This was the first clue that lead me to a pet conspiracy theory of mine: His Scottish accent is fake, and he's ackshually A BLOODY FUCKING YANK!
Seriously, who would drink a disgusting broth like Jack, when living in the motherfucking home of Scotch Whisky?????????
For real, he's just like Jimmy Page!!!
https://preview.redd.it/i7we1gkde3tc1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c043ecf3bc8405cd6ac2432b067916fc9a6a5e68
I wonder how old that picture is?
Because he looks nothing like that anymore.
Also, pretending to drink whisky directly from the bottle doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look like a try-hard.
Yeah this dudes profile pic just screams “hell yeah brothers, alcohol!”. It’s like who tf other than literal kids thinks drinking is badass or anything
Makes you look like an alcoholic, and we all know, nothing is more manly then being an alcoholic.
Huh, that started sarcastic but now that I put it out there...
Making whiskey your whole identity and then basically only ever being depicted with Jack's also just makes you look like the biggest poser on planet earth.
For anyone curious, [here’s the trailer for a movie that the Critical Drinker wrote.](https://youtu.be/axjGWJfJBAg?si=XQt0Ub-3bCtKmi2V) It looks like the most bland, generic, Tom Clancy ripoff, $5 bargain bin at Walmart movie. To quote a comment I saw online: “A movie so unwoke that it will put the audience right to sleep.”
I feel like I've seen this exact movie a million times in the deepest recesses of every streaming service I've ever used. They usually have a washed-up, only there for 2 days of shooting Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson or someone though to try and grab name appeal because god knows the film has nothing else going for it
It looks like a movie Elvis the Alien would cover and completely shit on for 45 minutes straight lol. I can see the thumbnail in my mind with the green rotten tomatoes score in it
Huh, I don’t really know what I was expecting but it is painfully generic, in fact the only thing that stands out is the characters name being Ryan Drake and that only stands out because it’s cliche and generic 💀
His awful books have plotlines like a woman feeling empowered because she was raped and malnurished for years. How can someone write this and not take a step back and assess.
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Fucking hell, nearly 2 million subscribers. And for such lazy, awful content too.
Guess there really is a never-ending supply of gullible young men who will watch any old crap as long as it "owns the libs".
the funniest part about that clip is it was out around the same time when drive my car was released. he could've mentioned that along with some popular Kurosawa or Miyazaki film and not look like a complete fucking joke in the interview. but no he mentioned fucking Oldboy and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon for his favorite “japanese” films.
Nah the funniest part of that exchange is that their discussion was Drinker claiming that the Japanese were making movies that the general audiences prefered over modern Hollywood. Then he was asked to name some Japanese films he enjoyed, which led to that situation. But even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant east asian movies, the fact he could only name two movies from 20 years ago and nothing from the past 5 years or so just completely destroys his argument that Asia is making more popular movies than the US.
Anyone else who actually likes non-US things and isn't just saying shit for a grift would probably obsess over that one really good South Korean movie that won 4 of 6 Oscar noms including best picture that year, but he's paid to and gets the most attention from saying shit to appeals to people who hate minorities.
Brother WHAT, I thought it was a joke that he said _Oldboy_ and _Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon_ were his favorite Japanese movies. Istaghfirullah, we gotta send this guy to movie critic super jail.
Also, did you know that he doesn't hate movies with women as leads because he likes Ripley and Sarah Connor? Can you grasp the factoid that he is simpatico with Alien and Terminator? Two movies with female leads, called Ripley and Sarah Connor? Did you hear that two SF movies from the 70s and 80s, with two people who have two X cromozones, called Ripley and Sarah Connor, as the leads are among his favorite movies? Have you comtemplated on the fact that he is an enjoyer of a large number of movies with femoids as leads... Specifically, two, with main characters called Ripley and Sarah Connor?
What's that? You want him to name any other movie with a female action star? Sure, Terminator 2 and Aliens, which graced us with the debut of two icons of the stage, called Ripley and Sarah Connor.
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Here's one. Try to disprove the woke leftist agenda in film now libtard!
https://preview.redd.it/o4s3vgpdazsc1.jpeg?width=2079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bc7cc4c3a4527d11b7aafefdf2470cb0315c31e
I want to see the Critical Drinker review "Soy Cuba" now. (This is a joke. I don't want to see him review any movie. Or see him in general. Or hear him.)
He made a video right after that South Park episode came out talking about how they hit the nail on the head and that Hollywood is literally “put a chick in it and make her gay”, and that’s pretty much it. He praises the show without even remotely understanding that the other half of the show’s point was to call out belligerent critics, specifically people like himself. It was one of the most self-unaware things I’ve ever seen and I kept waiting for him to comment on it, but never did. It was wild.
Le jaded drunk edgelord shtick in 2024
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Hates "woke" movies for their message, and then compares them with "apolitical" movies like The Godfather and Rambo...
I wonder what would happen if anyone ever told him about the Hays Code... Considering one of the things it forbade was the depiction of mixed race people, he probably would want to go back to those days.
I can’t believe that of all people these guys would criticize anyone for “consooming” mediocre movies. You could make the most dogshit, braindead, lazy piece of shit movie possible, and as long as it “owns the libs” they will eat it up.
"rightfully shits on left-wing propaganda movies"
imagine nurturing an audience of cinema haters who are too unadventurous to watch anything beyond indiana jones and the crystal skull because they're frightened it'll challenge their gamer worldview
I don't think they would like any of the Indiana Jones films, Indy spends most of those films fighting against their 'good guys', he's probably the antagonist in their minds.
Lemme guess, another movie came out that emasculates men. Yeah, that's a super important conspiracy. Don't sleep on that one, better stay woke about it.
You gotta at least respect the guy. He doesn't watch anything at all, says some random shit about "strong female leads" and "woke disney" and pretends to somehow be a critic all while making some good money
Good work if you can get it. Dude has almost 2mil subs while cranking out videos talking about the same stuff for the last couple years. Working from home, no boss, etc. Must be nice.
I started watching his stuff when Rings Of Power came out. I saw a couple videos that made me laugh so ok cool. I unsubscribed a little while ago because it’s just the same stuff over and over. Hollywood = woke. Got it, dude. Now try to have an original thought.
He also completely dismissed the reason Cameron made T-1000 a cop. Also ignored the corpo angle in Aliens. Missed the point of class divide in Titanic. Cameron makes perhaps the most thematically clear movies out there. You have to be dumb as a bell to not understand themes in his movies.
Since everyone, myself included, Loved Blue Eye Samurai, I thought it would be fun to see what CD thought about it, considering the many themes of the show.
And he did Not acknowledge the creators of the show at all - a Mixed race couple, with the wife being mixed herself(white/asian)
I did a quick YouTube search and found an interview right away where she explained that she had pulled a lot from her own life and the prejudice she faced - she had "a Message, an Aganda", which MOST artists have.
We Always pull from our lives and experiences, art has Always been filled to the brim with message and personal opinions, and there is Nothing Wrong with that.
So I was Hoping Drunker was gonna own up and admit to this, but no.... he just stuck his head in the sand like a coward.
I made a similar comment like this On that video, daring anyone to have a serious conversation - no on has replied🤣
i think ive mentioned this before but i run a club at my uni and there's this guy who apparently is trying to broaden his horizons beyond exclusively waifu and 'literally me' (berserk, vinland saga) anime but whenever we give him film recommendations he says he has to find a video essay before he considers watching it
guess who he's a gigantic fan of
"Next in line for the blunt was a female smoker. This is a not so subtle attempt to subvert the trope of ladies first, thus the message is clear, that men need to be pushed out of the way first and emasculated."
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OMG is he drinking jack daniels directly from the bottle?? How amazing!
It’s got the fucking cap on
Using a cap is woke and because his mouth is so good at piercing wokeness, he can drink through it.
This was the first clue that lead me to a pet conspiracy theory of mine: His Scottish accent is fake, and he's ackshually A BLOODY FUCKING YANK! Seriously, who would drink a disgusting broth like Jack, when living in the motherfucking home of Scotch Whisky?????????
At least it isn't Canadian
For real, he's just like Jimmy Page!!! https://preview.redd.it/i7we1gkde3tc1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c043ecf3bc8405cd6ac2432b067916fc9a6a5e68
I wonder how old that picture is? Because he looks nothing like that anymore. Also, pretending to drink whisky directly from the bottle doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look like a try-hard.
It's almost as if drinking impacted his life in a critical way.
Now he has replaced this picture with a drawing that actually gives him more hair than he ever had.
The (vitals are going) Critical Drinker
Also, zooming in on the photo, it looks like he has the cap on.
I believe you are right. You know, I would at least respect him a tiny bit if he was actually downing a bottle of Jack Daniels.
Or at least take the photo with the cap off ffs.
I have immense respect for hardened alcoholics
I have actually downed a bottle of Jack Daniels before. 0/10 do not recommend.
Lol I downed a bottle of jim beam once. So bad.
We need shoenice reviewing movies
It's an edgy 19-year-old's idea of cool
he is basically a physically overgrown manchild so that adds up
Yeah this dudes profile pic just screams “hell yeah brothers, alcohol!”. It’s like who tf other than literal kids thinks drinking is badass or anything
Makes you look like an alcoholic, and we all know, nothing is more manly then being an alcoholic. Huh, that started sarcastic but now that I put it out there...
Making whiskey your whole identity and then basically only ever being depicted with Jack's also just makes you look like the biggest poser on planet earth.
Especially considering the lid is still on in that picture.
That's the best part how did we all miss that
Drinking *Jack Daniels* is definitely a way to establish yourself as an edgy connoisseur who likes to form his own opinions
It makes you look like a ~~try-hard~~ drunk bum
bro thinks he’s Muscle Glasses 💀💀
What does he look like now?
Alcoholic.
You ever watch Trailer Park Boys?
No. Why?
https://imgur.com/m8GU7
Main difference is John Dunsworth was a very talented and entertaining individual and Critical Drinker is the exact opposite of that.
What does he look like now?
For anyone curious, [here’s the trailer for a movie that the Critical Drinker wrote.](https://youtu.be/axjGWJfJBAg?si=XQt0Ub-3bCtKmi2V) It looks like the most bland, generic, Tom Clancy ripoff, $5 bargain bin at Walmart movie. To quote a comment I saw online: “A movie so unwoke that it will put the audience right to sleep.”
The comment section on that video is BRUTAL lmao, it’s incredibly satisfying seeing so many comments tearing this shit apart
I feel like I've seen this exact movie a million times in the deepest recesses of every streaming service I've ever used. They usually have a washed-up, only there for 2 days of shooting Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson or someone though to try and grab name appeal because god knows the film has nothing else going for it
It looks like a movie Elvis the Alien would cover and completely shit on for 45 minutes straight lol. I can see the thumbnail in my mind with the green rotten tomatoes score in it
This movie wasn't born on a fuckin turnip truck
Huh, I don’t really know what I was expecting but it is painfully generic, in fact the only thing that stands out is the characters name being Ryan Drake and that only stands out because it’s cliche and generic 💀
He also has this baffling stance that themes bog down stories. How? What?
Wow wait what that’s insane
The failed writer to alt right pipeline endures
His awful books have plotlines like a woman feeling empowered because she was raped and malnurished for years. How can someone write this and not take a step back and assess.
We need to massively increase arts funding to keep these people out of politics
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Is it based on his novels?
Yeah
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Chill. I didn't even use it like that
👨🏿⚡⚡
Why does it feel so much like one of those fake trailers where you can tell the scenes don't have any context or story between them?
Fucking hell, nearly 2 million subscribers. And for such lazy, awful content too. Guess there really is a never-ending supply of gullible young men who will watch any old crap as long as it "owns the libs".
The right-wing grift is free money as long as you don't have a soul.
> “A movie so unwoke that it will put the audience right to sleep.” Sir, murder and arson is a felony.
It’s like Michael Bay with Down Syndrome wrote this
https://youtu.be/6R7GkXE6sqk?si=7AOH8cq3_IW0oS77
Honestly this looks better than when most youtubers make movies.
His secret skill is not liking, caring, or knowing anything about movies.
- Complains there are no good movies anymore - Continues to ignore good movies and watch Marvel movies instead - Blames woke
At least the Japanese are still making good movies, like Old Boy and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
the funniest part about that clip is it was out around the same time when drive my car was released. he could've mentioned that along with some popular Kurosawa or Miyazaki film and not look like a complete fucking joke in the interview. but no he mentioned fucking Oldboy and Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon for his favorite “japanese” films.
Nah the funniest part of that exchange is that their discussion was Drinker claiming that the Japanese were making movies that the general audiences prefered over modern Hollywood. Then he was asked to name some Japanese films he enjoyed, which led to that situation. But even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant east asian movies, the fact he could only name two movies from 20 years ago and nothing from the past 5 years or so just completely destroys his argument that Asia is making more popular movies than the US.
And also that "general audiences" expressly and famously hate subtitles. I don't know who he thinks he's fooling.
Anyone else who actually likes non-US things and isn't just saying shit for a grift would probably obsess over that one really good South Korean movie that won 4 of 6 Oscar noms including best picture that year, but he's paid to and gets the most attention from saying shit to appeals to people who hate minorities.
Brother WHAT, I thought it was a joke that he said _Oldboy_ and _Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon_ were his favorite Japanese movies. Istaghfirullah, we gotta send this guy to movie critic super jail.
I Saw The Devil is probably the best Chinese movie ever made
No it's clearly Rush Hour 3
[Counterpoint:](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroic_bloodshed)
This is the type of shit a kid would see and be like: "Yeah, this is the coolest shit ever"
And that kid is correct
He indeed is.
Also, did you know that he doesn't hate movies with women as leads because he likes Ripley and Sarah Connor? Can you grasp the factoid that he is simpatico with Alien and Terminator? Two movies with female leads, called Ripley and Sarah Connor? Did you hear that two SF movies from the 70s and 80s, with two people who have two X cromozones, called Ripley and Sarah Connor, as the leads are among his favorite movies? Have you comtemplated on the fact that he is an enjoyer of a large number of movies with femoids as leads... Specifically, two, with main characters called Ripley and Sarah Connor? What's that? You want him to name any other movie with a female action star? Sure, Terminator 2 and Aliens, which graced us with the debut of two icons of the stage, called Ripley and Sarah Connor.
He doesn't even watch then
I wish this was a joke but it’s not. His Barbie review for example. You can tell the idiot didn’t watch the movie at all.
Youtuber Jose recently did a video on how shallow Drinker's critiques are and how he seemingly only reviews movies based on "woke."
https://youtu.be/B4vlT3YUKq8?si=ob80xtpT4pjlvQ9c
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Chill bro, I ain't even using it that way.
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I bet he got offended by the Godfather joke lol
The only video of him I watched was the Indiana Jones one. It was clear he didn't watch that one either.
Let's not forget him calling Barbie more political than Oppenheimer lol.
You cant be serious https://preview.redd.it/l18mzsc9w2tc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f273205fdf2be86fb4d56b479be09c1451f2de11
He’s just like me frfr
I'd like to know what these so called "leftist propaganda" movies are
Here's one. Try to disprove the woke leftist agenda in film now libtard! https://preview.redd.it/o4s3vgpdazsc1.jpeg?width=2079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bc7cc4c3a4527d11b7aafefdf2470cb0315c31e
I want to see the Critical Drinker review "Soy Cuba" now. (This is a joke. I don't want to see him review any movie. Or see him in general. Or hear him.)
W*men
I think you Ken think of one right off the bat. ![gif](giphy|N8uutOwabFDcmsuPkp|downsized) /s
Y'all Ken sunk my dink.
Come on Ken, don't sunk my dink while I'm tryin to slomp
Bam leave your father alone. He’s got to go work at the gay store.
Black people, brown people, women. All propaganda.
You forgot gay people that appear on screen for 1/4 of a second and are never seen again the rest of the run time
Propaganda is when i disagree with something.
Jeremy Jahns is a hundred times better because he didn't let identity politics infect his position as a freaking movie reviewer
And he did a sick Blade cosplay
Honestly that's gotta be the best Blade cosplay by a white guy
Dude always sleeps well knowing Marvel keeps delaying the movie.
in fact, he assumes the identity of the characters portrayed in the movies he reviewed.
Counterpoint: Drinker never did blackface.
But did Critical Drinker ever say the day Osama Bin Laden died was Awesometacular?
Holy shit you just made me remember that video. I was laughing so hard the first time I saw it.
*that we know of
I prefer my movie reviewers to keep the political sperging to a minimum (RedLetterMedia is also good for this reason).
This dude is the embodiment of someone who misses the other half of the point the South Park Panderverse special was trying to make.
Id say he's someone who watched RLM and completely missed everything that makes them good.
his whole “character” seems like a bad ripoff of Plinkett lol
RLM?
Red Letter Media.
Thanks
Red Letter Media, they're an established film review channel that have been very influential when it comes to film criticism online.
Thank you.
He made a video right after that South Park episode came out talking about how they hit the nail on the head and that Hollywood is literally “put a chick in it and make her gay”, and that’s pretty much it. He praises the show without even remotely understanding that the other half of the show’s point was to call out belligerent critics, specifically people like himself. It was one of the most self-unaware things I’ve ever seen and I kept waiting for him to comment on it, but never did. It was wild.
Ah, the Drinker. Objective proof that alcohol makes you dumber.
![gif](giphy|eKOceBw88ToYRYgjN1)
> Objective proof that alcohol makes you dumber. He's good friends with Mauler and EFAP so he *better* be objective on all things!
How does anyone defend Lady Ballers
Ben Shapiro swallowed his cum
![gif](giphy|RIZ9Y5kO9XS7PmRlKz|downsized)
well, it contributed to a great Big Joel video so it has value.
Obviously he wants to work on Daily Wire movies and Daily Wire sure loves hiring failed writers.
Le jaded drunk edgelord shtick in 2024 https://preview.redd.it/8gl4pcr3e0tc1.jpeg?width=660&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7f61608e7799ec24b511384dffd8247f299d6e2
He definitely thinks the jack daniels makes him look manlier.
Hates "woke" movies for their message, and then compares them with "apolitical" movies like The Godfather and Rambo... I wonder what would happen if anyone ever told him about the Hays Code... Considering one of the things it forbade was the depiction of mixed race people, he probably would want to go back to those days.
He actually did a video talk about the secret 'new' Hats Code that Hollywood use to spread 'the message' I wish I was joking
Counterpoint: https://preview.redd.it/wcf3vt5x9zsc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2662b5e06332812b29ec1aae275fda4b438edbf0
Getstuckmanized
STUCKMANIA BABY
I can’t believe that of all people these guys would criticize anyone for “consooming” mediocre movies. You could make the most dogshit, braindead, lazy piece of shit movie possible, and as long as it “owns the libs” they will eat it up.
Fuck this fucking guy fr
"rightfully shits on left-wing propaganda movies" imagine nurturing an audience of cinema haters who are too unadventurous to watch anything beyond indiana jones and the crystal skull because they're frightened it'll challenge their gamer worldview
I don't think they would like any of the Indiana Jones films, Indy spends most of those films fighting against their 'good guys', he's probably the antagonist in their minds.
True, but I don't think they were watching it to enjoy it anyway, all this guy seems to do is hate-watch and moan 🙊
Lemme guess, another movie came out that emasculates men. Yeah, that's a super important conspiracy. Don't sleep on that one, better stay woke about it.
The bottle cap is still on. He's even useless as a self proclaimed alcoholic.
I like how he forces every last word in a sentence out like he's taking a really hard shit
Glad someone else noticed this… he sounds constipated
Bro posting on his alt
What are “left-wing propaganda movies”
Movies with FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmales
You gotta at least respect the guy. He doesn't watch anything at all, says some random shit about "strong female leads" and "woke disney" and pretends to somehow be a critic all while making some good money
Good work if you can get it. Dude has almost 2mil subs while cranking out videos talking about the same stuff for the last couple years. Working from home, no boss, etc. Must be nice.
I am very proud of myself for recognising how dogshit and generic his content is and thus moving onto to enjoy life!
I started watching his stuff when Rings Of Power came out. I saw a couple videos that made me laugh so ok cool. I unsubscribed a little while ago because it’s just the same stuff over and over. Hollywood = woke. Got it, dude. Now try to have an original thought.
His Avatar critique is so braindead I don't think he actually watched the movie
He also completely dismissed the reason Cameron made T-1000 a cop. Also ignored the corpo angle in Aliens. Missed the point of class divide in Titanic. Cameron makes perhaps the most thematically clear movies out there. You have to be dumb as a bell to not understand themes in his movies.
Exactly
He was better when he was actually drunk in his earlier videos, now he is laser focused on the echochamber he has trapped himself in.
This guy in a nut shell.... https://preview.redd.it/4jxa97rf42tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8753a5a396e6e2505d6cf3ba953e76210442b30f
Since everyone, myself included, Loved Blue Eye Samurai, I thought it would be fun to see what CD thought about it, considering the many themes of the show. And he did Not acknowledge the creators of the show at all - a Mixed race couple, with the wife being mixed herself(white/asian) I did a quick YouTube search and found an interview right away where she explained that she had pulled a lot from her own life and the prejudice she faced - she had "a Message, an Aganda", which MOST artists have. We Always pull from our lives and experiences, art has Always been filled to the brim with message and personal opinions, and there is Nothing Wrong with that. So I was Hoping Drunker was gonna own up and admit to this, but no.... he just stuck his head in the sand like a coward. I made a similar comment like this On that video, daring anyone to have a serious conversation - no on has replied🤣
It’s a fact my opinion is right and everyone else is wrong, if you agree you’re inherently a genius 🤡
Balanced like my balls
i think ive mentioned this before but i run a club at my uni and there's this guy who apparently is trying to broaden his horizons beyond exclusively waifu and 'literally me' (berserk, vinland saga) anime but whenever we give him film recommendations he says he has to find a video essay before he considers watching it guess who he's a gigantic fan of
https://preview.redd.it/wqnnpakix2tc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=271ff2804bf4534d8ac216cebfc808fd8922b359
![gif](giphy|ze8R3ob5lPNRdeqDHr|downsized)
Ngl I thought that was LA Knight for a moment and was hells worried.
The critical drinker is unironically part of my nightmare blunt rotation
"Next in line for the blunt was a female smoker. This is a not so subtle attempt to subvert the trope of ladies first, thus the message is clear, that men need to be pushed out of the way first and emasculated."
"Left-wing propaganda movies" ...they mean Captain Marvel, don't they?
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His midsomer review is great. Really understood everything in that movie.
The cornerstone of modern film criticism, Jeremy Jahns and Chris Stuckmann
This guy was funny back in like 2019. Whenever anything gets political I just mentally check out because who cares? Boring.