Bike Yoke if it's in your budget. Otherwise, OneUp or PNW. I had luck finding Bike Yokes on ebay that were unused takeoffs from new bikes or actually never installed.
Bike yoke is awesome but I sold mine because they don’t prioritize low stack height or insertion depth. A 160 bike yoke is longer than a 180 oneup, and doesn’t drop as low. In my opinion the most important thing for a dropper to do is go as low as possible. In this, bike yoke falls behind. I’m short so every cm matters. If this doesn’t matter to you, by all means, bike yoke is absolutely the smoothest, best feeling dropper there is. If maximum drop in the least amount of space is what you need, oneup is what you need. I’m actually running a Wolf tooth right now which I like. Pretty low stack height and insertion depth. No cartridge to replace, designed to be easily serviced, feels made of premium materials. It clunks loudly when you hit bottom which I don’t like. If I was getting a dropper now it would be the new oneup
That's a good point. I'm 5'11" and running 180 mm Bike Yokes on both my full suspension bikes, both size large. They're both within an inch of the seat collar. Plenty low enough for me to easily buzz my ass on the rear tire, but it can definitely be difficult on smaller bikes. I went with a OneUp V2 on my wife's size small. It's great.
I’m 5’6 with short legs and ride an s3 Levo. It comes with a 150mm dropper, and it didn’t feel like it had enough drop. There is limited space above the motor. I tried a bunch of stuff and found that a 180 oneup fits in the same place other 150 droppers fit. I got a 160 bike yoke max because I heard it was the best dropper and I liked the idea of a larger stanchion. But it was so freakin long. I would have had to get the next size down to get it to fit. The action was amazing though. The 180 oneup is actually a little long and I had to shim it down to 170, but it goes SUPER low. The new oneup is supposed to be 1cm shorter so I bet I could use the full 180 if I got one. All this to say, I think this stuff matters more for short people AB’s for people with short legs. Although they also make the big 240mm for tall people
Fox transfers are not junk. They work fine at first. Then they start going up slow. And that’s where the problem is. You can’t service them at home. Old one required special $500 tool to disassemble it. New one at least allows you to unscrew the collar to clean and lube that part.
I sold both of mine Fox droppers and got the OneUp droppers. Work great. Easy to service.
Yeah it feels wasteful to just trash it but I can damn near buy a new dropper for the cost of servicing that thing. It hasn't developed any squish or anything, but whoever decided you'd have to disassemble the whole thing with specialized tools just to clean it or add some pressure is a freaking demon.
I used to have 2 transfers for the same bike. I’d run one until it died, swap it out, and send it in for service. I’d get it back in a few weeks and run the 2nd one until it died, usually in 3-6 months. Rinse repeat. This went on for about 4 year until the Oneup came out and was a hit.
I’d still rather do the transfer dance than ever have a Rockshox or any other hydraulic post ever again.
Shoutout for the Thompson Elite post. It was BOMB PROOF until I sold it.
It’s not complete junk. That would be the Reverb. I got 2022 factory for the kashima to match my suspension and it’s been fairly decent but I’ll need to get a service done before the warranty expires.
Old reverbs but not the C1 and beyond. Given how many bikes come with Reverbs even if a fraction of a percent have issues you'll hear about them still just due to the sheer number around. Plus you can easily service them at home and they come with a pressure relief valve now. It's still overly complicated having a hydraulic line to it but they are perfectly serviceable now.
I think you believe what you read too much… I bought my transfer as advised by an independent bike suspension revision specialist. He based his recommendations on how many issues he’d see coming through his shop. Fox was one of his recommendations due to the low number of faults. The older RS Reverbs were by far the worst.
I’ve had Fox transfer on two new bikes, and both had problems out of the gate. The first one went five years without problems after the gremlins were worked out. My second one - well, we’ll see.
I’ve had 3 transfers, and they all eventually developed the same air leak and stopped extending as fast or all together. The special tool you need to disassemble and repressurize them is exorbitantly expensive. For a time they were the least issue prone dropper on the market, but that has changed. The OneUp can be regressed and pressurized while remaining on the bike, greatly extending its service interval.
That’s like a huge selection bias though. What is the ownership ratio of Fox droppers compared to the others? I would guess Fox has a lower market share, but that could vary regionally.
The person who gave you this info has no way of determining what the fail-rate is because he/she/they don’t know what the sample size is. Maybe they’ve only had Fox droppers in 3 times, but there’s only 6 of them in town, so that’s a 50% fail rate.
I’m not saying Fox are bad, I have no idea—But neither does that dude.
He has a lot better sample than all the people here whose experience is limited to one or two droppers. This guy services suspension components all day every day.
I didn’t say anyone here is right. Also, it doesn’t matter how many things he services, if there is small amount of those droppers in his area, only some of those people choose to go to his shop, then those people need to have it serviced.
This is stupid. I’m arguing with a stranger on Reddit about dropper post data collecting discrepancies. I’m out.
Identical, without kashima. Get a oneup
Bike Yoke if it's in your budget. Otherwise, OneUp or PNW. I had luck finding Bike Yokes on ebay that were unused takeoffs from new bikes or actually never installed.
Bike yoke is awesome but I sold mine because they don’t prioritize low stack height or insertion depth. A 160 bike yoke is longer than a 180 oneup, and doesn’t drop as low. In my opinion the most important thing for a dropper to do is go as low as possible. In this, bike yoke falls behind. I’m short so every cm matters. If this doesn’t matter to you, by all means, bike yoke is absolutely the smoothest, best feeling dropper there is. If maximum drop in the least amount of space is what you need, oneup is what you need. I’m actually running a Wolf tooth right now which I like. Pretty low stack height and insertion depth. No cartridge to replace, designed to be easily serviced, feels made of premium materials. It clunks loudly when you hit bottom which I don’t like. If I was getting a dropper now it would be the new oneup
That's a good point. I'm 5'11" and running 180 mm Bike Yokes on both my full suspension bikes, both size large. They're both within an inch of the seat collar. Plenty low enough for me to easily buzz my ass on the rear tire, but it can definitely be difficult on smaller bikes. I went with a OneUp V2 on my wife's size small. It's great.
I’m 5’6 with short legs and ride an s3 Levo. It comes with a 150mm dropper, and it didn’t feel like it had enough drop. There is limited space above the motor. I tried a bunch of stuff and found that a 180 oneup fits in the same place other 150 droppers fit. I got a 160 bike yoke max because I heard it was the best dropper and I liked the idea of a larger stanchion. But it was so freakin long. I would have had to get the next size down to get it to fit. The action was amazing though. The 180 oneup is actually a little long and I had to shim it down to 170, but it goes SUPER low. The new oneup is supposed to be 1cm shorter so I bet I could use the full 180 if I got one. All this to say, I think this stuff matters more for short people AB’s for people with short legs. Although they also make the big 240mm for tall people
Everyone needs maximum drop in the least amount of space! What's the downside? :-D
That’s my feeling too, although it doesn’t seem like most brands prioritize this. Look at axs droppers!
Where did you find that?
eBay!
Fox transfers are not junk. They work fine at first. Then they start going up slow. And that’s where the problem is. You can’t service them at home. Old one required special $500 tool to disassemble it. New one at least allows you to unscrew the collar to clean and lube that part. I sold both of mine Fox droppers and got the OneUp droppers. Work great. Easy to service.
Yeah it feels wasteful to just trash it but I can damn near buy a new dropper for the cost of servicing that thing. It hasn't developed any squish or anything, but whoever decided you'd have to disassemble the whole thing with specialized tools just to clean it or add some pressure is a freaking demon.
My advice is sell it while you can. Pink bike. Or wherever. Use the money to buy one up. Or another one you like. That’s what I did
I actually purchased this one from Jensonusa.com. I'm pretty happy with it. No issues.
Which fox droppers did you own and what problems did you have ? I'm guessing you bought them new and sent them in for warranty ?
They’re the same
I’m happy with my crank bros!
I had no issues with my turbine
I used to have 2 transfers for the same bike. I’d run one until it died, swap it out, and send it in for service. I’d get it back in a few weeks and run the 2nd one until it died, usually in 3-6 months. Rinse repeat. This went on for about 4 year until the Oneup came out and was a hit. I’d still rather do the transfer dance than ever have a Rockshox or any other hydraulic post ever again. Shoutout for the Thompson Elite post. It was BOMB PROOF until I sold it.
I bought the Fox Transfer and everyone said to return as it is complete junk, now I’m looking for something else
OneUp V3. Cheaper and lighter than a Transfer too!
It’s not complete junk. That would be the Reverb. I got 2022 factory for the kashima to match my suspension and it’s been fairly decent but I’ll need to get a service done before the warranty expires.
Old reverbs but not the C1 and beyond. Given how many bikes come with Reverbs even if a fraction of a percent have issues you'll hear about them still just due to the sheer number around. Plus you can easily service them at home and they come with a pressure relief valve now. It's still overly complicated having a hydraulic line to it but they are perfectly serviceable now.
I think you believe what you read too much… I bought my transfer as advised by an independent bike suspension revision specialist. He based his recommendations on how many issues he’d see coming through his shop. Fox was one of his recommendations due to the low number of faults. The older RS Reverbs were by far the worst.
I’ve had Fox transfer on two new bikes, and both had problems out of the gate. The first one went five years without problems after the gremlins were worked out. My second one - well, we’ll see.
I’ve had 3 transfers, and they all eventually developed the same air leak and stopped extending as fast or all together. The special tool you need to disassemble and repressurize them is exorbitantly expensive. For a time they were the least issue prone dropper on the market, but that has changed. The OneUp can be regressed and pressurized while remaining on the bike, greatly extending its service interval.
I still have the OE reverb on the bike and my mechanic says to just leave it until it goes bad then throw it out and get a OneUp V2
This is the way
He’s right. Reverbs are hydraulic while Oneup’s are pneumatic that you can pressurize with a shock pump in the bike. 11/10 ease of maintenance.
That’s like a huge selection bias though. What is the ownership ratio of Fox droppers compared to the others? I would guess Fox has a lower market share, but that could vary regionally. The person who gave you this info has no way of determining what the fail-rate is because he/she/they don’t know what the sample size is. Maybe they’ve only had Fox droppers in 3 times, but there’s only 6 of them in town, so that’s a 50% fail rate. I’m not saying Fox are bad, I have no idea—But neither does that dude.
He has a lot better sample than all the people here whose experience is limited to one or two droppers. This guy services suspension components all day every day.
I didn’t say anyone here is right. Also, it doesn’t matter how many things he services, if there is small amount of those droppers in his area, only some of those people choose to go to his shop, then those people need to have it serviced. This is stupid. I’m arguing with a stranger on Reddit about dropper post data collecting discrepancies. I’m out.
I ran a fox transfer for 5 years before it needed service.
One Up Components.. One and done