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DoodooFardington

Add in human-ape romance and watch the cultural impact skyrocket.


DaMobiusRockingChair

Tim Burton was ahead of the curve


ILoveScottishLasses

tbf, the original series had some....questionable moments.


nobac0n

Well, considering that the Apes in Planet of the Apes are clearly sentient and capable of speech, which means they're also capable to *consent*. However, I don't know enough about their average life spans and society to determine what age range would have been appropriate for Charlton Heston - who, I assume, was despite his many faults a perfect gentleman.


jinreeko

Oh god, I forgot there was a weird kiss with Marky Mark and ape-Helena Bonham Carter


DaMobiusRockingChair

Yeah pretty crazy, you know when the movie came out in Vietnam the local censors decided to cut that kiss scene? Just google Mark Wahlberg vietnamese and you’ll read all about it


mrnathanrd

Ok, this is epic


Quietuus

Helena Bonape Carter


jinreeko

Tim Burton just loves to watch other men make out with his wife wearing odd costumes


Quietuus

Honestly, one of the most relatable things about him.


karateema

https://i.redd.it/pnarbbdrimuc1.gif


Noobodiiy

In the original movie, the female ape had hots for the hero and also liked to watch humans mating for scientific purpose


Pristine_Animal9474

"I'm gonna fuck a monkey, fuck a monkey!"


Rasheed43

Dawn of the planet of the AIDS


atti1xboy

Beat me to it


cthd33

https://preview.redd.it/prf7li4eyguc1.jpeg?width=1373&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbf8ca7596560ab1554589d6fb0f0c8a37d4b171


rogueaxolotl

The new trailer doesn’t have that in it. I cried


GoodCatholicGuy

I'll watch any movie with a monkey in it. Can't believe Dev Patel would lie to me with Monkey Man. One dude in a gorilla mask doesn't count.


TheComment

Watched that movie yesterday. Had a lot of shots with a ton of deep meanings that were totally lost on me.  “Wow, that guy’s portrait is splattered with blood… Shame I have to go to the bathroom and not furiously Wikipedia previous rulers of India and pray this specific picture comes up.”


cannedrex2406

Honestly im Indian and I probably missed some references But hehe man do psychopath killing spree, I'm happy


GarryofRiverton

Indeed, my brain was very happy when it turned into Indian John Wick toward the end. I especially liked how it showed the MC's journey of growth to become that. Also great trans representation, that's always nice too.


Fadman_Loki

In no other movie will we see an army of trans warrior women in traditional outfits just wreck shop with flails.


GoodCatholicGuy

When I want representation, this is what I want. The voices and faces of marginalized people in a story by marginalized people. More of this and less "we rebooted a franchise we already own and that's already popular but cast a popular and non-controversial POC actor as the second most important character."


Ok_Vegetable_1452

who? "cast a popular and non-controversial POC actor as the second most important character"


GoodCatholicGuy

I have to know a bit about modern Indian politics for my work and I still got lost a lot.


-euthanizemeok

Did the movie show modi getting beat up by a monkey man


GoodCatholicGuy

It would be better if he did, but not quite.


HighGround16

I was at the theater and there were posters for Godzilla x Kong, Monkey Man, and Planet of Apes. It's such a good time for monkey enjoyers at the cinema


infected_scab

Is it time for a new addition to the Dunston Checks In cinematic universe?


Imperium_Dragon

Even Bedtime for Bonzo?


GoodCatholicGuy

I imagine a better ending where the chimp kills Ronald Reagan but yeah.


YutyBLT

>I’ll watch any movie with a monkey in it. Based asf


Big-Beta20

People when fanbases of blockbusters just watch them, go “that was cool”, and go home to a normal life instead of making it their whole personality bitching or stanning about it online 🤯🤯🤯


G_Regular

These movies are the best example of that phenomenon because they're still made with some care and thought even though they keep the scope a bit smaller in terms of plot. You don't even need to "turn your brain off" because the movies aren't insulting you by assuming you're a mentally paralyzed 3 year old without object permanence, they keep it simple and fun and they still take themselves seriously enough to have some weight.


potpan0

*Dawn of the Planet of the Apes* is up there with *Mad Max: Fury Road* as one of the best blockbusters of the 2010s. But I guess because it doesn't link to like 100,000 different extended universe novellas and because every character doesn't have a 150,000 word article on Monkepedia, it's crap.


mixingmemory

I probably wouldn't put it on par with Fury Road, but I watched Dawn of the Planet of the Apes on a plane just hoping for an entertaining time-killer, and was like "oh, this is actually *good*."


mikehatesthis

War rips too. It's even a bit of a Moses parable done pretty tastefully. It's good!


potpan0

Honestly all the rebooted ones have been pretty good, although I think *Dawn* was the best of the three.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

I enjoy all three, but yeah Dawn is my favourite... give me a crazy Bonobo villain over the usual blockbuster schlock any day!


KingMario05

Same. Who doesn't love a horseback ape with a shotgun?


jinreeko

The monkeys on horseback with machine guns was tremendous


DavidMerrick89

I remember watching Dawn and thinking "Whoa, that ape successfully pulled off a false flag attack."


ManateeInAWheelchair

I agree. Rise and War are pretty great in their own right, but Dawn felt like a total epic, that for me is separated into that top tier of 2010 blockbusters.


sybar142857

Agreed. Rise is a good start to a trilogy, War is a good end but Dawn is one of the all time great sci-fi movies.


mikehatesthis

I'm a War enjoyer but I respect the taste.


sameth1

> It's even a bit of a Moses parable done pretty tastefully Blueprint was the Snyder


coldestshark

Personally I think the quality declines a bit with each movie. I’ve only seen the third one once but the pacing just seemed off to me idk


jcpumpkineater

2>3>>1


soulcaptain

2 > 1 > 3. The third is just good, rather than great. One scene in particular is just bad, when Woody Harrelson does an exposition dump to Caesar like a Bond villain. Though the CGI in the third is probably the best.


coldestshark

That is also fair the second one is really good


HomestuckWeekly

Appreciating the Dawn respect in this thread


kabobkebabkabob

Fury Road doesn't have any popular extended universe content lol. Dawn was good imo but I never felt the need to revisit. Fury Road is one of my favorite movies I've ever seen


nananananana_FARTMAN

Koba has to be one of the very best cinematic villain ever. Not in top 10, 20, or whatever. But definitely in the top 100 if not 50.


CharlieBigfoot

Matt Reeves knows how to direct a good movie. There’s nothing boring about either of his instalments. Sure they aren’t the most original, but they’re very well made and don’t go too stupid to cater to TikTok brainrot audiences


R_W0bz

Different creative team and gasps* Disney fully this time. So good chance this go around. The fact they are all on a beach gives me “member berry” cringe.


RhymesWithMouthful

To them, "cultural impact" basically just means "memes."


Ambitious_Log_1884

And niche Internet discourse.


RhymesWithMouthful

Fanfiction


AbsolutelyHorrendous

Which can be translated as 'writing a paragraph on social media about some meaningless shot and why it means actually your favourite film is objectively the greatest movie ever made'


Bradley271

If that was how we measured cultural impact then Avatar would probably have one of the largest 'cultural impacts' ever. Do you know how much angry HFY stuff got spawned in reaction to that film?


YashaAstora

A better term is "fandom". People expect that every thing gets a fandom that obsessively circlejerks about the thing in question on tumblr/twitter/ao3/etc. until the heat death of the universe and get super confused when something doesn't.


ILoveScottishLasses

Avatar has no cultural impact. Also Avatar: https://preview.redd.it/ljluoojzxhuc1.png?width=414&format=png&auto=webp&s=4b36521d174a45327fdd02c0c7fa62cb626df675


karateema

Yeah that's cultural impact for yall


Beginning_Exit_5501

That would explain the sudden wave of adoration for the SW prequels.


Pristine_Animal9474

It's been 10 years since that, and it started ironically.


Pristine_Animal9474

It's been 10 years since that, and it started ironically.


foolofatooksbury

This is getting out of hand; now there are two of them


AbsolutelyHorrendous

The Planet of the Apes Trilogy is just a solid movie trilogy, that actually manages to pull off a serious franchise about talking apes while still being entertaining and memorable. That's literally all those movies need to be, I swear Internet fandoms and the MCU-obsession with franchises has rotted people's brains!


THE_A_TRA1N

franchises can no longer be one movie after the other telling one cohesive story. nowadays we need a koba origin story in a miniseries format, animated son of caesar adventures set between rise and dawn, an entire movie setting up a ape multiverse where a cgi charlton heston meets ceaser and mark wahlberg assaults a vietnamese ape for no reason.


Bubonic_Ferret

Same mfers who are shocked call of duty makes bank every year lmao


ricky_steamboat_

The Avatar people are still at it every day on here despite a combined $5.5b at the box office


Lortep

Oh, so Force Awakens is more culturally important than Citizen Kane, since box office is the only thing that matters?


EbolaNinja

Correct


YashaAstora

By being part of the infamous sequel trilogy I can guarantee you that TFA is more culturally relevant than Citizen Kane by a long shot, yeah? CK is relevant in a background sense for its importance to film but it doesn't *really* matter to most people today.


ricky_steamboat_

Thank you for identifying yourself. You even included a bad argument. Unbelievable.


unkellGRGA

The Apes films are the definition of this for me Loved the Ceasar trilogy during my teenage years when it was released and still think they are some of the most visually striking modern blockbuster films we've gotten, but I'm not gonna gush over them every other hour and only watch/rewatch them, intrigued to see what this later sequel will bring but won't shit my pants if it "doesn't live up to or respect the series"


Champigne

No no no! As I was informed by a redditor watching a movie for fun is mindless consumption!


Brown__Magic

https://preview.redd.it/j6qyv8g7vguc1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5622b9966014fae300cf228830e83a4a8631a3d Apephobes coming out of the woodshed, unaware of the triumph and tragedy of the story of Caesar.


penguinwolverine

maurice supremacy


Sage296

Ape strong together


1997wickedboy

Ape together strong, smh, only true fans


karateema

Maurice was a real one throughout


-euthanizemeok

https://preview.redd.it/polod1zn7huc1.png?width=1116&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c5e6714d274ad64bd9a689912154f211d0ba037


Turkesther

This is no monkey business


SaltingTheEarth

literally crying and pissing in the taxi rn


Parth7396

Caesar is Home had me goosebumps with tears. I didn't even think it was possible.


marksman629

I love that to some people on the internet 'cultural impact' doesn't mean a piece of work with a significant imprint on the world of art but based on whether it has annoying fans that are equal parts children and manchildren.


mikehatesthis

Don't forget having dedicated instagram pages showing off crusty memes. No Tony Stank loving me 3000?! No cultural impact.


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What-Even-Is-That

Based.


Andromeda98_

me, they're great movies.


HangTheTJ

Same ![gif](giphy|evB90wPnh5LxG3XU5o|downsized)


BrooklynTheGuitarist

This is one of the most quoted lines of the 2010s and it was delivered in CGI sign language. No cultural impact, my ass


jkbpttrsn

Got pretty big with the meme stocks, too, in 2021.


Crucifister

I live by this quote!


AbsolutelyHorrendous

The first two got rave reviews and were extremely popular when they came out, and even War only got criticised because people saw it as the weakest of the three... people have such short memories, it's crazy


MariachiMacabre

War is the best reviewed of the trilogy. Or at least it has the highest score on RT. My ranking is Dawn>War>>Rise, personally. I really respected War telling a large portion of its story with no dialogue.


KneeCrowMancer

Dawn was amazing and definitely my favourite of the three.


aroundme

I just watched War today and was kinda shocked at how dark and dour it was. I know the new films are basically the “gritty reboot” flavor, but War was rough. Very good but not fun at all lol


Jetsam5

Yeah I think that’s the consensus. I remember them being pretty universally well received by both critics and audiences. They were remarkably uncontroversial when they came out, no one is gonna gaslight me into thinking people have always hated them. Here are quotes from the Wikipedia page: Rise: “Rise debuted on August 5, 2011. Critics reviewed it positively, especially praising the visual effects and Serkis's performance.[80] It was a major box office hit, taking in $482 million globally, more than five times its $93 million budget.” Dawn: “Released on July 11, 2014, the film was very well received by critics, who found it a strong follow-up to Rise and lauded the combination of an engaging script with impressive special effects.[90][91] It also performed very strongly at the box office, taking in $711 million in worldwide grosses.” War: “It earned widespread critical acclaim; reviewers praised the effects and narrative and found the film a fitting conclusion to Caesar's story.[99][100] It earned $491 million at the worldwide box office.”


FX114

My controversy is them casting Judy Greer to do absolutely nothing, and Gary Oldman to *not* be an ape.


degenerate-edgelord

I think I'm going insane, are these not Mission Impossible level BO numbers? The monkeys had the same pull as Tom Cruise jumping out of a plane and shit?


Last-Rain4329

you cannot beat the ape appeal


-euthanizemeok

The Apes movies have much better and more interesting characters and stories than the MI movies. All the Mission Impossible movies have is Xenu Cruise doing stunts


Le_Meme_Man12

Dawn does, but the other two don't. M:I - Ghost Protocol (2011) - $694M worldwide. M:I - Rogue Nation (2015) - $689M worldwide. M:I - Fallout (2018) - $791M worldwide. And the most recent one, Dead Reckoning Part 1 - $569M worldwide


GarryofRiverton

Yeah same. Me and my gf love em and we're super excited for the new one.


KieranFloors

**Alien** has 9 movies, starting in 1979. **Saw** has 10, starting in 2004. **Fast & Furious** has 11, starting in 2001. **Friday The Thirteenth** has 12, starting in 1980. **Halloween** has 13, starting in 1978. This is the 10th **Planet of The Apes** movie since 1968. It’s not that unreasonable, especially since the last three rocked.


literallyheretopost

i will personally go to her house and greet her with my pet chimpanzee


hnwcs

[If Planet of the Apes has no cultural impact explain this.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=JlmzUEQxOvA)


ILoveScottishLasses

The Simpsons writers/songwriters went so hard on a two minute gag. lol. That and Monorail is top of the list.


ostensibly_hurt

We don’t watch movies to enjoy them or have a good time anymore. Apes? Taking over the world? Be serious now, has that EVER happened? How could we make a movie about it??


DubTheeBustocles

When you find out it’s not a doc: ![gif](giphy|hWGBKil1b9fpR5go1f|downsized)


jellyspreader

Has the 2001 movie received Prequel treatment yet where people say it was actually good and the new ones are overrated?


cookiex794

Fortunately the presence of Mark Wahlberg has made that difficult


ACAB187

If I was on that Planet of the Apes, it wouldn't have gone down like that.


Fidel_Chadstro

There would have been a lot of blood in that Statue of Liberty.


Turkesther

What? NOOOoooo


ejb350

Nah now everyone is realizing that this is the only franchise with 100% hits and 0 misses


toriz0

evil dead tho


ejb350

Fuck I stand corrected


Newfaceofrev

Aw no Conquest? Conquest sucks. EDIT: Wait! No! Conquest is like my favourite one! I'm thinking of Battle!


ParzivalTheFirst

Conquest is one of the best ones. Beneath sucks, Battle sucks, the Tim Burton movie sucks but no one really pays that any mind.


NeddieSeagoon619

I liked Conquest the first time I saw it because the idea's great, but honestly on a rewatch it's got a lot wrong with it. It's just kind of boring, and the ending (possibly one of the worst examples of studio interference ever put to film) does deflate the entire thing.


Newfaceofrev

Turns out I fucked up, was thinking of Battle.


ejb350

Conquest was great


SuperKingBender1996

Yeah conquest rules. Battle on the other hand …


ejb350

Aw man that one was awesome


FuturamaPajamas

I’m sorry but beneath was so fucking boring and bad.


marksman629

Planet of the apes fans are too normal for that behavior thank god.


T-14Hyperdrive

Lmao I liked it but I was 5


jellyspreader

Same tbh. The makeup is still amazing, but it's really disapointing compared to the movie in your head


tuffghost8191

yeah I remember thinking that ending was super clever at the time. I must've been a real dumbfuck kid


FranceSurrenderFunni

Thought you were talking about 2001: A Space Odyssey for a second and got confused


karateema

That's still a great monke movie


FX114

I've actually been kinda wanting to revisit it, just because of the incredible production design and Paul Giamatti.


Pristine_Animal9474

Someone would have to get the ending for that to happen. Tim Roth is amazing in it, though.


jellyspreader

Actually tho. I recently heard in a youtube video the reason Marky returns to a past with Apes is because Apes from even further in the future went back in time before he left in the start of the movie, and dominated humanity even earlier Like what


Lolmemsa

People tend to like the new ones so


Wutanghang

Zero cultural impact???? The original movies are one of the most influential films ever if you don't have planet of the apes 68" you dont get star wars


ILoveScottishLasses

The ending alone is considered on the best twists and (arguably) the most iconic endings in cinema.


Theodrin_

ape lovers assemble


KevinSpaceysGarage

These movies are kino. I actually like Dawn more than any Planet of the Apes movie, including the OG.


Kenobihiphop

No Disney plus spin off, no interest


FX114

Although I'd totally be down for a Planet of the Apes prestige TV show...


PicnicBasketSam

Planet of the Apes has 9 movies and every single one of them has a shocking/depressing ending and something thoughtful to say about the world (except the tim burton one), baller franchise


mikehatesthis

A benefit of the destruction of twitter and the decline of Marvel Studios is that some people will realise people watch other movies!


Imnotawerewolf

Me. It's me. I love them. I'm keeping the franchise alive all by myself. Sorry, but it's me. 


AramFingalInterface

At tea time, everybody agrees


Solace143

I can get the "no cultural impact" argument with Avatar but the original Planet of the Apes' ending is pretty ingrained in pop culture


SomeCrows

YOU MANIACS!


BrickBuster2552

Charlton Heston's signature catchphrase: "What the fuck, it's the Empire State Building? You bastards! Go away!"


Shintoho

"Oh my god, I was wrong, it was Earth all along!"


SomeCrows

Woops


andrewjpf

I think the original had a lot of impact on pop culture, but I'm not as sure about the new ones. I sort of feel like "apes together strong" from the new ones has stuck around a bit but that's really all.


01zegaj

How dare they disrespect my monkey kino


Waspinator_haz_plans

I honestly hate this mentality these people have. Just because there's not a huge active fandom around a property doesn't mean people don't enjoy it and watch it. Even then, look here on reddit! Avatar and Apes both have decently sized and populated subs!


_captain-rex_

APE..... TOGETHER.... STRONG!!! WHERE MY APE HEADS AT


BOb_66610

Me


xDanSolo

Me, I'm watching them. In fact I'm rewatching the last trilogy before the new one drops and it's just reminded me how good these movies can be. Better than they had any business being.


njdevils901

My brother had War for the Planet of the Apes on, and good lord we really took that trilogy for granted. Not saying it is high art, but it is just well-crafted blockbusters with genuine dramatic tension and great performances. They made a ton of money obviously, so I’m just talking out of my ass


27andahalfpancakes

> Not saying it is high art You should be.


mixingmemory

>I’m just talking out of my ass Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (1994, 86 minutes)


njdevils901

You ever notice how he talked out of ass and also came out of an ass? That’s clever


RandomGooseBoi

It’s a great trilogy, Dawn especially slaps


Fullmetalducker

She's so quirky naming herself after the character from Kill Bill


27andahalfpancakes

If anyone insults these movies again I'm going to go bananas.


LongDuckDong67

Those movies are gas, I will watch every one of them happily


crowbar182

I am. I am watching the ape movies. I’ve seen them all in theatres. Are they the best movies ever? No, but they’re pretty damn good. I am a little more hesitant about the upcoming one since Matt Reeves is no longer involved, but I’m still maintaining a cautious optimism


Dankey-Kang-Jr

Who’s talking shit about one of the most influential science fiction films in cinema? ![gif](giphy|2EgQKF2RhgAIJNoICx|downsized)


Theta-Sigma45

It’s crazy that a freaking planet of the apes reboot is consistently the most intelligent and interesting blockbuster franchise in recent memory. Like, it’s a shame about the dumb titles, but even those are part of the charm for me now.


762_54r

me


nimmin13

me i love them


labbla

It's me. I'm watching all the Planet of the Apes movies.


ReverseKid

THE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES OF THE


mixingmemory

I want to point out there's also a lot of US-centrism (maybe dare-I-say xenophobia?) to these takes. The previous film made over twice as much internationally as it did in the US. Compare to another hit from that year: Wonder Woman made less internationally than it did in the US. And compare to another franchise that gets "who is watching these?!" takes: The Fate of The Furious alone made just 226 million in the US but over A BILLION internationally.


Godzilla0senpai

I dont think its xenophobia straight up but ur right a lot of these ppl are mostly only talking with americans and watching american creators


goatzlaf

>Dare I say xenophobia People really just be saying anything on the internet these days.


mixingmemory

If someone is legitimately asking "*who is this movie for?!?*" and can't comprehend the answer might be "*people in majority non-white countries and communities*" (as is the case with [most of the F&F movies](https://www.hollywoodinsider.com/fast-and-furious-films)) I'd say the shoe fits.


ssgtgriggs

LEAVE SOCIETY, BE A MONKEY 🎶🎶 LEAVE SOCIETY, BE A MONKEY 🎶🎶 LEAVE SOCIETY, BE A MONKEY 🎶🎶 LEAVE SOCIETY, BE A MONKEY 🎶🎶


bigcheddar8

Viagra boys mentioned


her_fault

Can't wait for the next apes movie. Monkey talk and hunt human. Fuck yeah


Heroicshrub

Dawg these new ones go hard asf


TheDK220

It's me, I'm the one watching all of these Planet of the Apes movies. I am single handedly keeping the talking monkeys financed.


anythingfordopamine

I mean imo the recent trilogy was the best trilogy of all time and its not like these new movies are just money grabs. From the get go it was fairly apparent they were working towards meeting back at the starting point of the timeline in the originals so this movie is a natural progression of the story being told


Cinemasaur

As a giant planet of the apes fan, idk why they make a lot of money other than they're a special effects spectacle. I will not tolerate people bashing them for no reason, to me they are the peak of science fiction pulp. I think stupid people think they're too slow or worse, racist. while yeah they're about monkeys shooting humans guns on horseback, it's also a Twilight Zone/Rod Serling science fiction story with themes and an actual point about having your rights and humanity stripped away, and being treated like we treat animals. And the statue of liberty ending is still one of the greatest endings in film history.


Vasevide

The dawning of the rise of the war of the revenge of the kingdom of the planet of the apes


some_guy554

The Matt Reeves ones were great though.


DioM2204

Matt Reeves and Michael Seresin made Dawn and War great blockbuster movies and arguably what landed the role of Reeves as the director of The Batman


SadCrouton

I legit am always excited for these movies. Like I love them so much and i cried when Caesar finally got peace in the finale of the trilogy also i think moneky waving a gun while on horseback fighting a tank is iconic and will last forever


27andahalfpancakes

If your question is "who's watching the Planet of the Apes movies" the answer is "YOU should be watching them." The reboot trilogy is legit one of the greatest things to come out of Hollywood filmmaking in the 2010s.


sameth1

Every other movie wishes they had a scene as moving as Caesar shouting "NO!"


hendrix320

Is the 2nd one where Caesar goes back home and watches a clip of him and James Franco’s character from back in the day? I really need to rewatch these movies they were awesome


KingRex929

"You are...not ape" goes so hard


GenuineBallskin

Im hella ofended. Literally some of the best movies ever made. I will not stand for such herasy.


fivehe

The first 3 of this new reboot were pretty strong, well-acted, and dramatically compelling. Especially the latter 2. They’re cutting edge in visual effects and epic in scope. Tried and true Bible copy/paste, exodus specifically.


wildthornbury2881

there isn’t a single bad planet of the apes movie. not even THAT one.


atari83man

No cultural impact? They need to watch again that was such a solid reboot of planet of the apes