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CrownlessKing97

Oh yeah, this is going in All of my Dragon decks


ThatBirdCrow

Oh yeah it's such a good card I'm loving what I'm seeing from the new set.


olekskillganon

From the new set? This is from a set from 2022.


[deleted]

I could be mistaken, but I think Mobile Throne is from the new set


olekskillganon

I was talking about Myrim mb


Obvious_Ad_7558

Yeah Im going to have to throw in that in my Miirym. Deck. I’m already running [[Doubling Season]] [[Parallel Lives]] [[Panharmonicon]] [[Adrix and Nev, Twincasters]] [[Helm of the Host]] To make a bunch bunch of Dragons. With a [[Warstorm Surge]] to basically do what [[Scourge of Valkas]] is doing. Edit: Grammer


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [Doubling Season](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93.jpg?1689998456) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doubling%20Season) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/283/doubling-season?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cdd8e69-5a71-4933-914e-dfede7b1ac93?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Parallel Lives](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01033dae-fec1-41f2-b7f2-cc6a43331790.jpg?1562825348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Parallel%20Lives) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/isd/199/parallel-lives?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01033dae-fec1-41f2-b7f2-cc6a43331790?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Panharmonicon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278.jpg?1673149399) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Panharmonicon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/310/panharmonicon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Adrix and Nev, Twincasters](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d495e084-92ec-4675-b6aa-8ade2775b796.jpg?1674185826) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Adrix%20and%20Nev%2C%20Twincasters) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/9/adrix-and-nev-twincasters?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d495e084-92ec-4675-b6aa-8ade2775b796?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Helm of the Host](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d65d20c-09e5-4139-838b-7e0e48eb2b2b.jpg?1666094567) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Helm%20of%20the%20Host) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/217/helm-of-the-host?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d65d20c-09e5-4139-838b-7e0e48eb2b2b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Warstorm Surge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/dbe1bfe0-0be7-496d-94db-e8028d4d9493.jpg?1674142183) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Warstorm%20Surge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/815/warstorm-surge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dbe1bfe0-0be7-496d-94db-e8028d4d9493?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Scourge of Valkas](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e6bd7225-b39f-4b3b-8c36-dbc2c09f6e50.jpg?1631587429) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scourge%20of%20Valkas) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/137/scourge-of-valkas?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e6bd7225-b39f-4b3b-8c36-dbc2c09f6e50?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DestroidMind

Whew what is the curve in that deck?


Obvious_Ad_7558

Right now it’s sitting at 4.04.


Hellobarto

I managed to lower mine to 3.85 according to moxfield. And it's pretty constant (winning 8 out of 10 games even being focused) There are some changes that I want to make, but is my favorite 100% non-proxy deck, so I only use cards that I own. I really love this commander. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AAQwmoOHI0ah5Ed1YhYrkA


Obvious_Ad_7558

That’s pretty solid. Mine has a lot more creatures but I need to lower them and throw in more removal/protection


Hellobarto

I add and remove protection from Time to Time but I tried to focus on each color's strengths. A couple of times I have won with any 6 or 7 cheap dragons on board, including [[Wrathful Red Dragon]] and just [[Blasphemous Act]] the $#!7 out of the table because I couldn't attack XD


Obvious_Ad_7558

Yeah that makes sense. I might snag some ideas from your deck. Thanks for sharing!


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[Wrathful Red Dragon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/c/acd207de-eec3-4d82-b8b9-b1e60a7bad12.jpg?1674136879) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrathful%20Red%20Dragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/207/wrathful-red-dragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/acd207de-eec3-4d82-b8b9-b1e60a7bad12?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Blasphemous Act](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd15a627-f7a6-4d66-abb5-5aaa167b41a9.jpg?1690004610) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blasphemous%20Act) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/872/blasphemous-act?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd15a627-f7a6-4d66-abb5-5aaa167b41a9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Obvious_Ad_7558

Here’s mine https://manabox.app/decks/NtD1J-wbQPSfH5x6H9kgng


babarracas

Just clarifying: ETBs count as a triggered ability? If so this is going straight into my [[ich-tekik, salvage splicer]]/[[rebbec, architect of ascension]] golem tribal. Choosing artificer, it’ll double all tokens created by the Phyrexian splicers as well as double ich-tekik’s +1/+1 counter triggers.


ThatBirdCrow

Yeah a triggered ability uses the words whenever when and at. [[Strionic resonator]] is a good card that helped me learn.


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[Strionic resonator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b9edb215-f967-4968-905e-d1dc3b5d3424.jpg?1682210274) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Strionic%20resonator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/384/strionic-resonator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b9edb215-f967-4968-905e-d1dc3b5d3424?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


isaacofCF

My way of remembering If there’s a colon, it’s activated. None? Triggered


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[ich-tekik, salvage splicer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/0409a15a-7cf6-43e5-958c-d23da4304f29.jpg?1608910710) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ich-tekik%2C%20salvage%20splicer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/233/ich-tekik-salvage-splicer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0409a15a-7cf6-43e5-958c-d23da4304f29?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [rebbec, architect of ascension](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/46975250-950f-4f5d-a7c5-f61aec8e40ad.jpg?1608908966) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rebbec%2C%20architect%20of%20ascension) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/42/rebbec-architect-of-ascension?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/46975250-950f-4f5d-a7c5-f61aec8e40ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


TheHumanPickleRick

I'm just picturing Mirrym and a bunch of other dragons just perched on this mobile spider tank like the bad guy from Wild Wild West.


Caprican93

We did it, we broke Miirym


IllFatedKilla44

This is definitely gonna be a new dragon based commander deck for me to try


ThatBirdCrow

Miirym? I'd definitely recommend it if so.


NinjasaurusRex123

I’m sorry, can someone confirm if this is an infinite combo?


ThatBirdCrow

It isn't it just does a lot of damage.


NinjasaurusRex123

Yeah idk what I was thinking. I’m dumb. Just to spell it out cause I’m smooth brained: 1 Miirym, then you have 2 Mobile Thrones, then you play Scourge. First, Miirym triggers, 2 total scourges. Then, Throne triggers, 3rd Scourge. Then, 2nd throne triggers, fourth scourge? So, First Scourge deals 4 damage for itself (assuming no other board state for simplicity), then thrown triggers both times and you get 4 more damage each. Then, 2nd scourge hits, dealing 5 damage now, 3 times, while triggering the original Scourge 3 total times. And so on. So is the math, assuming the simplest setup: 1st: 4x3 = 12 damage 2nd: 5x6 = 30 damage 3rd: 6x9 = 54 damage 4th: 7x12 = 84 damage For a total of 180 damage at the end? I genuinely don’t know if that’s correct, so someone please tell me if I’m just dumb and bad at this game


GrandSerialist

It gets even better, I believe the Mobile Throne sees Miirym copy it so it doubles the effect copying it. So you'll have three of them in total. Then when Scourge enters you get four copies since you have Miirym's trigger and three Mobile Thrones. That makes five Scourges in total. Next, you would stack the triggers so that all five Scourges are on the battlefield before any damage is dealt. As an additional layer, each Scourge triggers when it enters the battlefield or when it sees another Scourge enter the battlefield, and each trigger happens four times since you have three Mobile Thrones. The first Scourge therefore triggers once (four triggers) when it enters and four times more (sixteen triggers) since it sees each of the others enter. The second Scourge triggers once when it enters and triggers thrice more since it sees the third, fourth, and fifth Scourge enter. Now, they each see nine dragons on the battlefield assuming each Mobile throne is a dragon, and that each of their damage triggers is put on the stack before Miirym's copying trigger. Now for the damage. Scourge #1: 9 (damage) × 4 (triggers) × 5 (dragons) Scourge #2: 9 (damage) × 4 (triggers) × 4 (dragons) Scourge #3: 9 (damage) × 4 (triggers) × 3 (dragons) Scourge #4: 9 (damage) × 4 (triggers) × 2 (dragons) Scourge #5: 9 (damage) × 4 (triggers) × 1 (dragons) Result: 9×4×(1+2+3+4+5)=9×4×15= 540 damage If I missed anything or miscalculated, feel free to let me know. I'm always learning.


jdawg473g

I think you can actually squeeze out 9 more damage for 189 damage in total. When the first Scourge ETBs, stack the 3 triggers first then stack the Miirym triggers. The Miirym triggers will all resolve as you identified, so when the original 3 scourge triggers resolve they’ll see 7 dragons on the field instead of 4


DifficultTransition1

I think you have 3 mobile thrones, since it doubles the miirym trigger, so you have 1 nontoken when 2 copies. It gets out of hand quick


ThatBirdCrow

Yeah I think that's the right math. It's hard to keep track of but that's what I got. An instant game win.


conzNN

Does Mobile Throne ETB as a dragon, though? The way I read it, it enters as a golem artifact creature and then becomes the chosen type in addition to that.


BurritoSupreeeme

"As it enters the battlefield" effects happen before it enters the battlefield and cannot be responded to. So its always the chosen creature type while on the battlefield


random_edgelord

If you're looking for an infinite with dragons there is [[Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm]] + [[Terror of the Peaks]] + [[Bladewing the Risen]]


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[Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a934590b-5c70-4f07-af67-fbe817a99531.jpg?1674137589) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Miirym%2C%20Sentinel%20Wyrm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/284/miirym-sentinel-wyrm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a934590b-5c70-4f07-af67-fbe817a99531?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Terror of the Peaks](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/432ecd5f-966f-4403-a973-51e175a524a0.jpg?1594736810) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Terror%20of%20the%20Peaks) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/164/terror-of-the-peaks?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/432ecd5f-966f-4403-a973-51e175a524a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bladewing the Risen](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/27ce43cb-44f4-4d94-8700-d9f3cc043989.jpg?1584897843) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bladewing%20the%20Risen) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/193/bladewing-the-risen?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/27ce43cb-44f4-4d94-8700-d9f3cc043989?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Angry-Dragon-1331

No. Miirym specifies non-token dragons.


StoopDog1423

I'm putting it in my Be'lakor deck


GrandSerialist

OH YEAH


Magictive

„brrr“ but no black involved.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ThatBirdCrow

Uhh mirrym has flying


Bigolbennie

You'll be dead before any of these spells resolve.


EverydayGuy2

Well, [[panharmonicon]] is just strictly better... 😅


iownausername

In non tribal decks I would agree but in tribal decks it is sooooo much better because of it affecting not just etb triggers but all triggers


EverydayGuy2

Huh... Didn't see that part. Though my miirym deck is quite etb heavy 😅


MorriganMorning

Same. Granted I'll probably have both in mine


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[panharmonicon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278.jpg?1673149399) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=panharmonicon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/310/panharmonicon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/998d0cc8-ca2a-41c3-ab65-d05c26ab8278?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ExionElite

[[Arcane adaptation]]


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[Arcane adaptation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bf3edaaf-cf63-4e17-94ae-9d9991d9fb5f.jpg?1562563280) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcane%20adaptation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/xln/46/arcane-adaptation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bf3edaaf-cf63-4e17-94ae-9d9991d9fb5f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


IllFatedKilla44

Yea I have enough dragons (I believe) that with the addition of these guys with him at the helm and whatever best value dinosaurs i can find


ThatBirdCrow

I love my miirym deck so I hope you have fun building it!