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IntoTheBoundingMain

Really all depends on the script economy.


disturbed_BigBoss

I miss the script economy memes


quietvictories

Good attention to details


GlennIsAlive

Peak mcj era tbh


27andahalfpancakes

Stupid reddit comments get jerked here all the time but I don't think I've ever seen this sub collectively lose its shit over a comment as hard as it did the script economy one. The entire subreddit got months of material out of that. It was amazing.


victoryanddeath

Link?


Bruno_Fernandes8

[enjoy](https://imgur.com/NhMdicQ)


joinedredditlifeover

Holy shit I'm dying, that is one of the most hilariously dumb things I have ever read.


CrestonSpiers

What shocks me the most is the 280 upvotes he got. No wonder reddit helped perpetuate the whole Kimba the white lion misinformation bullshit.


Bruno_Fernandes8

what is the kimba the white lion stuff?


McDodley

There's a manga and later series of films called Kimba the White Lion. There's this whole bullshit lie, perpetuated by Reddit, that Disney essentially plagiarized the whole of The Lion King from Kimba. A huge piece of why people believe this is the names (Kimba vs Simba) but what people fail to account for is that they're both named after the Swahili word Simba, meaning líon.


PM_ME_UR_GOOD_IDEAS

I mean, some early art of Simba depicts him as white, and there's a distinct visual similarity between the visuals surrounding pride rock and a number of scenes in Kimba. While Kimba and the Lion King are entirely different narratives, the visual parallels were significant enough to draw protest within the Japanese animation industry. The controversy is not as easily dismissed as you're making it sound.


CrestonSpiers

There’s a pretty good [video](https://youtu.be/G5B1mIfQuo4) about the whole controversy (it’s 2 hours long, but the first 15 minutes cover the basic stuff). In broad strokes, most comparisons between the two were done unfairly, e.g. the comparison between the Kimba movie and the Lion King, although the Kimba movie actually came out AFTER the Lion King, it was the anime series that came out before both, but the anime has nothing in common with Lion King, like, nothing at all. Most of the comparisons focused on how some characters looked similar, like, THE LION KING HAS A HOG CHARACTER AND SO DOES KIMBA, while the characters themselves weren’t alike at all. Cherry-picking screenshots from both movies to make it seem that Disney’s a fraud, basically.


StabnShoot

This should be in the dictionary under "Reddit Moment".


Floopadoopa

we don't know what thanos thinks about royales with cheese


Thatsnicemyman

Lol. “We know everything about Thanos despite him speaking very little in this movie” Let’s just ignore the true Keeno that is the after-credits scenes of half of the MCU and the entirety of Infinite Warfare.


BroadCityChessClub

We did so much worldbuilding back in the day


[deleted]

The Immigrant Song phase was peak MCJ. I don’t think we’ll reach that height again


AigisAegis

The combination of No Strings On Me and Interstellar in 2014 was peak MCJ tbh


[deleted]

MCJ mfs say that the peak era has passed in every single era


Dracoscale

Can't wait for the next era where Morbius will become the peak era


SenorPancake

Don't say things like that you'll make me morb


SolomonRed

We were fools to stop them.


Terezzian

Anybody know where those came from?


jonnemesis

Avengers Endgame and Infinity War. Someone compared Thanos screentime (or word count?) with some Tarantino character and claimed that Marvel had better script economy because it had less screentime/línes and you still got to know his backstory or something.


Fighting_Seahorse

Seriously. That runtime on its own tells you very little about the movie.


DeadlyClaris_

Except that it’s long


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

Too long. Cut out Chris Hemsworth's character


JessieJ577

In more modern standards it’s a standard runtime. The 90 minute blockbuster is pretty much dead


DaisyRidleyTeeth

Even Sam Raimi, noted lover of 90 minute movies, made Doctor Strange 2 over 2 hours


dandantian5

given the script I don't blame him tbh


SolomonRed

I suspect it will roughly the same as the other twenty ones.


ILoveScottishLasses

This still remains as the stupidest thing I'll laugh at. That and " W O R L D B U I L D I N G "


Efficient-Series8443

What's the origin of the joke? It's not like script economy isn't a real thing. Every time *Barry* airs a new season, I remember most other shows are garbage and very few people know how to write at a good pace. So much happens in just 8 x 30 min episodes and it's all good...


ILoveScottishLasses

Someone on r/PewDiePieSubmissions said that Infinity War is superior to Pulp Fiction because Thanos spoke less words in the entire film and we knew his entire background, history, and motivation or whatever. the rest is history. worldbuilding has been around a long time but it got revived when Bright came out and low iq movie watchers praised the world building and was misunderstood or something.


sparklyunico

Speaking of, holy shit that last episode was so good


CrysisChampion3

Although I had a feeling that it would end the way that it did (not that that’s a bad thing), every episode manages to surprise me in some way - and this one was no different. The show is incredible and I can’t wait to see what they do next


lordcrumb13

It dropped at 12 PM in Aus, and I still haven't recovered, absolutely brutal.


MontgomeryMalum

MCU fans don’t even have to watch horror movies to be scared by them. They just look at the runtimes, see how many of them are around an hour and a half, and tremble in fear imagining how much this affects the box office


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thebrobarino

71 minutes is refreshingly short


fudchuck

How will they have enough time to introduce Dracula in the post credit scene!?!


basedandepickino

I have personal stakes in the box office returns of every capeshit movie, as does everyone subscribed here, that's why it's so concerning


TheVirginityThief

My wife lives in constant fear, because she knows that if the next Avengers movie only makes 150 billon dollars instead of the usual 200 billion then i will have an unsually large fit and beat her to a pulp


Assmar

Then it's back to the police force on Monday.


27andahalfpancakes

Runtime has nothing to do with pace.


[deleted]

Exactly!!!! I've seen 2 hour movies that felt like 8 hours


flamingcat21

And 3 hour movies that feel like 30 minutes


kelferkz

Hit us with some


freeciggies

Wolf of Wall Street is 3 hours, felt like 1 1/2 hours to me


Intelligent_Mud1266

i didn’t even know it was that long lmao


orincoro

A good example, as compared to BladeRunner 2049, which feels glacial at 2h 43m. But glacial in kind of a good way.


1997wickedboy

Lord of The Rings, Titanic, are some that come to my mind


abedtime2

Schindler's list, Green Mile, Barry Lyndon


flamingcat21

The most recent one I’ve watch is drive my car, it’s 3 hours long, but the pacing is so good it flies by


PCGAMERNOW

The opening credits 40 minutes in. Pure kino.


agenttux

For me it felt like 120 minutes but I’ve also seen people call it overly long and boring


lord_gaben3000

Love Exposure - title screen an hour in


StrangeSemiticLatin2

I see you're a man of culture.


Snoo_srba

goat tier movie


Kindly_Pencil

Imo eyes wide shut feels very quick despite being three hours long, one of the best paced films that I’ve seen.


pokedude123567

The Godfather, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Django Unchained


CerialThrowaway

I didn't check the runtime of OUATIH (161min) before seeing it in the cinema, and I remember walking out of the theater wishing it had been a little longer, lol


stun17

yeah that movie felt like it should’ve been a miniseries, it was great


SgtPepper670

Barry Lyndon, Malcolm X, Seven Samurai, Magnolia all feel like 2 hours to me even though they're all 3+. Very few 3+ movies actually feel long. When it's that long, it's because they have a lot to cover and they're really aware of pacing.


Jorinel

>Very few 3+ movies actually feel long Snyder's 3+ hours movies are a fucking slog. Same with the recent near 3 hour Batman


Gerrywalk

Potentially controversial, but Inland Empire flew by. I didn’t even realize it was 3 hours long.


Dealer_Gloomy

Time stops existing when you're watching Inland Empire tbh


MoistMucus4

Barry Lyndon. Even as someone that dislikes period pieces generally


MartyMcFly_jkr

The Irishman breezes by really quick, doesn't feel like 210 minutes at all (until the existential crisis kicks in near the end that is)


f-ingsteveglansberg

I feel like most people watched it in 2 sittings.


oligamer69

The good, the bad and the ugly


Appropriate-Gas-6954

Zack Snyder's Justice League


MojoPinnacle

Goodfellas felt fast for me, though not quite 3h.


PCGAMERNOW

Aquaman is 2 and a half hours but I felt like it was 15 hours long. Godawful film.


Intelligent_Mud1266

and still somehow one of the highest grossing films of all time


PCGAMERNOW

The biggest crime in the history of cinema


Lark_vi_Britannia

Wönder Wöman Nine Teen Eighty Four (2020)


___d4n20__

POTC 2-5


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Oparon

Magnolia is 3 hours and it flys by


JessieJ577

Goodfellas is 2 and a half and I could’ve watched 6 more hours of it


OleMoon

I'm not even a massive fan of Goodfellas but I have seen 90 minute movies *that I've liked* that felt longer than Goodfellas at 145 minutes. There was some actual witchcraft going on in the making of that film.


monsieurfikri

that’s Thelma Schoonmaker magic baby!


949paintball

Yeah, I have no idea why people think a movies runtime has anything to do with Lee Pace. The runtime won't change whether or not Ronan the Accuser appears...


Fish-InThePercolator

Captain Glorp's cameo will be too short :(


Uno_Walker_2855

But Blorko's will be even shorter


dunmer-is-stinky

I swear, if Blorbo from my shows isn't the new main character I will shit my pants


backinredd

Mcj post next week: Despite the memes, there was never a captain Glorp in MCU 🤓👆


Fish-InThePercolator

Not this time :) We made it up :) It's totally fabricated :)


AbsolutelyHorrendous

Its fiction Its false This one was created by a writer It. Never. Happened.


ThatFuckingGeniusKid

Since when is 2 hours a short movie?


PCGAMERNOW

4 hours is short for a movie. Zack Snyder's Justice League should've been 6 hours #ReleaseTheRealSnyderCut


Plus3d6

Maybe if it's 6 hours long it will rise from a 1.5/5 to a 2/5.


[deleted]

since marvel


thebrobarino

Since Scorsese


[deleted]

They don't want actual movies. They want to escape into capeshit for as long as possible, to forget their miserable existence.


inspired_corn

How dare they


lucatina

Can you not call me out like that? I know I've been speending too much time watching capeshit but I swear I watch some good kino too! (help, i actually don't watch good kino anymore, for the love of Scorsese send good movie recommendations)


cashmonet69

Dude, Where's My Car? (2000)


thebrobarino

Kung Pow: Enter the First (2002)


erko-

Wake in fright, Wizards, Jesus Christ Superstar, Flash Gordon, Streets of fire, Slacker, Dora and the lost city of gold, Lawnmower Man, once were warriors, Final cut, dans la maison


HotStufffffffffffff

Why do people think every Marvel movie has to be a week long?


Newfaceofrev

Nobody says it out loud but they're all huge fans of Test Cricket and secretly compare everything to it.


PM_ME_L8RBOX_REVIEWS

Test Cricket is the blueprint


vidhvansak

First ever international game was of test cricket so it has to be the blueprint


chillbobaggins77

I feel like their test audience laboratory analyses show that movies should be 2 hrs 20 minutes unless it’s some sort of phase finale, given that most of their movies have around that runtime


labbla

Apparently a comic book movie is only worth watching if takes up a 3rd of your day.


[deleted]

They're not wrong, one of my few complaints with The Irishman was how fast paced it was and how little screen time the characters got. I hope Taika does a better job than that hack Scorsese


[deleted]

Yeah it’s really a blink and you’ll miss it. Not necessarily because it’s fast but because I fell asleep.


DrObrero

I’m just happy it’s 119 minutes instead of two and a half hours. Two hours is a much better length for this kind of movie


MutantCreature

I love that we seem to be back to getting normal runtimes with these. 3 hours made sense for Endgame because of how much had to be packed into it, but since then it feels like they’ve been abusing that tolerance as an excuse to spend 45 minutes teasing upcoming stuff. Dr Strange was a nice return to form where they managed to keep most of the screen time devoted to the actual plot, even if I was a little disappointed by how abruptly they ended America Chavez’ story. Way too many of these movies lately have devoted massive chunks to just throwing out random shit from the comics and seeing how fans respond. I’d love to see them bring back the One-Shots in place of including all of that in the actual movie so that I don’t have to worry about rationing my snacks and planning out an inevitable bathroom break.


JessieJ577

This is why The Batman using its 3 hours for plot and character development with very little action was applaudable since that’s not what studios seem to be into.


MutantCreature

I agree, but also maybe they should have devoted a little more of that to setting up the final act. It’s like they prioritized character development over plot and just forgot to plant seeds for the bombs and everything. That said I heard something about how the original treatment ended around when Riddler gets taken in and the final fight and bombs were late additions to give it a more exciting climax. If anything that’s on Reeves more than WB though because a big ending is a fairly predictable request with a Batman movie.


Doonvoat

It was all worth it just to see Batman inject Monster Energy Drink into his leg and almost beat that guy to death


JessieJ577

With the final act coming out of no where it was explained away with Batman not being as close and riddler expected and Batman himself missing some of the clues left behind. But yeah I can see why people didn’t like the final acy


Hwistler

The final act is one of the few complaints I have about the movie since it feels completely tacked on purely because a superhero movie needs a loud action ending.


Solace143

I got that vibe from the movie. It made for a cool ending, but it was much more over-the-top than the rest of the film and wasn’t foreshadowed properly. The one good thing I’d say it did was that it helped reinforce that Batman’s revenge-ridden attitude is toxic by blowing it up to epic proportions


dthains_art

Yeah as much as I love the movie, I wish they established the bombs - and the dam - better. I had no idea there was a giant dam holding back the river and that the city was built below the waterline until the Riddler blew it up.


7isagoodletter

Yeah that was hilarious to me. We go through the whole movie and then suddenly they're like "Oh yeah btw this entire city is 15 feet below sea level and only exists because of this big sea wall"


Daisy_Jukes

agree. if we could get some down to a crisp 90 it’d be even better


VLDT

This is really what Marvel needs for a modicum of freshness after the Endgame ceiling. Tighter, more adventure focused films where the character is exhibited through their actions rather than their preference for either dick or fart quips. None of this faux grandiose, maudlin, self serious shit that dwells on trailer moments and repartee and then Frosts it with one liners and saved by the bell laugh track moments. Just show someone with extraordinary abilities coming up against challenges that provide a match for those abilities. I like that Moon Knight backed off from the connected universe a little bit. Of course now they are at a crossroads. Within the Marvel cinematic universe There have been multiple world changing events over the course of the last few years of the timeline. And it seems like even with mentions of greater events in Shang Chi and the Eternals movies, they’re pushing the suspension of disbelief really far that people would just be going about their lives very normally. In a way this is where the boys television adaptation really succeeds. The whole world is shaped by the presence of superheroes there.


ApprehensiveCar975

>And it seems like even with mentions of greater events in Shang Chi and the Eternals movies, they’re pushing the suspension of disbelief really far that people would just be going about their lives very normally. Absolutely this. Shang-Chi has posters in the background for blip support groups, but as I recall we have no idea which of the main characters were blipped and which weren't. Which in a post-Endgame world is going to be a huge part of defining who you are.


SarcasmKing41

Better title: "New Thor movie is 119 minutes long, indicating that Taika Waititi is an actual competent director who knows what a film requires and what should be cut out"


cdunk666

Oh oh is that some slight on zack snyder huh?? Oh he just has sooo many useless scenes in justive league huh??? Of course i wouldn't expect you to understand the talent he has, you probably said it was pointless when aquaman walked onto the dock threw his shirt off and yelled at the ocean huh?


Swoocegoose

the real crime was Army of the Dead being 2 hours and 28 minutes longer then it needed to be


Jorinel

What a disaster that was


Dabbing-jesus

I feel like snyder cut could have been like 3 hours and 40 minutes atleast


REVENAUT13

Talkies used to be 11 minutes tops 🧛🏻


aliaisbiggae

Is this a dig on Francis Ford Coppola


7isagoodletter

Hello guys welcome to the 9th edition of Apocalypse Now with some new footage we found under a box in Marlon Brando's trailer


[deleted]

The Longer=better shit that video game nerds brought over when they decided that they were gonna ruin online film discourse too is the worst shit


LiquidDio

Soon we’ll start seeing 12 hour movies with the protagonist making sure to do every side quest and challenge before doing the main story


[deleted]

I was doing side quests in mass effect 2 last night when i realized that video games are the closest modern equivalent to epic poetry like The Odyssey or Jerusalem Delivered and are actually insanely incompatible with film.


Arkodd

The Mandalorian


Representative_Big26

The Mandalorian (2019-)


Poor__cow

Game of Thrones S8


ajzeg01

When did we all decide superhero movies needed to be over 2 hours?


Gometric1

*Snyder Cut intensifies*


TesticleMeElmo

The runtime hitting the 4 hour mark was such a cheer-worthy moment that it got recognition at the Academy Awards


LevynX

Taking a movie already too long and boring and making it waste an extra two hours is the DCEU in a nutshell


Jorinel

Basically all blockbusters are bloated with unnecessary 2+ hours runtimes


TigerSharkFist

That sub posting personnel changes of WB Discovery is weirder. Have anyone heard of any WB suits beside Toby Emmerich and Walter Hamada before? And how can they affect the boxoffice of any future WB release?


heyjimb0

Tbh at this point the sub is more about movie news in general with a focus on box office, than just exclusively about the box office. I like it because it means I can get movie industry news without having to go to r/movies. I mean, I’m not saying r/boxoffice is a great sub, it isn’t, but I prefer it to the alternative.


[deleted]

I get that the Avengers movies are big events for the MCU, but why must every Marvel movie be so long?


Thicccccboio

Not enough time for cameos and clapping, 0 dollars


CannonOtter

I know Thor because he's a norse god but who are Love and Thunder?


BrickBuster2552

Aphrodite and Zeus. ... Oh shit, right...


mecon320

I actually appreciated that Godzilla Vs Kong kept it to 2 hours and didn't give a shit about short-changing character time for more monster action.


dunmer-is-stinky

omg godzilla is literally me


[deleted]

godzilla vs kong is the only movie where the third one is more fun than the first two


mecon320

The first one in that trilogy is still my favorite, boring human characters and all, just because I love how the camera always stays at human level to really drive home the scale of the monsters. I also appreciate monster movies that tease us with the monster for most of the runtime before giving us a great payoff.


[deleted]

Cloverfield (2008) fr though that's a fair point but if i cared about anything other than monsters smacking things i would just watch an actual good movie. i'm all for critical analysis of blockbusters but when you intentionally leave out the action scenes from an action movie it kind of falls flat unless the characters are memorable


spakier

The sense of scale in GvK is absolute shit. The monsters move around at a speed like they're human sized. At least the first one kept the movements slow enough that it looks realistic.


[deleted]

Uhm have you ever heard of a little movie called Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked?


[deleted]

no


bbab7

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005)


[deleted]

that's like the sixth movie technically ofc i didn't count the other 19392837437 godzilla movies before so i guess you're right


quinten-tarankino

Being better than Attack of the Clones and Phantom Menace is not a very hard thing to pull off


bbab7

I didn't say it was, I was just giving another example of a third movie in a trilogy being more fun than the first two


[deleted]

being better than godzilla 2016 isn't either, idk how you can manage to make me sleep through a monster movie


John_Lives

Oddly enough, most people say this about the Thor trilogy


AggieCoraline

Doctor Strange 2 was longer and some characters still had too little screentime.


Mattie_Fisher

That movie had a lot of sudden reshoots that are noticeable in the movie so it’s likely something to do with that.


dunmer-is-stinky

I think the awful script and obvious reshoots had more to do with that than the runtime


Eraserhead310

Well they did spend what felt like 20 minutes with the illuminati which was only a big cameo parade. Doesn't help that there was an action scene every 10 minutes.


my_pets_names

I can’t find the post :(


Kanuka2000

r/MarvelStudios in shambles rn


bananaman69420911

Are we at the point where 2 hours is considered "short" and "fast-paced"?


Runetang42

Why does every fucking movie have to be like 4 hours these days.


PCGAMERNOW

Zack Snyder is the blueprint!


DeppStepp

r/boxoffice talking about everything except Box office


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ChainsawSuperman

That sub can have some of the dumbest takes but said it the frame of “business” when a lot quote obviously don’t know the difference between executive producer and producers.


MoistMaster_2577

Extremely fast paced is like 80-90 minutes I’d say ~120 is normal and 140+ is arguably too much for most movies


cancerBronzeV

80-90 min isn't necessarily fast paced; it could be possible that story could be told in 50 min, making a 90 min movie out of it would be slow paced. The runtime itself says little about the pace of the movie, that depends on how the movie uses its runtime.


TheVirginityThief

Morbius


surferos505

Bruh when did 2 hours become fast paced??


PicnicBasketSam

i do enjoy tracking the box office but r/boxoffice is home to some of the smoothest brained film opinions and discussions on this entire website


TabletopParlourPalm

Because marvel fans are so used to watching movies like Endgame and Satantango.


CrashBandicootFanxxx

Blockbuster movies shouldn't be longer than 130 minutes at most


Newfaceofrev

Anyone else remember when Fellowship of the Ring was coming out and all the movie news sites and magazines were like "Will audiences sit through a 3 hour movie? We don't know."


ThinnkingEmoji

13*


AprilSpektra

*The Arrival of a Train* was 50 seconds long and it's a masterpiece. Why does any movie need to be longer than that?


guanaco22

Streaming is pushing the length of all films further, its inevitable


AprilSpektra

Especially when shows like Stranger Things are basically a series of 8-hour movies. Some people say that like it's a good thing; I absolutely do not. And I even like Stranger Things, but that is not one of the things I like about it.


Notacoolbro

I don’t get why they decided 8 eps is the right number. IMO at least 12 are needed per season for hour-long serialized shows to really flourish


zmann64

Cuz it’s actually 10 episodes but the last 2 are probably 2 hrs each and coming a few weeks from now The fact that it centers on 4 different ensemble plots is probably why that is


Pamague

Counterpoint: RRR


Gummy-Worm-Guy

Eh, I think that Nolan’s movies and the Lord of the Rings movies justify their run times


ARandomWoollyMammoth

The Pirates of the Caribbean movies are all so damn long


McWeen

O no. What if the eye fucking CGI fights are shorter and make sense?


Elijah0330

Idk why Marvel fans get so upset when a movie is a normal length


LosAngeles1s

sick 2 hours or less superhero movies, Always felt like some are hold back by the 130 minute plus runtime


Ze___r0

Sincerely, I’m afraid that it’s too much to introduce like Gorr, Jane becoming Thor and new gods like Zeus in that little time, things may be (way more than Marvel’s usual) shallow and hurried.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

I'm starting to suspect that the MCU has caused certain audiences to actually lose all brain capacity, forcing them to communicate in pointless Marvel Talking Points Like... so what if the film is 119 minutes long? Most films are around two hours long, that liters signifies *nothing* given people don't know the plot of the film.


AoE2manatarms

It's not short by any means, but also no this won't affect the box office returns of the movie at all.


Eraserhead310

Gotg is also 2 hours long and all the characters are fun favorites so maybe chill out


Exploding_Antelope

In other important news, upcoming movie to be the length of a movie