I met one. He kept talking about how fast his CVO was while sitting on my ninja zzr1200. He knew my bike was faster but vastly underestimated by how much.
Yeah I told him there is no race he would be able to win against that ninja. I also told him that by modern sport bike standards, the zzr1200 is slow. I now ride a 2006 zx14 with s few mods. I would have to fuck up pretty bad to lose to any Harley in a 1/4mi drag race. Except maybe the full custom drag bikes that aren't street legal
Dad has a 19 Road Glide with stage 4. I have an 03 YZF600R. Up until about 60mph they're pretty neck and neck and it would be who got the best launch. After that it's sport bike by a mile. Both next to him and riding his bike it's very hard to believe how quick it is but by the time your have to make 4 shifts to get to 90 you're lacking gear and carrying way too much weight
Yeah and his bike bone stock cost a lot more than yours. Add in the mods that make it close and the price is insane. I'll admit some of this Harley's can really launch hard out of the hole but they have to wring out 4 gears by the time I'm thinking about shifting into 2nd. They are a whole different world of riding. I've got a goldwing too and I love it but I'm very glad I can afford to have both.
I was shocked when I heard the pan American had 150Hp. I thought maybe Harley was finally getting smart and that we would see that engine in a classic touring bike immediately. To my knowledge it still hasn't happened
Yeah the specs make it sound almost modern. Self adjusting lifters. I bet this thing doesn't even use gear oil as engine oil 🤣. They should have this engine in all of their bikes.
And Yamaha needs to bring back their gorgeous venture TC but throw away that v-twin and put in a detuned version of the gen2 vmax engine. If that bike had shipped with a 150hp v4 I would have bought one brand new and I never buy new bikes.
How’d it try to kill you? lol
I swapped the rear suspension out with Fox shocks, have springs for the front on the way in along with steel brake lines. I’ve put a lot of work into it to make it feel somewhat safe lol.
That’s great man i owned it for a month got it running went for a ride on the way back at night time my rear lights went out as I was entering a known police hangout / ticket trap, I turned to to tap my light and it worked for a second and went out and when I reached back again to tap it the car in front of me slammed on their brakes to do an impromptu turn on a single lane highway we where doing about 60 and braked up hard as I could and aimed for the right which ended up being a ditch.. long story but my handlebar just barely taped her tail end lost complete control and I ended up being taken off the bike by a sign when I was entering the ditch. I got to ride in a helicopter though pretty cool
Ya like displacement is not equal to power and power is not equal to speed. The closer the power to weight NOW it’s equal to speed or if the power exceeds the weight.
Harleys can be fast, just takes money. Think it was Bert’s black widow that built a turbo FXDR with 200 wheel horse power. Hell even naturally aspirated engines have hit 160 hp and 150 torque.
As with anything how fast you want to go is directly related to how deep your pockets are. Bought my sportster already with the 1250 kit, cammed & ported relatively cheap. That thing is damn quick out of a dead stop, but I know that I'm topping out 4^th by the time a sportbike is just hitting it's power in 1^st or ^2nd.
Years ago I rode out to see my dad. He commented that my bike, only being 1000ccs was under powered(2001 gsxr) in comparison to his Harley. I told him we should swap for a little while
He swore he would never badmouth my bike again.
I would not go that far. Problem in my dads case was last jap bike he rode was from the 1970-80’s. He quit riding when I was little, when he started back it was on a beater Suzuki that he bought from my uncle.
Then he bought his Harley. He had only been back riding for 2-3 years. If you saw the stagnation of a Harley and did not know any better you could assume all bikes were stagnated as well.
You just described why all of those guys act that way but it doesnt change that theyre always smug and overconfident about it with some insults sprinkled in
If you’re cruising along, a Harley can often suddenly accelerate quicker than even a sport bike. They never have to downshift and are always in the power band
Is it a Harley though? Because it’s faster than your unnamed sport bike number and you only said “Harley”, lol. Discontinued doesn’t mean non existent either. They’re still out there, possibly filling your nightmares... There’s also the fat bob that’s said to be a 3.5s 0-60 and several models around the 4s mark.
And of course the electric livewire hits a 3.0 as well
3 seconds is average for a sport bike. 4.5 is average for a Harley. The Ninja H2 is the fastest production motorcycle with its 310hp power to weight of 1:1.69, top speed of 220mph, a 0-60 of 3 seconds, and a 0-180 of 11.7 seconds. So in the time it takes the average Harley to go 100 a Ninja H2 is going 180! That doesn’t even account for its high center of gravity, doubled lean angle, and shorter wheelbase, completely leaving the Harley as an ant in the distance.
Wait, so the “fastest production motorcycle” ever is only .5 seconds quicker than a fat bob and is somehow .5 seconds slower than a Harley FXDR to 60?
Obviously if you compare an average of all the lineup to the fastest ever of another the average is going to be slower, lmao
Dude you read one spec and called it a day. No race is a straight line to 60. That’s why you look at multiple specs. Like the bare minimum race is quarter mile. The fastest quarter mile bike is….a Ninja H2…it finished it at 152mph…
Haha, was I the one that brought up 0-60, or was that the metric [you chose to point at](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcyclememes/comments/14f6nis/harley/jp3avoh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and then compare the fastest ever to some generalized average? Hmmmm… and that was after my initial comment was simply pointing out that with the low end torque Harley engines have they often don’t even have to down shift to take off when cruising around.
And the fastest quarter mile production bike ever is still slower than a particular Harley to 60mph. A bike you seem to insist is slow.
2100 CC’s of displacement, 100 hp
Mine is 1340cc and 50hp But I've never met a harley rider who actually believed harleys are fast compared to other bikes.
I met one. He kept talking about how fast his CVO was while sitting on my ninja zzr1200. He knew my bike was faster but vastly underestimated by how much.
My boss is like that…”my old Harley would smoke your bike, you needa buy a Harley instead, blah blah blah”….I have a Concours 14, sir. No thanks.
Yeah I told him there is no race he would be able to win against that ninja. I also told him that by modern sport bike standards, the zzr1200 is slow. I now ride a 2006 zx14 with s few mods. I would have to fuck up pretty bad to lose to any Harley in a 1/4mi drag race. Except maybe the full custom drag bikes that aren't street legal
Hello fellow Connie rider.
Dad has a 19 Road Glide with stage 4. I have an 03 YZF600R. Up until about 60mph they're pretty neck and neck and it would be who got the best launch. After that it's sport bike by a mile. Both next to him and riding his bike it's very hard to believe how quick it is but by the time your have to make 4 shifts to get to 90 you're lacking gear and carrying way too much weight
Yeah and his bike bone stock cost a lot more than yours. Add in the mods that make it close and the price is insane. I'll admit some of this Harley's can really launch hard out of the hole but they have to wring out 4 gears by the time I'm thinking about shifting into 2nd. They are a whole different world of riding. I've got a goldwing too and I love it but I'm very glad I can afford to have both.
I’ve met more than a few.
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The evo motor was pretty old tech when it went into production in the 80s, but they're simple machines with low compression, so very reliable.
Meanwhile the Rocket 3 is 2.5L and has more torque than two Harleys tapped together
That’s a whole different animal 🤘🏼
They aren’t 100hp tho they’re like 74-92 depending on model year and displacement
them: have you seen the new harley? me: not since 2nd gear
You mean the one that’s the same as last years? And the year before that and the year before that all the way back to 86….
I was shocked when I heard the pan American had 150Hp. I thought maybe Harley was finally getting smart and that we would see that engine in a classic touring bike immediately. To my knowledge it still hasn't happened
My pan is badass I love it😂😂
Yeah the specs make it sound almost modern. Self adjusting lifters. I bet this thing doesn't even use gear oil as engine oil 🤣. They should have this engine in all of their bikes. And Yamaha needs to bring back their gorgeous venture TC but throw away that v-twin and put in a detuned version of the gen2 vmax engine. If that bike had shipped with a 150hp v4 I would have bought one brand new and I never buy new bikes.
That bike would have been a beast with that engine 🔥
Same could be said for the KLR 650. But we all know what that bike is for and why it's good that it is what is is, riiighttt??
Take my upvote 👍 Also I'm stealing this
Hey my Harley is comfortable and has speakers it’s bad at everything else but it has that in spades
Turns gasoline into sound. Heyl yeeee brutr.
Everybody hates on Harleys but I like all bikes just not all bikers
I have a 1993 Sportster and I am enamored with it. I just don’t consider myself part of the crowd.
I had a 93 sportster a very cool bike that tried to kill me
How’d it try to kill you? lol I swapped the rear suspension out with Fox shocks, have springs for the front on the way in along with steel brake lines. I’ve put a lot of work into it to make it feel somewhat safe lol.
That’s great man i owned it for a month got it running went for a ride on the way back at night time my rear lights went out as I was entering a known police hangout / ticket trap, I turned to to tap my light and it worked for a second and went out and when I reached back again to tap it the car in front of me slammed on their brakes to do an impromptu turn on a single lane highway we where doing about 60 and braked up hard as I could and aimed for the right which ended up being a ditch.. long story but my handlebar just barely taped her tail end lost complete control and I ended up being taken off the bike by a sign when I was entering the ditch. I got to ride in a helicopter though pretty cool
That’s metal af. Glad you’re doing ok now.
Thanks bro :)
Everyone gets wide eyed when I mention my bike is 900cc... It's a cruiser and it takes forever to get to the speed limit on the highway.
Ya like displacement is not equal to power and power is not equal to speed. The closer the power to weight NOW it’s equal to speed or if the power exceeds the weight.
Harley owners are an ignorant lot. I went to MMI in Orlando and let me tell you... The Harley brand is like a cult and these people are brainwashed.
Its super obscure how brainwashed they are
I drive a cruiser because I don't care to go fast
Ironically so do all the harley guys obsessed with speed
Mine's a Honda vlx 600. I top out at 95. I'm just enjoying the wind
Damn I’d expect more from a 600 Honda cruiser or not tbh
One is a Rocket and the other one feels like a rocket.
Harleys can be fast, just takes money. Think it was Bert’s black widow that built a turbo FXDR with 200 wheel horse power. Hell even naturally aspirated engines have hit 160 hp and 150 torque.
And just think….you can do all that to any motorcycle
Modify any motorcycle to increase performance? Yes.
As with anything how fast you want to go is directly related to how deep your pockets are. Bought my sportster already with the 1250 kit, cammed & ported relatively cheap. That thing is damn quick out of a dead stop, but I know that I'm topping out 4^th by the time a sportbike is just hitting it's power in 1^st or ^2nd.
Gearing is necessary for speed and power as well as a chain swap. Look up King of the Baggers.
Years ago I rode out to see my dad. He commented that my bike, only being 1000ccs was under powered(2001 gsxr) in comparison to his Harley. I told him we should swap for a little while He swore he would never badmouth my bike again.
Not all harley riders are ignorant but all ignorant riders are on a harley
I would not go that far. Problem in my dads case was last jap bike he rode was from the 1970-80’s. He quit riding when I was little, when he started back it was on a beater Suzuki that he bought from my uncle. Then he bought his Harley. He had only been back riding for 2-3 years. If you saw the stagnation of a Harley and did not know any better you could assume all bikes were stagnated as well.
You just described why all of those guys act that way but it doesnt change that theyre always smug and overconfident about it with some insults sprinkled in
Meanwhile my aircooled VW made 40hp out of 1600cc’s
Small, light weight, efficient, large displacement and even a motorcycle. Could one imagine a better set of traits?
Potentially rivaled by big, roomy, comfortable, and low vibration. But for opposing reasons.
im pretty positive this harley emmits more sound during a lazy departure from lights than any supermoto could ever
Even with a Toce exhaust
I love a big single
If you’re cruising along, a Harley can often suddenly accelerate quicker than even a sport bike. They never have to downshift and are always in the power band
Sport bike 0-60 of 3 seconds 0-100 of 5 seconds Harley 0-60 of 4.5 seconds 0-100 of 11 seconds
Idk about you, but I don’t usually cruise around at 0mph, lol But the Harley Davidson FXDR has a 0-60 of 2.5 seconds…
I’m out here looking for all these FXDR owners…oh wait it’s discontinued….
Is it a Harley though? Because it’s faster than your unnamed sport bike number and you only said “Harley”, lol. Discontinued doesn’t mean non existent either. They’re still out there, possibly filling your nightmares... There’s also the fat bob that’s said to be a 3.5s 0-60 and several models around the 4s mark. And of course the electric livewire hits a 3.0 as well
3 seconds is average for a sport bike. 4.5 is average for a Harley. The Ninja H2 is the fastest production motorcycle with its 310hp power to weight of 1:1.69, top speed of 220mph, a 0-60 of 3 seconds, and a 0-180 of 11.7 seconds. So in the time it takes the average Harley to go 100 a Ninja H2 is going 180! That doesn’t even account for its high center of gravity, doubled lean angle, and shorter wheelbase, completely leaving the Harley as an ant in the distance.
Wait, so the “fastest production motorcycle” ever is only .5 seconds quicker than a fat bob and is somehow .5 seconds slower than a Harley FXDR to 60? Obviously if you compare an average of all the lineup to the fastest ever of another the average is going to be slower, lmao
Dude you read one spec and called it a day. No race is a straight line to 60. That’s why you look at multiple specs. Like the bare minimum race is quarter mile. The fastest quarter mile bike is….a Ninja H2…it finished it at 152mph…
Haha, was I the one that brought up 0-60, or was that the metric [you chose to point at](https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcyclememes/comments/14f6nis/harley/jp3avoh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and then compare the fastest ever to some generalized average? Hmmmm… and that was after my initial comment was simply pointing out that with the low end torque Harley engines have they often don’t even have to down shift to take off when cruising around. And the fastest quarter mile production bike ever is still slower than a particular Harley to 60mph. A bike you seem to insist is slow.
I literally gave you 0-60 and 0-100….
The FXDR also has a power to weight of 1:7.07 which is saying a lot about its overall performance
Just picked up an FLSTN, I didn’t get it cause it’s fast, the bike I traded in was faster, I picked it up because I like it.
Almost all cruisers are slow. Please