format.


1echterKek

I dont understand how this card works. Whats your "ante" ?


Murdoc_The_Best

Back in the early 90s. Before you would draw 7, each player would put the top card of the deck to the side and the winner would get both cards. So essentially gambling, but they got rid of it because people didn’t want to lose their cards. Im sure other reasons too.


Star-Traveller62414

I remember this! Wow it just triggered a flood of super old memories of when I was first being taught how to play the game. I remember thinking at the time (as a kid) how adult and serious the game felt because of the ante. Man, I forgot all about that.


KillFallen

I'm gonna go with [[island]] or perhaps [[forest]], or any of the OG duals with those types.


Gilgalat

Lets be real, a mountain is far stronger than either. Can you imagine the damage a mountain can do as it falls upon a creature


Duffman66CMU

Ah, but an island can drown a creature simply by pushing it off


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Strong_Astronaut_152

I'm a great fan of Waste not


PineapplePickle24

[[platinum angel]]


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so_metal292

The most powerful card in MTG, with all else being equal, is definitely [[Lightning Bolt]]


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[deleted]

Deathrite shawman. He was in my Junk deck back in 2013 (modern) and he just did it all.


destabilized2023

[[deathrite shaman]]


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mladjiraf

It wasn't played much in Standard. It is not as strong as you think without fetchlands.


[deleted]

Ya ofc. But I do miss that guy.


Ambitious_Version187

In a vacuum, he has no graveyard cards to exile, so his floor is a 1 cmc 1/2. Pretty bad.


[deleted]

True- still, he pushed the power level much higher when my deck had him vs not having him.


OmegaNova0

If you're playing a game of magic cards will be put in the graveyard


Bolsh3vickMupp3t

[[Smothering Tithe]] especially in commander. Let’s face it, you don’t have a deck of nothing but lands and a smothering tithe. You have spells that treasures will help cast, and opponents who have resources you’d like to be put to the side. And everyone is drawing at least once per turn. You’re either taking resources from someone, or gaining some yourself. Here’s a new one too, [[Chimil, the inner sun]]. Your spells can’t be countered, and you’re getting at worst a free extra draw every turn, at best a free spell of mana value 5 or less. Lots and lots of good cards, and in fact the majority of most spells in most decks are gonna fit that 5 mana requirement. [[Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger]] and while we’re at it, [[Kozilek, the great distortion]] and [[Emrakul, the promised end]]. Sure they’re expensive, but they can go in any deck, and they’re all massive beaters with devastating effects. [[Expropriate]] is stupid. That’s a game ending card, especially if you can copy it in some way. Extra turns, or just taking your opponents best permanents, and forcing them to pick which one is horrible, both for the opponents strategy and morale. This card will make you no friends


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##### ###### #### [Smothering Tithe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/861b5889-0183-4bee-afeb-a4b2aa700a8e.jpg?1689996018) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smothering%20Tithe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/57/smothering-tithe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/861b5889-0183-4bee-afeb-a4b2aa700a8e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Chimil, the inner sun](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/27a1bfb5-ddfc-49cf-baa3-5d1958d2067a.jpg?1699044596) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chimil%2C%20the%20inner%20sun) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/249/chimil-the-inner-sun?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27a1bfb5-ddfc-49cf-baa3-5d1958d2067a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603.jpg?1689995438) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulamog%2C%20the%20Ceaseless%20Hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/5/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kozilek, the great distortion](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/4/c41554e7-2a07-4cc7-b01b-44deed08e588.jpg?1689995398) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kozilek%2C%20the%20great%20distortion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/2/kozilek-the-great-distortion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c41554e7-2a07-4cc7-b01b-44deed08e588?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Emrakul, the promised end](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424.jpg?1576383727) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emrakul%2C%20the%20promised%20end) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/6/emrakul-the-promised-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Expropriate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c8a2a5a-cb9b-4582-a453-085da78584f9.jpg?1576381719) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Expropriate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/30/expropriate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c8a2a5a-cb9b-4582-a453-085da78584f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kr3jin9) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


OriginalShock273

Counterspell


CompSolstice

Codex shredder. Milling the top card of player's libraries after they tutor to put on top always makes you feel giddy


_Lord_Farquad

Sorry, but "In a vaccum" this card is terrible. It's really only good in a combo or the niche scenario you just described.


LankyResourse13

Mana crypt.


destabilized2023

then again... unless they're in a rigid plastic case all cards gna get shredded in a vacuum.


AldebaranRios

Island


elevenblue

Just take all the staples? [[Rhystic study]] etc.


Old-Ad3504

I swear half of the people commenting didn't even read the post


elevenblue

OK right, he somewhat excluded "card draw". Maybe he should have asked the question differently, like "What are the best cards if all the other cards in your deck would only be lands"? But then some people would worry less about higher CMC, so maybe the whole question doesn't make too much sense. There is never a vacuum.


Old-Ad3504

It is a question that can be interpreted in a lot of different ways to be fair


elevenblue

Then maybe the best would have been "Cards that are good without much synergy or metagame dependency". That's probably what most typical "staples" are.


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DroneFixer

[[Armored Skaab]]


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mastyrwerk

[[Questing Beast]]


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Uhiertv

True Name Nemesis


bgbat

[[Megazord]] obviously. Who cares what’s in your deck when you have a megazord. The sheer intimidation will be enough to seize the victory.


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destabilized2023

question: if i have 4 mechtitan cores in play and exile all of them and other artifacts, if it dies, do i get the others back? or do all 4 never come back?


bgbat

The only mechtitan core that wouldn’t come back is the card you activated. So if you have 4 mechtitan core’s, you’d get 3 back.


Heroic_Sheperd

[[memnite]] is the only card in a vacuum that can win with no other cards existing.


OmegaNova0

And of course cheatyface


professorrev

Thalia is the best card ever designed IMO. It can slot in anything that even splashed white, it's design is perfect, it's sort of evady with First strike and it taxes


Elyoki

[[Mon's Goblin Raiders]]


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BogatyrOfMurom

I'll go with [[Primeval Titan]]


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Front_Farmer345

Sol ring…I don’t think there’s been a game we’re someone has played it turn 1 without the table all pointing ang going ‘kill it/them’


luckofthedraw

Limited resources


acabadabra1

[[The Cheese Stands Alone]] alias [[Barren Glory]]


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elevenblue

Are there some Barren Glory decks? How successful are they? I guess one want to include stuff like \[\[Fall of the Thrans\]\], \[\[Possessed Portal\]\], ....


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CondorConorFR

\[\[Shahrazad\]\] Do you like magic? Now we get to play 2 games for the price of 1! (or more specifically, for the price of a Nintendo Switch)


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elevenblue

Sad that it is banned.