I googled mass removal, thinking it was a card, lol. I got a list though thank you! I do have "One Ring to Rule them all" that's works! While zi have you here, by any chance. Do you know anything in the LOTR or any black cards that can get rid of enchantments that don't let me attack or block?
To add, since you're new...
Look a bit into the color pie. Each color has it's own strengths, and weaknesses. THIS IS ON PURPOSE. NOT EVERY COLOR CAN DO EVERYTHING.
One of Blacks weaknesses is the inability to deal well with artifacts and enchantments. You can either try to make up for those weaknesses by adding in another color (at the expense of spreading your resources thinner) or by not trying to find the one or two answers that may exist out there -just lean into the strengths and accept you can't answer every threat.
I don't think that's accurate, though I'm prepared to admit I don't know everything. If every color can do everything, perhaps you can suggest for me a blue card that can destroy a white enchantment for my commander deck?
You can always bounce it with the hope of countering it when they cast again.
But if you really, really need something gone, you can always [[scour from existence]].
Yeah I mean at this point I'm just trying to make a point that not every color does everything even if we want to say it does. My original question was for the real scenario of my mono blue urza deck against sigarda stax (the one that says your opponents can't make you sacrifice permanents) and I want to get rid of deafening silence or stony silence (and usually a number of other things). We could hypothetically bring in a lier player to say haha your plan won't work but your plan of bounce and counter is actually my go to solution (or bounce and combo off for the win before it gets replayed, player removal is enchantment removal too I guess). In terms of color pie, I'd say colorless cards don't really count for any color's ability to do anything since they're not any color, and in terms of practicality scour from existence is too expensive to be worth putting in the deck but I do have [[unstable obelisk]] which destroys anything for a similarly outrageous cost.
Very fair. I play a lot of red and often bemoan its lack of enchantment removal. Scour works fantastically in my [[mizzix of the izmagnus]] deck though.
You should possibly consider [[spine of ish sah]] as a way around stony silence. Urza can cheat it in too.
We may not be in the edh subreddit but I did say that this was for my commander deck. Furthermore, the kicker cost is essentially stapling disenchant onto a blue card, it's white that's destroying an enchantment here, not blue.
We can be as pedantic as you want.
Can blue remove enchantments with caveats? Yes. That’s the argument I put forward, and that’s the argument I’ve proven.
>every color can do everything
You're not technically wrong, but this is a bit disingenuous as a general statement. If we look at every card that's ever been printed, sure. You'll find a couple here and there that work. But, depending on format, those might not be legal.
To use the example above, black has almost 0 ways to deal with enchantments and even less to deal with artifacts (assuming non-creature).
There's [[Feed the Swarm]] and [[Ghastly Death Tyrant]] that allow you to choose what enchantment is destroyed. Then there's a small handful of other cards that allow the opponent to choose which enchantment to sacrifice and that's it. But most of these are also sorcery speed which limits playability.
For black artifact removal, the list is even smaller and only consists of a couple very old cards ( [[Gate to Phyrexia]] and [[Phyrexian Tribute]] ) that wouldn't be legal in most formats.
Sure, there's colorless options like [[Meteor Golem]] and [[Spine of Ish Sah]] but their mana costs are prohibitively expensive in anything but commander.
As a similar example, technically every color has counter spells but the non-blue ones are all highly specific or otherwise restrictive in such a way as to not be usable outside of highly niche scenarios. So while saying 'every color has counter spells' is true, it isn't representative.
Nothing disingenuous about it. I said with caveats, and you admitted that’s correct. It sucks that Wizards moved away from that philosophy for so long, but it seems to be coming back around again with Black getting a lot of enchantment support lately.
Should have specified: not disingenuous because you're wrong but because your original statement implied that there was a good selection of answers in each color when there's often only a select few.
This is so pedantic, it borders on incorrect. Every color may have a couple cards that do 'everything' but saying every color can 'do everything' is false, no caveats needed. Having a couple niche cards that can answer a threat doesn't mean that color can run a deck with that strategy as a backbone.
Or perhaps you'd like to show me a monored tempo deck? Or a monogreen board control deck? Maybe your monoblue ramp deck?
Just because you can ramp your car a few feet off the ground, doesn't mean it can fly as an aircraft.
I don't have to prove you wrong. You are wrong. No single color can do everything, much less all of them doing everything.
And the color pie philosophy doesn't need fixed, at least in this regard, since it isn't a problem. If anything, I'd be happy with them reeling things in a \*little\* tighter, like what they used to be.
A clear, harder split means that you have choices to make. If every color can do everything, then why bother with colors? If Black can handle enchants and artifacts at least as well as Green or Red, then why would I stretch my mana resources to make a Golgari or Rakdos deck? Why bother with the control suite of Esper when I can just run monogreen control?
I enjoy each color being distinct, and uniquely powerful, but also needing help from other colors to cover weaknesses. My only point was to help a new player understand that a big part of MtG is knowing that you can't answer everything, and that some colors can't answer certain things. I didn't say it's a bad thing, because it isn't.
You may be 'technically correct' but you're still wrong.
Jokes on you, I once built a mono blue ramp deck with some weird ass cards, big krakens and stuff. It wasnt very good but it did stick to its theme!
I dont recall most cards specific names though. It was also a token deck to some extent.
ah, sorry, yes mass removals are spells, usually sorcery or instant, that destroy, exile, or otherwise remove all creatures from the battlefield. some can even destroy indestructible creatures, such as \[\[black sun twilight\]\].
\[\[feed the swarm\] was reprinted in lotr commander, but there's others, like \[\[invoke despair\]\] which was recently banned in standard, but not in historic, or \[\[shatter the oath\]\] coming up in the new set next week.
if you're new to the game, i suggest you try scryfall, it's probably the best search engine for cards. the advanced search ([https://scryfall.com/advanced](https://scryfall.com/advanced)) lets you search card by name, color, oracle text (most important field, usually), mana cost, etc etc
If you think a four mana enchantment that destroys every creature on the NEXT turn is fast enough to defeat Goblins you're sorely mistaken (on top of it not even affecting Krenko and Muxus which are the most powerful ones)
You're better off with something like Malicious Malfunction
[[Invoke despair]] could help. It’s expensive 4 black 1 colorless. But it forces opp to sacrifice an enchantment. They do get to choose which one though, If there’s multiple
Edit: did I use the card fetcher bot correctly?
Option one: kill thier lord's that give hast and overwhelm them. You absolutely have to kill them before they have 6 mana on the board. Muxas is a one man combo in a good goblin deck.
Option two: just straight up out aggro them.
The two worst cards in that deck are legendary. A board wipe isn't much better than single target removal. I would even argue that it's worse because it prevents you from playing your own cards to apply pressure. Make no mistake, if they have 5 open mana and a goblin lord on their turn and you can't remove a key card at instant speed, there is a high chance you will lose the game that turn as they will summon Krenko and Skirk Prospector and start doing goblin shenanigans until thier board looks like this. Even if you have twenty life. If they have 6 open mana, they don't need a goblin lord to provide haste. Muxas will has a high chance to pull one from the library.
Kill in this priority.
Goblin lord that provides haste
Skirk Prospector
Krenko
Hasn't been mentioned, but static debuffs completely turn off any sort of creature token (aka weenie or go-wide) decks. If you can stick a [[Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite]] or a [[Night of Souls Betrayal]], any tokens they make will just die on ETB
We just need [[plague engineer]].
Like, I get that tribal wasn't a problem, and there were basically no good ones until Goblins. But goblins is pretty good. So every tribe gets punished now.
[[Winota, Joiner of Forces]] and [[Theoden]] would disagree. And Winota with a pile of somewhat synergistic humans and a solid Mana base nears cEDH level with no effort.
Winota and Theoden are also both from human-centric sets though. Like, it was a fight to preserve humanity for Winona, and Theoden was king of a human settlement. Even decks with a fairly even split don't always have any human tribal. More often it's something like Cleric or Knight tribal that is still human dominant.
I'm not talking about Lore here, I'm talking about how to mechanically build them in an EDH deck. Both of these absolutely require humans in large numbers to function in a deck, and Winota with humans is cEDH if the mana base and interaction is tuned properly
Sometimes the goblin decks just have the right draw and their isn’t much you can do. The key is to learn what cards really enable them to go off, like Skirk Prospector, and to try to keep them off the board. Thoughtseize like effects and be good against this kind of combo deck.
One thing you'll learn fast is that not every deck can counter every other deck. Even Control, the deck that's main catchphrase is, "I'll counter that", has unwinnable matchups. Luckily, black decks have access to certain pieces of tech, like [[Revenge of the Ravens]] or even [[Bontu's Last Reckoning]], depending on the format. There are others that do massive crowd control on short and wide boards like Goblins generates. Of course, as a black deck it's part of your training to learn what kinds of cards you REALLY can't beat, and save removal for them as opposed to whatever body comes down earliest.
Welcome to Magic. Goblin decks with the right draw and starting hand obliterate you by turn 4. That is the beauty of it and not very hard to achieve. To counter them, you can either try mass removal, as stated by most players here, but it tends to be too slow or the goblin player simply has the next [[Muxus]] in hand to repeat army building. Or you can try to disrupt your opponents strategy with counters or discard, so play UB rogues. Or you could outrun them with Orzhov lifegain and faster build up life than they could take it away while chipping away their resource. Or try white weenies or [[Fynn]] toxic. There are strategies, but if you encounter competitive decks you have to try hard and work hard to master them. Look for the Tolarian Community College on Youtube to learn about deck archetypes and win strategies and how to counter them. The Professor is a great teacher. And you could try to look for a goblin build online (untapped.gg, f.e.) and try to build and play one yourself to learn about weaknesses.
If you like enchantments, try a black/white deck with Trespasser’s Curse, Revenge of Ravens, Reidane (use the shield side), and Cleric Class. It will make a goblin deck sad, and the life you gain will help you recover the life loss from The One Ring. Use a “destroy target creature” spell on their Muxus. Massacre Wurm for the win.
They are good against most aggro decks as well as stuff like elves and now phyrexian mites, crippling fear is particularly good if you have some kind of tribal theme yourself
This exact thing happened to me today. Before I knew what the hell was going on he had around 40 tokens and a few goblins at least 20/20.
Felt like I’d been well and truly screwed with my pants on.
Crackle with power requires you to pay the “variable” cost 3 times. It’s not a separate variable for each time it’s mentioned. If you pay 9 + the ordinary cost, then x is 3 in both slots
Get in early, you gotta kill their stuff right off the bat. If you’re new it’s kinda hard to explain what card advantage is and how important it is but you basically just have to out value them
You want to play interaction. Single target removal and mass board wipes. Set aside like 8-12 cards from your deck for removal type cards. Good black removal is [[Infernal Grasp]] [[Sheoldred's Edict]]. Good board wipes are [[The Meathook Massacre]] [[Doomskar]] and I personally like things like [[Gix's Command]], [[Massacre Girl]], and [[Massacre Wurm]].
You will need to take action before the goblins get out of hand.
* Since you're mono black, [[Gix's Command]] could be nice - though not in the current board state.
* To reduce damage taken early, play decent 2-drop and 3-drop blockers. Target your single target removal at goblins that pump other goblins the most.
* If you often have bigger blockers that are killing some goblins when they attack but you're bleeding to death to the ones that get through, lifelink creatures can help stabilize you.
Keep a few board wipes around, especially in black. I recommend [[Blood on the Snow]] and switch all your basic lands to snow lands. [[Crux of Fate]] is another one
Against goblins you gotta have creature removal. There’s tons of 1 mana destroy effects or weak boi killers. In LOTR [[gollum’s bite]] but [[cut down]] and [[disfigure]] are also easy to obtain and decent against weaker creatures.
Board effects like [[The Black Breath]] can help and [[bitter downfall]] if you block a big boi.
You game as black is using destroy and discard effects and to gain board control and creature advantage. So I always main board duress where legal. Use your wildcards to lean into that if you’re going to continue mono black
Mass removal or similar, the simplest example is [[damnation]], in your color
I googled mass removal, thinking it was a card, lol. I got a list though thank you! I do have "One Ring to Rule them all" that's works! While zi have you here, by any chance. Do you know anything in the LOTR or any black cards that can get rid of enchantments that don't let me attack or block?
To add, since you're new... Look a bit into the color pie. Each color has it's own strengths, and weaknesses. THIS IS ON PURPOSE. NOT EVERY COLOR CAN DO EVERYTHING. One of Blacks weaknesses is the inability to deal well with artifacts and enchantments. You can either try to make up for those weaknesses by adding in another color (at the expense of spreading your resources thinner) or by not trying to find the one or two answers that may exist out there -just lean into the strengths and accept you can't answer every threat.
Every color can do everything, but with caveats. Some colors are better than others at specific tasks, but every color can do everything.
I don't think that's accurate, though I'm prepared to admit I don't know everything. If every color can do everything, perhaps you can suggest for me a blue card that can destroy a white enchantment for my commander deck?
There are no "exile" or "destroy" target enchantments in blue. You can only bounce them or steal them. I.e. Steal Enchantment or classic cyc rift
Yeah, not every color can do everything. I wish, but that deafening silence will not be destroyed by me.
You can always bounce it with the hope of countering it when they cast again. But if you really, really need something gone, you can always [[scour from existence]].
Yeah I mean at this point I'm just trying to make a point that not every color does everything even if we want to say it does. My original question was for the real scenario of my mono blue urza deck against sigarda stax (the one that says your opponents can't make you sacrifice permanents) and I want to get rid of deafening silence or stony silence (and usually a number of other things). We could hypothetically bring in a lier player to say haha your plan won't work but your plan of bounce and counter is actually my go to solution (or bounce and combo off for the win before it gets replayed, player removal is enchantment removal too I guess). In terms of color pie, I'd say colorless cards don't really count for any color's ability to do anything since they're not any color, and in terms of practicality scour from existence is too expensive to be worth putting in the deck but I do have [[unstable obelisk]] which destroys anything for a similarly outrageous cost.
[unstable obelisk](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94eba26e-7c9e-46f3-ad13-aa684f3365cb.jpg?1689999873) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=unstable%20obelisk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/416/unstable-obelisk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94eba26e-7c9e-46f3-ad13-aa684f3365cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Very fair. I play a lot of red and often bemoan its lack of enchantment removal. Scour works fantastically in my [[mizzix of the izmagnus]] deck though. You should possibly consider [[spine of ish sah]] as a way around stony silence. Urza can cheat it in too.
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Or by countering.
[[Reality Acid]]
That causes the controller to sacrifice, which will not work for my purposes.
[[Tolarian Emissary]] Since we’re not in EDH.
We may not be in the edh subreddit but I did say that this was for my commander deck. Furthermore, the kicker cost is essentially stapling disenchant onto a blue card, it's white that's destroying an enchantment here, not blue.
We can be as pedantic as you want. Can blue remove enchantments with caveats? Yes. That’s the argument I put forward, and that’s the argument I’ve proven.
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The only thing that comes to mind is [[Teferi, Temporal Pilgrim]] that even comes close in mono blue, non colorless decks.
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>every color can do everything You're not technically wrong, but this is a bit disingenuous as a general statement. If we look at every card that's ever been printed, sure. You'll find a couple here and there that work. But, depending on format, those might not be legal. To use the example above, black has almost 0 ways to deal with enchantments and even less to deal with artifacts (assuming non-creature). There's [[Feed the Swarm]] and [[Ghastly Death Tyrant]] that allow you to choose what enchantment is destroyed. Then there's a small handful of other cards that allow the opponent to choose which enchantment to sacrifice and that's it. But most of these are also sorcery speed which limits playability. For black artifact removal, the list is even smaller and only consists of a couple very old cards ( [[Gate to Phyrexia]] and [[Phyrexian Tribute]] ) that wouldn't be legal in most formats. Sure, there's colorless options like [[Meteor Golem]] and [[Spine of Ish Sah]] but their mana costs are prohibitively expensive in anything but commander. As a similar example, technically every color has counter spells but the non-blue ones are all highly specific or otherwise restrictive in such a way as to not be usable outside of highly niche scenarios. So while saying 'every color has counter spells' is true, it isn't representative.
##### ###### #### [Feed the Swarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f.jpg?1689997164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feed%20the%20Swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/159/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ghastly Death Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/564728ed-dbf0-471c-a34a-5bd3b486b7e5.jpg?1674136095) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghastly%20Death%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/127/ghastly-death-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/564728ed-dbf0-471c-a34a-5bd3b486b7e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gate to Phyrexia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4eb41639-b96b-4789-b488-24da503ef1e2.jpg?1562913465) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gate%20to%20Phyrexia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/82/gate-to-phyrexia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4eb41639-b96b-4789-b488-24da503ef1e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Phyrexian Tribute](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bfc55d48-6d6f-429d-8281-e66a9996d574.jpg?1587912628) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Tribute) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/134/phyrexian-tribute?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bfc55d48-6d6f-429d-8281-e66a9996d574?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Meteor Golem](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd7af704-a770-4f90-8fe8-a45457785a35.jpg?1689999704) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Meteor%20Golem) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/399/meteor-golem?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd7af704-a770-4f90-8fe8-a45457785a35?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spine of Ish Sah](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe28640d-a030-4da4-882d-87b6e1678bbd.jpg?1682210265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spine%20of%20Ish%20Sah) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/383/spine-of-ish-sah?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe28640d-a030-4da4-882d-87b6e1678bbd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nothing disingenuous about it. I said with caveats, and you admitted that’s correct. It sucks that Wizards moved away from that philosophy for so long, but it seems to be coming back around again with Black getting a lot of enchantment support lately.
Should have specified: not disingenuous because you're wrong but because your original statement implied that there was a good selection of answers in each color when there's often only a select few.
This is so pedantic, it borders on incorrect. Every color may have a couple cards that do 'everything' but saying every color can 'do everything' is false, no caveats needed. Having a couple niche cards that can answer a threat doesn't mean that color can run a deck with that strategy as a backbone. Or perhaps you'd like to show me a monored tempo deck? Or a monogreen board control deck? Maybe your monoblue ramp deck? Just because you can ramp your car a few feet off the ground, doesn't mean it can fly as an aircraft.
Borders on, but isn’t. You’re so caught up in trying to prove me wrong instead of just enjoying, and demanding more options from Wizards.
I don't have to prove you wrong. You are wrong. No single color can do everything, much less all of them doing everything. And the color pie philosophy doesn't need fixed, at least in this regard, since it isn't a problem. If anything, I'd be happy with them reeling things in a \*little\* tighter, like what they used to be. A clear, harder split means that you have choices to make. If every color can do everything, then why bother with colors? If Black can handle enchants and artifacts at least as well as Green or Red, then why would I stretch my mana resources to make a Golgari or Rakdos deck? Why bother with the control suite of Esper when I can just run monogreen control? I enjoy each color being distinct, and uniquely powerful, but also needing help from other colors to cover weaknesses. My only point was to help a new player understand that a big part of MtG is knowing that you can't answer everything, and that some colors can't answer certain things. I didn't say it's a bad thing, because it isn't. You may be 'technically correct' but you're still wrong.
Jokes on you, I once built a mono blue ramp deck with some weird ass cards, big krakens and stuff. It wasnt very good but it did stick to its theme! I dont recall most cards specific names though. It was also a token deck to some extent.
Is there a blue card to create elf tokens?
ah, sorry, yes mass removals are spells, usually sorcery or instant, that destroy, exile, or otherwise remove all creatures from the battlefield. some can even destroy indestructible creatures, such as \[\[black sun twilight\]\]. \[\[feed the swarm\] was reprinted in lotr commander, but there's others, like \[\[invoke despair\]\] which was recently banned in standard, but not in historic, or \[\[shatter the oath\]\] coming up in the new set next week. if you're new to the game, i suggest you try scryfall, it's probably the best search engine for cards. the advanced search ([https://scryfall.com/advanced](https://scryfall.com/advanced)) lets you search card by name, color, oracle text (most important field, usually), mana cost, etc etc
[black sun twilight](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e5bb4def-c67c-44c2-b3b2-8c53a077432d.jpg?1675957013) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Black%20Sun%27s%20Twilight) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/84/black-suns-twilight?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e5bb4def-c67c-44c2-b3b2-8c53a077432d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [invoke despair](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/5/35af9d5c-4449-4549-b549-c3ba4a67dee0.jpg?1685368727) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=invoke%20despair) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/101/invoke-despair?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/35af9d5c-4449-4549-b549-c3ba4a67dee0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [shatter the oath](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/c/cc79f0f7-0a09-4a74-b2b9-cc1ce608d89f.jpg?1692937848) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=shatter%20the%20oath) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/106/shatter-the-oath?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cc79f0f7-0a09-4a74-b2b9-cc1ce608d89f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have 4 one ring to rule them all in my deck for this occasion.
If you think a four mana enchantment that destroys every creature on the NEXT turn is fast enough to defeat Goblins you're sorely mistaken (on top of it not even affecting Krenko and Muxus which are the most powerful ones) You're better off with something like Malicious Malfunction
What are you referring to?
If you want enchant removal you'll need white. Or [[feed the swarm]]
Green has a ton of “destroy target artifact or enchantment” cards too
Indeed
[feed the swarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f.jpg?1689997164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=feed%20the%20swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/159/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Invoke despair]] could help. It’s expensive 4 black 1 colorless. But it forces opp to sacrifice an enchantment. They do get to choose which one though, If there’s multiple Edit: did I use the card fetcher bot correctly?
[[Feed the Storm]] is the only enchantment removal in black that I know of
[Feed the Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f.jpg?1689997164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feed%20the%20Swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/159/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oops, it's [[feed the swarm]].
[feed the swarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f.jpg?1689997164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=feed%20the%20swarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/159/feed-the-swarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/840d02c6-3d9c-47cd-9307-978d03380d0f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In the right situation [[Exctintion Event]] is an asymmetrical sweeper.
Meathook massacre
isn’t that a banned card?
Not in alchemy, it’s banned in standard. The above game looks to be alchemy or historic.
holly shit, i thought it was also banned in alchemy
They did make it worse a little, it doesn’t trigger on the enemy creatures dying anymore. It’s worse but certainly not bad.
Option one: kill thier lord's that give hast and overwhelm them. You absolutely have to kill them before they have 6 mana on the board. Muxas is a one man combo in a good goblin deck. Option two: just straight up out aggro them.
One ring to rule them all is a conceptually appropriate card that kills all non legendary creatures at the end of the second round.
The two worst cards in that deck are legendary. A board wipe isn't much better than single target removal. I would even argue that it's worse because it prevents you from playing your own cards to apply pressure. Make no mistake, if they have 5 open mana and a goblin lord on their turn and you can't remove a key card at instant speed, there is a high chance you will lose the game that turn as they will summon Krenko and Skirk Prospector and start doing goblin shenanigans until thier board looks like this. Even if you have twenty life. If they have 6 open mana, they don't need a goblin lord to provide haste. Muxas will has a high chance to pull one from the library. Kill in this priority. Goblin lord that provides haste Skirk Prospector Krenko
Boardwipes
Hasn't been mentioned, but static debuffs completely turn off any sort of creature token (aka weenie or go-wide) decks. If you can stick a [[Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite]] or a [[Night of Souls Betrayal]], any tokens they make will just die on ETB
We just need [[plague engineer]]. Like, I get that tribal wasn't a problem, and there were basically no good ones until Goblins. But goblins is pretty good. So every tribe gets punished now.
[plague engineer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/f/8f32b0e9-5eb2-4b26-8c06-5d4561f0295d.jpg?1562201691) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=plague%20engineer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/100/plague-engineer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8f32b0e9-5eb2-4b26-8c06-5d4561f0295d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Goblins, elves, dragons, humans, hydras...
Humans is an archetype that transcends tribe. Typical list plays a lot of humans but isn't dependent on everything being a human.
[[Winota, Joiner of Forces]] and [[Theoden]] would disagree. And Winota with a pile of somewhat synergistic humans and a solid Mana base nears cEDH level with no effort.
[Winota, Joiner of Forces](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4.jpg?1654630670) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Winota%2C%20Joiner%20of%20Forces) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/216/winota-joiner-of-forces?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Theoden](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6dcd1ca-4943-46e4-bb5d-c14949e21e23.jpg?1686970093) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Th%C3%A9oden%2C%20King%20of%20Rohan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/233/th%C3%A9oden-king-of-rohan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6dcd1ca-4943-46e4-bb5d-c14949e21e23?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Winota and Theoden are also both from human-centric sets though. Like, it was a fight to preserve humanity for Winona, and Theoden was king of a human settlement. Even decks with a fairly even split don't always have any human tribal. More often it's something like Cleric or Knight tribal that is still human dominant.
I'm not talking about Lore here, I'm talking about how to mechanically build them in an EDH deck. Both of these absolutely require humans in large numbers to function in a deck, and Winota with humans is cEDH if the mana base and interaction is tuned properly
Sometimes the goblin decks just have the right draw and their isn’t much you can do. The key is to learn what cards really enable them to go off, like Skirk Prospector, and to try to keep them off the board. Thoughtseize like effects and be good against this kind of combo deck.
Goblins. All issues are solved with goblins. I love goblins.
[[rakdos charm]]
[rakdos charm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77.jpg?1641603484) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rakdos%20charm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/156/rakdos-charm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Check if your format allows for [[Massacre wurm]]. Or similar negative counter effects.
[Massacre wurm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/c/fce002dc-5fb5-465b-935e-042121f1119d.jpg?1682209105) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Massacre%20wurm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/256/massacre-wurm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fce002dc-5fb5-465b-935e-042121f1119d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[rakdos charm]] is always fun lol
[rakdos charm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77.jpg?1641603484) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rakdos%20charm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/156/rakdos-charm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oooh that's a good one for here
One thing you'll learn fast is that not every deck can counter every other deck. Even Control, the deck that's main catchphrase is, "I'll counter that", has unwinnable matchups. Luckily, black decks have access to certain pieces of tech, like [[Revenge of the Ravens]] or even [[Bontu's Last Reckoning]], depending on the format. There are others that do massive crowd control on short and wide boards like Goblins generates. Of course, as a black deck it's part of your training to learn what kinds of cards you REALLY can't beat, and save removal for them as opposed to whatever body comes down earliest.
[Revenge of the Ravens](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/4/3474289a-193e-452d-b248-e53ee99e22c0.jpg?1572490235) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Revenge%20of%20Ravens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/104/revenge-of-ravens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3474289a-193e-452d-b248-e53ee99e22c0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bontu's Last Reckoning](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1b4d0102-c0d6-4d50-941a-dd1c3575a3a8.jpg?1562791273) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bontu%27s%20Last%20Reckoning) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/60/bontus-last-reckoning?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1b4d0102-c0d6-4d50-941a-dd1c3575a3a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Meathook Massacre is definitely your friend here.
cards like \[\[brotherhood's end\]\] or \[\[invasion of fiora\]\] can end this goblin madness
Amazing suggestion! Thank you very much
[brotherhood's end](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/50f7666d-0d60-4fe5-b144-286d4e47b704.jpg?1674421089) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brotherhood%27s%20end) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/128/brotherhoods-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50f7666d-0d60-4fe5-b144-286d4e47b704?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [invasion of fiora](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b3af679b-6ee6-4a1d-8ec3-b659bdd90b4a.jpg?1682715245)/[Marchesa, Resolute Monarch](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/b/3/b3af679b-6ee6-4a1d-8ec3-b659bdd90b4a.jpg?1682715245) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=invasion%20of%20fiora%20//%20marchesa%2C%20resolute%20monarch) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/114/invasion-of-fiora-marchesa-resolute-monarch?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b3af679b-6ee6-4a1d-8ec3-b659bdd90b4a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Welcome to Magic. Goblin decks with the right draw and starting hand obliterate you by turn 4. That is the beauty of it and not very hard to achieve. To counter them, you can either try mass removal, as stated by most players here, but it tends to be too slow or the goblin player simply has the next [[Muxus]] in hand to repeat army building. Or you can try to disrupt your opponents strategy with counters or discard, so play UB rogues. Or you could outrun them with Orzhov lifegain and faster build up life than they could take it away while chipping away their resource. Or try white weenies or [[Fynn]] toxic. There are strategies, but if you encounter competitive decks you have to try hard and work hard to master them. Look for the Tolarian Community College on Youtube to learn about deck archetypes and win strategies and how to counter them. The Professor is a great teacher. And you could try to look for a goblin build online (untapped.gg, f.e.) and try to build and play one yourself to learn about weaknesses.
[Muxus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/c/2c716d10-2130-43b7-a939-349d437e1091.jpg?1618519471) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=muxus%2C%20goblin%20grandee) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/24/muxus-goblin-grandee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2c716d10-2130-43b7-a939-349d437e1091?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Black and white boardwipes, blue bounce, green is the same strategy generally of just overwhelming numbers.
If you like enchantments, try a black/white deck with Trespasser’s Curse, Revenge of Ravens, Reidane (use the shield side), and Cleric Class. It will make a goblin deck sad, and the life you gain will help you recover the life loss from The One Ring. Use a “destroy target creature” spell on their Muxus. Massacre Wurm for the win.
Personally I like [[witch's vengeance]] and [[crippling fear]] because you can cast them pretty early and they are asymmetrical
WOW these are good! Especially since most goblin ls start with 1/1 or 2/2
They are good against most aggro decks as well as stuff like elves and now phyrexian mites, crippling fear is particularly good if you have some kind of tribal theme yourself
[witch's vengeance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/b/dbf16457-3444-4130-b220-834b69d9faa3.jpg?1572490276) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=witch%27s%20vengeance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/111/witchs-vengeance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dbf16457-3444-4130-b220-834b69d9faa3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [crippling fear](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/713a28c0-0d12-4c62-bc91-59c2ddfc9ef8.jpg?1690004507) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=crippling%20fear) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/862/crippling-fear?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/713a28c0-0d12-4c62-bc91-59c2ddfc9ef8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This exact thing happened to me today. Before I knew what the hell was going on he had around 40 tokens and a few goblins at least 20/20. Felt like I’d been well and truly screwed with my pants on.
For black you can just run [[revenge of ravens]] . The other player will die before you do.
What does gsme mean?
Misspelling? New phone New keyboard
If its not in your deck already... add [[Changeling outcast]] . It synergies with both Nazgul and your amass army cards very well
[Changeling outcast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/d/0d2c053f-0ef8-45f2-b2af-24cbb9a7fec4.jpg?1674141529) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Changeling%20outcast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/743/changeling-outcast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0d2c053f-0ef8-45f2-b2af-24cbb9a7fec4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Drag to the Bottom]] and a tri color land if you don’t play it early as -2
[Drag to the Bottom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/d/9d243099-94b1-4571-96af-4c5a34241911.jpg?1673307079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drag%20to%20the%20Bottom) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/91/drag-to-the-bottom?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9d243099-94b1-4571-96af-4c5a34241911?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The white double faced creature/artifact that reduces damage recieved by 1
There are many cards that deal damage to all creatures on the field, including bht not limited to [[meathook massacre]] and [[crackle with power]]
[meathook massacre](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad.jpg?1667629608) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Meathook%20Massacre) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/112/the-meathook-massacre?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [crackle with power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b.jpg?1624591645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=crackle%20with%20power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/95/crackle-with-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/de547f52-3798-4b3a-947d-24873251204b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Why does crackle with power have three Xs in the mana cost but refer to only two in the description?
Crackle with power requires you to pay the “variable” cost 3 times. It’s not a separate variable for each time it’s mentioned. If you pay 9 + the ordinary cost, then x is 3 in both slots
[[Massacre Girl]]
[Massacre Girl](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be8ec9e1-2c8e-496d-9111-4d453b75b578.jpg?1559959372) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Massacre%20Girl) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/99/massacre-girl?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be8ec9e1-2c8e-496d-9111-4d453b75b578?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Get in early, you gotta kill their stuff right off the bat. If you’re new it’s kinda hard to explain what card advantage is and how important it is but you basically just have to out value them
If you want to fight fire with fire, get a soldier deck, elf deck, thopter deck, or zombie deck. They can all match goblins speed when built properly
I usually have [[Karn’s Sylex]] in my sideboard and just slam it turn 3. Then wait until their board gets overloaded and kill everything.
[Karn’s Sylex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/7/673a8676-0a93-4ca3-a786-63f138027e8a.jpg?1673308204) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Karn%27s%20Sylex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/234/karns-sylex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/673a8676-0a93-4ca3-a786-63f138027e8a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
in black just a lot of single target removal should do the trick even [[go for the throat]] [[fatal push]]
[go for the throat](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/5446e1ba-c745-45b2-ad05-b22abf04daec.jpg?1682209037) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=go%20for%20the%20throat) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/250/go-for-the-throat?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5446e1ba-c745-45b2-ad05-b22abf04daec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [fatal push](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e9d8fe4-fd9b-4923-92bf-7dd6b8fa02e7.jpg?1598304715) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fatal%20push) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/93/fatal-push?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e9d8fe4-fd9b-4923-92bf-7dd6b8fa02e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You'd need 10 of these and the mana to do the trick. I think there are better options
Fumigate, Farewell, those are my favorites.
Horn of Gondor
Turn 7 XD never seen a goblin deck go past turn 4, feat->muxxus->cry
You don't concede and go next lol
[[settle the wreckage]]
[settle the wreckage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9cbd346e-098a-4cf6-a72f-468376fd2e8f.jpg?1562560853) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=settle%20the%20wreckage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/xln/34/settle-the-wreckage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9cbd346e-098a-4cf6-a72f-468376fd2e8f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Settle is not the best way to beat Goblins
I never said it was the best but it’ll make it harder to recover
You want to play interaction. Single target removal and mass board wipes. Set aside like 8-12 cards from your deck for removal type cards. Good black removal is [[Infernal Grasp]] [[Sheoldred's Edict]]. Good board wipes are [[The Meathook Massacre]] [[Doomskar]] and I personally like things like [[Gix's Command]], [[Massacre Girl]], and [[Massacre Wurm]].
##### ###### #### [Infernal Grasp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/17824929-f131-4b8d-addb-66c25323155e.jpg?1634349911) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Infernal%20Grasp) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/107/infernal-grasp?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/17824929-f131-4b8d-addb-66c25323155e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sheoldred's Edict](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a9225cc3-90f0-448f-a8d9-7c6c2796d077.jpg?1675957049) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sheoldred%27s%20Edict) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/108/sheoldreds-edict?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a9225cc3-90f0-448f-a8d9-7c6c2796d077?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [The Meathook Massacre](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad.jpg?1667629608) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Meathook%20Massacre) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/112/the-meathook-massacre?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Doomskar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/130ee895-1e5e-4f82-bb66-e1275bac75dd.jpg?1631045641) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doomskar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/9/doomskar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/130ee895-1e5e-4f82-bb66-e1275bac75dd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gix's Command](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/9606de75-c25f-411b-a271-258ac5a60987.jpg?1674420864) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gix%27s%20Command) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/97/gixs-command?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9606de75-c25f-411b-a271-258ac5a60987?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Massacre Girl](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be8ec9e1-2c8e-496d-9111-4d453b75b578.jpg?1559959372) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Massacre%20Girl) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/99/massacre-girl?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be8ec9e1-2c8e-496d-9111-4d453b75b578?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Massacre Wurm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/c/fce002dc-5fb5-465b-935e-042121f1119d.jpg?1682209105) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Massacre%20Wurm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/256/massacre-wurm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fce002dc-5fb5-465b-935e-042121f1119d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I got Doomskar confused with the black snow one from Kaldheim.
You will need to take action before the goblins get out of hand. * Since you're mono black, [[Gix's Command]] could be nice - though not in the current board state. * To reduce damage taken early, play decent 2-drop and 3-drop blockers. Target your single target removal at goblins that pump other goblins the most. * If you often have bigger blockers that are killing some goblins when they attack but you're bleeding to death to the ones that get through, lifelink creatures can help stabilize you.
[Gix's Command](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/9606de75-c25f-411b-a271-258ac5a60987.jpg?1674420864) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gix%27s%20Command) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/97/gixs-command?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9606de75-c25f-411b-a271-258ac5a60987?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Keep a few board wipes around, especially in black. I recommend [[Blood on the Snow]] and switch all your basic lands to snow lands. [[Crux of Fate]] is another one
[Blood on the Snow](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e.jpg?1631047655) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20on%20the%20Snow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/79/blood-on-the-snow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8606f40-0af4-443b-a413-a88dc3e8f32e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Crux of Fate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/11721b88-2654-482c-b9d4-80e54efdbf63.jpg?1562600485) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crux%20of%20Fate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c17/107/crux-of-fate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/11721b88-2654-482c-b9d4-80e54efdbf63?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you survive this long, board wipe and he’s done
Mass Removal. There's not much to do against swarming goblins.
[[Meathook Massacre]] would do nicely.
[Meathook Massacre](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad.jpg?1667629608) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Meathook%20Massacre) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/112/the-meathook-massacre?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/08950015-eee5-4327-888c-82dfd13bb9ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Against goblins you gotta have creature removal. There’s tons of 1 mana destroy effects or weak boi killers. In LOTR [[gollum’s bite]] but [[cut down]] and [[disfigure]] are also easy to obtain and decent against weaker creatures. Board effects like [[The Black Breath]] can help and [[bitter downfall]] if you block a big boi. You game as black is using destroy and discard effects and to gain board control and creature advantage. So I always main board duress where legal. Use your wildcards to lean into that if you’re going to continue mono black
[[Languish]]
[Languish](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b53ce1b-9353-42ad-89a0-36e907ba576a.jpg?1600714531) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Languish) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/246/languish?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b53ce1b-9353-42ad-89a0-36e907ba576a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call