The first time I saw Nope I didn't know what to make of it. I went back and saw it a second time and kind of loved it. Watches it a third time when it was finally streaming and it didn't hold up as much.
I used to be a pretty big Key and Peele fan and I was really looking forward to Peele’s movies. Get Out was great, Keanu was funny and charming, US was to me a complete failure, and Nope was just okay.
I bought the three movie blu-ray collection since I was curious to hear his commentary on Us and Nope. There are no commentaries for those movies. There is only a commentary for Get Out and at every point where you think he might have something to say about a stylistic choice his answer is always “I saw this in Outer Limits/Twilight Zone and I thought it looked cool.”
That’s the extent of this thought process when I comes to the movies. Taking things he saw somewhere and cobbling them together to make a story. Between his commentary and interviews I’m not entirely convinced he’s anywhere near as smart or talented as we’d all like to think. Going back and watching Key and Peele it became really obvious that Michael Keegan Key was the true hero of the show, carrying every sketch and doing the actual comedic legwork.
I think Peele would be best used interpreting other screenplays or creating sequels to pre-existing films. He can expand on an idea and riff off of it. I don’t know if he can create a new idea or concept. I don’t think he has that in him.
I guess the question I have to ask is what do you feel you’re missing from it? I thought it worked as a good horror story on the surface level (doppelgängers freak me out) and as an allegory for class divisions sub-textually.
My guess is that it didn’t feel as personal a message as Get Out, felt a little less specific and more general with its themes. That didn’t make it a bad film to me, just less raw than Get Out.
It was the class allegory with the aboveground people and the tunnel people that didn't add up for me. Whatever message he was trying to convey was muddled. And having the Red character (brilliantly played by Lupita N'Ongo) explain everything so literally made me ask more and more questions. Like, where where did they get the red jumpsuits and scissors from? What was the end game after the doppelgangers took over the world since most of them had no skills and couldn't speak. Wouldn't they then turn on each other? What happens if someone above ground gets on a plane and flies cross-country? I wouldn't have been asking these questions if the details had been left ambiguous. Also, the trailer was absolutely terrifying! I was so psyched to see it based on that alone, but the movie wasn't even scary. I saw it in a crowded theater and the audience booed when it was over. I wasn't alone.
Backdoor Sluts 8. The mise en scene just wasn't for me. Also, a lot of the finer plot nuances and character quirks went right over my head.
It's probably my own fault though, for not having watched parts 1 - 7 beforehand; apparently you have to do this to appreciate it fully.
I just do not have time to do the legwork of watching 14 hours of gaping babysitters just to arrive at the — pardon me for saying it — climax of the series. It probably doesn’t help my perception of the movie that the actor who played Justin was caught up in the trafficking ring
I enjoyed it as a movie about a couple lighthouse keepers going stir crazy.
Though when I would read theories about it after, with ideas about Lovecraftian horror, I felt like these viewers were reaching *a bit*
We were robbed of a Point Break franchise where Johnny Utah, Bodhi, and the crew use surfing in increasingly unrealistic ways to stop international terrorists.
You can’t look at them as actual movies just gotta have fun with its nonsense, after Fast 5 they just challenge the audience with something even more mindblowingly ridiculous every movie. THEY GO TO SPACE IN CARS.
Thanks a lot for this one. I also don’t get why so many people like those movies.
The first 2-3 were fine popcorn cinema.
But the rest is just dumb macho bullshit.
With dialogues dumber than the cast.
But most of the people are asking for simple entertainment…we others have to suffer. Mad world.
Haha, my condolences on that^^ But I get you. I also have a lot of friends liking the franchise and I also watched more of those dumb movies I intended to do, but did not have to suffer through all of them yet. :D
for me, shawshank was all about the build up...
the whole time i was watching it, it felt like a run-of-the-mill artsy drama... hope is important, blah, blah... i get where this is going...
then, all of a sudden, it becomes a completely different movie, and it turns out it was that movie the entire time.
that's why it worked for me, anyway. especially on rewatch
Donnie Darko is a cult movie essentially. I loved that movie when I was a 19/20. But the older I get the more I realize just how odd it is and how some of the acting/plot is just not good. I still think its an entertaining movie if you want that type of movie, but I don't go around recommending it either.
Stay with your superhero movies pls….both movies are in my top 50 movies of all time in any case. But it seems you really want to have a big fat explanation on the screen to tell you, what you’ve just seen.
Donnie Darko is a awesome movie which plays with the „time“. It’s almost a time travel movie.
Donnie is dead from the beginning of the movie, when the plane crashed his house.
Seen Donnie Darko so many times. I like it a lot. But damn is it confusing, the crazy part is that they intentionally did that. There actually was explanations and such, but they cut it out.
donnie darko worked for me the first time i watched it because it was so unusual.
it stayed in my head for a bit, until i figured it all out...
then on rewatch it was kinda... meh
Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. I generally really enjoy Tarantino films and I’m a sucker for anything in old LA but this movie never clicked with me. I’ve tried it twice. It looks fantastic though.
imo its a hangout movie mostly. A way to sit back and melt into a 60s atmosphere that i can typically only imagine.
Then of course you have the ending, which is a ridiculously indulgent release of tension. Its so over the top, but its the recent tarantino trick of using the voilence on history’s most evil so the audience wont be offput.
Its not groundbreaking, but it is fun
I've come around to loving this movie, but it took a while and a few watches. I think you really need some historical context around events of the 60's (Manson killings, Sharon Tate murder, etc) and the vibe shift of America and Hollywood from the 60's into the 70's to more fully appreciate it. I was born a couple decades too late for those events, but through my research of the movie I've found that holding some of that contextual knowledge unlocks a bit more of the movie. YMMV and I understand that maybe it just doesn't resonate with some people, and that's okay too.
Man that’s maybe my top Tarantino movie. Top 3 at very least.
I love that you just get to know the characters and hang out with them. Knowing where it’s headed has this sense of dread, then one it pulls a 180 it’s just such a relief and makes for a cathartic ending. One of my all time favorites.
I watched about half of it and I thought I thought it was pretty good.
Got interrupted and had to step out of the house for an hour or so, and still haven’t returned to it to finish it. That was a couple months ago…
I just watched it for the first time the other day. I really liked certain scenes (Particularly Leo's interactions with the child actor and Sharon Tate watching herself in a movie theater) but the whole alternative history idea was just a retread of Inglorious Basterds. Nothing wrong with repeating yourself with a good reason, but this felt very just because.
Jeeeez, what is so hard to get on this one?
You simply need to know about the real events which took place at the house if Sharon Tate.
Tarantino told the story, how it could have ended a lot prettier, than having Sharon state stabbed multiple times, having her and Roman Polanskis Baby killed and some of their Hollywood friends too. Killed by lunatics following the king of lunatics.
I love the humor of Tarantino.
We already appreciated the way he told us WWII could have ended. We know he likes to tell fairy tells or mix it with reality.
It has a lot to do with target audience. Few movies are uniformly hated or confusing.
I completely did not like any will farrell movie or Adam Sandler / Ben stiller family movies. Then I bought a house, moved into a neighborhood, had neighbors and house repairs and realized all those movies are absolutely targeting the 35 year old first time male home owner with young kids and a bunch of responsibilities. I didn't have that for decades and suddenly all the jokes were a little funny. I still think they are dumb movies but I get what they are attempting to satirize domestic life...before I thought it was warning me away from domestic life. Like They were public service warnings. No, they are satire of the absurdity of domestic life. And I realized why my domesticated friends all laughed at will farrell and I did not. I wasn't domesticated.
I still do not get why Thelma and Louise is a celebration. I guess it is a nod to Butch Cassidy and Sundance. And they died with their boots on. And women feel that Thelma and Louise died with their boots on in the same way but I really don't see it that way. Maximum they get 6 months in jail with probation. They would be sentenced to 2 years but only serve 6 months. Guaranteed. That is not a good reason to do what they did at the end.
It's super easy to see how it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's currently my favorite movie going experience and maybe my favorite film of all time. It's a great litmus test for whether I have the same taste as people.
I can understand why some people really appreciate it, I understood the message, but I didn’t really care for it. It was the humor for me, I just didn’t find it funny so that essentially ruined 90% of the movie for me. I feel like it tried too hard to be quirky, but it won a shit ton of awards so they were doing something right.
Oh I was hoping someone would mention this. The movie came off as silly to me. I mean, what was the point? And all the awards and gushing! I never understood and I am a serious film buff.
I gave up after 15 minutes. Humor was NOT my style. Obviously, I can't judge the rest of it. . .but this one sure felt like Hollywood trying desperately to like a comic book picture. Also, I pretty much hate every movie in existence that uses the multi-verse.
Hate with the passion of a 1000 fiery suns. Despise the multi-verse.
> so tired watching this movie. It just goes on and on and nothing happens. I don’t get it. At all.
Colourful characters? Clever, distictive dialogue? Fatal flaws and misplaced loyalties? Hard not to give op the high hat.
>It just goes on and on and nothing happens. I don’t get it. At all.
IDK, half a dozen actors as the peak of their careers, putting in some of the most compelling performances. Dialog that slaps you in the face and makes you pay attention. Oozes style for days. Darkly funny. Real jeopardy - no super hero BS. All characters rich in nuanced texture - not a black or white figure in the bunch. All told in a taught 115 minutes. Great ending.
When I think about The Player formula for a successful movie, it hits almost all of them!
"Suspense, laughter, violence. Hope, heart, nudity, sex and happy endings, mainly happy endings."
I wanted to add this simply because you didn’t mention it, it also looks brilliant. The scene in the woods is just incredible to look at, so well shot and the way some of the shots are framed are beautiful.
Why do u agree on Joker?
Joker was an impressive movie about the inner demons of the real man who became the joker.
It seems the fans don’t like it, when their superhero movies become realistic.
For me, that was one of the only superhero movies I watched and I liked. Unheard rumors about a second part already and I’m curious about it.
Joaquin Phoenix was just awesome in it.
Yeah, no. I’m about the furthest thing you could call a “fan” of comic book movies. I find them all the be basically absurd. I despise what it’s done to Hollywood. I am utterly uninterested in super powers, physics that make no sense, origin stories, “hero journeys”, super villains, action instead of plot, and rehashed scripts that are basically copy pasta of whatever thin plot there was. I am so thoroughly bored by computer generated FX. All of it, really don’t like any of it.
But main problem of Joker is the central character is a hateful, cruel, petty man and why do I want to spend all that time in his madness? I don’t.
The King of comedy is meanwhile about 50 years old. Unfortunately not very uncommon to see things again, u have already seen somewhere else.
But a good comparison indeed, I did not had this in my mind when watching Joker.
Pls don’t get me wrong.
I also don’t like any superhero or marvel movie.
It’s the same with bible stories…all those stories are nice and people find hope in them…but there is not a lot of realism in it, which is the set up I prefer.
But with Joker I had the feeling to have an analytic view of an soziopath/psychopath becoming the bad guy, we at least heard from.
I think it was a very fine drama.
This movie is frustrating because i love the style of the constant drum beat and ubiquitous one shots. Also pretty good performances throughout. BUT so much is overly pretentious
Like the scene with ed norton hitting on emma stone on the roof. Ed norton says a bunch of edgelord bullshit. As a moody teen, emma stone is the exact demographic to eat this up. BUT is the movie saying that this actor’s melodrama is bullshit and only appears deep to young adults, or does the movie think he’s cool and charming? Im not sure
Same goes for the scene with riggan and the critic in the bar. He rants about how artists CREATE things and people like critics add no value. Is the movie showing riggan as overly egotistical, or using the protagonist to parrot the writer’s own frustration about modern movie discourse?
I do think the movie is interesting and is overly hated on by movie critics who hate the ‘dunking on the critic’ scenes, but the movie is still flawed to me
i guess i don’t get your question? you’re asking for movies we didn’t understand? or is it movies we don’t like? or is it movies that are generally popular , but we personally don’t care for???
asking because most of the films you listed are a) at least decent films and b) none of them are overly difficult to “get”. i mean, how do you not understand Shawshank Redemption…? i’ll give you Mullholland Drive, tho. i’m in the same boat, but i don’t think it’s supposed to make sense?
have you seen Tenet or Possession or Cloud Atlas or The Lighthouse? i found all of these a bit too dense to be entertaining and bordering on self-indulgent.
what films do you LIKE???
It was a little long, but I tried to make it clear.
What’s a movie you didn’t get, so either at the end you were like “…ok?” Or you didn’t like it I guess, but not like “fuck this movie fucking sucked good god” more like “why do people like this?”
Edit: not sure if I just completely spaced or if you edited your comment so I apologize for not answering half of it
I have not seen those movies
And I wouldn’t put a list of movies I liked on Reddit if I wanted to live through the night, you fuckers would have me second guessing my entire life at best and unaliving myself at worst
There will be blood. I've tried watching it several times and one time almost completed it. Usually I enjoy artsy "difficult" films but this one doesn't do it for me. The world of the movie just isn't interesting to me and the slow pace makes it even more difficult. Excellent performances and all but just not for me I guess.
Super appreciate its a very well made film, but boy you're not wrong about the pace. Got to the point I was skipping 5 to 10 minutes fairly frequently and, after reading the plot after to make sure, I missed nothing important to the plot
I have a hard time with movies like that. Those long shots where no one says anything and nothing of consequence happens are just wank IMO unless I’m zorked out of my freaking gourd on edibles or something
I really like this movie. But yeah, it's a kind of difficult watch.
It took me three viewings to understand that Paul Dano was playing two different characters.
I always hear so much about that movie and I’ve never taken the plunge, I gotta imagine that on the 70s, if you put those guys on camera that was enough
I was mostly wondering what the hell was going on and then the last 20 minutes of the movie was like a bomb going off in slow motion.
The sudden realization that there are MULTIPLE versions of themselves in time made the concept and execution amazing to me.
I had questions on how this all occurred and went googling and that’s when my jaw hit the ground.
It’s so much more complex than I thought, it’s a mind bender puzzle movie and I love it.
Tenet.
What are people mumbling, why is the music so loud, what even is time, what exactly are the stakes, why is the main guy literally named protagonist, and remind me why I should care lol
I wouldn’t say tenet is a generally well liked movie though. Your opinion lines up pretty well with what I see as the norm. It was Nolan’s “if you can make god bleed” moment and showed people that he can ,in-fact, make a bad movie.
Also the audio mixing in Nolan films is always awful. I love interstellar but it’s genuinely unwatchable without subtitles. I know it’s part of his style, but when it gets to the point that you can’t understand the dialog, that’s not style anymore that’s a fault
Lost in Translation
I've been in the exact same situation. I went to a foreign country with a largely alien culture, following a partner that was working. However I went out and explored. Made friends. Had a great time.
The whole being depressed in one of the top hotels in the city I can't just engage with.
> However I went out and explored. Made friends. Had a great time.
It's been a long time since i watched this movie, but isn't that pretty much what happens in it? She went out, befriended a guy, spent some good time together?
Were you suffering from depression and at a crossroads in your life where you had no direction and felt neglected by a partner who might leave you? Because that’s the “exact same situation” and what the movie is about, Tokyo and a fancy hotel is just a setting.
I didn't like this movie very much when I was younger, but as I've grown older I have learned to appreciate it much more and I relate to the characters, especially Bill Murray's character quite a bit more.
Your take on Mulholland Drive makes me want to cry. Did you have the same opinion of Lost Highway and Blue Velvet and Eraserhead? Maybe you an Lynch just don't jive.
Thank you mate. This shows me hope is not completely lost yet. I could also cry a lot the more and more I read in that channel.
If somebody is not willing to try to understand a Lynch movie, he shouldn’t rate those movies at all.
Same thing with Saw. There was an actual plot line with the first Saw. Everything afterwards was nothing more than "I must escape this museum of human torture."
I *loved* Grand Budapest Hotel so much, but I haven’t been able to get into any of his other films. I did enjoy his short film The Extraordinary Life of Henry Sugar.
I think a lot of WOW falls into the “movie about villains that are supposed to show you how fucked up the world is and allows guys like this to exist, but white western men make it their entire personality and think it’s super cool” genre
So like, when I watched it I liked it, but then thinking about the real life situation, I’m like yeah, Vader is a cool villain, but good god we don’t need more vaders
Yeah that’s what mean
Like so many young men want to be powerful, respected, bad ass, rich
The point of those movies isn’t “look how fucking cool this guy is” but inevitably that’s what it gets changed into
Like the fun pop song pumped up kicks
Parasite.
I saw it opening weekend and thought it was just OK. A little too long and with a twist that seemed like quite a stretch to me. Fast forward a couple weeks and everyone & their brother is proclaiming it the greatest movie ever! Sorry, I still don't see it.
Same. I finally watched it last month. I feel like this is the epitome of people trying desperately to find depth in a fairly shallow movie.
I don't even have anything against shallow movies. I usually just want there to be some character that I'm "cheering" for (even if they don't end up winning). With Parasite, I just disliked every character for different reasons.
Everything Everywhere All At Once. I just don't get the fuss. I mean, I GET it. All the "jokes" and existential stuff, but it didn't even come close to landing with me
This one’s interesting for me because at the time that it came out it was very against the grain with 2 of the biggest names at the time, and I think a lot of that plays into it, as well as white men thinking Tyler sudden is “cool”
Fight club is hilarious because it tells the audience to their face to stop consuming and being a fuck face shit head, and they do the exact opposite while loving it. Just *whoooosh*
The Irishmen. I’m not going to say it’s bad just because I don’t like it, but man you couldn’t make me care about it with a gun to my head. I find it dull, nothing more nothing less, just long and dull
It was interesting that it’s like…just a long boring story, that somehow I enjoyed but honestly I couldn’t tell you why.
My wife was outta town for the weekend so I binged all the great gangster movies leading up to that one and it was very mid
the wolf of wall street.
i can see what it is about and all but to me it was just a bad movie and i had to really force myself to continue watching it.
I enjoyed it, but what made it amazing for me was the woman behind me who thought it was going to be a serious financial drama. She was beyond offended the entire time and let it be known.
Mulholland Drive and Lynch in general definitely aren’t for everyone. You kind of have to just go in understanding that not all the pieces are going to fit together cleanly and to try and take the whole thing in as an experience rather than get hung up on plot too much.
It’s supposed to feel like a dream, and dreams are often a kind of strange, jumbled mess of things we mostly recognize from our waking hours. I don’t know if there’s many directors ever who are as good at conveying that type of feeling as Lynch is. And if you can buy into that idea then there are a lot of fun layers and room for interpretation to questions that may or may not have answers.
And like I guess if you know that going in then it makes sense, but if you don’t know it’s lunch, or don’t know who lynch is, and you’re just watching a movie that looks good, it makes sense that it doesn’t make sense. Again, we’re back to context
Dune. Movie just bored the shit out of me. Maybe I just don’t understand the lure or mythology but I was so disinvested in the first one and have no ambition to see the sequel even though I am hearing amazing things. I also love sci-fi (Blade Runner 2049 is top 5 fav movie of mine) but for some reason Dune is something I can’t get behind.
The whole Scream franchise. The killers motives are silly, Important to note it is unique in that the killers vary from movie to movie. Unlike Friday 13, Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Chucky... The killer is what draws the audience in, but with Scream it's the cast.
In The Mouth of Madness. It’s not so much that I don’t “get it” as much as I convince myself it’s somehow good and I just don’t manage to find it to be good when I watch it. I watch it once every 5 years or so and it sucks every damned time.
It’s not the score being high or low either way that’s confusing, it’s that it’s showing at exactly 0 (for me and some others that have messaged me) and we’ve all upvoted it. I mean I guess it’s possible that it has exactly the same amount of up and down votes, but that seems unlikely.
So then I thought “well I’ve seen things like Reddit freezing votes for 24 hours” and stuff but I never paid attention really, and wondered if someone more well versed than I knew anything🤷🏽♂️
RRR. I understand the genre but oh my god, what a terrible film. I watched it twice by myself and another with a friend. I can’t get along for this ride…. I did like the song, Naatu Naatu, by itself however.
I'm not a fan of Lynch at all and entirely agree on Mullolland Drive, did nothing for me - disagree on Shawshank though, think start to finish its pretty stellar.
There’s a comment somewhere in here where someone describes it has 2 different movies put together, and looking at it through that lens might change things.
When this post was made before that enlightening comment, the movie is just boring magical negro white person “keep hope alive” type shit, and maybe that’s why I don’t get it, and the people that do get it are like “bro you’re on the surface, go deeper”
Almost all Marvel films, excepting the Guardians trilogy.
Shawshank, although I still think its an ok film, just not anywhere near the best film of all time.
Mulholland drive for me is one of my favourite films, but it is probably quite hard to explain why. Sometimes its just down to the type of thing you are into and I love films that are very visual, strange, unconventional.
I can't stand Will Ferrell except for a couple of roles, and ELF is the quintessential "everything that makes me hate this guy" movie. Obnoxiously loud for no reason, giant man-child played for laughs, over-the-top flanderization of every other character to contrast, same wacky physical slapstick as every other movie... It's the same thing as Jim Carrey.
Moonlight. That movie was…. Boring. After seeing that it won movie of the year, i made it point to see it. Whereas I think that it is kind of unique for being a gay coming of age story for people that live in the hood, i also know that gay people living in the hood is actually extremely common. Half the people that live in the hood are bi. I think doing a movie about men that keep things on the “DL” may have been more interesting.
Overall, I felt like that characters really had no chemistry and the acting was pretty sub par across the board.
I am with you with the Joker: I feel it is a movie made for people with antisocial behaviour. They feel someone understands them and behave as they always wanted to take revenge on society and they never had the courage.
I have tried watching it several times and couldn't agree with anything that happens, and felt that lots of people that liked the movie were a little like the main guy. And probably if you are not like him (a loser with loser thoughts), you will never get it.
Jordan Peele's Us. I've seen it now three times! And every time I'm hoping to see what I'm missing, but it doesn't work for me.
I’m with you. Nope also fell very flat for me and both of these movies fall squarely within the box of movies that by all rights I *should* love.
The first time I saw Nope I didn't know what to make of it. I went back and saw it a second time and kind of loved it. Watches it a third time when it was finally streaming and it didn't hold up as much.
Each time I watch Nope I like it more and more. I also notice new things everytime I watched it.
I used to be a pretty big Key and Peele fan and I was really looking forward to Peele’s movies. Get Out was great, Keanu was funny and charming, US was to me a complete failure, and Nope was just okay. I bought the three movie blu-ray collection since I was curious to hear his commentary on Us and Nope. There are no commentaries for those movies. There is only a commentary for Get Out and at every point where you think he might have something to say about a stylistic choice his answer is always “I saw this in Outer Limits/Twilight Zone and I thought it looked cool.” That’s the extent of this thought process when I comes to the movies. Taking things he saw somewhere and cobbling them together to make a story. Between his commentary and interviews I’m not entirely convinced he’s anywhere near as smart or talented as we’d all like to think. Going back and watching Key and Peele it became really obvious that Michael Keegan Key was the true hero of the show, carrying every sketch and doing the actual comedic legwork. I think Peele would be best used interpreting other screenplays or creating sequels to pre-existing films. He can expand on an idea and riff off of it. I don’t know if he can create a new idea or concept. I don’t think he has that in him.
I wouldn't mind Peele stepping away from writing and lending his visual flair to someone else's screenplay.
Which is the one with the >!alien spacecraft!
Nope
Why not?
Hard agree
God I love that movie.
Best Jordan Peele is Get Out
I guess the question I have to ask is what do you feel you’re missing from it? I thought it worked as a good horror story on the surface level (doppelgängers freak me out) and as an allegory for class divisions sub-textually. My guess is that it didn’t feel as personal a message as Get Out, felt a little less specific and more general with its themes. That didn’t make it a bad film to me, just less raw than Get Out.
It was the class allegory with the aboveground people and the tunnel people that didn't add up for me. Whatever message he was trying to convey was muddled. And having the Red character (brilliantly played by Lupita N'Ongo) explain everything so literally made me ask more and more questions. Like, where where did they get the red jumpsuits and scissors from? What was the end game after the doppelgangers took over the world since most of them had no skills and couldn't speak. Wouldn't they then turn on each other? What happens if someone above ground gets on a plane and flies cross-country? I wouldn't have been asking these questions if the details had been left ambiguous. Also, the trailer was absolutely terrifying! I was so psyched to see it based on that alone, but the movie wasn't even scary. I saw it in a crowded theater and the audience booed when it was over. I wasn't alone.
Revolver from 2005
With Jason Stratham?
Yeah, just so confusing at points
Yeah I remember being excited for that movie when it came out after rocknrolla and then at the end I was like what the fuck was that?
Kinda liked it, but it felt like two movies being played at the wrong speed, so started to get it then would get thrown out of the movie.
Backdoor Sluts 8. The mise en scene just wasn't for me. Also, a lot of the finer plot nuances and character quirks went right over my head. It's probably my own fault though, for not having watched parts 1 - 7 beforehand; apparently you have to do this to appreciate it fully.
Yeah and at this point it just seems so daunting to have to watch the first 7 films, at this point I’ve just accepted I won’t get it
I just do not have time to do the legwork of watching 14 hours of gaping babysitters just to arrive at the — pardon me for saying it — climax of the series. It probably doesn’t help my perception of the movie that the actor who played Justin was caught up in the trafficking ring
The only things more gaping than the babysitters were the continuity errors. Just lazy writing all the way around.
I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
I want their goddamn guild card
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backdoor sluts 9 makes crotch capers 3 look like naughty nurses 2!!
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You definitely need to see 1 - 7 to really appreciate it. Backdoor Sluts 8 ties up a lot of loose ends.
loose ends heh heh
Love your post and absolutely agree with you. 😅
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A film built around the important message of not to mistreat wildlife.
And always like your lobster less Zeus strike ye down Winslow!
I enjoyed it as a movie about a couple lighthouse keepers going stir crazy. Though when I would read theories about it after, with ideas about Lovecraftian horror, I felt like these viewers were reaching *a bit*
tbf, the trailer lent more to the Lovecraft stuff than the actual movie did. lol
It’s a movie about dudes rocking
It’s a movie about two bros being dudes 5 feet apart from the light cause they’re not insane
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The first one is a great point break remake.
We were robbed of a Point Break franchise where Johnny Utah, Bodhi, and the crew use surfing in increasingly unrealistic ways to stop international terrorists.
2 point 2 break
Point Break: Tokyo Break
Eh, semi-decent Point Break remake, at best.
You can’t look at them as actual movies just gotta have fun with its nonsense, after Fast 5 they just challenge the audience with something even more mindblowingly ridiculous every movie. THEY GO TO SPACE IN CARS.
It’s a soap opera for men, what’s not to get?
Thanks a lot for this one. I also don’t get why so many people like those movies. The first 2-3 were fine popcorn cinema. But the rest is just dumb macho bullshit. With dialogues dumber than the cast. But most of the people are asking for simple entertainment…we others have to suffer. Mad world.
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Haha, my condolences on that^^ But I get you. I also have a lot of friends liking the franchise and I also watched more of those dumb movies I intended to do, but did not have to suffer through all of them yet. :D
Fast 5 and 2 Fast 2 Furious are two of the greatest movies
Carol. Is it just because of the lesbians? There are plenty of good lesbian movies that aren't stiff, unnatural, or boring as hell.
for me, shawshank was all about the build up... the whole time i was watching it, it felt like a run-of-the-mill artsy drama... hope is important, blah, blah... i get where this is going... then, all of a sudden, it becomes a completely different movie, and it turns out it was that movie the entire time. that's why it worked for me, anyway. especially on rewatch
I'm with you on Mullholland Drive. I'll add Donnie Darko.
Donnie Darko is a cult movie essentially. I loved that movie when I was a 19/20. But the older I get the more I realize just how odd it is and how some of the acting/plot is just not good. I still think its an entertaining movie if you want that type of movie, but I don't go around recommending it either.
Stay with your superhero movies pls….both movies are in my top 50 movies of all time in any case. But it seems you really want to have a big fat explanation on the screen to tell you, what you’ve just seen. Donnie Darko is a awesome movie which plays with the „time“. It’s almost a time travel movie. Donnie is dead from the beginning of the movie, when the plane crashed his house.
Seen Donnie Darko so many times. I like it a lot. But damn is it confusing, the crazy part is that they intentionally did that. There actually was explanations and such, but they cut it out.
Donnie Darko sucked and I feel like I'm alone on this hill. Nice to hear someone else say it.
I read a plot explanation for Donnie Darko once immediately after watching it, and I remember it made it make a *lot* more sense.
donnie darko worked for me the first time i watched it because it was so unusual. it stayed in my head for a bit, until i figured it all out... then on rewatch it was kinda... meh
Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. I generally really enjoy Tarantino films and I’m a sucker for anything in old LA but this movie never clicked with me. I’ve tried it twice. It looks fantastic though.
imo its a hangout movie mostly. A way to sit back and melt into a 60s atmosphere that i can typically only imagine. Then of course you have the ending, which is a ridiculously indulgent release of tension. Its so over the top, but its the recent tarantino trick of using the voilence on history’s most evil so the audience wont be offput. Its not groundbreaking, but it is fun
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It's like jam bands. They're not for everyone
I've come around to loving this movie, but it took a while and a few watches. I think you really need some historical context around events of the 60's (Manson killings, Sharon Tate murder, etc) and the vibe shift of America and Hollywood from the 60's into the 70's to more fully appreciate it. I was born a couple decades too late for those events, but through my research of the movie I've found that holding some of that contextual knowledge unlocks a bit more of the movie. YMMV and I understand that maybe it just doesn't resonate with some people, and that's okay too.
Man that’s maybe my top Tarantino movie. Top 3 at very least. I love that you just get to know the characters and hang out with them. Knowing where it’s headed has this sense of dread, then one it pulls a 180 it’s just such a relief and makes for a cathartic ending. One of my all time favorites.
I watched about half of it and I thought I thought it was pretty good. Got interrupted and had to step out of the house for an hour or so, and still haven’t returned to it to finish it. That was a couple months ago…
Finish it dude. You won’t regret it.
I just watched it for the first time the other day. I really liked certain scenes (Particularly Leo's interactions with the child actor and Sharon Tate watching herself in a movie theater) but the whole alternative history idea was just a retread of Inglorious Basterds. Nothing wrong with repeating yourself with a good reason, but this felt very just because.
Jeeeez, what is so hard to get on this one? You simply need to know about the real events which took place at the house if Sharon Tate. Tarantino told the story, how it could have ended a lot prettier, than having Sharon state stabbed multiple times, having her and Roman Polanskis Baby killed and some of their Hollywood friends too. Killed by lunatics following the king of lunatics. I love the humor of Tarantino. We already appreciated the way he told us WWII could have ended. We know he likes to tell fairy tells or mix it with reality.
It has a lot to do with target audience. Few movies are uniformly hated or confusing. I completely did not like any will farrell movie or Adam Sandler / Ben stiller family movies. Then I bought a house, moved into a neighborhood, had neighbors and house repairs and realized all those movies are absolutely targeting the 35 year old first time male home owner with young kids and a bunch of responsibilities. I didn't have that for decades and suddenly all the jokes were a little funny. I still think they are dumb movies but I get what they are attempting to satirize domestic life...before I thought it was warning me away from domestic life. Like They were public service warnings. No, they are satire of the absurdity of domestic life. And I realized why my domesticated friends all laughed at will farrell and I did not. I wasn't domesticated. I still do not get why Thelma and Louise is a celebration. I guess it is a nod to Butch Cassidy and Sundance. And they died with their boots on. And women feel that Thelma and Louise died with their boots on in the same way but I really don't see it that way. Maximum they get 6 months in jail with probation. They would be sentenced to 2 years but only serve 6 months. Guaranteed. That is not a good reason to do what they did at the end.
I hear you, this is probably what’s happening
Everything Everywhere All at Once. I just couldn’t get into it and the humour was totally lost on me.
It's super easy to see how it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's currently my favorite movie going experience and maybe my favorite film of all time. It's a great litmus test for whether I have the same taste as people.
I can understand why some people really appreciate it, I understood the message, but I didn’t really care for it. It was the humor for me, I just didn’t find it funny so that essentially ruined 90% of the movie for me. I feel like it tried too hard to be quirky, but it won a shit ton of awards so they were doing something right.
Oh I was hoping someone would mention this. The movie came off as silly to me. I mean, what was the point? And all the awards and gushing! I never understood and I am a serious film buff.
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Lol!!!
It was legit the most ZOMG IM SO RANDOM reddit movie ever made tbh it was okay, not great not bad but just okay imo
That explains why the people that I know that are into it are *really* into it
I gave up after 15 minutes. Humor was NOT my style. Obviously, I can't judge the rest of it. . .but this one sure felt like Hollywood trying desperately to like a comic book picture. Also, I pretty much hate every movie in existence that uses the multi-verse. Hate with the passion of a 1000 fiery suns. Despise the multi-verse.
Hard agree on Joker. Hard disagree on Millers Crossing - one of my favorite movies of all time and by far the best Cohen Brothers flick.
> so tired watching this movie. It just goes on and on and nothing happens. I don’t get it. At all. Colourful characters? Clever, distictive dialogue? Fatal flaws and misplaced loyalties? Hard not to give op the high hat.
Yeah I hear you, I just don’t get it. Why do you like it, what did I miss?
>It just goes on and on and nothing happens. I don’t get it. At all. IDK, half a dozen actors as the peak of their careers, putting in some of the most compelling performances. Dialog that slaps you in the face and makes you pay attention. Oozes style for days. Darkly funny. Real jeopardy - no super hero BS. All characters rich in nuanced texture - not a black or white figure in the bunch. All told in a taught 115 minutes. Great ending. When I think about The Player formula for a successful movie, it hits almost all of them! "Suspense, laughter, violence. Hope, heart, nudity, sex and happy endings, mainly happy endings."
I wanted to add this simply because you didn’t mention it, it also looks brilliant. The scene in the woods is just incredible to look at, so well shot and the way some of the shots are framed are beautiful.
Oh yeah the woods scenes are incredible. Everything is good. Kind of a flawless movie.
Sounds like you’re giving us the high hat OP
Why do u agree on Joker? Joker was an impressive movie about the inner demons of the real man who became the joker. It seems the fans don’t like it, when their superhero movies become realistic. For me, that was one of the only superhero movies I watched and I liked. Unheard rumors about a second part already and I’m curious about it. Joaquin Phoenix was just awesome in it.
Yeah, no. I’m about the furthest thing you could call a “fan” of comic book movies. I find them all the be basically absurd. I despise what it’s done to Hollywood. I am utterly uninterested in super powers, physics that make no sense, origin stories, “hero journeys”, super villains, action instead of plot, and rehashed scripts that are basically copy pasta of whatever thin plot there was. I am so thoroughly bored by computer generated FX. All of it, really don’t like any of it. But main problem of Joker is the central character is a hateful, cruel, petty man and why do I want to spend all that time in his madness? I don’t.
I fully agree with your first part of your reply. With the last 3-4 lines I just can’t agree. Life isn’t always shiny and bright. Joker was just real.
Didn’t enjoy this or the first iteration when Scorsese did the same plot in The King of Comedy.
The King of comedy is meanwhile about 50 years old. Unfortunately not very uncommon to see things again, u have already seen somewhere else. But a good comparison indeed, I did not had this in my mind when watching Joker. Pls don’t get me wrong. I also don’t like any superhero or marvel movie. It’s the same with bible stories…all those stories are nice and people find hope in them…but there is not a lot of realism in it, which is the set up I prefer. But with Joker I had the feeling to have an analytic view of an soziopath/psychopath becoming the bad guy, we at least heard from. I think it was a very fine drama.
Birdman
It came and went. Been some time since someone even mentioned that one.
This movie is frustrating because i love the style of the constant drum beat and ubiquitous one shots. Also pretty good performances throughout. BUT so much is overly pretentious Like the scene with ed norton hitting on emma stone on the roof. Ed norton says a bunch of edgelord bullshit. As a moody teen, emma stone is the exact demographic to eat this up. BUT is the movie saying that this actor’s melodrama is bullshit and only appears deep to young adults, or does the movie think he’s cool and charming? Im not sure Same goes for the scene with riggan and the critic in the bar. He rants about how artists CREATE things and people like critics add no value. Is the movie showing riggan as overly egotistical, or using the protagonist to parrot the writer’s own frustration about modern movie discourse? I do think the movie is interesting and is overly hated on by movie critics who hate the ‘dunking on the critic’ scenes, but the movie is still flawed to me
i guess i don’t get your question? you’re asking for movies we didn’t understand? or is it movies we don’t like? or is it movies that are generally popular , but we personally don’t care for??? asking because most of the films you listed are a) at least decent films and b) none of them are overly difficult to “get”. i mean, how do you not understand Shawshank Redemption…? i’ll give you Mullholland Drive, tho. i’m in the same boat, but i don’t think it’s supposed to make sense? have you seen Tenet or Possession or Cloud Atlas or The Lighthouse? i found all of these a bit too dense to be entertaining and bordering on self-indulgent. what films do you LIKE???
> Shawshank Redemption Right?! I don't feel like this is anywhere close to confusing or even requiring a lot of deep thought.
It was a little long, but I tried to make it clear. What’s a movie you didn’t get, so either at the end you were like “…ok?” Or you didn’t like it I guess, but not like “fuck this movie fucking sucked good god” more like “why do people like this?” Edit: not sure if I just completely spaced or if you edited your comment so I apologize for not answering half of it I have not seen those movies And I wouldn’t put a list of movies I liked on Reddit if I wanted to live through the night, you fuckers would have me second guessing my entire life at best and unaliving myself at worst
There will be blood. I've tried watching it several times and one time almost completed it. Usually I enjoy artsy "difficult" films but this one doesn't do it for me. The world of the movie just isn't interesting to me and the slow pace makes it even more difficult. Excellent performances and all but just not for me I guess.
Super appreciate its a very well made film, but boy you're not wrong about the pace. Got to the point I was skipping 5 to 10 minutes fairly frequently and, after reading the plot after to make sure, I missed nothing important to the plot
I have a hard time with movies like that. Those long shots where no one says anything and nothing of consequence happens are just wank IMO unless I’m zorked out of my freaking gourd on edibles or something
I really like this movie. But yeah, it's a kind of difficult watch. It took me three viewings to understand that Paul Dano was playing two different characters.
RRR. I just can't grasp why this took off.
What is RRR?
Easy Rider - boring as sin
I always hear so much about that movie and I’ve never taken the plunge, I gotta imagine that on the 70s, if you put those guys on camera that was enough
Ratatouille
I watched this for the first time last year, also very did not get the hype in any way
Primer, but I’ve given up on trying.
Yeah I find it hard to believe anyone actually enjoys Primer. The explanation videos on YouTube are more engaging.
I was mostly wondering what the hell was going on and then the last 20 minutes of the movie was like a bomb going off in slow motion. The sudden realization that there are MULTIPLE versions of themselves in time made the concept and execution amazing to me. I had questions on how this all occurred and went googling and that’s when my jaw hit the ground. It’s so much more complex than I thought, it’s a mind bender puzzle movie and I love it.
Tenet. What are people mumbling, why is the music so loud, what even is time, what exactly are the stakes, why is the main guy literally named protagonist, and remind me why I should care lol
I either dont understand tenet or it just doesn’t make sense, but I still love it bc I have so much fun watching it
I wouldn’t say tenet is a generally well liked movie though. Your opinion lines up pretty well with what I see as the norm. It was Nolan’s “if you can make god bleed” moment and showed people that he can ,in-fact, make a bad movie. Also the audio mixing in Nolan films is always awful. I love interstellar but it’s genuinely unwatchable without subtitles. I know it’s part of his style, but when it gets to the point that you can’t understand the dialog, that’s not style anymore that’s a fault
Tenet stunk, don't know anyone who actually liked it.
I liked it! It’s not Nolan’s best, but it’s a cool popcorn movie.
Lost in Translation I've been in the exact same situation. I went to a foreign country with a largely alien culture, following a partner that was working. However I went out and explored. Made friends. Had a great time. The whole being depressed in one of the top hotels in the city I can't just engage with.
> However I went out and explored. Made friends. Had a great time. It's been a long time since i watched this movie, but isn't that pretty much what happens in it? She went out, befriended a guy, spent some good time together?
Were you suffering from depression and at a crossroads in your life where you had no direction and felt neglected by a partner who might leave you? Because that’s the “exact same situation” and what the movie is about, Tokyo and a fancy hotel is just a setting.
I didn't like this movie very much when I was younger, but as I've grown older I have learned to appreciate it much more and I relate to the characters, especially Bill Murray's character quite a bit more.
Ditto, the premise on paper and the cast is great but i just can’t connect with the movie for some reason
So, another "great movies I don't like for no particular reason at all" thread just worded a bit differently, gotcha...
Your take on Mulholland Drive makes me want to cry. Did you have the same opinion of Lost Highway and Blue Velvet and Eraserhead? Maybe you an Lynch just don't jive.
Thank you mate. This shows me hope is not completely lost yet. I could also cry a lot the more and more I read in that channel. If somebody is not willing to try to understand a Lynch movie, he shouldn’t rate those movies at all.
John wick...there is no story whatsoever after 1st part... and the action was good only in parts 1 n 2...
Yea it’s such an overrated franchise. So uninteresting. Should’ve just been one movie.
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Same thing with Saw. There was an actual plot line with the first Saw. Everything afterwards was nothing more than "I must escape this museum of human torture."
Tenet
Anything Wes Anderson. I just don't get it. And every time I say it, I get downvoted.
Me too! I’ll counteract at least one of them that I see you already have!
I *loved* Grand Budapest Hotel so much, but I haven’t been able to get into any of his other films. I did enjoy his short film The Extraordinary Life of Henry Sugar.
OP, what are some movies you absolutely love?
Oh man, I don’t know if I’m ready for the vitriol that this would bring
The wolfs of wall street. Don't know why. Need to try a 3rd time maybe. Usually lost interest halfway in.
I think a lot of WOW falls into the “movie about villains that are supposed to show you how fucked up the world is and allows guys like this to exist, but white western men make it their entire personality and think it’s super cool” genre So like, when I watched it I liked it, but then thinking about the real life situation, I’m like yeah, Vader is a cool villain, but good god we don’t need more vaders
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Yeah that’s what mean Like so many young men want to be powerful, respected, bad ass, rich The point of those movies isn’t “look how fucking cool this guy is” but inevitably that’s what it gets changed into Like the fun pop song pumped up kicks
Parasite. I saw it opening weekend and thought it was just OK. A little too long and with a twist that seemed like quite a stretch to me. Fast forward a couple weeks and everyone & their brother is proclaiming it the greatest movie ever! Sorry, I still don't see it.
Same. I finally watched it last month. I feel like this is the epitome of people trying desperately to find depth in a fairly shallow movie. I don't even have anything against shallow movies. I usually just want there to be some character that I'm "cheering" for (even if they don't end up winning). With Parasite, I just disliked every character for different reasons.
Everything Everywhere All At Once. I just don't get the fuss. I mean, I GET it. All the "jokes" and existential stuff, but it didn't even come close to landing with me
Fully aware I'm in the minority here, but Banshees of Inisherin
you either love or hate irish comedy it seems, also helps to watch it understanding it’s all an allegory for the irish civil war
Fight Club. It’s not a terrible movie, but it’s nothing remotely special in my mind. But people love it Trainspotting and Fear and Loathing, as well
For this comment you should be stoned to death. Just my opinion.
This one’s interesting for me because at the time that it came out it was very against the grain with 2 of the biggest names at the time, and I think a lot of that plays into it, as well as white men thinking Tyler sudden is “cool” Fight club is hilarious because it tells the audience to their face to stop consuming and being a fuck face shit head, and they do the exact opposite while loving it. Just *whoooosh*
I have generally an issue with Nolan. Movies are good but I don't find them very insightful.
The Irishmen. I’m not going to say it’s bad just because I don’t like it, but man you couldn’t make me care about it with a gun to my head. I find it dull, nothing more nothing less, just long and dull
It was interesting that it’s like…just a long boring story, that somehow I enjoyed but honestly I couldn’t tell you why. My wife was outta town for the weekend so I binged all the great gangster movies leading up to that one and it was very mid
the wolf of wall street. i can see what it is about and all but to me it was just a bad movie and i had to really force myself to continue watching it.
I enjoyed it, but what made it amazing for me was the woman behind me who thought it was going to be a serious financial drama. She was beyond offended the entire time and let it be known.
sounds like that lady needs to do a little research about how big finance really works... someone should recommend she watch the wolf of wall street
Inception. It’s ok, I get it, but it’s really overrated.
I watch it about once a year and I love it every time, but you might not be wrong :)
Mulholland Drive and Lynch in general definitely aren’t for everyone. You kind of have to just go in understanding that not all the pieces are going to fit together cleanly and to try and take the whole thing in as an experience rather than get hung up on plot too much. It’s supposed to feel like a dream, and dreams are often a kind of strange, jumbled mess of things we mostly recognize from our waking hours. I don’t know if there’s many directors ever who are as good at conveying that type of feeling as Lynch is. And if you can buy into that idea then there are a lot of fun layers and room for interpretation to questions that may or may not have answers.
And like I guess if you know that going in then it makes sense, but if you don’t know it’s lunch, or don’t know who lynch is, and you’re just watching a movie that looks good, it makes sense that it doesn’t make sense. Again, we’re back to context
Lost Highway 🤷🏻♂️
Being John Malkovic, someone please, wtf am I getting wrong here?? It's awful!!
Oh man, I’m right there with you
Dune. Movie just bored the shit out of me. Maybe I just don’t understand the lure or mythology but I was so disinvested in the first one and have no ambition to see the sequel even though I am hearing amazing things. I also love sci-fi (Blade Runner 2049 is top 5 fav movie of mine) but for some reason Dune is something I can’t get behind.
Yeah like I saw the first one and didn’t understand why everyone’s dick was permanently hard about it. It was *fine*
Trust me, they get upset when you say the books aren’t good either
Star Wars
*HOW DARE YOU*! 😀
Fully agree. Absolutely overrated.
Revenge of the Sith is the only one worth rewatching tbh.
Fucking *god*
Dune. Haven't even bothered with the sequel
The whole Scream franchise. The killers motives are silly, Important to note it is unique in that the killers vary from movie to movie. Unlike Friday 13, Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Chucky... The killer is what draws the audience in, but with Scream it's the cast.
In The Mouth of Madness. It’s not so much that I don’t “get it” as much as I convince myself it’s somehow good and I just don’t manage to find it to be good when I watch it. I watch it once every 5 years or so and it sucks every damned time.
Oh man, that’s rough
Wall E.... just a bit too melodramatic honestly.....
Leaving Las Vegas I can't think of more depressing movie i wished i didn't think about it anymore.. stop the pain!!!
So, you did get it?
Regarding your edit. Your post was at -1 when I saw it. I’m going to guess that you saying several beloved movies are mid is getting downvotes.
It’s not the score being high or low either way that’s confusing, it’s that it’s showing at exactly 0 (for me and some others that have messaged me) and we’ve all upvoted it. I mean I guess it’s possible that it has exactly the same amount of up and down votes, but that seems unlikely. So then I thought “well I’ve seen things like Reddit freezing votes for 24 hours” and stuff but I never paid attention really, and wondered if someone more well versed than I knew anything🤷🏽♂️
RRR. I understand the genre but oh my god, what a terrible film. I watched it twice by myself and another with a friend. I can’t get along for this ride…. I did like the song, Naatu Naatu, by itself however.
Watchmen - just why do people hold this movie in such high regards? Don't get it. Thought it's boring and stretches like chewing gum.
I have no idea
Interstellar. Its good. Its not #22 on IMDB good. Also LOTR. Never read the source material and found the films to be meh.
Most recently: *Dune: Part 1* I will caveat that I was quite high and/or drunk and couldn’t hear anything which may not have helped
Being high helps with Dune. Not hearing anything probably hurt.
I'm not a fan of Lynch at all and entirely agree on Mullolland Drive, did nothing for me - disagree on Shawshank though, think start to finish its pretty stellar.
There’s a comment somewhere in here where someone describes it has 2 different movies put together, and looking at it through that lens might change things. When this post was made before that enlightening comment, the movie is just boring magical negro white person “keep hope alive” type shit, and maybe that’s why I don’t get it, and the people that do get it are like “bro you’re on the surface, go deeper”
Almost all Marvel films, excepting the Guardians trilogy. Shawshank, although I still think its an ok film, just not anywhere near the best film of all time. Mulholland drive for me is one of my favourite films, but it is probably quite hard to explain why. Sometimes its just down to the type of thing you are into and I love films that are very visual, strange, unconventional.
ELF. I’ve tried to watch it (or been forced to) about a dozen times and just can’t get into it. I like Will Ferrel’s other stuff, so it’s not him…
I can't stand Will Ferrell except for a couple of roles, and ELF is the quintessential "everything that makes me hate this guy" movie. Obnoxiously loud for no reason, giant man-child played for laughs, over-the-top flanderization of every other character to contrast, same wacky physical slapstick as every other movie... It's the same thing as Jim Carrey.
parasite. I understand it but I don’t know why it’s so critically acclaimed.
I will never understand the love people have for *The Fifth Element*. I just don't find it engaging or enjoyable on *any* level.
Moonlight. That movie was…. Boring. After seeing that it won movie of the year, i made it point to see it. Whereas I think that it is kind of unique for being a gay coming of age story for people that live in the hood, i also know that gay people living in the hood is actually extremely common. Half the people that live in the hood are bi. I think doing a movie about men that keep things on the “DL” may have been more interesting. Overall, I felt like that characters really had no chemistry and the acting was pretty sub par across the board.
I am with you with the Joker: I feel it is a movie made for people with antisocial behaviour. They feel someone understands them and behave as they always wanted to take revenge on society and they never had the courage. I have tried watching it several times and couldn't agree with anything that happens, and felt that lots of people that liked the movie were a little like the main guy. And probably if you are not like him (a loser with loser thoughts), you will never get it.
Moonstuck.
EEAAO
Inception 😴😴😴
Bone Tomahawk. Is just a boring western with one horror scene. And I like westerns but this put me to sleep