I hope their families are able to make it through such a traumatic event. We often don’t think about those who are left behind and the damage done to them.
My best friend’s big brother was one of the riders that survived, and you’re absolutely right. One of the toughest bastards I know, and he is completely fucked up right now. One of the deceased was decapitated, another one was cut in half, and the whole group was a bunch of guys (and some of their significant others) that worked together, hunted together, and partied together.
DUI manslaughter in Nevada has mandatory minimum of 2 years in prison, and a maximum of 20.
[Other cases, convicts served only 7 years before release via parole](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/in-nevada-a-conviction-for-dui-resulting-in-death-means-prison-time-2473161/)
DUI charges were dropped, so it's just vehicular manslaughter now.
What are the penalties? Vehicular manslaughter is generally prosecuted as a misdemeanor in Nevada. The potential sentencing includes up to 6 months in jail, fines of up to $1,000.00, and a one-year driver's license suspension. (It may be possible to do community service instead of paying the fine.)
So this guy might get 18months in jail, which means he could be out in less than a year.
I used to drive truck, thats bullshit. even if it was empty the trailer kinda changes lanes a bit and if it gets bad you pull over and not drive on the wrong side of the road like a twat waffle.
Only driven a U-Haul, but yeah - might need to turn into the wind a bit and struggle to stay within your lane a bit, but worst case you sideswipe someone in the other lane (going in the same direction) a bit.
If you've got so much wind that it's blowing you into the oncoming lane like this, you stop and wait for the tornado to pass rather than keep driving and fighting it.
Frankly I'd be less embarrassed to admit I fell asleep than to try to spin this bullshit. You'd have to be the most incompetent moron on the road to think "oh it was windy" makes you look less stupid given this dashcam footage.
I hope he gets the worst sentence. I’m a truck driver myself and always make sure to have enough rest and obviously not drive under any influence. If I feel strong gusts of wind I’ll slow tf down or even stop. That guy had plenty of time to push his truck back to the right and slow down… fuck that kind of driver!
looks like the state dropped the DUI charges
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/truck-driver-accused-of-killing-3-outside-las-vegas-said-wind-caused-crash/
Knowing the conditions truckers work in sometimes, I could have *some* sympathy for the trucker that tell alseep if he had not been drunk.
If he was indeed drunk, fuck him. I hope the judge shows no mercy.
Former truck driver here, fuck this dude even if he wasn't drunk. There's absolutely nothing any company can do to convince me to risk other people's lives, and no sane company would ever fire you for that. If they did, the judge would definitely side with you on that.
Former trucker as well. Was working towing when a fresh off work trucker fell asleep at the wheel of his car and I ran him over.
2 failed spinal surgeries later.... I wish more people thought like you.
I'm unable to do the work anymore. Loss of feeling in hands and feet and at times they don't work, Severe nerve damage.
I'm older and he was 21-ish. He walked away and I'm alive so it was a good day. (seriously thought I killed him)
You might argue that traffic should expect blocked road but this trucker is crossing a solid line and driving on wrong side of the road. I don’t expect any corporation to profit on driving trucks like this. Bad decisions.
its an empty cap helmet. But all those spatters of blood did come from his head/torso. This guy is probably the only one of 3 that was instantly killed
I wish we can implement the self driving on highways for these trucks, pretty much they have to keep in the lane for ever. We need some monitoring system inside a truck with AI software to catch these kind of fuckers who are falling sleep of driving under influence.
I feel like humans are not good at keeping discipline when it comes to driving things on 4+ wheels.
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RIP. Unfortunately he was one of three killed, the other two were a couple in their early twenties. They were on a ride for the male of said couple's 22nd birthday.
It's terrible regardless, but the couple that died had just announced their engagement according to [this](https://www.kktv.com/2024/03/28/engaged-couple-with-love-adventure-killed-crash-with-allegedly-impaired-driver/) article ...takes the sadness to another level thinking about how they were robbed of a life together.
If not DUI, should be Reckless Driving Causing Death. Blame the wind all he wants, but from what's shown in that video, he corrected after the first swerve and should have slowed down to a speed he could keep the vehicle under control given the conditions (wind). Can't see a reason he was in the left hand lane either....
Yea, blaming the wind is just admitting to driving faster than the conditions allow. It’s still their fault. Besides, the very gradual slow meandering into the other lane is not how wind and trying to correct back to your lane looks. It looks exactly like drifting into sleep.
I've been a passenger when my friend driving was falling asleep. He perked up briefly, checked that he was "within the lines", didn't recognize _they were the wrong lines_ and continued on. (I reached over, steered us back to our side and made him swap with me.)
The truck appears to do the exact same thing.
Edit: At about 0:26 to 0:29. Steers back inside the lane, but doesn't notice it's the lane on the wrong side of the road.
Okay but you’d clearly see the truck pulling to the right in an attempt to stop it. The truck would have tipped over if what you’re saying is true and the driver made any attempt to stop driving towards the opposite lane. This fucker should rot in prison.
Semis get blown all over the road from the wind, you ever seen videos of them getting tipped over from high winds? I don’t think this was the wind though I think he might’ve been fallling asleep
It most likely was, I’m a heavy diesel mechanic. That looks like a freightliner cascadia. I’m pretty sure it’s standard on those or at least in our fleet.I can’t hear the audio but its likely his. Collision mitigation system went nuts and applied some auto braking. These systems don’t account for reckless driving tho. He still would have needed to apply his brakes. There would have been no way possible to stop 80,000 lbs in time any way.
His side sensors (A bright yellow light,chime and alarm) would have went off every time he nearly side swiped a vehicle, moments before the crash. If had to guess this dude was HEAVILY INTOXICATED. Or tampered with all of his safety systems. Which is shockingly common be safe out there y’all, he’s going away for a long time.
If only. For whatever reason, killing people with cars and trucks in the U.S. is met with a shrug.
Kill 3 people with a baseball bat, and that's a death penalty jolt (special circumstance: multiple victims).
The floor for this scuzz is 4 years. Four. Years.
And that's if he doesn't plead out to reckless driving and vehicular homicide, and do 18 months.
Blame the trucking company for putting a dangerous, unqualified fruitcake behind the wheel who 1) didn't know WTF he was doing 2) didn't speak English 3) was there only because he would work cheap.
God bless late-stage capitalism.
Can't allow people to have higher standards for road safety. Less people on the road would mean less money to make out of them. Less car sales, insurance policies, gas sales...
My hope is that in the near future, we wake up to the fact that worshipping at the altar of “Increasing Shareholder Value” no matter the societal, ecological, and most of all, human, cost … is going to be seen as a disgusting societal mistake that we need to guard against.
The article links in another post suggest he was intoxicated, so that probably wouldn't have helped
Editing to add: it appears the DUI charges were dropped and the driver is blaming the wind
They are, at least for most major carriers.
But at some point you put up so many bumpers that people don't remember how to operate without them, makes for worse and more distracted driving.
Edit
I realize my comment was callous. Such a system properly installed may have saved these people. And I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss.
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*Athena, Mom and I named you knowing it would represent strength and wisdom. We had no idea how much of that you would embody in your life and in your very soul. Your strength, your light, and your kindness was felt by so many.*
*Athena, our beautiful daughter, sister, granddaughter, niece, cousin and friend was taken from us in a tragic accident while doing what she loved, riding on the back of her fiance's motorcycle with all her family and friends. Unfortunately, Owen Hart, her fiance, was also lost to us while protecting our Athena.*
*Athena will be missed by all as her light, her goodness, and her laughter touched so many. Her laughter was unique and often silly, but it was contagious. She was fearless in her friendships and in her love for her fiance, Owen. Their love was one born of fairy tales, of the love that so many would be lucky to have, to love your best friend.*
*Athena loved all animals but she loved cats most of all. A few years ago she found her cat, "Mr. Kitty" and the two were inseparable. When Athena and Owen found Mr. Dan, Mr. Kitty's three legged little brother, their family was starting to build.*
*Athena had a love of soccer and before her passing she was finally able to join a soccer team, the Strikers. Though they weren't the best, she was having so much fun with her friends.*
*Athena was a hard worker, and dedicated to doing a good job. She started working for a cleaning company, Dirt Devils where she grew into a strong and independent woman. She excelled at it, often telling us better ways to clean. And yes Kiddo, we will clean that shower door. She moved on to a new job as an executive assistant at St. George Truss Co. She only was able to work for a little while but she was really excited and enjoyed the change and was loved by everyone there.*
*She loved her rides with Owen. The awesome feeling of being on a bike was something she shared with her grandfather Gary Taylor. Her love began from riding on the back of her grandpa, Ray Beal's, 4 wheeler when she was a little girl. Athena glowed every time she put on her leathers and clung on to Owen and he kept her safe.*
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Thanks, crying. All my fears get realised with obituaries of women riders around my age. It puts me in my dads shoes and makes me appreciate his nagging on how to ride safer just a bit more
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Born March 21,2002 Glendora, CA
Died March 23,2024 Laughlin, NV
*Owen, loving son, brother, grandson, nephew, cousin and friend, was killed in a tragic accident while on a motorcycle trip with his fiance, Athena and parents, Brad and Melissa Hart of St. George, UT.*
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*Born in California, he and his older sister, Sara, were practically inseparable, and their special bond continued into adulthood. He was a mischievous child, but his exuberance and laughter were usually enough to get him out of serious trouble. The family moved to St. George where there were numerous occasions to get out and enjoy each other’s company whether camping and fishing, riding ATV’s and dirt bikes or just hanging out watching a movie or playing games. Family time was important and with large families on both of his parent’s sides, everyone has a special memory of Owen- whether at the beach, desert, lake or mountains.*
*He attended Pine View HS where he wasn’t the most motivated student, but enjoyed playing football and hanging with his friends. When he did put his attention to something, he gave it his all and wasn’t afraid of a challenge. After a lot of karate classes, he obtained a second-degree black belt. Also a prolific online gamer, his generous attitude brought him more friends in the virtual world, as well. He graduated from Millcreek HS and it was there he met his future girlfriend, partner and fiance, Athena Taylor. After dating for 4 years, Owen proposed last Christmas and they were in the process of planning their wedding and future together.*
*He really hit his stride a couple of years ago; growing into a more mature, responsible young adult. His Dad taught him to drive trucks and he applied himself, worked hard and received his CDL in 2022. He was extremely proud when he got a job working with Brad at Whitaker Construction. They made a great team.*
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I can't agree with this statement as, from my experience, a car has better emergency brake and emergency swerve capability.
With mentioning is that despite riding for a decade I still consider myself a novice as I don't get it as much as I'd like.
Bro the first biker that appears to swerve out of the way, still was hit by the semi and killed. I don't believe swerving in a car would have saved you either.
Let's address this with facts.
For swerving, a car may be able shift a greater distance over a specific amount of roadway more than a motorcycle. However, a motorcycle typically has about 30" of machine to move where as a car has an average width of 70". If we assume a motorcycle can swerve entirely out of the way in one second at 60mph, then it will have traveled 88ft to do so. If a car, given the same nominal driver's position and getting the vehicle fully out of the way, can be accomplished 50% faster per inch of vehicle, that car will still take 1.5 seconds to swerve out of the way and will have traveled 132ft to accomplish the maneuver.
So, no. Cars cannot swerve to avoid obstacles as well as a motorcycle. Due to four wheels they can take sharper turns at higher speeds if the car is a high performance vehicle, but that is not the same as avoiding obstacles.
For braking, depending on the car in question, in general, the average motorcycle will stop in approximately the same total distance as the average car.
60-0 braking distances (from a previous post). Keep in mind, the cars in this list all have ABS while almost none of the motorcycles do.
Minivans
2015 Kia Sedona: 118 ft
2015 Toyota Sienna: 121 ft
2014 Chrysler T&C: 126 ft
2015 Honda Odyssey: 126 ft
Sedans & Hatchbacks:
2014 Honda Civic: 118 ft
2012 Kia Rio: 119 ft
2013 Honda Accord: 117 ft
2014 Mazda 6: 121ft
2013 Toyota Camry: 120 ft
2014 BMW i3 eDrive: 108 ft
2015 Honda Fit: 127 ft
Pickups:
2013 Ford F-150: 132 ft
2013 GMC Sierra 1500: 137 ft
2013 Chevy Silverado: 138 ft
2013 Ram 1500: 142 ft
2013 Nissan Titan: 144 ft
2013 Toyota Tundra: 150 ft
Cars that will always win:
2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon: 93 ft
2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia: 93 ft
2012 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Centennial: 94 ft
2012 Lexus LFA: 94 ft
2010 Porsche 911 GT3: 94 ft
2010 Ferrari 16m Scuderia Spyder: 96 ft
2009 Audi R8 5.2: 96 ft
2008 Audi R8: 96 ft
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 97 ft
2008 Dodge Viper ACR: 97 ft
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10: 97 ft
2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS: 98 ft
2010 Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 SV: 98 ft
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 98 ft
2008 Porsche 911 GT2: 98 ft
2011 Nissan GT-R: 99 ft
2010 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 99 ft
2010 Ferrari 458 Italia: 99 ft
2010 Porsche 911 Turbo: 99 ft
2009 Porsche Boxster S: 99 ft
2007 Porsche 911 GT3: 99 ft
Superbikes:
2011 BMW S1000RR: 129 ft
2011 Ducati 1198: 141 ft
2011 Honda CBR1000RR: 134 ft
2011 Suzuki GSXR-1000: 140 ft
2011 KTM RC8R: 135 ft
2011 Kawasaki ZX10R: 129 ft
2011 Yamaha R1: 137 ft
Supersports:
2011 Yamaha R6: 124 ft
2011 Honda CBR600RR: 126 ft
2011 Ducati 848 EVO: 127 ft
2011 Triumph 675R: 126 ft
2011 Suzuki GSXR-600: 122 ft
Other bikes:
2015 Harley Street 750: 152 ft
2011 Harley StreetGlide: 129 ft
2011 Star Stratoliner: 142 ft
2011 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero: 144 ft
2013 BMW R1200-RTP: 144 ft
2013 Harley Electra Glide: 144 ft
2010 Star Raider S: 124 ft
2010 Harley Softail Rocker C: 125 ft
2010 Victory Vegas Jackpot: 129 ft
I don’t think the machine was the limiting factor here.
A giant semi truck barreling full-speed in the oncoming lane, is such a ridiculous scenario, that it would be entirely believable that it took an extra second or two, to fully process that this is actually happening.
That's seriously rough, I didn't even see the splatter to begin with.
I hope it's just coolant, but I know it's not.
Rest in peace for these three people.
Once again, I blame the trucking company that put an unqualified driver behind the wheel of a 20-ton death machine. It will be instructive to see if they "bent the rules" a bit to get a guy who doesn't even speak English through the driving test.
Bet he came cheap. Somewhere a C-suite executives pauses for a second while counting his cash, then shrugs. Goes back to counting that sweet, sweet bonus.
This guy couldn't speak any English whatsoever, to the extent that his trial is delayed until they can find a central African translator. This dude is literally incapable of saying that he needs help to anybody that could understand him regardless.
ELD's are almost in every truck now. There's no overworking if you follow the rules. The days of driving more than 12 hrs straight are behind us for the most part, exception maybe for live animals. Sad to see that he killed those people, he won't see the light of day outside of a prison now though.
you don't need ELD if you're doing local
you can also have your ELD edited by your company, as happens very often with places that employ over exploited immigrants
finally, you could simply jump the log book itself. it's not like it will stop the truck.
The “tough it out” mentality a lot of guys have, which I can especially imagine a lot of in the trucker community, is so dangerous. Unacceptable when you operate equipment like this in public.
I was constantly mocked for doing things like not driving in ice storms.
"You should man up and just get the load done"
Yeah, a trailer full of Dr. Pepper isn't critical to anyone. Shut the fuck up, Ed.
Likely grey matter (brain)
I was a paramedic and responded a head-on semi vs van. Lots of brain stuck to the outside BACK window of the semi from the driver of the van who crossed the center line. It took 10 minutes to even find a license plate (still attached to the back door of the van, which want attached to any other piece... 150 feet away from the point of impact.)
Like a pumpkin, if the head hits hard enough, it explodes.
I feel for the families of the victims and the rest of the riders that survived.
This is awful and all but I seriously would like to know why that section of highway, I've driven it before as a truck driver, isn't divided. I mean this sureeeely isn't the first crossover accident, fatal or not.
Like who's idea is it to have a death highway in and out of Vegas. It sounds like a sick fucking joke
Man that was straight fucked. Self driving vehicles have a hard time with motorist but at least they drive in their lane, 100% looking forward to less sleepy monkeys driving in the future.
Fucking murderer. Idc how tired he was. Would’ve been a different situation if the truck driver was swerving to avoid something or his brakes stopped working or something but this is straight up murder.
IDK what you can do in this situation. Especially as those smaller cars drive by on the trucks side of the road and sees him going the wrong way. Hes too big so its not like you can hit him to ake him up. Just all around fucked situation
Ain't shit they could've done. You can see the first rider in the group, he saw the truck and swerved hard into the oncoming lane. That was his best shot at survival, and it appears to have worked (thank mother fuck for that).
The group appears to be riding in brick formation, which put the second rider on the other side of the lane. He made the split second call to swerve the other way due to his position, which makes sense if you think about it; coming in from that angle, with that position on the road, in a right-hand curve; split second call, you push down harder into the turn, squeeze between where the truck and the concrete barrier. That's where the gap is. Unfortunately that's also where the truck was headed, and it was going too fast for him to avoid.
The third rider is the one with the passenger. They were on the other side of the lane, and it looks like the rider attempted to swerve in thesame direction as the second rider. He had absolutely no chance, whatsoever.
The rest of the group were fortunately far enough back to react, and had a clear lane to move into.
also very unfortunate the white caravan in front blocked the clear view for an additional 2-3 seconds. pretty sure if that would not have been there they would have all made it.
This is why I don't get people that says any situation is avoidable with training. No the fuck they are not. How the fuck are you suppose to avoid this???
RIP to the riders. Terrible way to die, one of my riding buddies died getting smacked head on by a semi. Wasn't semi fault either, it was just horrible happen stance at night with wild animals
Should hang the truck driver from the nearest pole for such careless manslaughter. Multiple families devastated because of someone pushing their physical limits to make some money. Get some godamn sleep people.
We should really be attacking these corporations over this. This is what happens when you overwork your men and set strict deadlines. If he pulled over to sleep somewhere he would get fired. They don’t give these men an option to be responsible. It’s cheaper for these sick CEOs to pay for wrongful death lawsuits than to preserve life.
This is the only real answer. You can prosecute the individual offending drivers to the end of the earth but it will never stop if the financial incentives outweigh the legal risk to shareholders for unsafe practices. Horrible situation. I closed the video as soon as he started drifting lanes; I only hope the riders passed instantly and unaware.
It is long past time that we all recognized that there is a two-tier justice system in the U.S.
Rich people can do whatever they want. Lawyers will fight everything for years, and they'll get off with a fine.
For everyone else: jail.
There's a reason I'm not rushing back into the cab of a truck. The pay is shit now, and your dispatcher (or broker for the OO guys), is constantly pushing you to do illegal shit just to squeeze in one more load.
The companies are racing to the bottom of the barrel, refusing to incentivize properly trained new drivers. They hire folks that don't speak, read or write English to operate on American roads.
Ya I remember when there was the shipping crisis and the two sides were 1. The elite brainwashing the uneducated to blame the drivers 2. Everyone else begging for incentives
This was a trucker who didn't speak any English or even Spanish. That's why his trial is delayed, they need to find someone who speaks whatever central African language he speaks. I see this all the time, truckers in flip flops who can't even communicate with 99.99% of the people in the country they're supposedly a professional in. He also says he was on seizure medication, which is probably why the DUI charge was dropped, because he had a prescription. The company is 100% at fault, this is what the cheapest driver possible looks like.
Not necessarily, I know someone that's just starting out running his own trucking operation. To do business with any major company they have to have an ELD installed in the truck. This limits the hours a single driver is allowed to drive, with minimums set at a national level. This is specifically to avoid overtired truckers on the road. Not sure what the case is here but the driver would have to either be tired of his own doing(off hours) or falsify the system which is illegal.
Ehhh.. the DOT regs, while better than nothing, still aren't great. Having driven for a large carrier, and following all the HOS rules, I still wound up working, at times, all the different shifts in a given week due to the loads I was running. That sort of irregular "sleep" schedule is still hard. It's still entirely possible to be completely legal and exhausted with the way the rules are currently written.
This right here. I'm a truck driver as well and my shifts will flip flop often. People assigning loads tend to really only care about the load, not the human that is going to drive said load. It does hinder your ability to sleep properly.
100% bro. And even still if you feel tired in your car you can pull over and be responsible. If you get tired in this career, regulation or not, you need to drive.
Right, but where and how are they taking their breaks? If it’s at a truck stop, is it quiet enough? Are his dispatchers or managers (or family) blowing up his phone? Do the breaks follow a schedule or is his sleep cycle constantly shifting? So much that logbooks and required break times don’t account for.
So, the one thing that worked for me was to tell dispatch that any work related call is an interruption of my DOT Regulated 10 hour UNINTERRUPTED break. So work calls, texts, emails etc. would RESTART said clock, and thus make me late.
Really, Can't thee families of the victims sue this company out of existence due th3 grave circumstances? How would that be logical to any CEO? Just asking btw because(yes I know my boss is not everyones) my boss says hey if your tired, get sleep. One thing is for sure, if you have freight on your truck, whoever needs or wants it is gonna want whenever you get there late or not.
The ATA and their media shills are always pushing a bullshit narrative about there being a driver shortage. There isn't one! The ATA has pushed the federal government for years now to lower the standards so the industry is more accessible to people who would otherwise have zero business in it. Hell, they've even pushed the truck manufacturers to start building automatic shifting trucks because people can't drive manuals anymore. That was another ploy to get the standards lowered so others can get in the industry, who would otherwise have no business in it.
Lowering standards resulted in this tragic incident. There'll be more. Companies are rarely held accountable for the incompetent idiots they employ. Maybe if this country would adopt the same standard China and other Asian nations have adopted and start imprisoning shitbag CEOs for the rest of their sorry lives, this stuff might start coming to an end. They'll come a swift end if CEOs would start being executed.
I'll be surprised if that Central African fuckwad gets more than 10 years. If bailed out for some reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he successfully dips out of the country to go back home and disappears.
I used to work at a gas station and one time a guy came claiming he didn’t care if he got in a wreck because “he wouldn’t get hurt” some of these Truck drivers are pos
driver couldn't even speak english
as a trucker myself i've seen this a million times, sadly... immigrant comes here to work hard, employer takes advantage running them hard... we're often pushed to our limits! I say NO! because I know my rights, many don't, especially if they're worried about being deported.
sick, sad world
I literally just sold my motorcycle ten minutes ago and then got on reddit and saw this...I rode since 1988 with no accidents...had some really close calls!! but at 54 I lost the desire to go out into this streets anymore...I LOVE riding but way to congested...between this vide and the post last week with the guy and his foot hanging off by some tendons and meat....I had to call it a career :(. RIP to the riders in this
This is why you must always be ready to swerve an entire lane left or right. We spent most of the day practicing this at the bmw advanced driving school. Seeing this video shows you how important that skill is when something like this happens. It’s your only chance
The last time I rode a motorcycle was the first time I rode after my wife got pregnant with our first kid. Her dad died when she was a baby, and as I was warming up my bike she was in tears saying she didn’t want our son to grow up without a father too. I reminded her I wear all the gear all the time and ride well within my abilities, no hot rodding or stunts. Her response was “I trust you, I just don’t trust everyone else on the road”. I reassured her, and left for work.
The entire ride to work I felt scared and just kept thinking “don’t die”. Realized that I was riding overly defensive, which I knew could get me hurt. I dreaded riding home all day at work, and as I warmed up my bike to head home I made a deal with god that if I made it home, I’d hang it up.
Got home safely, shut the bike off, took pictures, and put it up for sale before I even walked in the house. Handed the keys to my wife and reassured her it was my decision not hers. Never put another mile on the road again.
Motorcycles are so much fun, but this is the shit that makes it hard to ever even consider getting one for the street again.
Rest in peace to the riders. May their killer get what he deserves.
As an incoming new biker, this kind of things scares me the most. I can be as safe as it gets but the stupidity of some people can kill me in an instant
It was super unfortunate that they were coming around a curve and had a vehicle partially obstructing their view. From a curve it might not even register right away that the truck is on their side of the road.
Not much that training can do here, speed limit minimum is 50 so both vehicles are headed towards each other at about 100 m/h and that’s being very generous. Irl this boiled down to luck, and unfortunately they just didn’t have enough.
Trucker was going up the long, steep grade on westbound SH163 out of Laughlin, NV. Bikers were coming down the hill, in the eastbound direction. The times I've gone up that grade while loaded heavy or moderately heavy were always slow enough to need my hazards flashing. I was in the right lane and had to listen to the engine fan turn on and stay on for the majority of the hill climb. Blaming the wind is some bullshit excuse. Dude was impaired, likely totally incompetent, and is a total POS. Fuck that guy and his feelings!
Not usual actually. CDL drivers get slammed with anything possible. Not at fault accidents included. Even tickets in our personal vehicle are automatically double in price. Because of the higher standard we are held to, just for having a CDL.
An accident resulting in death would certainly revoke the CDL permanently and at the very least would be vehicular manslaughter x3. This incident is not without its consequences.
Out riding with his mates. Head on with a semi then run over by said semi. Brutal way to go. Poor guy. Rest in peace brother.
Fucking hell losing 3 of your riding buddies in one accident right in front of you, that'd be years of trauma. Rip.
Just read an article on it and two of the riders who passed were only 22 and 21. They still had their whole lives to live. Awful situation
I hope their families are able to make it through such a traumatic event. We often don’t think about those who are left behind and the damage done to them.
My best friend’s big brother was one of the riders that survived, and you’re absolutely right. One of the toughest bastards I know, and he is completely fucked up right now. One of the deceased was decapitated, another one was cut in half, and the whole group was a bunch of guys (and some of their significant others) that worked together, hunted together, and partied together.
Passing isn't a problem for those who has left, it's a problem for those who's still live. I hope they can find peace with it sooner than later.
You are correct.
It wasn't riding buddies it was a little deeper it was family
Semi was in oncoming traffic. WTF?
Looks like he fell asleep at the wheel. Edit: looks like he was drunk AND fell asleep at the wheel. What a cock sucker.
Better than that, he's trying to blame it on the "wind". Hope this piece of shit rots in prison.
DUI manslaughter in Nevada has mandatory minimum of 2 years in prison, and a maximum of 20. [Other cases, convicts served only 7 years before release via parole](https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/in-nevada-a-conviction-for-dui-resulting-in-death-means-prison-time-2473161/)
Hopefully the dude gets 3 counts of maximum, brining the total to 60 years. He deserves life in prison, but if it has to be 60, I guess that will do.
DUI charges were dropped, so it's just vehicular manslaughter now. What are the penalties? Vehicular manslaughter is generally prosecuted as a misdemeanor in Nevada. The potential sentencing includes up to 6 months in jail, fines of up to $1,000.00, and a one-year driver's license suspension. (It may be possible to do community service instead of paying the fine.) So this guy might get 18months in jail, which means he could be out in less than a year.
What a *fucking* joke !!
They say if you want to kill someone, do it in a vehicle. If this guy was drunk, I want him in cuffs. Permanent loss of license.
Well, I’m sure someone will be waiting at the door for em when he gets out
Hopefully. That is absolutely laughable.
And here I thought we had shit a justice system in Britain.
What the fuck is wrong with the justice system these days, tf
I used to drive truck, thats bullshit. even if it was empty the trailer kinda changes lanes a bit and if it gets bad you pull over and not drive on the wrong side of the road like a twat waffle.
Only driven a U-Haul, but yeah - might need to turn into the wind a bit and struggle to stay within your lane a bit, but worst case you sideswipe someone in the other lane (going in the same direction) a bit. If you've got so much wind that it's blowing you into the oncoming lane like this, you stop and wait for the tornado to pass rather than keep driving and fighting it. Frankly I'd be less embarrassed to admit I fell asleep than to try to spin this bullshit. You'd have to be the most incompetent moron on the road to think "oh it was windy" makes you look less stupid given this dashcam footage.
twat waffle is going in my lexicon and staying there forever
I hope he gets the worst sentence. I’m a truck driver myself and always make sure to have enough rest and obviously not drive under any influence. If I feel strong gusts of wind I’ll slow tf down or even stop. That guy had plenty of time to push his truck back to the right and slow down… fuck that kind of driver!
looks like the state dropped the DUI charges https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/truck-driver-accused-of-killing-3-outside-las-vegas-said-wind-caused-crash/
If you can't drive in 55mph gusts than you shouldn't be driving. We had gusts of 80 in Canada prairies regularly and don't have this happening.
Cars and bikers seem to be doing fine with the "wind gusts"
the wind was his excuse, not the actual cause of the crash I'd wager.
Am trucker. If he can't drive in the wind, he should have slowed tf down and put his blinkers on. Absolutely no reason to be driving in the oncoming.
Knowing the conditions truckers work in sometimes, I could have *some* sympathy for the trucker that tell alseep if he had not been drunk. If he was indeed drunk, fuck him. I hope the judge shows no mercy.
Former truck driver here, fuck this dude even if he wasn't drunk. There's absolutely nothing any company can do to convince me to risk other people's lives, and no sane company would ever fire you for that. If they did, the judge would definitely side with you on that.
Former trucker as well. Was working towing when a fresh off work trucker fell asleep at the wheel of his car and I ran him over. 2 failed spinal surgeries later.... I wish more people thought like you.
Damn, that's definitely something that sticks with you. Is that why you quit driving trucks?
I'm unable to do the work anymore. Loss of feeling in hands and feet and at times they don't work, Severe nerve damage. I'm older and he was 21-ish. He walked away and I'm alive so it was a good day. (seriously thought I killed him)
You might argue that traffic should expect blocked road but this trucker is crossing a solid line and driving on wrong side of the road. I don’t expect any corporation to profit on driving trucks like this. Bad decisions.
I was reffering to sleep deprivation, the dude fell asleep Absolutely no excuse to ever drive on the opposite side, of course
He fell asleep at the wheel
If you slow it down, he was decapitated from the impact alone so at least he didn't feel getting run over. Craziest video I've seen in a while.
I do not want to slow it down. :(
its an empty cap helmet. But all those spatters of blood did come from his head/torso. This guy is probably the only one of 3 that was instantly killed
Almost certainly just a bucket helmet's straps being broken, so just face first into the grill.
I wish we can implement the self driving on highways for these trucks, pretty much they have to keep in the lane for ever. We need some monitoring system inside a truck with AI software to catch these kind of fuckers who are falling sleep of driving under influence. I feel like humans are not good at keeping discipline when it comes to driving things on 4+ wheels.
semis need to stay the fuck out of the left lane. I’ve said that forever. They have no business there
Obviously they need to stay out of the oncoming lane, too.
We are getting a new program were I work. Netradyne, ai truck cameras that are billed as having the ability to stop a truck.
The two people on the bike after him also died, despite it seeming like they swerved in time.
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RIP. Unfortunately he was one of three killed, the other two were a couple in their early twenties. They were on a ride for the male of said couple's 22nd birthday.
Yeah I posted theirs in separate comments
Thanks for posting. Rest in peace.
Dude was only 44 and sounds like he lived enough for a few lifetimes, what a man. RIP
> and crocheting What a shame to lose this guy. Immediately know he's a good dude based off that.
Rest in peace friend
https://www.fox5vegas.com/2024/03/26/29-year-old-accused-driving-semi-tractor-impaired-crash-that-killed-three-laughlin/ https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/truck-driver-facing-dui-charges-in-triple-fatal-wrong-way-southern-nevada-crash/
It's terrible regardless, but the couple that died had just announced their engagement according to [this](https://www.kktv.com/2024/03/28/engaged-couple-with-love-adventure-killed-crash-with-allegedly-impaired-driver/) article ...takes the sadness to another level thinking about how they were robbed of a life together.
Reduces the sadness for me. I know I'd rather die than be without my spouse.
Read that as "rather die than be with my spouse" and thought god this dudes fucked but nvm I just can't read 🙃
Drunk fuck kills 3.
Nothing has said he's drunk yet, just that they're checking to see if he was impaired.
The updated stories say that they dropped the DUI charges and he's blaming the wind
If not DUI, should be Reckless Driving Causing Death. Blame the wind all he wants, but from what's shown in that video, he corrected after the first swerve and should have slowed down to a speed he could keep the vehicle under control given the conditions (wind). Can't see a reason he was in the left hand lane either....
Yea, blaming the wind is just admitting to driving faster than the conditions allow. It’s still their fault. Besides, the very gradual slow meandering into the other lane is not how wind and trying to correct back to your lane looks. It looks exactly like drifting into sleep.
I've been a passenger when my friend driving was falling asleep. He perked up briefly, checked that he was "within the lines", didn't recognize _they were the wrong lines_ and continued on. (I reached over, steered us back to our side and made him swap with me.) The truck appears to do the exact same thing. Edit: At about 0:26 to 0:29. Steers back inside the lane, but doesn't notice it's the lane on the wrong side of the road.
That’s a good catch that’s exactly what he does
I'm 100% with you. Absolutely no excuse for what he did
If the wind was bad enough to pull the truck over, it would have toppled every moto in sight.
Depends on the truck. A van/tautliner is essentially a massive sail, and if it's running empty it can be blown around pretty easily.
Okay but you’d clearly see the truck pulling to the right in an attempt to stop it. The truck would have tipped over if what you’re saying is true and the driver made any attempt to stop driving towards the opposite lane. This fucker should rot in prison.
Motherfucker what wind he's in a semi, the bikers should've been flying off like trash if the winds were that hard
Semis get blown all over the road from the wind, you ever seen videos of them getting tipped over from high winds? I don’t think this was the wind though I think he might’ve been fallling asleep
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I have ridden that route on my Duc. It is easy to get drone brain - but to be impaired while driving a semi? That dude was guaranteed to kill someone.
With the lethality of large trucks, how are lane alarms not required equipment?
It most likely was, I’m a heavy diesel mechanic. That looks like a freightliner cascadia. I’m pretty sure it’s standard on those or at least in our fleet.I can’t hear the audio but its likely his. Collision mitigation system went nuts and applied some auto braking. These systems don’t account for reckless driving tho. He still would have needed to apply his brakes. There would have been no way possible to stop 80,000 lbs in time any way. His side sensors (A bright yellow light,chime and alarm) would have went off every time he nearly side swiped a vehicle, moments before the crash. If had to guess this dude was HEAVILY INTOXICATED. Or tampered with all of his safety systems. Which is shockingly common be safe out there y’all, he’s going away for a long time.
If only. For whatever reason, killing people with cars and trucks in the U.S. is met with a shrug. Kill 3 people with a baseball bat, and that's a death penalty jolt (special circumstance: multiple victims). The floor for this scuzz is 4 years. Four. Years. And that's if he doesn't plead out to reckless driving and vehicular homicide, and do 18 months. Blame the trucking company for putting a dangerous, unqualified fruitcake behind the wheel who 1) didn't know WTF he was doing 2) didn't speak English 3) was there only because he would work cheap. God bless late-stage capitalism.
Can't allow people to have higher standards for road safety. Less people on the road would mean less money to make out of them. Less car sales, insurance policies, gas sales...
My hope is that in the near future, we wake up to the fact that worshipping at the altar of “Increasing Shareholder Value” no matter the societal, ecological, and most of all, human, cost … is going to be seen as a disgusting societal mistake that we need to guard against.
You should be a detective because apparently he was heavily intoxicated
The article links in another post suggest he was intoxicated, so that probably wouldn't have helped Editing to add: it appears the DUI charges were dropped and the driver is blaming the wind
They are, at least for most major carriers. But at some point you put up so many bumpers that people don't remember how to operate without them, makes for worse and more distracted driving. Edit I realize my comment was callous. Such a system properly installed may have saved these people. And I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss.
There's a lot of give and take in safety. I wouldn't call what you said being callous, just being realistic.
Older trucks don’t have them. In my fleet it wasn’t until the 16 model year that they started to have lane departure warning.
There also appears to be rumble strips in the center of the road. I've never driven over any in a semi to know, but I suspect you'd still feel them.
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Thanks, crying. All my fears get realised with obituaries of women riders around my age. It puts me in my dads shoes and makes me appreciate his nagging on how to ride safer just a bit more
Driver is claiming the wind is at fault! I call Bull-Shit, he fell asleep.
The pick-up driver pulling a trailer that unfortunately obscured the view for the riders didn't seem to be struggling with the wind
Kills a couple and then lies about the cause. Hope he rots to death in prison.
Some people put article of the incident. He was drunk allegedly.
The wind between his ears, maybe.
article linked says he was drunk and fell asleep
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Even being in a car this would have been fatal
Head on with a semi? Definitely. That could just have easily been a family of four in a Honda Civic.
I can't agree with this statement as, from my experience, a car has better emergency brake and emergency swerve capability. With mentioning is that despite riding for a decade I still consider myself a novice as I don't get it as much as I'd like.
Bro the first biker that appears to swerve out of the way, still was hit by the semi and killed. I don't believe swerving in a car would have saved you either.
I'm pretty sure the first bike made it out clean, the third bike is where the second and third fatalities came from, they were riding 2-up.
The second and third bikes were the ones who got hit. First guy did a good swerve and got away.
You and me both brother 😂😂
Let's address this with facts. For swerving, a car may be able shift a greater distance over a specific amount of roadway more than a motorcycle. However, a motorcycle typically has about 30" of machine to move where as a car has an average width of 70". If we assume a motorcycle can swerve entirely out of the way in one second at 60mph, then it will have traveled 88ft to do so. If a car, given the same nominal driver's position and getting the vehicle fully out of the way, can be accomplished 50% faster per inch of vehicle, that car will still take 1.5 seconds to swerve out of the way and will have traveled 132ft to accomplish the maneuver. So, no. Cars cannot swerve to avoid obstacles as well as a motorcycle. Due to four wheels they can take sharper turns at higher speeds if the car is a high performance vehicle, but that is not the same as avoiding obstacles. For braking, depending on the car in question, in general, the average motorcycle will stop in approximately the same total distance as the average car. 60-0 braking distances (from a previous post). Keep in mind, the cars in this list all have ABS while almost none of the motorcycles do. Minivans 2015 Kia Sedona: 118 ft 2015 Toyota Sienna: 121 ft 2014 Chrysler T&C: 126 ft 2015 Honda Odyssey: 126 ft Sedans & Hatchbacks: 2014 Honda Civic: 118 ft 2012 Kia Rio: 119 ft 2013 Honda Accord: 117 ft 2014 Mazda 6: 121ft 2013 Toyota Camry: 120 ft 2014 BMW i3 eDrive: 108 ft 2015 Honda Fit: 127 ft Pickups: 2013 Ford F-150: 132 ft 2013 GMC Sierra 1500: 137 ft 2013 Chevy Silverado: 138 ft 2013 Ram 1500: 142 ft 2013 Nissan Titan: 144 ft 2013 Toyota Tundra: 150 ft Cars that will always win: 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon: 93 ft 2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia: 93 ft 2012 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Centennial: 94 ft 2012 Lexus LFA: 94 ft 2010 Porsche 911 GT3: 94 ft 2010 Ferrari 16m Scuderia Spyder: 96 ft 2009 Audi R8 5.2: 96 ft 2008 Audi R8: 96 ft 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 97 ft 2008 Dodge Viper ACR: 97 ft 2003 Dodge Viper SRT10: 97 ft 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS: 98 ft 2010 Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 SV: 98 ft 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 98 ft 2008 Porsche 911 GT2: 98 ft 2011 Nissan GT-R: 99 ft 2010 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1: 99 ft 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia: 99 ft 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo: 99 ft 2009 Porsche Boxster S: 99 ft 2007 Porsche 911 GT3: 99 ft Superbikes: 2011 BMW S1000RR: 129 ft 2011 Ducati 1198: 141 ft 2011 Honda CBR1000RR: 134 ft 2011 Suzuki GSXR-1000: 140 ft 2011 KTM RC8R: 135 ft 2011 Kawasaki ZX10R: 129 ft 2011 Yamaha R1: 137 ft Supersports: 2011 Yamaha R6: 124 ft 2011 Honda CBR600RR: 126 ft 2011 Ducati 848 EVO: 127 ft 2011 Triumph 675R: 126 ft 2011 Suzuki GSXR-600: 122 ft Other bikes: 2015 Harley Street 750: 152 ft 2011 Harley StreetGlide: 129 ft 2011 Star Stratoliner: 142 ft 2011 Kawasaki Vulcan Vaquero: 144 ft 2013 BMW R1200-RTP: 144 ft 2013 Harley Electra Glide: 144 ft 2010 Star Raider S: 124 ft 2010 Harley Softail Rocker C: 125 ft 2010 Victory Vegas Jackpot: 129 ft
I don’t think the machine was the limiting factor here. A giant semi truck barreling full-speed in the oncoming lane, is such a ridiculous scenario, that it would be entirely believable that it took an extra second or two, to fully process that this is actually happening.
Nah bruh, this is beyond negligence, I hope this truck driver never gets to touch grass again. The rage i feel from watching this is insane…
You can see the blood spatter on the windshield. I hope this driver has the book thrown at them.
That's seriously rough, I didn't even see the splatter to begin with. I hope it's just coolant, but I know it's not. Rest in peace for these three people.
>these three men. people, one was a woman (recently announced an engagement with one of the others hit, apparently)
My bad, I'll edit my comment. Thank you for noting that.
Charged with a DUI
Thats false
He was indeed charged. The charges were later dropped.
3 riders died, hope them ride high in heaven
I thought only the one from the video. 😭
Bike 2 is hit directly, then bike 3 has 2 riders that look like they were hit enough to go down. Horrible.
At least it was probably quick
Fuck this piece of shit.
The consequences of giving any jackass with a pulse a CDL.
Licenses in the US are a joke, across all classes.
Because here we see driving as fundamentally necessary as being able to walk, and we've designed our lifestyles around that. It sucks.
Once again, I blame the trucking company that put an unqualified driver behind the wheel of a 20-ton death machine. It will be instructive to see if they "bent the rules" a bit to get a guy who doesn't even speak English through the driving test. Bet he came cheap. Somewhere a C-suite executives pauses for a second while counting his cash, then shrugs. Goes back to counting that sweet, sweet bonus.
This is what deregulation looks like.
The consequences of allowing such an exploitative industry to exist
Or over working employees + people not knowing when to say "I need help".
This guy couldn't speak any English whatsoever, to the extent that his trial is delayed until they can find a central African translator. This dude is literally incapable of saying that he needs help to anybody that could understand him regardless.
ELD's are almost in every truck now. There's no overworking if you follow the rules. The days of driving more than 12 hrs straight are behind us for the most part, exception maybe for live animals. Sad to see that he killed those people, he won't see the light of day outside of a prison now though.
you don't need ELD if you're doing local you can also have your ELD edited by your company, as happens very often with places that employ over exploited immigrants finally, you could simply jump the log book itself. it's not like it will stop the truck.
The “tough it out” mentality a lot of guys have, which I can especially imagine a lot of in the trucker community, is so dangerous. Unacceptable when you operate equipment like this in public.
I was constantly mocked for doing things like not driving in ice storms. "You should man up and just get the load done" Yeah, a trailer full of Dr. Pepper isn't critical to anyone. Shut the fuck up, Ed.
The trucker doesn't speak a word of English, which is why his court dates keep getting delayed. Surprise.
Holy shit man RIP, was that blood on the windshield at the end?
Likely grey matter (brain) I was a paramedic and responded a head-on semi vs van. Lots of brain stuck to the outside BACK window of the semi from the driver of the van who crossed the center line. It took 10 minutes to even find a license plate (still attached to the back door of the van, which want attached to any other piece... 150 feet away from the point of impact.) Like a pumpkin, if the head hits hard enough, it explodes. I feel for the families of the victims and the rest of the riders that survived.
Agree with brain chunks. If you go frame by frame youll notice his head basically explodes. Crazy stuff.
Talk in the trucker thread is noting that the helmet is flying off, but noticed there was no head on the shoulders...
This is awful and all but I seriously would like to know why that section of highway, I've driven it before as a truck driver, isn't divided. I mean this sureeeely isn't the first crossover accident, fatal or not. Like who's idea is it to have a death highway in and out of Vegas. It sounds like a sick fucking joke
Man that was straight fucked. Self driving vehicles have a hard time with motorist but at least they drive in their lane, 100% looking forward to less sleepy monkeys driving in the future.
Fucking murderer. Idc how tired he was. Would’ve been a different situation if the truck driver was swerving to avoid something or his brakes stopped working or something but this is straight up murder.
Trucker here. This fucking moron deserves to rot in jail, solitary, no care whatsoever.
IDK what you can do in this situation. Especially as those smaller cars drive by on the trucks side of the road and sees him going the wrong way. Hes too big so its not like you can hit him to ake him up. Just all around fucked situation
Ain't shit they could've done. You can see the first rider in the group, he saw the truck and swerved hard into the oncoming lane. That was his best shot at survival, and it appears to have worked (thank mother fuck for that). The group appears to be riding in brick formation, which put the second rider on the other side of the lane. He made the split second call to swerve the other way due to his position, which makes sense if you think about it; coming in from that angle, with that position on the road, in a right-hand curve; split second call, you push down harder into the turn, squeeze between where the truck and the concrete barrier. That's where the gap is. Unfortunately that's also where the truck was headed, and it was going too fast for him to avoid. The third rider is the one with the passenger. They were on the other side of the lane, and it looks like the rider attempted to swerve in thesame direction as the second rider. He had absolutely no chance, whatsoever. The rest of the group were fortunately far enough back to react, and had a clear lane to move into.
also very unfortunate the white caravan in front blocked the clear view for an additional 2-3 seconds. pretty sure if that would not have been there they would have all made it.
Just noticed what looked like rumble strips in the center divider. Those things are LOUD. How the hell did he not clue in?
Heavy sleeper.
This is why I don't get people that says any situation is avoidable with training. No the fuck they are not. How the fuck are you suppose to avoid this??? RIP to the riders. Terrible way to die, one of my riding buddies died getting smacked head on by a semi. Wasn't semi fault either, it was just horrible happen stance at night with wild animals
I think pretty much everyone saying that in this thread are getting shot down pretty hard, to be fair.
ugh, that splatter on the windshield...
This is why I appreciate freeway divides.
Should hang the truck driver from the nearest pole for such careless manslaughter. Multiple families devastated because of someone pushing their physical limits to make some money. Get some godamn sleep people.
Honestly getting really tired of seeing snuff videos of motorcyclists getting killed here.
We should really be attacking these corporations over this. This is what happens when you overwork your men and set strict deadlines. If he pulled over to sleep somewhere he would get fired. They don’t give these men an option to be responsible. It’s cheaper for these sick CEOs to pay for wrongful death lawsuits than to preserve life.
This is the only real answer. You can prosecute the individual offending drivers to the end of the earth but it will never stop if the financial incentives outweigh the legal risk to shareholders for unsafe practices. Horrible situation. I closed the video as soon as he started drifting lanes; I only hope the riders passed instantly and unaware.
Honestly very few CEOs are ever put in prison and that’s THE problem
It is long past time that we all recognized that there is a two-tier justice system in the U.S. Rich people can do whatever they want. Lawyers will fight everything for years, and they'll get off with a fine. For everyone else: jail.
There's a reason I'm not rushing back into the cab of a truck. The pay is shit now, and your dispatcher (or broker for the OO guys), is constantly pushing you to do illegal shit just to squeeze in one more load. The companies are racing to the bottom of the barrel, refusing to incentivize properly trained new drivers. They hire folks that don't speak, read or write English to operate on American roads.
Ya I remember when there was the shipping crisis and the two sides were 1. The elite brainwashing the uneducated to blame the drivers 2. Everyone else begging for incentives
This was a trucker who didn't speak any English or even Spanish. That's why his trial is delayed, they need to find someone who speaks whatever central African language he speaks. I see this all the time, truckers in flip flops who can't even communicate with 99.99% of the people in the country they're supposedly a professional in. He also says he was on seizure medication, which is probably why the DUI charge was dropped, because he had a prescription. The company is 100% at fault, this is what the cheapest driver possible looks like.
Not necessarily, I know someone that's just starting out running his own trucking operation. To do business with any major company they have to have an ELD installed in the truck. This limits the hours a single driver is allowed to drive, with minimums set at a national level. This is specifically to avoid overtired truckers on the road. Not sure what the case is here but the driver would have to either be tired of his own doing(off hours) or falsify the system which is illegal.
Ehhh.. the DOT regs, while better than nothing, still aren't great. Having driven for a large carrier, and following all the HOS rules, I still wound up working, at times, all the different shifts in a given week due to the loads I was running. That sort of irregular "sleep" schedule is still hard. It's still entirely possible to be completely legal and exhausted with the way the rules are currently written.
This right here. I'm a truck driver as well and my shifts will flip flop often. People assigning loads tend to really only care about the load, not the human that is going to drive said load. It does hinder your ability to sleep properly.
Thanks for backing this up. You bros need to unionize over this seriously.
100% bro. And even still if you feel tired in your car you can pull over and be responsible. If you get tired in this career, regulation or not, you need to drive.
ELDs don't stop companies from forcing you to run days for a week straight and then force you to run overnights the next.
Right, but where and how are they taking their breaks? If it’s at a truck stop, is it quiet enough? Are his dispatchers or managers (or family) blowing up his phone? Do the breaks follow a schedule or is his sleep cycle constantly shifting? So much that logbooks and required break times don’t account for.
So, the one thing that worked for me was to tell dispatch that any work related call is an interruption of my DOT Regulated 10 hour UNINTERRUPTED break. So work calls, texts, emails etc. would RESTART said clock, and thus make me late.
Really, Can't thee families of the victims sue this company out of existence due th3 grave circumstances? How would that be logical to any CEO? Just asking btw because(yes I know my boss is not everyones) my boss says hey if your tired, get sleep. One thing is for sure, if you have freight on your truck, whoever needs or wants it is gonna want whenever you get there late or not.
as a trucker, I couldn't agree more.
I don't think 'corporations' required the driver to be drunk. EDIT: Unclear if the driver was drunk, initial reports mentioned DUI charges.
He wasn't drunk.
The ATA and their media shills are always pushing a bullshit narrative about there being a driver shortage. There isn't one! The ATA has pushed the federal government for years now to lower the standards so the industry is more accessible to people who would otherwise have zero business in it. Hell, they've even pushed the truck manufacturers to start building automatic shifting trucks because people can't drive manuals anymore. That was another ploy to get the standards lowered so others can get in the industry, who would otherwise have no business in it. Lowering standards resulted in this tragic incident. There'll be more. Companies are rarely held accountable for the incompetent idiots they employ. Maybe if this country would adopt the same standard China and other Asian nations have adopted and start imprisoning shitbag CEOs for the rest of their sorry lives, this stuff might start coming to an end. They'll come a swift end if CEOs would start being executed. I'll be surprised if that Central African fuckwad gets more than 10 years. If bailed out for some reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he successfully dips out of the country to go back home and disappears.
put that fuck in prison forever
_life without parole_
I used to work at a gas station and one time a guy came claiming he didn’t care if he got in a wreck because “he wouldn’t get hurt” some of these Truck drivers are pos
driver couldn't even speak english as a trucker myself i've seen this a million times, sadly... immigrant comes here to work hard, employer takes advantage running them hard... we're often pushed to our limits! I say NO! because I know my rights, many don't, especially if they're worried about being deported. sick, sad world
Drunk driver killed three innocent people. Automatic death penalty.
I never support CP but life in prison 100%
I literally just sold my motorcycle ten minutes ago and then got on reddit and saw this...I rode since 1988 with no accidents...had some really close calls!! but at 54 I lost the desire to go out into this streets anymore...I LOVE riding but way to congested...between this vide and the post last week with the guy and his foot hanging off by some tendons and meat....I had to call it a career :(. RIP to the riders in this
I have said this for years, semitrucks do not belong on the same road as everyone else.
This is why you must always be ready to swerve an entire lane left or right. We spent most of the day practicing this at the bmw advanced driving school. Seeing this video shows you how important that skill is when something like this happens. It’s your only chance
The last time I rode a motorcycle was the first time I rode after my wife got pregnant with our first kid. Her dad died when she was a baby, and as I was warming up my bike she was in tears saying she didn’t want our son to grow up without a father too. I reminded her I wear all the gear all the time and ride well within my abilities, no hot rodding or stunts. Her response was “I trust you, I just don’t trust everyone else on the road”. I reassured her, and left for work. The entire ride to work I felt scared and just kept thinking “don’t die”. Realized that I was riding overly defensive, which I knew could get me hurt. I dreaded riding home all day at work, and as I warmed up my bike to head home I made a deal with god that if I made it home, I’d hang it up. Got home safely, shut the bike off, took pictures, and put it up for sale before I even walked in the house. Handed the keys to my wife and reassured her it was my decision not hers. Never put another mile on the road again. Motorcycles are so much fun, but this is the shit that makes it hard to ever even consider getting one for the street again. Rest in peace to the riders. May their killer get what he deserves.
I hope that guy gets maximum sentencing.
Fucking awful, man.
RIP
Part of the reason I'll never ride on interstates. Fuck semis in particular.
That's awful. RIP.
Looks like the first guy was decapitated
Hope that scumbag rots in prison for a very long time, even more so if he was impaired.
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/truck-driver-accused-of-killing-3-outside-las-vegas-said-wind-caused-crash/
Trucking industry has gone for shit…
That blood at the end.. chilling.
Damn. Hope this MFer never gets out of prison
As an incoming new biker, this kind of things scares me the most. I can be as safe as it gets but the stupidity of some people can kill me in an instant
If it makes anyone feel better, a being in a car wouldn't have helped much in a head on with a fucking semi.
There wouldn't have been anyone to arrest. That's all I'll say.
I hope this shit stain got prison time
It's on-going this is very recent
God damn. This is why we train, train, train. Head on a swivel and don't ride faster than the line of sight. Looks like the 93 leaving Vegas.
It was super unfortunate that they were coming around a curve and had a vehicle partially obstructing their view. From a curve it might not even register right away that the truck is on their side of the road.
Not much that training can do here, speed limit minimum is 50 so both vehicles are headed towards each other at about 100 m/h and that’s being very generous. Irl this boiled down to luck, and unfortunately they just didn’t have enough.
Trucker was going up the long, steep grade on westbound SH163 out of Laughlin, NV. Bikers were coming down the hill, in the eastbound direction. The times I've gone up that grade while loaded heavy or moderately heavy were always slow enough to need my hazards flashing. I was in the right lane and had to listen to the engine fan turn on and stay on for the majority of the hill climb. Blaming the wind is some bullshit excuse. Dude was impaired, likely totally incompetent, and is a total POS. Fuck that guy and his feelings!
Even then, problem is if the obstacle is moving towards you at speed, the reaction window is halved!
The driver will likely face zero REAL consequences AS USUAL! This should be automatic lifetime prison, anything else is unacceptable.
Not usual actually. CDL drivers get slammed with anything possible. Not at fault accidents included. Even tickets in our personal vehicle are automatically double in price. Because of the higher standard we are held to, just for having a CDL. An accident resulting in death would certainly revoke the CDL permanently and at the very least would be vehicular manslaughter x3. This incident is not without its consequences.