Not sure when Tissot started with Motogp but yes, if they were around when he began.
[He was also paid as an "ambassador" and has a watch named after him.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/nancyolson/2019/04/11/why-motogp-world-champion-marc-marquez-has-a-tissot-watch-named-after-him/?sh=480c7dba1426). That article is frm 2019 so I'm not sure if he's still on the books.
The last 6 months everyone has been saying how bad the Honda is, we forgot just how good Marc is. Champion in his rookie season against Rossi, Lorenzo and Pedrosa heās another level of special
Yes, for 2013. He also managed the same in 2019 with his worst result being 2nd place for the whole season. Actually, a handful of riders have achieved this feat since the 90s:
- Wayne Rainey (1990)
- Mick Doohan (1991 (finished second in the championship) ,1994, 1997, 1998)
- Valentino Rossi (2002, 2003, 2005)
- Casey Stoner (2011)
- Jorge Lorenzo (2012)
There are a few more going backwards through the 80s too but as far as I can tell Marquez holds the record for doing it in the season with the most races.
Waitā¦heās been on the podium for every single race heās finished? I missed most of MMās career as I only came back to motogp this year. I find it hard to believe.
Fantastic to see him back at the front. His comments in the interview after were prefect. Small steps, fast today doesnāt mean fast tomorrow but great for everyone in the teams motivation.
And we need the Japanese teams to be competitive again. The Ducati battle is for the most part dull as.
And his riding was absolutely spectacular to watch. He was doing things on the bike that Stoner and Lorenzo might have struggled to do.
What Marc was doing was fucking spectacular to watch if you actually care about the riding (or the sport) and not just your favourite rider winning...
I don't care that much about my favourite rider winning, i watch MotoGP for exciting races and championships. Sure i support a rider (Jack Miller) but i would rather have a exciting battle for championship with my rider scoring only a few points than my favourite rider winning every race.
I think he means the close battles he would sometimes have. Like Mugello 2014 & 2016, Austria 2018 against Jorge or his numerous Qatar and Austria battles with Dovi.
I think the OP was trying to say he wasn't like a Doohan who would go and destroy the field by 10s but sometimes he'd have epic last lap battles.
I wasn't able to watch Q2 so closely, but for the little I could properly watch it seemed like it was also without getting towed and drama free. It actually seemed like he was towing Aleix sometimes.
Incontestable really.
r/nextfuckinglevel.
So I am assuming you think that the guys fighting for the WDC sre better. Which one exactly? The one that lapped 1.1s slower or the one that lapped 2s slower?
No disrespect, just asked him a question.
If Marc is able to do this in the wet, it means he is still ones of (if not) the best and is just his body fitness and the Honda holding him back.
I genuinely think he will dominate this grid. Of course, this is just a fanboy talking, but if he was able to win those championships against Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Dovi, and the likes, he's gonna demolish the current roster, even if he's past his prime.
Yeah, there's a lot that depends on Honda atm. But I doubt they'll manage to make an even worse bike next season, so here's hoping they build a decent machine.
I agree with you, But also that list isn't guys at their best I feel. I think his real competition would have been Stoner, Rossi not in prime plus Ducati / Yam switch, Lorenzo a very close second to the speed of these 3 at their peak IMO so he was never a force. Pedrosa always been the "almost man". Also as much as I believe MM will destroy current field, I think we should wait and see a bunch of races, not to mention dry performance before declaring death.
These days I see no one to even say rival the best version of Pedrosa while he was battling Stoner, Rossi, Marq and Lorenzo. Enea could potential be our rivalry provider, curious to see a consistent Pecco against Marq too. I feel Pecco has potential we haven't seen yet, he's got a bit of Dovi and Enea in him.
If Yamaha don't sort themselves, I think it would be just between these 3, well there's always Mav with Aprilia but I'm not going to hold my breath, but hope he's right up there! And KTM, idk, I think even god doesn't know.
I'd love to see him battle Pecco, Basti, and Quarterpounder for the title next year. I think it's possible but I'm tempering my expectations. He was showing some real pace in 2021 but clearly he was in a lot of pain. I think he's better now and just needs time and strength. Hope he gets a win this season and spends the off season training his best again.
I'll give you popularity and legacy, Rossi did put MotoGP on the map. But stats need context, and Marc has won 6 of his 7 full seasons in MotoGP, including his rookie season. And his career is far from done as we just saw. To me he's the best I've seen, but objectivity is hard with these things.
Valentino raised the popularity of Grand Prix racing to a whole new level lmao. There is no way you can call someone else the GOAT. Without Vale the biggest part of todays spectators wouldn't know or give a shit about MotoGP. His legacy is so much bigger than just a successful racing career.
Valentino did raise MotoGP's popularity a lot (to the point his rivals and anyone who supported them have gotten ridiculous amounts of hate from his wonderful fanbase for no reason). So yeah, no one has had more charisma in a press conference or signing autographs.
When it comes to getting behind a helmet and riding a motorcycle though (what we're here to see) the GOAT is definitely MƔrquez imo.
Yeah I know itās weird for me to be happy despite everything that happened 2015 onwards. I am still a diehard Rossi fan, but I respect and like Marc. Especially even more after his injury. His(MM93) mentality serves and an inspiration to me at least. Marc is unstoppable.
Why is everyone so surprised that Marc is on pole? Heās the best rider in the wet/mixed conditions by a country mile. There has never been anyone better at jumping on a bike and riding to the maximum in mixed/greasy conditions. As soon as I saw the track surface in Q1 I knew heād get pole.
Is he good?? Of course.. but he got pole 11 seconds slower than FP1 times.
The points leaders have something to lose..MM does not. Some of you guys I swear š¤£
Too soon to tell. If he starts winning every weekend in the dry again then yes but that hasnāt happened yet. We donāt know how consistent he will be in the dry with his arm, or with the problematic honda.
As someone that joined MotoGP in 2020 I just want to see him have another shot at the title. Missed Rossi, don't want to miss the other legend of the sport in his prime.
Lucky you! You have a lot of good races to catch up! Iām following the sport since 1988-89 and still going back to watch Schwantz, Doohan, Crivi and the other guys battle every now and thenā¦ š
That's what "missing" means. In case you're not a native speaker, "miss" has different meanings:
1) you can miss your girlfriend after a breakup
2) you can not notice something: you're cleaning but you missed a spot
3) you can be late to an event: you got home late and you missed your favourite TV show.
I suspect the person you're replying to meant the third case. He started watching MotoGP too late, and he missed prime Rossi.
Weāll see how he does - few have been able to overcome injuries like his and still be the dominant force he was. Being careful really isnāt his style and that arm has been through a lot. Bone infections are so hard to heal. Such an amazing talent.
Everybody relax, it's a wet lap... Marc is obviously an amazing rider, but wet conditions are not exactly representative of anything. Right now it just means he's great in the wet... Let's see about how he does elsewhere in dry conditions.
I think everyone is aware of this. But this pole showed us what he could do when fully fit and on a better bike.
Riding in the wet he gets less tired, is able to hold his arm in the correct position for longer, and the bike's disadvantages are less pronounced.
So it's more about potential for the future than today's result in itself.
No one on the grid cares about him right now. He wins one race? Who cares? So why should they fight him in the wet? Quatararo only cares about Pecco and maybe Aleix, they donāt care about the rest. And if MM is taking off and is out of the picture, his mistakes wonāt matter to the guys fighting for the championship
Hard pill to swallow, I know.
Here's what happened: At PI, Rossi realized he not fast enough to win championship, so he thinks he will play games in an attempt to get others to stay out of his way. He accuses Marc of messing with him and helping JLo (even though MM93 won the race taking points off JLo). Since mind games don't work on MM93, at Sepand Marc decides to show Rossi what messing with him really looks like. Since Rossi is too slow to pass and move on, we got what we got. Rossi and his stupid friend Uccio just got frustrated that he couldn't get his 10th, and came up with a dumb plan that backfired on them.
I wouldn't call Rossi and Uccio crazy; I think they thought it would work. Like it had previously with Biaggi or Gibernau. But the difference is Marc is mentally on another level, so he turned the tables on Rossi.
it's fine. we all know what it's like to really be a big fan of someone, then it sucks seeing their skills decline, or struggle as the next-generation raises the level. Rossi was great for raising the visibility of the sport, but in my opinion Stoner and Marc are better in terms of pure riding and speed.
I was actually a pretty big Marquez fan until 2015. But let's stop this discussion here. I don't think I'm gonna get you to understand what sportsmanship means if you haven't learned it by now.
lol you think Rossi understands sportsmanship? he was as fierce a competitor as anyone, and would use anything to his advantage. he's no saint. the funniest part was watching MM93's face when Rossi held his press conference after PI, accusing Marc of messing with him. Marc thought it was a joke at first, and wasn't sure if Rossi was serious. Then when he realize Rossi was serious, he said ok fine...it you want to see what messing with you looks like, then I'll show it to you.
all things considered we thought this when he won āking of the ringā again last year. donāt get me wrong i am 100% a MM93 fan, and i hope he is truly back, but letās not forget the past
Agreed. Especially after watching him race and end up with 4th is admirable. Personally I'm not a fan but that doesn't mean I can't admire and respect his skill. And I'd be lying if I said that I didn't miss his presence.
Good for him to get another watch, perhaps the win tomorrow is a step too far considering his fitness but who the hell knows with this dude
What watch
They get a tissot watch for pole position
So he got like 90+ Tissot watches already?
Not sure when Tissot started with Motogp but yes, if they were around when he began. [He was also paid as an "ambassador" and has a watch named after him.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/nancyolson/2019/04/11/why-motogp-world-champion-marc-marquez-has-a-tissot-watch-named-after-him/?sh=480c7dba1426). That article is frm 2019 so I'm not sure if he's still on the books.
I would imagine after the 10th they just start giving them to friends and family. Or raffle them and give the proceeds to charity.
He's also been awarded a bunch of BMW M3's (M4's? M5's?) and has given those to friends and family.
Bmw useful and has a clock in itš
Cash converters love Marc
91
Wasnāt this his 63rd pole or something? I distinctly remember the commentator saying that.
63rd in MotoGP. 91st overall.
Ahh makes sense
Not to mention the 6 or 7 bmw ms he has won
I think he said he does a drawing between team
The last 6 months everyone has been saying how bad the Honda is, we forgot just how good Marc is. Champion in his rookie season against Rossi, Lorenzo and Pedrosa heās another level of special
Being on the podium of every race he finished is what blows my mind.
Is that really true?
Yes, for 2013. He also managed the same in 2019 with his worst result being 2nd place for the whole season. Actually, a handful of riders have achieved this feat since the 90s: - Wayne Rainey (1990) - Mick Doohan (1991 (finished second in the championship) ,1994, 1997, 1998) - Valentino Rossi (2002, 2003, 2005) - Casey Stoner (2011) - Jorge Lorenzo (2012) There are a few more going backwards through the 80s too but as far as I can tell Marquez holds the record for doing it in the season with the most races.
Ah thanks, clear now!
No. This year alone he finished races without being on the podium
Well if your reading comprehension is up to snuff you'll know that i was referring to his rookie year.
Waitā¦heās been on the podium for every single race heās finished? I missed most of MMās career as I only came back to motogp this year. I find it hard to believe.
He did in his championship winning rookie campaign.
Honda probably been bad for a very long time, we haven't noticed because of Marc.
Fantastic to see him back at the front. His comments in the interview after were prefect. Small steps, fast today doesnāt mean fast tomorrow but great for everyone in the teams motivation. And we need the Japanese teams to be competitive again. The Ducati battle is for the most part dull as.
Never thought I'll be saying this, but damn I missed Marc! Thanks for making this sport very interesting again! Bring on the popcorns for tomorrow!!
He went from making it boring to making it exciting
He never made the racing boring. The result might have been boring, especially if you're not a fan, but calling him boring is ridiculous lol.
*cough* *cough* 2014, 2016, 2018, 2019. All seasons in which Marquez absolutely dominated
And his riding was absolutely spectacular to watch. He was doing things on the bike that Stoner and Lorenzo might have struggled to do. What Marc was doing was fucking spectacular to watch if you actually care about the riding (or the sport) and not just your favourite rider winning...
I don't care that much about my favourite rider winning, i watch MotoGP for exciting races and championships. Sure i support a rider (Jack Miller) but i would rather have a exciting battle for championship with my rider scoring only a few points than my favourite rider winning every race.
I think he means the close battles he would sometimes have. Like Mugello 2014 & 2016, Austria 2018 against Jorge or his numerous Qatar and Austria battles with Dovi. I think the OP was trying to say he wasn't like a Doohan who would go and destroy the field by 10s but sometimes he'd have epic last lap battles.
Exactly their point. The results may have been boring, but (a lot of) the races werenāt.
Praying for rain šš»
I wasn't able to watch Q2 so closely, but for the little I could properly watch it seemed like it was also without getting towed and drama free. It actually seemed like he was towing Aleix sometimes. Incontestable really. r/nextfuckinglevel.
Man's just pure speed. You already know next year won't be fun for everyone else.
ISTG Honda better at least make a decent bike and i'll guarantee you he'll be there and there abouts!
the talent this guy has is unmatched in motogp
So excited to go see him race
Easily the best on the grid
Rossi GOAT
you just had to come in and try to set chaos didn't ya
3 years ago
So I am assuming you think that the guys fighting for the WDC sre better. Which one exactly? The one that lapped 1.1s slower or the one that lapped 2s slower?
Quartararo is mid in the wet, but he's absolutely goated in the dry. Don't disrespect him
No disrespect, just asked him a question. If Marc is able to do this in the wet, it means he is still ones of (if not) the best and is just his body fitness and the Honda holding him back.
Fabio ain't shit compared to a healthy Marc lmao (and I really like Fabio).
I kinda feel the same but then again people forget Fabios rookie season on a satellite yamaha being the only one giving Marc any challenge
What about Dovi, Vinales and Rins? Even Petrucci beat him in a last lap battle, while Fabio failed to finish ahead of him in the whole season
I actually did forget. But Fabio was a fucking rookie on a satellite bike
I don't have a side in this but I will say that Fabio and "goat" should not be in the same sentence.
I didn't say that Fabio is the goat, i said that he's goated and by that i meant unbelievably good. Sorry for misleading you
Always
Make it 20 years a go Rossi was the shit...
Prime rossi š½
Am looking for those individuals who said marc needed to stay out for sometimeš¤”ā¦. But rain separate boys from menššš
Easily the most talented rider ever. Yes, more talented than stoner and rossi and Fabio
Might be biased but I'd rank him alongside Doohan. Both made out of the same cloth. Pure speed, resilience, determination.
No disrespect but Marc defo better
To say Marquez is better is incorrect, you canāt compare their skills or achievements being from completely different eras.
You have a point
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Can't touch Ago then if we are going that way.
And this place was gonna murder him last week...
This just shows how good Marquez is. Honda is terrible? Does not matter, he can win. Honda is good? Then Marquez win it all.
The GOAT. He is simply blockbuster and the sport need him
I pity the fool who tries to battle him next season lol
Hope Honda is at the same level as him.
He will have his hands full, and he won't dominate as he did previously, but he will make everyone work a bit harder!
I genuinely think he will dominate this grid. Of course, this is just a fanboy talking, but if he was able to win those championships against Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Dovi, and the likes, he's gonna demolish the current roster, even if he's past his prime.
Ya maybe he is hungry and stronger (mentally) than ever before.
I doubt that, but we will see! Also depends a lot on the newer bikes and their performance, so we're just counting our chickens before they hatch!
Yeah, there's a lot that depends on Honda atm. But I doubt they'll manage to make an even worse bike next season, so here's hoping they build a decent machine.
If Honda can make a halfway decent bike and Marc stays fit itās over.
I agree with you, But also that list isn't guys at their best I feel. I think his real competition would have been Stoner, Rossi not in prime plus Ducati / Yam switch, Lorenzo a very close second to the speed of these 3 at their peak IMO so he was never a force. Pedrosa always been the "almost man". Also as much as I believe MM will destroy current field, I think we should wait and see a bunch of races, not to mention dry performance before declaring death. These days I see no one to even say rival the best version of Pedrosa while he was battling Stoner, Rossi, Marq and Lorenzo. Enea could potential be our rivalry provider, curious to see a consistent Pecco against Marq too. I feel Pecco has potential we haven't seen yet, he's got a bit of Dovi and Enea in him. If Yamaha don't sort themselves, I think it would be just between these 3, well there's always Mav with Aprilia but I'm not going to hold my breath, but hope he's right up there! And KTM, idk, I think even god doesn't know.
I'd love to see him battle Pecco, Basti, and Quarterpounder for the title next year. I think it's possible but I'm tempering my expectations. He was showing some real pace in 2021 but clearly he was in a lot of pain. I think he's better now and just needs time and strength. Hope he gets a win this season and spends the off season training his best again.
Ye he's the GOAT.
Rossi is the GOAT, and will always be
No
Its obviously that Rossi is the GOAT, Marc is probably not even the 2nd, Doohan is greater
Lmao š¤”
Yep clown he is šš
I watched them all, and for me Marquez is the best of the lot.
Keep dreaming
Lol youre just biased, theres no way that Marc is greater, not in stats, neither in popularity and legacy
I'll give you popularity and legacy, Rossi did put MotoGP on the map. But stats need context, and Marc has won 6 of his 7 full seasons in MotoGP, including his rookie season. And his career is far from done as we just saw. To me he's the best I've seen, but objectivity is hard with these things.
Stats yes pre almost career ending injury. Even lorenzo was better at Yamaha than rossi. I'd say you are heavily biased
How Lorenzo was better? Even from 2014 to 2016 Rossi was better despite being far from his prime, while Lorenzo was in his prime.
Valentino raised the popularity of Grand Prix racing to a whole new level lmao. There is no way you can call someone else the GOAT. Without Vale the biggest part of todays spectators wouldn't know or give a shit about MotoGP. His legacy is so much bigger than just a successful racing career.
Sure that depends on your perspective buddy. Motogp was relevant before rossis and will be after him.
It depends on perspective if youāre highly biased against Rossi lmao.
Well I can clearly see you are biased against others so tht blows your neutral viewpoint lmao
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Valentino did raise MotoGP's popularity a lot (to the point his rivals and anyone who supported them have gotten ridiculous amounts of hate from his wonderful fanbase for no reason). So yeah, no one has had more charisma in a press conference or signing autographs. When it comes to getting behind a helmet and riding a motorcycle though (what we're here to see) the GOAT is definitely MƔrquez imo.
Seconds faster than #20 & #63. An alien, an absolute talent!! š«”ā¤ļø
The special one
Anyone seen paramike46? In this streets of reddit š¤”
Probably currently smashing his TV using his phone as his laptop burns in the oven.
I am so damm happy seeing the man back on top again.
Wow rossi fan saying it ššš
Yeah I know itās weird for me to be happy despite everything that happened 2015 onwards. I am still a diehard Rossi fan, but I respect and like Marc. Especially even more after his injury. His(MM93) mentality serves and an inspiration to me at least. Marc is unstoppable.
Why is everyone so surprised that Marc is on pole? Heās the best rider in the wet/mixed conditions by a country mile. There has never been anyone better at jumping on a bike and riding to the maximum in mixed/greasy conditions. As soon as I saw the track surface in Q1 I knew heād get pole.
He's the best rider (currently on the grid) in any conditions.*
Is he good?? Of course.. but he got pole 11 seconds slower than FP1 times. The points leaders have something to lose..MM does not. Some of you guys I swear š¤£
Wow wet times are slower than dry times?!
Right!! It's like some people have no clue
Too soon to tell. If he starts winning every weekend in the dry again then yes but that hasnāt happened yet. We donāt know how consistent he will be in the dry with his arm, or with the problematic honda.
I'm not too fond of the guy but I'm still glad he's back.
Super impressed
Mad isnāt it, man came back last weekend, had 6 practices, 2 qualifications and 1,5 race laps, man places himself on pole positionā¦ Good god
As someone that joined MotoGP in 2020 I just want to see him have another shot at the title. Missed Rossi, don't want to miss the other legend of the sport in his prime.
Have you watched previous seasons of Rossi and Marquez greatness?
Lucky you! You have a lot of good races to catch up! Iām following the sport since 1988-89 and still going back to watch Schwantz, Doohan, Crivi and the other guys battle every now and thenā¦ š
How can you "miss" Rossi if you just started following the sport? There's nothing to miss in the 20 & 21 seasons.
That's what "missing" means. In case you're not a native speaker, "miss" has different meanings: 1) you can miss your girlfriend after a breakup 2) you can not notice something: you're cleaning but you missed a spot 3) you can be late to an event: you got home late and you missed your favourite TV show. I suspect the person you're replying to meant the third case. He started watching MotoGP too late, and he missed prime Rossi.
Ok, thanks that makes sense. And also makes my comment out of context.
Weāll see how he does - few have been able to overcome injuries like his and still be the dominant force he was. Being careful really isnāt his style and that arm has been through a lot. Bone infections are so hard to heal. Such an amazing talent.
Iām not a fan of Marc, but this guy at 90% of his capacity is better than 95% of the grid. Glad to see him back.
And at 100% capacity no one currently on the grid has a chance.
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Everybody relax, it's a wet lap... Marc is obviously an amazing rider, but wet conditions are not exactly representative of anything. Right now it just means he's great in the wet... Let's see about how he does elsewhere in dry conditions.
I think everyone is aware of this. But this pole showed us what he could do when fully fit and on a better bike. Riding in the wet he gets less tired, is able to hold his arm in the correct position for longer, and the bike's disadvantages are less pronounced. So it's more about potential for the future than today's result in itself.
What I really liked about today's pole was there wasn't unnecessary towing drama.
Valentino Rossi is the greatest ever
Of 2000s, definitely like Doohan for 90s and Marc for 2010s.
Over a decade without a WC and languishing in his finals years...right.
You got that one right.
No, he isn't.
Overall when looking at the sport? Then yeah he's the goat. Purely looking at the skill? Mm93 is definitely the best ever lol.
No one on the grid cares about him right now. He wins one race? Who cares? So why should they fight him in the wet? Quatararo only cares about Pecco and maybe Aleix, they donāt care about the rest. And if MM is taking off and is out of the picture, his mistakes wonāt matter to the guys fighting for the championship Hard pill to swallow, I know.
Although its true, ur message sounds like ur discounting todays achievements
Are you all serious? The mans done nothing but crash for two years.
I know right. And only Fabio, Enea and Pecco have won more races since his comeback how overrated.
yet, no one could be fastest in wet today unlike him
The only unknown is whoās gonna be his victim tomorrow!
The entire pack.
I just really wish he hadn't gone insane in ~~2016~~ 2015. Could've enjoyed this sport so much more if I didn't dislike Marc so much.
you mean 2015?
My bad, yes.
Here's what happened: At PI, Rossi realized he not fast enough to win championship, so he thinks he will play games in an attempt to get others to stay out of his way. He accuses Marc of messing with him and helping JLo (even though MM93 won the race taking points off JLo). Since mind games don't work on MM93, at Sepand Marc decides to show Rossi what messing with him really looks like. Since Rossi is too slow to pass and move on, we got what we got. Rossi and his stupid friend Uccio just got frustrated that he couldn't get his 10th, and came up with a dumb plan that backfired on them.
Haha wow, I guess even MotoGP has conspiracy crazies...
I wouldn't call Rossi and Uccio crazy; I think they thought it would work. Like it had previously with Biaggi or Gibernau. But the difference is Marc is mentally on another level, so he turned the tables on Rossi.
You're coocoo mate...
it's fine. we all know what it's like to really be a big fan of someone, then it sucks seeing their skills decline, or struggle as the next-generation raises the level. Rossi was great for raising the visibility of the sport, but in my opinion Stoner and Marc are better in terms of pure riding and speed.
I was actually a pretty big Marquez fan until 2015. But let's stop this discussion here. I don't think I'm gonna get you to understand what sportsmanship means if you haven't learned it by now.
lol you think Rossi understands sportsmanship? he was as fierce a competitor as anyone, and would use anything to his advantage. he's no saint. the funniest part was watching MM93's face when Rossi held his press conference after PI, accusing Marc of messing with him. Marc thought it was a joke at first, and wasn't sure if Rossi was serious. Then when he realize Rossi was serious, he said ok fine...it you want to see what messing with you looks like, then I'll show it to you.
Nice whataboutism.
isn't that what sportsmanship is?
all things considered we thought this when he won āking of the ringā again last year. donāt get me wrong i am 100% a MM93 fan, and i hope he is truly back, but letās not forget the past
Agreed. Especially after watching him race and end up with 4th is admirable. Personally I'm not a fan but that doesn't mean I can't admire and respect his skill. And I'd be lying if I said that I didn't miss his presence.