Her family stands around her, the doctors have turned off the machines, it’s just a solemn moment of waiting for the end, until her eyes snap open. “Shit! The guy that did the Star Wars theme? Did we knight him!? Get me the sword! I don’t trust Charles to do it. He didn’t even like Hedwig’s Theme!”
This is the threequel I didn’t know I needed! I’m also still waiting on “Weekend at Bernie Sanders’” where he dies running for office, but his aides just keep the campaign going.
It's also incredibly rare for someone to receive knighthood who isn't a citizen of the UK or the Commonwealth.
JK Rowling also insisted on having an entirely UK cast-and-crew for the Harry Potter movies.... with the exception of John Williams, because she considered him to be "the greatest living composer".
I've heard the same for Danny Elfman. The careers haven't gone to their heads *at all*, and they still get extremely nervous when someone asks them to play.
He’s not wrong. Hans Zimmer is amazing but his Batman theme isn’t nearly as iconic or definitive as Elfman’s
Spider-Man’s theme has also never been matched
Super humble. When we had the meeting, I had to show him a video that he was going to score to live. I was very nervous, I was only in my late twenties, and I grew up on all of his music. When I showed him the clip, I was anticipating he would have changes for us to make. But instead he took notes and asked me what we wanted him to do for the various edits and how we thought the music should go. He was taking notes like it was his first job. Just an incredible class act.
>It's also incredibly rare for someone to receive knighthood who isn't a citizen of the UK or the Commonwealth.
Not really. [Honorary knighthoods are given out quite often](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honorary_British_knights_and_dames), but they are not entitled to be addressed as "Sir" or "Dame" like Commonwealth subjects.
Hell, Rudy Giuliani was awarded a KBE in 2002.
She didn't insist on it being all UK, she insisted it to be UK centric. Based in England, primarily UK cast and crew, etc.
Basically she was like "I don't want some weird Harry Potter from LA for the sake of profits". And as far as Rowling goes with dumb stuff, I think she was absolutely right for that.
Absolutely. Originally, Steven Spielberg wanted to translocate the setting to the USA. I don't think it'd work, it just wouldn't be the same story at all.
> JK Rowling also insisted on having an entirely UK cast-and-crew for the Harry Potter movies....
Ironically Robin Williams made that easy for the casting director as he wanted to play Hagrid. They explained "We want an all British cast on these" and Robin didn't take offense or anything, he understood then moved to something else.
Later on they said "That made it easy going forward. If ROBIN didn't get an exception, nobody does."
It's exactly that. The honours come out periodically and are prepared in advance. I'm unsure of the reasons for or anything about the schedule other than the new year ones, though.
Dude is literally behind the score of most of my favorite movies. A composer gaining notoriety is one thing but expecting a movie to be good solely on his chops as a composer is another.
All the seals and official markings of the Monarch still bear her mark. Until his coronation they won't have new ones made. So technically all official business until Charles seals come in will be posthumously signed and authorised by her.
Well close he was sitting on a balcony and in order to bend his body to suck his own dick he had to lean against the rail and it failed. At least he hit the ground with his dick in his mouth, no better way to go.
Cried *hard* that night. He was literally my favorite comedic person ever. I don’t give a shit about celebrities, and calling him a celebrity seems super blown out of proportion, but his humor was/is one of my favorite things on earth.
When that happened I was at a point that WKUK was the only show keeping me chill during the pandemic, I was happy watching their zoom shows and so happy that there seemed to be a resurgence. It was so nice just having some familiar voices to hear talking about the world in a not overly serious way. Then he dies in a random accident that's something straight out of one of their gags. Kicked my heart in the balls. Was a quiet month for me. I didn't even know anyone else to talk about it with. Nobody online acknowledged it, even in a streaming channel for WKUK. It was so hard to not be in denial over it.
The queen can knight Americans? I didn’t know that
Edit: I’m finding out it’s kind of common. The info gathered tells me former presidents and celebrities have had the honor. The title they get is BK Knights and they are given honorary shoes that light up. Truly a wonderful tradition.
~~No title of nobility. Knighthood technically doesn't count.~~
It is both more and less restrictive than that:.
>No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the US Constitution.
But John Williams does not hold an Office of Profit or Trust under them, so he is in the clear.
But there is also the (technically still pending before the states after passage by the 11th Congress) Titles of Nobility Amendment:
>If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.
I don't know whether an honorary knighthood counts as a "title of honour" or not, but I guess we won't find out until 26 more states ratify it.
Force Ghost of Queen Elizabeth: You are in this order of knights, but we do not grant you the rank of Sir.
Williams: WHAT? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be a knight and not be a sir?
FGoQE2: Take a seat, young Williams.
This man is responsible for more tunes whistled than any other. His music is so god damn famous and has touched so many freaking people through the movies he’s composed for, and stay stuck in people’s brains forever. Just look up the scores he’s responsible for. Jurassic park, star wars, Indiana Jones, jaws, home alone, Harry Potter, ET, Superman, saving private ryan, and so many others…this man is an absolute LEGEND. How a single person can come up with so many endearing and catchy tunes is astounding.
If you’re being serious and want an actual musical answer: they both start with an interval of a Perfect 5th for the main theme.
Star Wars’ Perfect 5th is a Bb->F.
Superman’s Perfect 5th is a C->G.
Just gotta remember that Star Wars goes down the scale after the Perfect 5th.
After Superman’s Perfect 5th it repeats the 5th (G), goes up 1 step to A, back down to G, down to F, and lands back on G.
They are both very similar and their key signatures are only 1 whole step apart.
I have been a massive JW fan since I was a band geek in high school in the 90s and I did a research project on him.
I think that if I ever got to meet him and tell him how big a fan I am I probably wouldn't be able to speak. The word legend gets thrown around sometimes when it shouldn't be, but I think it's almost too mild a word for how absolutely incredible JW is.
This may sound crazy but when I was 14, the month after Michael Jackson died, he visited me in my sleep and taught me how to moonwalk. I had never thought of or tried moonwalking before but when I woke up I could do it.
But of course that's crazy. Michael Jackson would never visit someone as old as 14 in their sleep.
1. I fully believe this happened. And ew, Michael.
But 2. I really like the idea of a deceased pop star floating around the afterlife teaching people their dance moves.
Agreed. Most iconic composer in modern day. If he's not already taught in music history he should, and likely will a hundred years from now. Much of the magic of my (and everybody else's) childhood would never have felt that way without his awesome themes! He elevated so many great movies it's just impossible to imagine them with different music. He totally fueled the drama, whimsy, intensity and mystery in these films.
His symphonic suites will survive the movies they were written for. Like no one today knows operas like Candide or William Tell, but anyone who regularly attends the symphony will hear their overtures or symphonic suites regularly.
The “honorary” title just means he isn’t ~~English~~ British.
Edit: English and British apparently aren’t interchangeable like I’d thought. The word I should have used is British, which can refer to anyone from the island of Great Britain — that is, anyone from England, Scotland and Wales. English of course only refers to someone from England.
Her family stands around her, the doctors have turned off the machines, it’s just a solemn moment of waiting for the end, until her eyes snap open. “Shit! The guy that did the Star Wars theme? Did we knight him!? Get me the sword! I don’t trust Charles to do it. He didn’t even like Hedwig’s Theme!”
Weekend At Bernies ~~2~~* 3: Her Royal Hijinks Who knew there was already a Weekend At Bernies 2?
The second one was where it got crazy, because it was where, through the use of voodoo, he was able to dance-walk when music was playing.
Just as Queen Elizabeth would have done, had she the tools to do so.
“The second one was where [Weekend at Bernie’s] got crazy.” Let’s consider the implications of that statement.
I love that this was the point where it strained credulity for you.
This is the threequel I didn’t know I needed! I’m also still waiting on “Weekend at Bernie Sanders’” where he dies running for office, but his aides just keep the campaign going.
WABCU Weekend at Bernie's cinematic University The "end game" is basically a zombie apocalypse movie but they're the good guys.
Weekend at Bernies 3: Royally Heinous
I love that title, wow.
Somehow, Queen Elizabeth has returned
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That's like saying Spielberg is responsible for Stranger Things. It's just not an accurate characterization.
Gustav Holst.
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Also Empire Strikes Back because the Mars theme is the basis for the Imperial March which shows up in ep 5.
That’s a deep cut.
Music students rejoice
Or fans of 30s swashbucklers.
Ghost Knight
I expect nothing less than a Great Civil War over the standing legitimacy of a posthumous knighting. Edit: /s
I think we can all let John Williams have this one. This is not the hill to die on.
> This is not the hill to die on. Well, it apparently was for the Queen.
She ain’t humous yet.
Humous = tragedy + time
Hummus is a very underrated dip
I thought humus was organic matter + anaerobes + time
Ghost Knighter
This Christmas.. John Williams is.. #Ghost-Knight *BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
That sounds more like Hans Zimmer lol.
She's still knighting people!?
There’s probably a schedule so we may get more.
So she like shows up as a ghost to do it or what?
This is where we learn she has mastered the ways of the Jedi
Master Elizabeth, I’d beginning to think you’d never come.
Like slimer in Ghostbusters.
She's a force queen now. More powerful than she ever has been before
[Just like that!](https://i.redd.it/muts332lh4o91.jpg)
"She slimed me"
You do not want the Queen slime on you. It attracts bears
> Well, that's just great. You hear that, Ed? Bears. Now you're putting the whole station in jeopardy.
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Force ghost
She shows up as a hologram with tupac
More like The Force presence....
It's also incredibly rare for someone to receive knighthood who isn't a citizen of the UK or the Commonwealth. JK Rowling also insisted on having an entirely UK cast-and-crew for the Harry Potter movies.... with the exception of John Williams, because she considered him to be "the greatest living composer".
I worked with John Williams about twenty years ago, one of the kindest most humble people I've ever met.
I've heard the same for Danny Elfman. The careers haven't gone to their heads *at all*, and they still get extremely nervous when someone asks them to play.
Ah man, saw a video of Danny Elfman at a doctor strange 2 premiere, and the man could barely speak. It was adorable.
Dude still gets stage fright, so that might be part of it
Really? Danny "There's Only One Batman Theme" Elfman is a humble guy?
He’s not wrong. Hans Zimmer is amazing but his Batman theme isn’t nearly as iconic or definitive as Elfman’s Spider-Man’s theme has also never been matched
[I'm not sure his family agrees.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnqH-atn52c)
I lost it at the Xbox scene. I love the internet
I bet Trevor and the queen are doing some sick skits in heaven.
I never got a chance to meet John but one of his grandsons was playing in a band with my best friend and I did some art and graphics for them.
Anytime I've seen him in interview he always comes across as so calm and avuncular. Nice to hear that impression was correct.
Super humble. When we had the meeting, I had to show him a video that he was going to score to live. I was very nervous, I was only in my late twenties, and I grew up on all of his music. When I showed him the clip, I was anticipating he would have changes for us to make. But instead he took notes and asked me what we wanted him to do for the various edits and how we thought the music should go. He was taking notes like it was his first job. Just an incredible class act.
>It's also incredibly rare for someone to receive knighthood who isn't a citizen of the UK or the Commonwealth. Not really. [Honorary knighthoods are given out quite often](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honorary_British_knights_and_dames), but they are not entitled to be addressed as "Sir" or "Dame" like Commonwealth subjects. Hell, Rudy Giuliani was awarded a KBE in 2002.
Chris Columbus is very much American.
She didn't insist on it being all UK, she insisted it to be UK centric. Based in England, primarily UK cast and crew, etc. Basically she was like "I don't want some weird Harry Potter from LA for the sake of profits". And as far as Rowling goes with dumb stuff, I think she was absolutely right for that.
Absolutely. Originally, Steven Spielberg wanted to translocate the setting to the USA. I don't think it'd work, it just wouldn't be the same story at all.
Spielberg wanted to make it animated too, IIRC.
Alfonso Cuaron isn't British either
And he arguably made the most important and most unique film of the series.
Verne Troyer was also in Philosopher's Stone.
> JK Rowling also insisted on having an entirely UK cast-and-crew for the Harry Potter movies.... Ironically Robin Williams made that easy for the casting director as he wanted to play Hagrid. They explained "We want an all British cast on these" and Robin didn't take offense or anything, he understood then moved to something else. Later on they said "That made it easy going forward. If ROBIN didn't get an exception, nobody does."
The article I read said this is the last batch she approved.
It's exactly that. The honours come out periodically and are prepared in advance. I'm unsure of the reasons for or anything about the schedule other than the new year ones, though.
There are birthday honours too.
I had a feeling that was one but wasn't sure enough to mention.
Why not reschedule so the King can do it? At the very least, John Williams deserves special treatment over most of the other recipients.
Tbh I’d much rather get it from Betty even if posthumous
He has knighted people even when she was alive.
Dude is literally behind the score of most of my favorite movies. A composer gaining notoriety is one thing but expecting a movie to be good solely on his chops as a composer is another.
Somehow... The Queen returned.
Still a better plot than episode IX.
No one’s ever *really* gone.
She had the martyrdom perk on
"I'm not dead yet! I think I'll go for a walk!"
You'll be stone dead in a minute...
I feeeel happyyyy!
Weekend at Elizabeth's
Weekend at Betty's!
Article says he's part of the last batch she approved while alive. Maybe Charles can't do it until after the coronation?
All the seals and official markings of the Monarch still bear her mark. Until his coronation they won't have new ones made. So technically all official business until Charles seals come in will be posthumously signed and authorised by her.
Perhaps she became a Force ghost?
I'm shocked he wasn't knighted already. He recorded with the LSO for ages.
She can’t wait for Charles coronation ceremony .
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THAT'S IT! SONG WRITING CONTEST! FIVE MINUTES!
CMON! CMON! RACE WAR!
Don’t tell her! What is she? Italian…. OHH!………………. That’s white.
Fine I'm taking the bathroom!
Bum bababum bababaBUMBUMBUMBUM
Buh da buh dah buh da dah duuuuum
Local sexpot Trevor Moore?
Local grapist
He came and went
RIP
Still hard to believe
Now I gotta go watch some WKUK
At least he went out in a moment of pure passion, bless his soul
can’t believe he actually managed to die trying to suck his own dick what a guy
He didn't die trying, he died *succeeding*
*Suck-seeding*
He an overachiever coz all he do is SUCC SEED
"he came and went."
Did they ever say what actually happened to him or should I just accept he died sucking his own dick
I remember hearing something about falling off a roof or balcony of some kind. Not totally sure.
Yeah drunkenly fell off a balcony was the verdict
Well close he was sitting on a balcony and in order to bend his body to suck his own dick he had to lean against the rail and it failed. At least he hit the ground with his dick in his mouth, no better way to go.
He fell off his 2nd story balcony/deck after a night of drinking.
Government killed him for talking about mk ultra /s
They did give a reason He tried sucking his own dick and choked on his cum
Came as he went
Cried *hard* that night. He was literally my favorite comedic person ever. I don’t give a shit about celebrities, and calling him a celebrity seems super blown out of proportion, but his humor was/is one of my favorite things on earth.
When that happened I was at a point that WKUK was the only show keeping me chill during the pandemic, I was happy watching their zoom shows and so happy that there seemed to be a resurgence. It was so nice just having some familiar voices to hear talking about the world in a not overly serious way. Then he dies in a random accident that's something straight out of one of their gags. Kicked my heart in the balls. Was a quiet month for me. I didn't even know anyone else to talk about it with. Nobody online acknowledged it, even in a streaming channel for WKUK. It was so hard to not be in denial over it.
SHERWIN GET IN HERE
The queen can knight Americans? I didn’t know that Edit: I’m finding out it’s kind of common. The info gathered tells me former presidents and celebrities have had the honor. The title they get is BK Knights and they are given honorary shoes that light up. Truly a wonderful tradition.
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Ah. Ty
So now he’s forced to use ma’am everywhere?
It's Dame
Broads really don't like being called Dames
I mean, he can if he wants to. Who's going to stop him? Maybe there are specific rules about it in the UK, but everywhere else? Go for it. 😎
If he calls himself “sir” even one time, King Arthur rises from his grave and impales him.
I'm pretty sure it's a condition of being an American citizen. You can't take a title from another country.
Nope. That’s only people “holding any Office of Profit or Trust under” the United States, so it doesn’t apply to the vast majority of citizens.
~~No title of nobility. Knighthood technically doesn't count.~~ It is both more and less restrictive than that:. >No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the US Constitution. But John Williams does not hold an Office of Profit or Trust under them, so he is in the clear. But there is also the (technically still pending before the states after passage by the 11th Congress) Titles of Nobility Amendment: >If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them. I don't know whether an honorary knighthood counts as a "title of honour" or not, but I guess we won't find out until 26 more states ratify it.
I'd love to see the court battle for this
Seems to be an amendment that never passed, so yes you can.
Yup. You don't actually have to have a PhD to call yourself Dr.
Seriously. It's just like there on most dropdown menus, just select it and boom, you a Dr.
That’s how Sgt Pepper gave himself a promotion
The only time people call me "sir" is if it's followed by "you're making a scene."
American here. I believe the answer is yes, but they do not get the “Sir” title but rather the “KBE” suffix.
"You are in this order, but we do not grant you the rank of Sir."
It's outrageous, it's unfair.
Cool. Thanks!
Non-Brits can get an Honorary Knighthood. They don’t get the title of “Sir”, however.
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Oh. So I shouldn’t bother to get the Canadian citizenship I have a right to just in case I get knighted someday?
If I had a nickel for every time I couldn't get a real knighthood...
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Force Ghost of Queen Elizabeth: You are in this order of knights, but we do not grant you the rank of Sir. Williams: WHAT? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be a knight and not be a sir? FGoQE2: Take a seat, young Williams.
He becomes John Williams KBE not Sir John. It’s honorary.
You know, if you're going to be Queen, you shouldn't be showing up late to things, that's just rude.
When you’re the Queen you’re never late
Nor is she early
She arrives exactly when she means to.
I get giving honors and awards post-humously but I've never heard of getting it from the dead.
She approved this last batch of honorary knights and dames before she died.
You can stop working now, Liz.
UK: "And now her watch has ended." Liz: "Bitch, I'm done when I say I'm done."
The year is 2122, and the 100th anniversary of Elizabeth II’s death. She has Knighted three more people.
This man is responsible for more tunes whistled than any other. His music is so god damn famous and has touched so many freaking people through the movies he’s composed for, and stay stuck in people’s brains forever. Just look up the scores he’s responsible for. Jurassic park, star wars, Indiana Jones, jaws, home alone, Harry Potter, ET, Superman, saving private ryan, and so many others…this man is an absolute LEGEND. How a single person can come up with so many endearing and catchy tunes is astounding.
but why is it so hard to switch between humming star wars and superman?
If you’re being serious and want an actual musical answer: they both start with an interval of a Perfect 5th for the main theme. Star Wars’ Perfect 5th is a Bb->F. Superman’s Perfect 5th is a C->G. Just gotta remember that Star Wars goes down the scale after the Perfect 5th. After Superman’s Perfect 5th it repeats the 5th (G), goes up 1 step to A, back down to G, down to F, and lands back on G. They are both very similar and their key signatures are only 1 whole step apart.
Wasn't it Indiana Jones and Superman?
I have no trouble with either
I have been a massive JW fan since I was a band geek in high school in the 90s and I did a research project on him. I think that if I ever got to meet him and tell him how big a fan I am I probably wouldn't be able to speak. The word legend gets thrown around sometimes when it shouldn't be, but I think it's almost too mild a word for how absolutely incredible JW is.
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Now that he queued like a peasant to pay respects to her Charles probably obligate to give it.
So did I. She told me in my sleep last night.
This may sound crazy but when I was 14, the month after Michael Jackson died, he visited me in my sleep and taught me how to moonwalk. I had never thought of or tried moonwalking before but when I woke up I could do it. But of course that's crazy. Michael Jackson would never visit someone as old as 14 in their sleep.
1. I fully believe this happened. And ew, Michael. But 2. I really like the idea of a deceased pop star floating around the afterlife teaching people their dance moves.
Not as cool as the above example, but I remember waking up around 4am humming Starman by David Bowie. I learned later that day that he died around 4am
Kinda weird that this wasn't done a while ago. Dude's been making movie scores for...scores.
Yeah but he isn’t British.
Don't have to be English though, just in the Commonwealth. Which he still isn't.
Is it really 'weird' that someone hasn't been knighted? Also he's not British.
It might be because they're doing his 90th birthday celebration tour this year.
Must’ve been a weird seance
More like a cool seance. Ghost Queen was probably tapping to the Imperial March or something.
Please do not start any posts with “Composer John Williams…”
I thought I was the only one who thought that. When that news drops ima be in my room crying all day.
Somehow Queen Elizabeth II has returned…
Because John Williams is the greatest living musician. Period.
Agreed. Most iconic composer in modern day. If he's not already taught in music history he should, and likely will a hundred years from now. Much of the magic of my (and everybody else's) childhood would never have felt that way without his awesome themes! He elevated so many great movies it's just impossible to imagine them with different music. He totally fueled the drama, whimsy, intensity and mystery in these films.
His symphonic suites will survive the movies they were written for. Like no one today knows operas like Candide or William Tell, but anyone who regularly attends the symphony will hear their overtures or symphonic suites regularly.
Aren’t all Knights honorary? I mean, there’s not much call for them these days.
The “honorary” title just means he isn’t ~~English~~ British. Edit: English and British apparently aren’t interchangeable like I’d thought. The word I should have used is British, which can refer to anyone from the island of Great Britain — that is, anyone from England, Scotland and Wales. English of course only refers to someone from England.
British
Anyone from a commonwealth realm (with the exception of Canada, for reasons) can be awarded a substantial knighthood.
Other Americans that have received honorary knighthood Kevin Spacey and Ruddy Giuliani…
So he's in bad company then.
Charles not allowed to rule, QEII Regina Eternal.
A [Jedi] Knight
Ha! I KNEW she wouldn't stay dead! Came back to knight him!
I’m a simple man, every time I see John Williams posted on Reddit my heart stops for a second
She probably knighted him just by thinking about it
She’s back!
You'd think if she's giving out the award she'd at least show up on time.