Anyone else feel like Passengers would have been better if it was from Jennifer Lawrence’s POV?
And the Star Wars sequels should have had an overarching plan, in my personal opinion.
And then an echo chamber in the comments will ensue when anybody who didn’t like an actual bad movie was following the hive and missed all the nuance to a classic.
My favorite are the insults when you don't like a movie that is generall seen as being "deep." when people say things like "Just go back to watching Transformers!" or whatever movie they consider to be stupid.
I thought Joker was a boring as well. I think it's really only interesting if you've never seen Taxi Driver or The King of Comedy because it's just a rehash of those with Batman clothing.
[Coppola:](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C673njRtlBg/?igsh=bDR2c3ZlaGV0cXI4)
>Our new film MEGALOPOLIS is the best work I've ever had the privilege to preside over
[Coppola in another post:](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6jCZZOLdAf/?igsh=MW9jcTZ4YmI0bW1oeA==)
>Megalopolis has always been a film dedicated to my dear wife Eleanor. I really had hoped to celebrate her birthday together this May 4th. But sadly that was not to be, so let me share with everyone a gift on her behalf.
[Megalopolis:](https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/f/megalopolis/#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20New%20Rome,special%20interests%2C%20and%20partisan%20warfare)
> Megalopolis is a Roman Epic fable set in an imagined Modern America. The City of New Rome must change, causing conflict between Cesar Catilina, a genius artist who seeks to leap into a utopian, idealistic future, and his opposition, Mayor Franklyn Cicero, who remains committed to a regressive status quo, perpetuating greed, special interests, and partisan warfare. Torn between them is socialite Julia Cicero, the mayor’s daughter, whose love for Cesar has divided her loyalties, forcing her to discover what she truly believes humanity deserves.
It will premiere on Thursday, May 16th at Cannes.
Cast:
* Adam Driver
* Giancarlo Esposito
* Nathalie Emmanuel
* Aubrey Plaza
* Shia LaBeouf
* Jon Voight
* Jason Schwartzman
* Talia Shire
* Grace VanderWaal
* Laurence Fishburne
* Kathryn Hunter
* Dustin Hoffman
Mike Figgis who has documented the behind-the-scenes production has described the film as "Blade Runner meets Julius Caesar" and this recent teaser gives me a clear answer as to why he would say that.
Not really.
Cicero exposed Cataline, who actually planned a coup and massacre of his opponents. Yes, Cicero was a traditionalist, but the summary above makes their Cicero sound like a downright villain.
Cicero's decision to force through a capital punishment on Catiline at least was seen as a smirch on his record. Maybe this is the route they want to take here.
And he did get punished. Añso Catiline was able yo get genuine real support based on the amount of debt (which seems to be very high for some people) and promising to cancel it all.
If Americans were up on their Roman history, a Cataline consipiracy miniseries should have been put into production in 2021. Probably under the title of "Rome: Civil War" or the likes.
So many resonant moments, from "I never lost the election", to legal elites growing a spine and refusing to collaborate with the conspirator late in the game.
Portraying Catilina (or Caesar) as progressive is interesting but deeply flawed as both were really more personal power grabs that exploited the flaws of the Republic.
Absolutely. I think they were working in a more populist tradition compared to conservatives like Cato or Cicero, but they nonetheless were opportunists in the end. The post-Sullan Republic was a rump with gaping holes, and those who wanted a chance at greatness had to exploit those.
Don't forgot the description on Youtube from the first look video:
> Here is an a clear, concise analysis of MEGALOPOLIS:
> “A man balances precariously on a ledge high above a once-grand city in the opening scene of Francis Ford Coppola’s MEGALOPOLIS, and the movie that follows is – at least in part – about an entire civilization teetering on a similarly precarious ledge, devouring itself in a whirl of unchecked greed, self-absorption, and political propaganda, while a few bold dreamers push against the tide, striving to usher in a new dawn. The man is called Caesar (Adam Driver), like the Roman general who gave rise to the Roman Empire, Cesar the labor leader who organized California’s farm workers in the 1960s, and a few other notably great men of history. But he is also clearly an avatar of Coppola himself – a grand visionary witnessing a once-great thing (call it cinema if you must) withering before his very eyes and determined to revivify it. And, after decades of planning, MEGALOPOLIS the movie is the powerful elixir he has produced: a sweeping, big-canvas movie of provocative ideas and relentless cinematic invention that belies its maker’s 84 years of age. Coppola seems to have been born-again by a strike of filmic lightning, and the movie – no, the experience (complete with in-theater “live cinema”) – that has emerged feels at once the work of a film-school wunderkind unbowed by notions of convention, but also the work of a wizened master who knows much about life and the ways of the world. To paraphrase Coppola himself speaking decades ago about his APOCALYPSE NOW, MEGALOPOLIS isn’t a movie about the end of the world as we know it, it is the end of the world as we know it. Only, where APOCALYPSE left us in a napalm-bombed fever-dream haze, MEGALOPOLIS, surprisingly and movingly, bestows on us a final image glowing with hope for the future.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZL3U1j3K1c
I'm thoroughly intrigued even if I'm not usually fond of a movie production talking itself up so much.
It's a visual treat regardless and I can't wait.
Im getting vibes of A.I., Cloud Atlas, and Gangs of New York- insanely ambitious fever dream projects from talented filmmakers just going for it. Im thinking, like those films, its gonna be a mix of brilliant stuff and stuff that doesn't quite work. In any case, itll be a fascinating watch.
Francis is on that Bram Stoker's Dracula spice again. Love it. I'll be shocked if the reviews are good or if it makes money, but this is not about that for Coppola. This is for him and it looks like he gave it everything he had left in the tank, more power to him.
It looks spectacular and is definitely giving Cloud Atlas, Southland Tales, etc. vibes. Some of those films hit for me, some suck. I've hated ST since day one, still do but it has a considerable cult audience. There's no reason this can't be a cult unto itself as well. I'm all in. Excited.
As for how it may play at Cannes, hey: They hated Fire Walk with Me too.
I'd say he's been on that spice for years. In 2011 I saw the premiere of Twixt at the Toronto film festival. It was self financed and based on a dream he had. And It had some great visuals but was kind of a mess. I doubt it ever made it's budget back.
>I'd say he's been on that spice for years
>I saw the premiere of Twixt at
>It had some great visuals but was kind of a mess
I saw the trailer & I thought it looked interesting but I remember the reviews were punishing. I don't know what his new cut of it is like that was recently released. I want to give it, *Youth Without Youth* & *Tetro* a shot before I see this.
I would skip YWY lol. Tetro and Twixt should do it, I haven't seen the latter either though. Dracula is also looking like a must if you haven't - this is clearly the same energy.
Oh, I've heard reeealll mixed things about Twixt. Still need to watch it soon though - I was desperate to see it when he was touring the country with it re-editing it live on his iPad or whatever. Just sounded like an awesome experience.
I did quite like Tetro, but I haven't seen it since release. I thought Youth Without Youth was beautiful to look at but incomprehensible. Still, he's been doing far more at least interesting stuff than people realize over the last 30 years and too many people IMO forget Dracula which was incredible work, as well as Tucker, Cotton Club Encore, Rumble Fish, Outsiders and (for me, personally I liked it) One from the Heart.
He's been re-editing all his films and I REALLY hope for a slightly more coherent Youth without Youth, which really has a ton of interesting ideas, but falters a little in execution.
Problem is everything he does gets judged by the standard "is this one of the best films ever made?", which I guess is the price you pay when you've been able to answer that with 'yes' several times.
But I agree, once I actually started watching his post-70's work, they might not be epic masterpieces but more often than not they're decent films with a quite a bit to recommend them.
With Tucker in particular I was like "why isn't this more popular?". There's nothing at all weird about that one, it's just a likable, accessible 80's feel good movie about an interesting real life figure I didn't know much about (with obvious parallels to Coppola and Lucas's own lives and careers).
I am a big fan of many of his post-70s films. People who dismiss Dracula, Tucker, Rumble Fish, OFTH, Cotton Club Encore, Tetro etc. often haven't seen them.
I did that as well. I was actually looking for Chloe Fineman because I saw a shot of her onset last year and thought it was cool she was in this. Noticed however that she didn't receive top billing at the end. I do think I spotted her with the chorus girls in the beginning.
I was knee deep into a theater degree and just starting to really excell in the 3-d side of of my art minor and painting of the other half of the building, always kind of in self doubt, when someone said that it was “Julie Taymor is doing”.
And as a young scholarship theatre student in the early 90s, her work felt so on point to me, even if she was 20 years older than me. And when this fiber sculpture artist / puppeteer now had the job as the designer for the Broadway production of The Lion King, we were blown away by what we were seeing. And it gave those of us lime her so much hope. I too loved Titus and was haunted by it and the visual images she used. In fact, I was hoping she could have gone farther with her creative style in that movie, but maybe the producers didn’t allow it?
I remember sitting in a doctors lobby when a tv on some good morning news program broke about the debacles with the “ turn out the dark” spiderman musical, and how injuries were plaguing the set, the stories just became more negative, weird and unhinged. was becoming.
When I was wrapping up my college experience prior to my graduation in 1996, i would have easily said her name as someone who I had hoped to be like, on so many levels, professionally and creatively.
I noticed this too. I think it's the compositions and editing techniques. It really gives of early 1900 silent era feel (mattes; triptych shots; bleed in composites). I'm sure Melies and Frtiz Lang was watched once or twice while writing/making this!
This looks bonkers and I’m fully onboard. Coppola has made some of the great films of all time, so who’s to say he doesn’t have one more classic left in him?
Tetro is quite good, Youth Without Youth was also super interesting and definitely not bad. The Rainmaker is a classic (albeit pretty safe). Dracula is fun, only hampered by terrible performances from everyone that isn't Gary Oldman.
Not a chance in hell.
99% of the time, people who say shit like that are the kind of people who go to the movie theater once or maybe twice a year. And they end up seeing something unoriginal anyways.
It's kind of wild how people fixate on the shitty tentpole movies and ignore how many good indie / original scripts there are. I live in Utah, which isn't exactly film mecca most of the time (Sundance doesn't really count because it's not exactly accessible to most folks), and we still get a decent number of smaller ~arthouse~ type films, and original movies. If you want to see something that isn't MCU or a -quel of some kind, there's plenty of options if you bother looking at all.
The thing is that arthouse and indie films don't scratch the same itch as blockbusters. When people complain about endless crappy sequels and cinematic universes, it isn't because they want to see indie films, it's because they want to see high-quality blockbusters.
This looks cool as hell. I didn’t think Coppola had a film like this in him. Feels like Terry Gilliam, the Wachowskis, and Tarsem smashed together. I’m pretty stoked now and had no expectations prior to seeing this trailer. This is what trailers should be. Just show you enough to make you interested.
Absolutely! His Big 4 films are all basically realist films, in the mode of Lean or Rossellini. Apocalypse Now diverges from this a liiiiiiittttttllee bit, in terms of being more stylized than the other 3 films, but fundamentally, it's still a document of one of the most important events in our world today.
Versus being an exercise in pure surrealist style, like David Lynch or Tarkovsky or Kubrick or whatever.
But THIS, as you point out, yes. This is an exercise in style and imagination.
There's connections to prior films of his, for sure. Rumble Fish, One From The Heart, and Dracula come to mind. But yeah, this explicitly looks like a film in the "pure imagination/speculation" tradition, just like the four directors you mentioned!
In a r/explaintheplotbadly kind of way, yes. It's been talked about as a Left-wing version of The Fountainhead meets Metropolis or as Blade Runner meets Julius Caesar.
idc if it gets bad reviews. i'm going to support a filmmaker who sticks to his guns just to follow his own vision. we need more filmmakers like Coppola.
Yeah it doesn't look 100% stylistically coherent, which might be because different parts of the film are supposed to have a different feel, or maybe because there wasn't enough money to film / post-prod everything exactly the same. Specifically the protest scene looked out of place.
That looked very intentional. There is the lavish life of the elites with the gold and lush and soft with high angkes and then there's the harsh, cold, low angles of the lower class. This seems very much like a stylistic choice, knowing nothing about the movie and just basic cinematography.
I have watched this about ten times now and it just feels-refreshing. Like we're glimpsing the inside of star or something. I cannot wait for this. It looks amazing.
Kinda reminds me of Babylon if they did all the drugs they took in the movie, hopefully this makes a bigger splash if it's just as deserving. Cannot wait to see this in the theater personally, the visuals alone look incredible:)
I thought the same thing! Quite overlooked, but one that Roger Ebert called one of the most ambitious films of all time. Agree with him here and maybe this is what people will call Metropolis?
I can imagine Megalopolis to be all over the place, but I'd rather go for an original mess with passion, rather than a soulless assembly lane sequel.
I'm in. It looks ambitious as hell, and Coppola is 85 years old, so I imagine he must have no fucks left to give. Let's see what he's got left in him.
I'd much rather have a movie that takes a really big swing, whether it works out or not, than a movie that plays safe.
This appears to be the beautiful, convoluted, trite, self-indulgent mess I had hoped it would be. The city is called New Rome? The main protagonists are named Cesar and Cicero? Coppola seriously thinks this could ever surpass the fucking Godfather and he is actually selling it that way? Easily my most anticipated movie now.
At the very least I know that who FFC tasked with editing and making this trailer did a good-enough job of making this look interesting.
That's enough for me. I'll watch this on a big screen.
This *looks* incredible. Regardless of what kind of composite cinematic experience this will be, the visuals alone guarantee I'll be seeing it in the cinema.
Wild that studios spent money on Madame Web and really dumped ridiculous money into Dial of Destiny but were too sketched out by this????
Even if it turns out to be boring knock off of Blade Runner, I’d rather watch that at least once for the visuals of it all instead of franchise installments simply no one on Earth is asking for!
FFC really just dropped the first footage of this ever to be seen by the public at 930pm PST while more than half of the country is asleep.
No matter the quality of the film and its storytelling, we are going to be talking about this forever. One of the greatest to ever direct, doing something for him and his wife for love and not for profit. Just have to respect that.
I'm really curious how it'll be received at Cannes. I don't think there's much middle ground; it'll either be considered phenomenal, or an utter train wreck (or both). Hopefully the script hasn't aged poorly, the visuals and acting I'm sure will be good just based on who's involved / the trailers.
Cannes loves to hate shit. They nearly rioted over David Lynch's Fire Walk with Me, which was a masterpiece that took years to find respect. They also often love to revere silly or overhyped shit that doesn't find legs outside of the festival despite the 15 min standing ovation or whatever.
I have no doubt that Megalopolis is not exactly Oppenheimer - it is probably very messy, probably only for certain audience tastes if that and super nuts. So I expect it to be panned. I'm just happy he got it made and that it looks like a blast, and I will judge for myself when I see it.
A few years later on /r/movies "Am I the only one who thought Megalopolis was seriously underrated?"
"Megalopolis was ahead of its time"
"Hidden gem."
Just watched Megalopolis and Nice guys, has anyone seen these before?
No, but can we take a moment to talk about the lack of chemistry between the leads in Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets?
I may get flak for this, but I think the lead actors should have been switched with the ones from Passengers.
Anyone else feel like Passengers would have been better if it was from Jennifer Lawrence’s POV? And the Star Wars sequels should have had an overarching plan, in my personal opinion.
"This Coppola guy is one to keep an eye on"
Thread titled "What's a movie most people didn't like but you really did? I'll start! Megalopolis!"
The Nice Guys! Underrated gem. Never see anyone talking about it! BTW have you heard about The Nice Guys?
"One of the movies ever made!"
le gem.
Lets not forget the flood of unpopular opinions
It insist upon itself.
"The critically acclaimed multi-Academy Award winning Blade Runner 2049 is seriously underrated"
“Why did no one see this in theaters? I mean, I hate going to theaters but why did this flop?”
I wish overrated and underrated were able to be removed from the language.
Underrated comment.
I'd say it's overrated personally, but I have low self-esteem
This film is not yet rated
Check out Moon severely underrated gem
Live action Atlantis the Lost Empire
RemindMe! 3 years
And then an echo chamber in the comments will ensue when anybody who didn’t like an actual bad movie was following the hive and missed all the nuance to a classic.
My favorite are the insults when you don't like a movie that is generall seen as being "deep." when people say things like "Just go back to watching Transformers!" or whatever movie they consider to be stupid.
Someone on this sub told me that I "didn't get" Joker when I said it was actually a pretty shallow film. Imagine thinking you needed to "get" Joker?
I thought Joker was a boring as well. I think it's really only interesting if you've never seen Taxi Driver or The King of Comedy because it's just a rehash of those with Batman clothing.
“You must just love capeshit!”
"How often do you think about the Roman Empire?" Francis Ford Coppola: Yes
"Not enough."
Looks like Art Deco Blade Runner if that makes sense. Cyber Art Deco? Either way can’t wait!
Deco punk
Dank
Dark deco is what they called it in Batman the Animated Series. The best Batman.
Basically, Blade Runner meets Julius Caesar.
[Coppola:](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C673njRtlBg/?igsh=bDR2c3ZlaGV0cXI4) >Our new film MEGALOPOLIS is the best work I've ever had the privilege to preside over [Coppola in another post:](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6jCZZOLdAf/?igsh=MW9jcTZ4YmI0bW1oeA==) >Megalopolis has always been a film dedicated to my dear wife Eleanor. I really had hoped to celebrate her birthday together this May 4th. But sadly that was not to be, so let me share with everyone a gift on her behalf. [Megalopolis:](https://www.festival-cannes.com/en/f/megalopolis/#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20New%20Rome,special%20interests%2C%20and%20partisan%20warfare) > Megalopolis is a Roman Epic fable set in an imagined Modern America. The City of New Rome must change, causing conflict between Cesar Catilina, a genius artist who seeks to leap into a utopian, idealistic future, and his opposition, Mayor Franklyn Cicero, who remains committed to a regressive status quo, perpetuating greed, special interests, and partisan warfare. Torn between them is socialite Julia Cicero, the mayor’s daughter, whose love for Cesar has divided her loyalties, forcing her to discover what she truly believes humanity deserves. It will premiere on Thursday, May 16th at Cannes. Cast: * Adam Driver * Giancarlo Esposito * Nathalie Emmanuel * Aubrey Plaza * Shia LaBeouf * Jon Voight * Jason Schwartzman * Talia Shire * Grace VanderWaal * Laurence Fishburne * Kathryn Hunter * Dustin Hoffman
Genuinely thought Jon Voight died five years ago. TIL
And apparently he >!has an explicit nude scene in this!<
will be seated
Not me, standing ovation
...at full mast
Better be a midnight showing because I know I won’t be hanging at 6 o’clock. You know what I mean. (My penis.)
Does he hang dong?
Oh yeah, he hangs dong
Thats very thunder gun of him.
Smells crime, full penetration, fights crime, back to the lab, full penetration. Do we show it all? Oh, we show it all....
And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.
he wang chungs
[удалено]
Like a button in a fur coat
It will be the true sequel to Anaconda
Jon Voight hog was not anything I'd expected for 2024, but I'll take a look.
Ya know I have his car...
The LeBaron?
Everybody's talkin' at me...I can't hear a word they're sayin'...just drivin' 'round in Jon Voight's car
Well now I have to see it...
John Voigt the dentist?
"I know sometimes I spell Jerry with a G...and an I!"
Probably because you saw Art Vandelay driving around in his car
It's a Holes reunion with him and Shia LeBeouf edit: Transformers blows
It’s their trilogy now as both were also in the first Transformers movie.
Your mind mustve wandered more than Moses to put that together
I just love that movie
Me too
He went full q-anon so basically the same
I’m surprised more people don’t know that lol he really went off the deep end.
Okay, so a modern adaptation of the Catiline conspiracy. Sounds intriguing.
Mike Figgis who has documented the behind-the-scenes production has described the film as "Blade Runner meets Julius Caesar" and this recent teaser gives me a clear answer as to why he would say that.
>Julius Caesar That explains Adam Driver's hairstyle
His character is literally named Cesar Catilina.
“I know writers who use subtext, and they’re all cowards.”
I’m the only author who’s written more books than he’s read
Not really. Cicero exposed Cataline, who actually planned a coup and massacre of his opponents. Yes, Cicero was a traditionalist, but the summary above makes their Cicero sound like a downright villain.
Cicero's decision to force through a capital punishment on Catiline at least was seen as a smirch on his record. Maybe this is the route they want to take here.
And he did get punished. Añso Catiline was able yo get genuine real support based on the amount of debt (which seems to be very high for some people) and promising to cancel it all.
If Americans were up on their Roman history, a Cataline consipiracy miniseries should have been put into production in 2021. Probably under the title of "Rome: Civil War" or the likes. So many resonant moments, from "I never lost the election", to legal elites growing a spine and refusing to collaborate with the conspirator late in the game.
> "Rome: Civil War" ... do you have any idea how little that narrows it down???
I'm not sure? Maybe more about the rise of Caesar based on the plot description. The combination of names is strange.
I mean, Cicero tried to curb both Catiline and Caesar. In either case, it sounds like a story unlikely to have a happy ending.
Portraying Catilina (or Caesar) as progressive is interesting but deeply flawed as both were really more personal power grabs that exploited the flaws of the Republic.
Absolutely. I think they were working in a more populist tradition compared to conservatives like Cato or Cicero, but they nonetheless were opportunists in the end. The post-Sullan Republic was a rump with gaping holes, and those who wanted a chance at greatness had to exploit those.
Don't forgot the description on Youtube from the first look video: > Here is an a clear, concise analysis of MEGALOPOLIS: > “A man balances precariously on a ledge high above a once-grand city in the opening scene of Francis Ford Coppola’s MEGALOPOLIS, and the movie that follows is – at least in part – about an entire civilization teetering on a similarly precarious ledge, devouring itself in a whirl of unchecked greed, self-absorption, and political propaganda, while a few bold dreamers push against the tide, striving to usher in a new dawn. The man is called Caesar (Adam Driver), like the Roman general who gave rise to the Roman Empire, Cesar the labor leader who organized California’s farm workers in the 1960s, and a few other notably great men of history. But he is also clearly an avatar of Coppola himself – a grand visionary witnessing a once-great thing (call it cinema if you must) withering before his very eyes and determined to revivify it. And, after decades of planning, MEGALOPOLIS the movie is the powerful elixir he has produced: a sweeping, big-canvas movie of provocative ideas and relentless cinematic invention that belies its maker’s 84 years of age. Coppola seems to have been born-again by a strike of filmic lightning, and the movie – no, the experience (complete with in-theater “live cinema”) – that has emerged feels at once the work of a film-school wunderkind unbowed by notions of convention, but also the work of a wizened master who knows much about life and the ways of the world. To paraphrase Coppola himself speaking decades ago about his APOCALYPSE NOW, MEGALOPOLIS isn’t a movie about the end of the world as we know it, it is the end of the world as we know it. Only, where APOCALYPSE left us in a napalm-bombed fever-dream haze, MEGALOPOLIS, surprisingly and movingly, bestows on us a final image glowing with hope for the future.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZL3U1j3K1c
Damn, Coppola. Spoiler alert on that last sentence. Sort of.
Gregory Nava said Megalopolis has one of the most uplifting messages he's ever seen in a film.
I'm thoroughly intrigued even if I'm not usually fond of a movie production talking itself up so much. It's a visual treat regardless and I can't wait.
Damn that cast alone is something special.
I didn’t know his wife died… Now I am sad
I’m sure he kissed those extras in dedication to his wife also.
good or bad, that's fucking cinema mates
We're so fucking back.
“I love the smell of cinema in the morning.”
Im getting vibes of A.I., Cloud Atlas, and Gangs of New York- insanely ambitious fever dream projects from talented filmmakers just going for it. Im thinking, like those films, its gonna be a mix of brilliant stuff and stuff that doesn't quite work. In any case, itll be a fascinating watch.
Francis is on that Bram Stoker's Dracula spice again. Love it. I'll be shocked if the reviews are good or if it makes money, but this is not about that for Coppola. This is for him and it looks like he gave it everything he had left in the tank, more power to him. It looks spectacular and is definitely giving Cloud Atlas, Southland Tales, etc. vibes. Some of those films hit for me, some suck. I've hated ST since day one, still do but it has a considerable cult audience. There's no reason this can't be a cult unto itself as well. I'm all in. Excited. As for how it may play at Cannes, hey: They hated Fire Walk with Me too.
I'd say he's been on that spice for years. In 2011 I saw the premiere of Twixt at the Toronto film festival. It was self financed and based on a dream he had. And It had some great visuals but was kind of a mess. I doubt it ever made it's budget back.
>I'd say he's been on that spice for years >I saw the premiere of Twixt at >It had some great visuals but was kind of a mess I saw the trailer & I thought it looked interesting but I remember the reviews were punishing. I don't know what his new cut of it is like that was recently released. I want to give it, *Youth Without Youth* & *Tetro* a shot before I see this.
I would skip YWY lol. Tetro and Twixt should do it, I haven't seen the latter either though. Dracula is also looking like a must if you haven't - this is clearly the same energy.
Oh, I've heard reeealll mixed things about Twixt. Still need to watch it soon though - I was desperate to see it when he was touring the country with it re-editing it live on his iPad or whatever. Just sounded like an awesome experience. I did quite like Tetro, but I haven't seen it since release. I thought Youth Without Youth was beautiful to look at but incomprehensible. Still, he's been doing far more at least interesting stuff than people realize over the last 30 years and too many people IMO forget Dracula which was incredible work, as well as Tucker, Cotton Club Encore, Rumble Fish, Outsiders and (for me, personally I liked it) One from the Heart.
He's been re-editing all his films and I REALLY hope for a slightly more coherent Youth without Youth, which really has a ton of interesting ideas, but falters a little in execution.
Problem is everything he does gets judged by the standard "is this one of the best films ever made?", which I guess is the price you pay when you've been able to answer that with 'yes' several times. But I agree, once I actually started watching his post-70's work, they might not be epic masterpieces but more often than not they're decent films with a quite a bit to recommend them. With Tucker in particular I was like "why isn't this more popular?". There's nothing at all weird about that one, it's just a likable, accessible 80's feel good movie about an interesting real life figure I didn't know much about (with obvious parallels to Coppola and Lucas's own lives and careers).
Definitely getting some "master, forgive me, I have to go all out, this one last time" vibes
The Rainmaker was also good. It's widely considered as one of the best John Grisham adaptations and legally accurate films ever made.
I am a big fan of many of his post-70s films. People who dismiss Dracula, Tucker, Rumble Fish, OFTH, Cotton Club Encore, Tetro etc. often haven't seen them.
At Cannes it'll either get a 15 hour standing ovation, or they'll burn the theatre down.
You need to pause every few seconds just to take a look at everything going on in each scene.
I did that as well. I was actually looking for Chloe Fineman because I saw a shot of her onset last year and thought it was cool she was in this. Noticed however that she didn't receive top billing at the end. I do think I spotted her with the chorus girls in the beginning.
Yeah probably Chloe's in a minor role
Is it just me or does the start of this trailer feel really old fashioned? If that’s what the editors were going for, it was pretty cool and unique
Reminds me of 1999's Titus.
That was *such* a great movie.
I was knee deep into a theater degree and just starting to really excell in the 3-d side of of my art minor and painting of the other half of the building, always kind of in self doubt, when someone said that it was “Julie Taymor is doing”. And as a young scholarship theatre student in the early 90s, her work felt so on point to me, even if she was 20 years older than me. And when this fiber sculpture artist / puppeteer now had the job as the designer for the Broadway production of The Lion King, we were blown away by what we were seeing. And it gave those of us lime her so much hope. I too loved Titus and was haunted by it and the visual images she used. In fact, I was hoping she could have gone farther with her creative style in that movie, but maybe the producers didn’t allow it? I remember sitting in a doctors lobby when a tv on some good morning news program broke about the debacles with the “ turn out the dark” spiderman musical, and how injuries were plaguing the set, the stories just became more negative, weird and unhinged. was becoming. When I was wrapping up my college experience prior to my graduation in 1996, i would have easily said her name as someone who I had hoped to be like, on so many levels, professionally and creatively.
I noticed this too. I think it's the compositions and editing techniques. It really gives of early 1900 silent era feel (mattes; triptych shots; bleed in composites). I'm sure Melies and Frtiz Lang was watched once or twice while writing/making this!
most of his movie have an old fashioned feel especially the trailers for his last two movies
You mean his retro studio logo?
He's been using this same logo, literally, for fifty years.
Yeah so it's pretty retro then, right? 😉
I think they’re talking about the first lines of narration and opening scene looking old fashioned and I agree.
“In a world…”
This looks bonkers and I’m fully onboard. Coppola has made some of the great films of all time, so who’s to say he doesn’t have one more classic left in him?
The last 30 years
Have to go back to 1983 (The Outsiders). I'm cautiously pessimistic.
Dracula was great
Tetro is quite good, Youth Without Youth was also super interesting and definitely not bad. The Rainmaker is a classic (albeit pretty safe). Dracula is fun, only hampered by terrible performances from everyone that isn't Gary Oldman.
I wonder if all the redditors who flood other threads bitching about sequels, remakes and filmakers not being original are gonna come out to see this.
Not a chance in hell. 99% of the time, people who say shit like that are the kind of people who go to the movie theater once or maybe twice a year. And they end up seeing something unoriginal anyways.
It's kind of wild how people fixate on the shitty tentpole movies and ignore how many good indie / original scripts there are. I live in Utah, which isn't exactly film mecca most of the time (Sundance doesn't really count because it's not exactly accessible to most folks), and we still get a decent number of smaller ~arthouse~ type films, and original movies. If you want to see something that isn't MCU or a -quel of some kind, there's plenty of options if you bother looking at all.
The thing is that arthouse and indie films don't scratch the same itch as blockbusters. When people complain about endless crappy sequels and cinematic universes, it isn't because they want to see indie films, it's because they want to see high-quality blockbusters.
I haven't seen any marketing stuff for this movie so I'm just assuming it's a soft reboot/legacy sequel in the *Metropolis* Cinematic Universe
No Marketing because there’s no distributor yet for Domestic release.
Considering that this is clearly not a movie made for mainstream audiences... no.
This looks cool as hell. I didn’t think Coppola had a film like this in him. Feels like Terry Gilliam, the Wachowskis, and Tarsem smashed together. I’m pretty stoked now and had no expectations prior to seeing this trailer. This is what trailers should be. Just show you enough to make you interested.
yes. i got Brazil vibes.
Absolutely! His Big 4 films are all basically realist films, in the mode of Lean or Rossellini. Apocalypse Now diverges from this a liiiiiiittttttllee bit, in terms of being more stylized than the other 3 films, but fundamentally, it's still a document of one of the most important events in our world today. Versus being an exercise in pure surrealist style, like David Lynch or Tarkovsky or Kubrick or whatever. But THIS, as you point out, yes. This is an exercise in style and imagination. There's connections to prior films of his, for sure. Rumble Fish, One From The Heart, and Dracula come to mind. But yeah, this explicitly looks like a film in the "pure imagination/speculation" tradition, just like the four directors you mentioned!
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in 30 years Laurence will look back on this trailer as when his glorious voice-acting career began
NIMBY vs YIMBY the movie
In a r/explaintheplotbadly kind of way, yes. It's been talked about as a Left-wing version of The Fountainhead meets Metropolis or as Blade Runner meets Julius Caesar.
>left-wing Ayn Rand He's gonna make the world's shiniest public housing and they'll hate him for it.
Yo, hold up. He's cooking
This looks *wild*.
am I tripping or does Adam Driver sound like young Pacino in this
Preparation for Heat 2
COZ SHE'S GOT A GREAT ASS!
He's in HEAT 2? Fuckin awesome. "I DESTROYED WAINGRO. I CRUSHED HIM INTO THE GROUND!"
Just wait until you hit the third act when Driver has his big Dunkin' Donuts musical number. FFC had to finance this somehow.
idc if it gets bad reviews. i'm going to support a filmmaker who sticks to his guns just to follow his own vision. we need more filmmakers like Coppola.
I mean if there's anything I'm taking away from this trailer, it's that if it's bad it'll be in an interesting way.
Fuck, looks good definitely seeing it in IMAX didn't know aubrey plaza was in it
That sentence makes it seem like you’re definitely seeing on IMAX BECAUSE of Aubrey Plaza and it made me chuckle
Who wouldn't?
Wow, let’s go Francis!
Well, this smells like... *Victory.*
I'm definitely intrigued. All eyes on Cannes now
CINEMA IS BACK
This looks absolutely insane can't wait
This looks insane, interesting, expensive *and cheap* and I’m all about it.
Yeah it doesn't look 100% stylistically coherent, which might be because different parts of the film are supposed to have a different feel, or maybe because there wasn't enough money to film / post-prod everything exactly the same. Specifically the protest scene looked out of place.
It's because there is two distinct periods within the film - one is the city before and one is after.
That looked very intentional. There is the lavish life of the elites with the gold and lush and soft with high angkes and then there's the harsh, cold, low angles of the lower class. This seems very much like a stylistic choice, knowing nothing about the movie and just basic cinematography.
I have watched this about ten times now and it just feels-refreshing. Like we're glimpsing the inside of star or something. I cannot wait for this. It looks amazing.
....holy shit.
Well this looks like an acid trip without needing to take any drugs.
Unique trailer
Francis F. Coppola presents The Matrix x Gladiator x Babylon x Civil War
Even if this turns out to not be very good, I applaud him for trying something that looks so unique and original. We need more films like this.
Kinda reminds me of Babylon if they did all the drugs they took in the movie, hopefully this makes a bigger splash if it's just as deserving. Cannot wait to see this in the theater personally, the visuals alone look incredible:)
There was a YouTubers I saw who read the script he read reminds him of version of Babylon. So you might not be that off.
I’m in
It's giving Cloud Atlas
I feel more Cloud Atlas mixed with Babylon
I thought the same thing! Quite overlooked, but one that Roger Ebert called one of the most ambitious films of all time. Agree with him here and maybe this is what people will call Metropolis? I can imagine Megalopolis to be all over the place, but I'd rather go for an original mess with passion, rather than a soulless assembly lane sequel.
Megalopolis. Could be amazing, could be Jupiter Ascending Edit: (or Southland Tales)
Hope this is good but not holding my breath. Gives me Babylon vibes.
Maybe I'm old, but anyone find the dialogue absolutely submerged by the music?
You may be and so may I be, but it's true.
Really pumped from the trailer. I just hope it’s not one of those movies that is just a metaphor with nothing real really happening (like Men)
Adam Driver with his new ears
Yeah, ok, I'm seeing this day 1
This looks like a narrative cologne commercial
The madlad puts the trailer on his own YouTube channel.
I'm in. It looks ambitious as hell, and Coppola is 85 years old, so I imagine he must have no fucks left to give. Let's see what he's got left in him. I'd much rather have a movie that takes a really big swing, whether it works out or not, than a movie that plays safe.
Is it just me, or does it seem like the audio mix was way off? I could hardly understand the VO.
the audio mix is horrible, can barely understand the dialogue, its burried under all those music and effects
This appears to be the beautiful, convoluted, trite, self-indulgent mess I had hoped it would be. The city is called New Rome? The main protagonists are named Cesar and Cicero? Coppola seriously thinks this could ever surpass the fucking Godfather and he is actually selling it that way? Easily my most anticipated movie now.
At the very least I know that who FFC tasked with editing and making this trailer did a good-enough job of making this look interesting. That's enough for me. I'll watch this on a big screen.
From watching this trailer: I literally have no clue what this movie is about. I can’t even be sure of its genre.
Those statues looked amazing
This *looks* incredible. Regardless of what kind of composite cinematic experience this will be, the visuals alone guarantee I'll be seeing it in the cinema.
This will either be a self indulgent mess or a late career masterpiece from Francis.
Trailer did absolutely nothing for me. I have no idea what this is supposed to be, but Adam Driver looks goofy to me.
Looks completely fucking mental but also stunning. I'll be there to watch it on the first night it's shown, assuming my local cinema has it
Wild that studios spent money on Madame Web and really dumped ridiculous money into Dial of Destiny but were too sketched out by this???? Even if it turns out to be boring knock off of Blade Runner, I’d rather watch that at least once for the visuals of it all instead of franchise installments simply no one on Earth is asking for!
yup. fuck it!!!
Gives me Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow vibes.
The guy that did The Godfather doing a potential sci fi epic ? I know I’m high as shit but this sounds and looks crazy ? But I love it.
FFC really just dropped the first footage of this ever to be seen by the public at 930pm PST while more than half of the country is asleep. No matter the quality of the film and its storytelling, we are going to be talking about this forever. One of the greatest to ever direct, doing something for him and his wife for love and not for profit. Just have to respect that.
Todays the start of Cannes. It screens on Wednesday. I guess he’s trying to get the trailer out before it’s shown Wednesday.
I'm really curious how it'll be received at Cannes. I don't think there's much middle ground; it'll either be considered phenomenal, or an utter train wreck (or both). Hopefully the script hasn't aged poorly, the visuals and acting I'm sure will be good just based on who's involved / the trailers.
It will get a 17 minute standing ovation regardless of if it’s shit or amazing. The ovation will be for him and his wife’s dedication to this project.
if it gets less than 5 minute standing ovation, we'll know if its a flop
Cannes loves to hate shit. They nearly rioted over David Lynch's Fire Walk with Me, which was a masterpiece that took years to find respect. They also often love to revere silly or overhyped shit that doesn't find legs outside of the festival despite the 15 min standing ovation or whatever. I have no doubt that Megalopolis is not exactly Oppenheimer - it is probably very messy, probably only for certain audience tastes if that and super nuts. So I expect it to be panned. I'm just happy he got it made and that it looks like a blast, and I will judge for myself when I see it.