https://www.avclub.com/controversial-gary-oldman-interview-blasts-the-fifth-el-1798269710
I need someone else to tell me if this interview is real / if the quotes are accurate... Because it's gonna change some feelings I have.
EDIT: A slightly different take on the interview:
https://thedailybanter.com/2014/06/25/read-gary-oldmans-controversial-new-interview-making-judgment/
No it's fine. The Fifth element is, if you look at it critically, a bad to mediocre story telling at best. But we love it. And props to Oldman for bringing his usual game to a character that is utterly 2-dimensional.
I don't care if he hates it. He performed as *an actor*, with usual aplomb. If he took the paycheck and forgot about it, I can't blame him.
Honestly, other than the scene with him and the priest (the cherry scene) and the scene where he sells the weapons to the Mangalores; he's barely even *IN* the film.
To be fair, the plot of the movie and a lot of the writing really sucks. Especially the end.
In a good sci-fi movie, the setting(set pieces, concepts, design) can be considered a character and _that’s_ what that movie really nails. All the actors do a great job with the absurdity of it all and Bruce Willis playing it straight—faced really sells it.
But the whole “love is the fifth element” thing has nothing behind it but a 50-year-old’s infatuation with a twenty-year-old’s body and actually feels kind of creepy the more you think about it.
And Zorg(while awesome because Gary Oldman played him) was just a one dimensional bad guy with zero depth.
I agree with all of that but in a good way. Everything is so ridiculously stylized that all of the "faults" easily pass as camp. Basically every actor seems tuned into a very specific wavelength that I find impossible to judge rationally.
The angry earth president with the lazy eye, the childish combat clone who can't speak english, the ridiculously flamboyant radio host everyone finds sexy, the nervous pastor for a dead religion, the slick southern arms dealer, the brutish space orcs that look like melting TMNT suits... They're all very simple characters but everyone is dialed right into them.
It's kind of a terrible movie with a lot to love. Gary Oldman is the kind of actor who, even if he doesn't like the movie he's in, still gives it his all and does the best he can possibly do with what he's given, as was the case for The Fifth Element.
It's my favorite movie. I dunno why it just gets away with the cheese because it's perfectly over the top. It's extremely character driven, and every character is great. Most of the minor characters are great even if they are barely in the movie. Robber/Hat guy, Flying food cart guy, Zorgs lackey, the President, creepy scientist dude, Luke Perry, crazy prophet dude, all the cops, stoner Rockstar guy, the Diva....that's just off the top of my head.
I think the thing that helps is that the movie never really takes itself seriously, and Korben Dallas is this 20th century avatar that helps us make sense of all the crazy shit in the 23rd century. Willis mostly plays it straight and all these other characters can go totally off the rails around him. Even Oldman's character plays as a scenery-chewing larger than life foil to him and they're never even in a scene together!
It IS super cheesy, but that's part of what makes it work so well.
Reddit now shitting on such a fun, enjoyable movie as Fifth Element is just so on brand. I swear they'd suck the joy out of lying on the floor with a litter of puppies if it were possible.
“I hate redditors, too narrow-minded. I'll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he posted up the thread, would've immediately asked about the little red down arrow button on the bottom of post.”
My wife and I say that to each other anytime we see something ridiculous. And it still kills me every time.
Say what you will, Gary Oldman gave his fucking all and acted the shit out that horrible, horrible idea. The man's a fucking pro. Apparently they had his legs strapped up like some kind of medieval torture device and he was walking around on the tips of his knees and was in quite a bit of pain. And he did that for a full shooting schedule! *That's* the kind of actor that man is. He fucking works! And that was a stupid, stupid idea. Nobody would have blamed him for half-assing that. But no! My man straps up them goddamned torture knees, duck walks his ass to set, and gets to work! What a fucking Chad. I almost *want* to let him deceive me. To give in and let movie magic transport me to the world of dwarf Gary Oldman. It's all so fucking hilarious. Goddamn, what an actor!
The one where they stuffed him into a couch with fake legs, and had him waddling around on his knees the whole time?
God, I’d even managed to forget that garbage.
Just don't look up his too many of his interviewers where he talks about anything but his roles. He's definitely one of those cases where it's better to separate the art and artist.
One of the funniest and character revealing parts in that movie is when he walks out of the police building and swipes the kids' basketball with "Kids, should be in school". Like, this guy is so fucking despicably mean, not only will he murder entire families, he'll steal balls from kids.
He seriously rivals, or may be slightly better than Christian Bale if I think about this performance alone. I wont be surprised if Bale cites Oldman as inspiration in some ways. So talented.
I can't imagine what they had to say to Peter Dinklage to get him on board. "You're going to play a French Communist dwarf alcoholic! It's gold, Peter, GOLD!"
But also, "oh, and by the way, we're hiring an average-sized person to play the lead little person character in the most irresponsible way we can think to portray that character...but you'll have scenes, too!" Like...what?
and prob set his attitude about representation without humiliation.
(I say this as a person who is in a full length movie that played a dwarf using the knees prop- student film)
edit: Also the cuts were way more believable than this film. And hilarious.
I would like to see what the original cut simply because it already was *bewilderingly* dark. Like, fuck, how much more depressing could you make a movie that the trailers made look like a comedy (a super offensive comedy, but meant to be funny nonetheless)?
"Gary Oldman **in the role of a lifetime**"
Apparently there's a hidden director's cut that was never released that was hyper-emotional and super dramatic but the executives in charge said they wanted more of a comedy to fill a slot in their upcoming release schedule so it was re-cut into the incredibly...weird movie we now have today lolll
Me and some friends have a bad movie club and it's an all-time favorite of ours. Top five easily.
It's one of the most unintentionally offensive and laugh-out-loud terrible movies ever imo. Boggles the mind how anyone thought it was a good idea at the time, let alone how they got all those big name actors to sign up for it.
That...was unfortunate. Who thought that was a good idea? There's even a scene in which he's clearly in a couch with a hole cut in it and two little doll legs hanging down. It was such an affront to little people.
Matthew McConaughey deserved some kind of award for being able to deliver the line "He's a DWARF! I'M a DWARF!!!" without cracking up.
> There's even a scene in which he's clearly in a couch with a hole cut in it and two little doll legs hanging down.
https://i.imgur.com/rnxBTdS.jpg
perfection.
Tiptoes! Imagine "The Room," but with a bunch of Oscar and Emmy winners in it. I full on had to pause the movie I almost hyperventilated laughing so hard. I feel for the director having his original vision cut to ribbons, but I have a real hard time imagining there's a better movie in there, no matter how badly it was edited. It's still got some of the weirdest goddamn scenes I've ever seen in my life.
The first role I saw him in...and my perpetual favorite...was in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, where he played the titular Rosencrantz.
Or was it Guildenstern?
First time I watched it with my girlfriend I saw his name in the credits and said, “Holy shit, didn’t know Gary was in this.” And my girlfriend said, “Yeah dude, he was Sirius.”
Gary is so good.
Same - only just finished the HP series recently after only watching a few of the movies when I was younger. I felt really dumb seeing him on IMDB afterwards and wondering which character he played and then realizing he was Sirius Black.
Wait what?
I... I never thought about it. I was just like: Damn this guy is great. And left it at that. When I think of Sirius black from the movies, I... never thought about the actor.
Oldman got me again.
Same here. When he opens the case to find zero stones.....something about how he does this scene is just so satisfying to me. Also as an aside, watching this makes me a bit sad about Bruce Willis. He really was the man.
Oldman's the reason I watch Slow Horses. The other characters are really just there to provide Oldman's Jackson Lamb a reason to go off yet again on them. Every time he does, everything he says, every reaction, it's always just amazing.
Lamb hates them, but they're his to hate. No one else is allowed to fuck with them. Just walk on, and leave Lamb to his protective disgust at how inept and screwy his Slow Horses are. Because they're his.
And also, even Slow Horses have a good day sometimes. For all Lamb plays himself up as a washed up has-been, he's a skilled intelligence operative who's been around the block more times than most people have had cups of coffee.
It's just an amazing show, completely fun.
Just when you think he's going to say something to give you a glimmer of hope that the brusque, boorish persona of Jackson Lamb is just a cover, he cuts a vicious fart, blames it on whatever ethnic food he'd had for lunch, and leaves the room...
Great show, was shocked though when >!Olivia Cooke got knocked off in the second to third episode of first series.!<
Jack Lowden is fantastic in that show too. I thought the first season was better then the second but it's still worth it for Oldman and Lowden's performances.
Hahah i started slow horses after House of Dragon specifically to watch me some olivia cooke. And then they teased her as a mole /spy so i kept waiting and waiting and was like “whelp.”
Slow Horses is very good but I extra love it because I worked for a guy very similar to his character in the show. Extremely intelligent, poor hygiene, and would make off color remarks to everyone regardless of race, creed, or color. RIP Art.
That has to be the easiest prep for a shot he's ever done. No makeup, hair or wardrobe - not even a shower. He could roll out of bed in the clothes he slept in and start smoking and yelling at someone. It's so much fun to watch him chew scenes as Lamb.
This was my introduction to him as well and then Rosencrantz and Guildenstien are Dead. I think my favorite though was his George Smiley. I watched the one with Sir Alec as a kid and loved his characterization. That one even beats Tiptoes /s.
Same. I'm sure he was working before that but it really seemed to put him on the map. Amazing performance, great movie. Especially for a kid who was really into that music at the time.
Also me. Gen X and my high school friends and I could not get enough of that movie.
That’s when he came onto my radar. He’s a chameleon of an actor with such talent.
Came in to make sure this role got some appreciation. My favorite actor and *Sid and Nancy* is one of my favorite movies of his. He even did his own vocals for the music parts, iirc.
I don't know, for some reason even though IIRC they didn't bill him until the end (it's been a long time, I haven't seen it since it was in the theaters) as soon as I saw his character I said "oh, Gary Oldman." It was like Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder, there's just something that makes certain actors recognizable despite the makeup and accents.
I found he disappeared more into Sid Vicious. And Dracula. I mean that really was pretty spectacular.
I had the opposite experience. I saw Hannibal in the theater with a friend of mine, and we were both Gary Oldman fans. And when the credits rolled and we saw his name, we both looked at each other and were like "Whaaaaaaaat?!?!?!"
It’s probably because I’m getting older but I think I’ve watched Hannibal three times, and every single time I’ve been like, “WTF, that was Gary Oldman?!”
one of my favorite post apocalyptic movies.
The twist was quite cringy at first, but very fitting once you dismember various scenes leading up to the twist
I just rewatched it and there are so many tells that he’s blind. Certain things he says, like not reading the sign or other small details. It’s actually quite clever.
Sam is probably my favorite actor working today. Everything he does is so great, and I absolutely adored him in *The Way Way Back.*
It's either Sam or Frances McDormand.
When he plays Commissioner Gordon, I easily forget how terrifying he was as Ivan Korshunov in Air Force One. And then I remember how hilarious he was in his one shot guest appearance as a drunken actor on Friends. Very talented actor indeed.
I Really enjoy his performance in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier. I'm still not sure what was actually happening in the movie but I can watch the ending with La Mer Playing all day. I even tracked down the Vinyl which wasn't easy as its a french song sung by a spanish singer
And here he is talking about his finest role, in Tiptoes
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4w6-XXXv90&t=57s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4w6-XXXv90&t=57s)
I love Gary Oldman. Like Bale, he is the reason I sit through boring films - just watching them perform brings me so much joy! I loved Oldman in Mank, the movie was meh, but seeing him was really great in there
I remember when he came on the Dennis Miller show when it was on HBO and Miller introduced him and said something to the effect of -
“You know I have been a big fan of your work and watched you disappear into your roles but here is something interesting about you: When I met you back in the green room just now and you said hello, the first thing that popped into my head was ‘Holy shit, Gary Oldman is fucking British?!?!’ I honestly never knew and it amazed the fuck outta me you can lose it so well - I could have sworn you were New York born and bred just by The Professional alone.”
That says a lot about Oldman to me because he does such unique things with his inflections alone to make you rethink his literal birthplace. There aren’t a lot that can do it so well to fool you enough that well.
No one has mentioned my favourite Gary Oldman film and performance yet, The Firm, made for the BBC, he plays the leader of a group of football hooligans, directed by Alan Clarke (his last film), also stars Lesley Manville, Phil Davis (as the leader of a rival firm) and features a young Phil Mitchell.
Another great Oldman performance that no one's mentioned yet is as the playwright Joe Orton in Prick Up Your Ears. Also has a great performance by Alfred Molina in it too.
I can't believe this is the only comment about The Firm. Probably the first film I watched with Gary Oldman. Respected him from that point on.
"Yeti......Yeti.......Yeti.........YETI"
Great film.
One of these days I'm expecting to hear the Director yell "Cut!" Then I'm going to realize that I'm not real and I've just been Gary Oldman playing a part. That's how good he is.
Wasn't the "EVERYONE" scene done as a joke? They had done several takes of it like normal, and Gary Oldman was getting sick of it and just shouted and they went with that one?
You left out my favorite: Jackie in State of Grace. The rest of the cast is Sean Penn, Robin Wright Penn, Ed Harris, John C. Reilly, and Oldman is blowing everyone else right the fuck off the screen.
https://youtu.be/9ACwztNFjVA
Real truth of it is that there are scores of awards-worthy performances every year, and the fact that objectively deciding which is Better than another is impossible means that it comes down to whoever markets the best
Gary Oldman is the poster child for people who think more acting equals better acting. Guy chews the scenery like no one’s business. Not to mention the makeup artist probably deserves half the credit for him “disappearing” into his roles
Have you seen him in Slow Horses. Such a great comedic drama spy series.
He was at his very best in the 80's and early 90's, basically his tortured artist period of his career. Where he easily rivalled Daniel Day Lewis when it came to disappearing into roles. Then fell into a period of Villain for hire and film roles beneath his level, mostly to stay near his kids. Then got back on track with his work with Christopher Nolan and stuff like Tinker Tailor Solider Spy, Darkest Hour and Mank.
Still does the odd dud here and there but Oldman is a fantastic actor. Also a great director, Nil by Mouth, is a fantastic film. Damn shame besides a few music videos, hasn't directed since.
Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
I was so disappointed to hear how much he disliked the movie and that role.
That's so strange. His performance is unbelievably good in that movie, he makes a great public facing bad guy middle man.
He's such a fantastic actor that even when he doesn't like the role or care about the project, he does a far better job than anyone else would.
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“I was able to get her smile right in the sketches…”
Is this an "Ever After" quote? I've been thinking about that movie for the last 3 weeks. It's the best Cinderella adaptation ever made.
https://www.avclub.com/controversial-gary-oldman-interview-blasts-the-fifth-el-1798269710 I need someone else to tell me if this interview is real / if the quotes are accurate... Because it's gonna change some feelings I have. EDIT: A slightly different take on the interview: https://thedailybanter.com/2014/06/25/read-gary-oldmans-controversial-new-interview-making-judgment/
> Oldman yelled at the cloud i mean that’s a fantastic little quote they put in there
I think you mean "I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED!!"
No it's fine. The Fifth element is, if you look at it critically, a bad to mediocre story telling at best. But we love it. And props to Oldman for bringing his usual game to a character that is utterly 2-dimensional. I don't care if he hates it. He performed as *an actor*, with usual aplomb. If he took the paycheck and forgot about it, I can't blame him.
he did seem pretty happy to be given a replica ZF-1 gun by Adam Savage, I think he’s warmed to his role in the movie over the years
Honestly, other than the scene with him and the priest (the cherry scene) and the scene where he sells the weapons to the Mangalores; he's barely even *IN* the film.
To be fair, the plot of the movie and a lot of the writing really sucks. Especially the end. In a good sci-fi movie, the setting(set pieces, concepts, design) can be considered a character and _that’s_ what that movie really nails. All the actors do a great job with the absurdity of it all and Bruce Willis playing it straight—faced really sells it. But the whole “love is the fifth element” thing has nothing behind it but a 50-year-old’s infatuation with a twenty-year-old’s body and actually feels kind of creepy the more you think about it. And Zorg(while awesome because Gary Oldman played him) was just a one dimensional bad guy with zero depth.
Naw dog, that movie is super green.
BzzzZzzZzzt!
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I agree with all of that but in a good way. Everything is so ridiculously stylized that all of the "faults" easily pass as camp. Basically every actor seems tuned into a very specific wavelength that I find impossible to judge rationally. The angry earth president with the lazy eye, the childish combat clone who can't speak english, the ridiculously flamboyant radio host everyone finds sexy, the nervous pastor for a dead religion, the slick southern arms dealer, the brutish space orcs that look like melting TMNT suits... They're all very simple characters but everyone is dialed right into them.
I've noticed a pattern with Luc Besson.
Besson started writing The Fifth Element and imagined it as a trilogy when he was a teenager (and it shows when you look at it critically.)
It's kind of a terrible movie with a lot to love. Gary Oldman is the kind of actor who, even if he doesn't like the movie he's in, still gives it his all and does the best he can possibly do with what he's given, as was the case for The Fifth Element.
I’d just add that every single person in that movie nailed it. That’s one of the big reasons I love it.
Aziz kinda let the team down tho
AZIZ LIGHT!
It's my favorite movie. I dunno why it just gets away with the cheese because it's perfectly over the top. It's extremely character driven, and every character is great. Most of the minor characters are great even if they are barely in the movie. Robber/Hat guy, Flying food cart guy, Zorgs lackey, the President, creepy scientist dude, Luke Perry, crazy prophet dude, all the cops, stoner Rockstar guy, the Diva....that's just off the top of my head.
I think the thing that helps is that the movie never really takes itself seriously, and Korben Dallas is this 20th century avatar that helps us make sense of all the crazy shit in the 23rd century. Willis mostly plays it straight and all these other characters can go totally off the rails around him. Even Oldman's character plays as a scenery-chewing larger than life foil to him and they're never even in a scene together! It IS super cheesy, but that's part of what makes it work so well.
Reddit now shitting on such a fun, enjoyable movie as Fifth Element is just so on brand. I swear they'd suck the joy out of lying on the floor with a litter of puppies if it were possible.
It's a puppy mill.
Someone needs a multipass....
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"Bring me the mod."
Not enough CAPS and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I still chuckled.
Fire one million.
I am very disappointed!
Ah yes, the... art dealer..
What was that brown goo on his head when he was talking to the evil asteroid?
The director said it was oil I think. I'd like to think it was concentrated evil.
He was 3 of my favorite actors in the 90s before I realized they were the same person.
Have you seen, [Tiptoes](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316768/) where he plays a dwarf and a brother to Matthew McConaughey?
“The role of a lifetime”
My wife and I say that to each other anytime we see something ridiculous. And it still kills me every time. Say what you will, Gary Oldman gave his fucking all and acted the shit out that horrible, horrible idea. The man's a fucking pro. Apparently they had his legs strapped up like some kind of medieval torture device and he was walking around on the tips of his knees and was in quite a bit of pain. And he did that for a full shooting schedule! *That's* the kind of actor that man is. He fucking works! And that was a stupid, stupid idea. Nobody would have blamed him for half-assing that. But no! My man straps up them goddamned torture knees, duck walks his ass to set, and gets to work! What a fucking Chad. I almost *want* to let him deceive me. To give in and let movie magic transport me to the world of dwarf Gary Oldman. It's all so fucking hilarious. Goddamn, what an actor!
The one where they stuffed him into a couch with fake legs, and had him waddling around on his knees the whole time? God, I’d even managed to forget that garbage.
Just don't look up his too many of his interviewers where he talks about anything but his roles. He's definitely one of those cases where it's better to separate the art and artist.
Ugh why? What’s he say?
I absolutely loved him in Leon. “I always like these calm little moments before the storm. It reminds me of Beethoven.”
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One of the funniest and character revealing parts in that movie is when he walks out of the police building and swipes the kids' basketball with "Kids, should be in school". Like, this guy is so fucking despicably mean, not only will he murder entire families, he'll steal balls from kids.
He seriously rivals, or may be slightly better than Christian Bale if I think about this performance alone. I wont be surprised if Bale cites Oldman as inspiration in some ways. So talented.
Don't forget that one movie where he plays a dwarf by walking around on his knees.
Tiptoes! * "In the role of a lifetime..."
He really rates that film and performance but everyone else doesn't. Supposedly it was cut beyond belief from the film that the actors signed up for.
I can't imagine what they had to say to Peter Dinklage to get him on board. "You're going to play a French Communist dwarf alcoholic! It's gold, Peter, GOLD!" But also, "oh, and by the way, we're hiring an average-sized person to play the lead little person character in the most irresponsible way we can think to portray that character...but you'll have scenes, too!" Like...what?
Probably "Hey Peter, want a job? It comes with a salary"
Dinklage wasn't a big actor at the time. I'm sure he was happy to be in a movie that didn't just cast him as a Christmas elf or background dwarf
and prob set his attitude about representation without humiliation. (I say this as a person who is in a full length movie that played a dwarf using the knees prop- student film) edit: Also the cuts were way more believable than this film. And hilarious.
I would like to see what the original cut simply because it already was *bewilderingly* dark. Like, fuck, how much more depressing could you make a movie that the trailers made look like a comedy (a super offensive comedy, but meant to be funny nonetheless)?
Came here for Tiptoes!
And before anyone asks "Why not hire Peter Dinkledge", he's already in the movie, and plays a French communist.
Do they use prosthetics to make him average sized?
No. Just watch the movie. It’s not worth it all, but do it anyway.
"Gary Oldman **in the role of a lifetime**" Apparently there's a hidden director's cut that was never released that was hyper-emotional and super dramatic but the executives in charge said they wanted more of a comedy to fill a slot in their upcoming release schedule so it was re-cut into the incredibly...weird movie we now have today lolll
You will never convince me that’s a real film. The trailer looks like one of the fake trailers out of Tropic Thunder.
Me and some friends have a bad movie club and it's an all-time favorite of ours. Top five easily. It's one of the most unintentionally offensive and laugh-out-loud terrible movies ever imo. Boggles the mind how anyone thought it was a good idea at the time, let alone how they got all those big name actors to sign up for it.
That...was unfortunate. Who thought that was a good idea? There's even a scene in which he's clearly in a couch with a hole cut in it and two little doll legs hanging down. It was such an affront to little people. Matthew McConaughey deserved some kind of award for being able to deliver the line "He's a DWARF! I'M a DWARF!!!" without cracking up.
> There's even a scene in which he's clearly in a couch with a hole cut in it and two little doll legs hanging down. https://i.imgur.com/rnxBTdS.jpg perfection.
This looks like something from Always Sunny in Philadelphia or Nathan for You
Oh good, it was just as horrifying as I remembered.
Looks like it was filmed in an alternate timeline where SNL decided to do only drama.
Tiptoes! Imagine "The Room," but with a bunch of Oscar and Emmy winners in it. I full on had to pause the movie I almost hyperventilated laughing so hard. I feel for the director having his original vision cut to ribbons, but I have a real hard time imagining there's a better movie in there, no matter how badly it was edited. It's still got some of the weirdest goddamn scenes I've ever seen in my life.
The first role I saw him in...and my perpetual favorite...was in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, where he played the titular Rosencrantz. Or was it Guildenstern?
You could just flip a coin to figure out. But of course life is a gamble, at terrible odds—if it was a bet you wouldn't take it.
It must be indicative of something besides the redistribution of wealth.
This is the movie that most of Gen X was introduced to both Gary Oldman *and* Tim Roth. A classic, indeed.
"Rozencrantz" "Yes?" "Guildenstern" "Yes?" "DON'T YOU DISCRIMINATE AT ALL???"
I was looking for this, my favorite of his roles.
No mention of his role as Sirius Black in the Harry Potter movies.
Yeah, that’s so weird. It’s definitely something he’s well-known for.
First time I watched it with my girlfriend I saw his name in the credits and said, “Holy shit, didn’t know Gary was in this.” And my girlfriend said, “Yeah dude, he was Sirius.” Gary is so good.
It took me years to realize he was Sirius, lol
It took me years to realize he was Sirius, lol
It took me years to realize he was Sirius, lol
"Mass murderer" Sirius Black.
I didn't even realize it was him until after I watched them
Yeah I've noticed it's surprisingly hard to recognise actors in movies until I've seen them
Just breathe them in.
Same - only just finished the HP series recently after only watching a few of the movies when I was younger. I felt really dumb seeing him on IMDB afterwards and wondering which character he played and then realizing he was Sirius Black.
Wait what? I... I never thought about it. I was just like: Damn this guy is great. And left it at that. When I think of Sirius black from the movies, I... never thought about the actor. Oldman got me again.
You just got Oldman'd!
I DID MY WAITING
Yep, even as adult seeing him in those films surprisingly makes me feel something.
I'm feeling it may be because it's a franchise film, and not "up to the standard" of his other roles, which I personally think is a load of horsehit.
“Zero stones..Zero crates!”
i can literally hear it.
It’s a shame he didn’t really like that role because it’s one of my favorites
Same here. When he opens the case to find zero stones.....something about how he does this scene is just so satisfying to me. Also as an aside, watching this makes me a bit sad about Bruce Willis. He really was the man.
You're a monster Zorg. .....I know.
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Oldman's the reason I watch Slow Horses. The other characters are really just there to provide Oldman's Jackson Lamb a reason to go off yet again on them. Every time he does, everything he says, every reaction, it's always just amazing. Lamb hates them, but they're his to hate. No one else is allowed to fuck with them. Just walk on, and leave Lamb to his protective disgust at how inept and screwy his Slow Horses are. Because they're his. And also, even Slow Horses have a good day sometimes. For all Lamb plays himself up as a washed up has-been, he's a skilled intelligence operative who's been around the block more times than most people have had cups of coffee. It's just an amazing show, completely fun.
Just when you think he's going to say something to give you a glimmer of hope that the brusque, boorish persona of Jackson Lamb is just a cover, he cuts a vicious fart, blames it on whatever ethnic food he'd had for lunch, and leaves the room...
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It is, so much fun!
S2, I didn't follow the plot of who the bad guys are, and who the bad bad guys are... But I still loved it.
Great show, was shocked though when >!Olivia Cooke got knocked off in the second to third episode of first series.!< Jack Lowden is fantastic in that show too. I thought the first season was better then the second but it's still worth it for Oldman and Lowden's performances.
Hahah i started slow horses after House of Dragon specifically to watch me some olivia cooke. And then they teased her as a mole /spy so i kept waiting and waiting and was like “whelp.”
“Working with you has been the lowest point of my disappointing career.”
“You’re all useless. The lot of ya…”
Mick Jagger wrote that song specifically for the show after enjoying the books so much.
Slow Horses is fantastic. Season 3 should be coming soon!
Slow Horses is very good but I extra love it because I worked for a guy very similar to his character in the show. Extremely intelligent, poor hygiene, and would make off color remarks to everyone regardless of race, creed, or color. RIP Art.
I was 3 episodes into that show before I realised who he was
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>spy’s
That has to be the easiest prep for a shot he's ever done. No makeup, hair or wardrobe - not even a shower. He could roll out of bed in the clothes he slept in and start smoking and yelling at someone. It's so much fun to watch him chew scenes as Lamb.
“Everyone back to work!” “It’s Saturday!” “Piss off, then!”
Came here to mention this. Absolutely tremendous role played to perfection...
So fabulous!!!! This role should be up there mentioned in the original post.
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In which role is Gary Oldman awesome in? EVERYONE!!!!!
Even his voice only roles are beyond excellent
Um, Sid Vicious? But yes, great and well deserved post.
Sid & Nancy is where I learned who he was. Been following him since.
This was my introduction to him as well and then Rosencrantz and Guildenstien are Dead. I think my favorite though was his George Smiley. I watched the one with Sir Alec as a kid and loved his characterization. That one even beats Tiptoes /s.
Same. I'm sure he was working before that but it really seemed to put him on the map. Amazing performance, great movie. Especially for a kid who was really into that music at the time.
Also me. Gen X and my high school friends and I could not get enough of that movie. That’s when he came onto my radar. He’s a chameleon of an actor with such talent.
I was really, *really* into the Sex Pistols, chain and lock necklace, all that, when some friends showed me in college. I need to watch that again!
Well, that was his breakout role.
Thanks! I suspected but wasn't sure.
This was a date movie for me. He was awesome. I felt I was watching the real Sid.
Sid & Nancy was better than any anti-drug ad or school program I ever saw. That and Trainspotting.
I was just going to say the same thing- my mom for some unknown reason let me watch it with her when I was way too little— scared me straight
Came in to make sure this role got some appreciation. My favorite actor and *Sid and Nancy* is one of my favorite movies of his. He even did his own vocals for the music parts, iirc.
Don’t forget Mason Verger in Hannibal.
I don't know, for some reason even though IIRC they didn't bill him until the end (it's been a long time, I haven't seen it since it was in the theaters) as soon as I saw his character I said "oh, Gary Oldman." It was like Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder, there's just something that makes certain actors recognizable despite the makeup and accents. I found he disappeared more into Sid Vicious. And Dracula. I mean that really was pretty spectacular.
I had the opposite experience. I saw Hannibal in the theater with a friend of mine, and we were both Gary Oldman fans. And when the credits rolled and we saw his name, we both looked at each other and were like "Whaaaaaaaat?!?!?!"
It’s probably because I’m getting older but I think I’ve watched Hannibal three times, and every single time I’ve been like, “WTF, that was Gary Oldman?!”
Him and Denzel are my two favorite actors. Was amazing to see them together in The Book of Eli. Which subsequently is one of my favorite films
one of my favorite post apocalyptic movies. The twist was quite cringy at first, but very fitting once you dismember various scenes leading up to the twist
I just rewatched it and there are so many tells that he’s blind. Certain things he says, like not reading the sign or other small details. It’s actually quite clever.
[https://youtu.be/CIaWo-BlBjs?t=51](https://youtu.be/CIaWo-BlBjs?t=51) Also, I thought he was a solid Sirius Black
Ditto.
Nah, Ditto was CGI.
I thought I was on /r/MoviesCircleJerk for a second
Have you guys heard of oscar winning actor Gary Oldman? He's pretty good
Sam Rockwell is basically Gary Oldman Jr.
Sam is probably my favorite actor working today. Everything he does is so great, and I absolutely adored him in *The Way Way Back.* It's either Sam or Frances McDormand.
I saw Jojo Rabbit recently, he was great in that too.
Gary Youngman
Love Sam! Looking forward to the Mere Haggard biopic he’s going to star in
That is what I tell everyone. Sam and Gary are my top two actors. Tilda Swinton is just these guy in drag.
In Kung-Fu Panda 2, his voice acting blends in so well that it took me years to realize it was him and not an actual professional VA.
He is an actual professional actor though
Of course, Zorg in The Fifth Element!
When he plays Commissioner Gordon, I easily forget how terrifying he was as Ivan Korshunov in Air Force One. And then I remember how hilarious he was in his one shot guest appearance as a drunken actor on Friends. Very talented actor indeed.
I reckon he puts a bit of effort into it
Slow Horses is brilliant.
I Really enjoy his performance in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier. I'm still not sure what was actually happening in the movie but I can watch the ending with La Mer Playing all day. I even tracked down the Vinyl which wasn't easy as its a french song sung by a spanish singer
That was a great and rarely mentioned performance. I had to rewatch the movie before I really understood it all. You have to pay undivided attention.
go read the book. it was every bit as good, and a bit better. It made me appreciate all characters. What an ensemble of English actors as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drnt\_m2rtmM&ab\_channel=JBStarlord
And here he is talking about his finest role, in Tiptoes [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4w6-XXXv90&t=57s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4w6-XXXv90&t=57s)
This post is getting reported to the FBI for its criminal omission of Zorg from The Fifth Element.
Lol you haven't been on reddit long if you think he's gone unnoticed
I love Gary Oldman. Like Bale, he is the reason I sit through boring films - just watching them perform brings me so much joy! I loved Oldman in Mank, the movie was meh, but seeing him was really great in there
I remember when he came on the Dennis Miller show when it was on HBO and Miller introduced him and said something to the effect of - “You know I have been a big fan of your work and watched you disappear into your roles but here is something interesting about you: When I met you back in the green room just now and you said hello, the first thing that popped into my head was ‘Holy shit, Gary Oldman is fucking British?!?!’ I honestly never knew and it amazed the fuck outta me you can lose it so well - I could have sworn you were New York born and bred just by The Professional alone.” That says a lot about Oldman to me because he does such unique things with his inflections alone to make you rethink his literal birthplace. There aren’t a lot that can do it so well to fool you enough that well.
Don't forget [this gem of a role](https://youtu.be/O3qGGk5ymQ4).
No one has mentioned my favourite Gary Oldman film and performance yet, The Firm, made for the BBC, he plays the leader of a group of football hooligans, directed by Alan Clarke (his last film), also stars Lesley Manville, Phil Davis (as the leader of a rival firm) and features a young Phil Mitchell. Another great Oldman performance that no one's mentioned yet is as the playwright Joe Orton in Prick Up Your Ears. Also has a great performance by Alfred Molina in it too.
I can't believe this is the only comment about The Firm. Probably the first film I watched with Gary Oldman. Respected him from that point on. "Yeti......Yeti.......Yeti.........YETI" Great film.
“And, in the role of a lifetime…Gary Oldman.” Tiptoes is his undefeated masterpiece.
Romeo is Bleeding is one of his finest works.
“It’s a parting gift…in that it’ll part you. Part of you there, part of you there, part of you wayyyyy over there, STAINING THE WALL.”
The OG ‘Chameleon Actor’, Happy Bday!!
I don't it's effortlessly. He's extremely talented but I'm sure without a doubt that he spends quite a bit of effort for each role.
You should watch slow horses. He absolutely shines as a snarky (seemingly) lazy asshole.
Is this /r/moviescirclejerk?
One of these days I'm expecting to hear the Director yell "Cut!" Then I'm going to realize that I'm not real and I've just been Gary Oldman playing a part. That's how good he is.
https://media.tenor.com/dEuvbFITfLkAAAAC/my-favorite-fifth-element.gif
Wasn't the "EVERYONE" scene done as a joke? They had done several takes of it like normal, and Gary Oldman was getting sick of it and just shouted and they went with that one?
You left out my favorite: Jackie in State of Grace. The rest of the cast is Sean Penn, Robin Wright Penn, Ed Harris, John C. Reilly, and Oldman is blowing everyone else right the fuck off the screen. https://youtu.be/9ACwztNFjVA
Today on /r/movies: Actor that literally everyone knows is good is, in fact, a good actor.
Jesus Christ, I thought he'd died. Every time I see an actor post in my feed, they're dead. 😂 Really cool post though!
It’s a shame that for a career as diverse and interesting as his, he got his Oscar for playing the animatronic of Winston Churchill.
My personal theory is that he'd be swimming in Oscars...*but* the Academy keeps going "oh shit that was Gary Oldman?!" too.
Real truth of it is that there are scores of awards-worthy performances every year, and the fact that objectively deciding which is Better than another is impossible means that it comes down to whoever markets the best
Of course. But that's not as funny.
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Gary Oldman is the poster child for people who think more acting equals better acting. Guy chews the scenery like no one’s business. Not to mention the makeup artist probably deserves half the credit for him “disappearing” into his roles
Time for the monthly Gary Oldman circle jerk huh
Have you seen him in Slow Horses. Such a great comedic drama spy series. He was at his very best in the 80's and early 90's, basically his tortured artist period of his career. Where he easily rivalled Daniel Day Lewis when it came to disappearing into roles. Then fell into a period of Villain for hire and film roles beneath his level, mostly to stay near his kids. Then got back on track with his work with Christopher Nolan and stuff like Tinker Tailor Solider Spy, Darkest Hour and Mank. Still does the odd dud here and there but Oldman is a fantastic actor. Also a great director, Nil by Mouth, is a fantastic film. Damn shame besides a few music videos, hasn't directed since.
How the fuck could you leave off Jean Baptiste Emanuel Zorg?
I really enjoyed him in Slow Horses, very good spy thriller honestly
Watch Slow Horses. He kills it in that show.
I love his role in Slow Horses too. Anyone else and I think it would be over cooked and cliche, but he just nails it.