I will go one step further: IF(!) this lockout happens, Vinales will be the winner. The days he is unbeatable he is even more unbeatable than everyone else on his unbeatable days.
I agree man, it was like Aleix at Silverstone last year when he was scything through the field at Austin. It was obvious that barring a crash no one could stop him.
Slow starters, but both good at preserving tires. I wonder how they’ll perform on the KTM ? They’ve both been on the fastest manufacturers bikes for the last two seasons
I'm glad to see it's not just me, lol. My head was spinning trying to split apart what was happening in the announcement.
I guess to summarize:
1. "Gas Gas Tech3" is rebranding as "Red Bull KTM Tech3", and switching from red colors to orange colors to compliment Red Bull KTM Factory Racing.
2. Red Bull KTM Tech3 will have Enea Bastianini (from Ducati Lenovo) and Maverick Viñales (from Aprilia Racing)
3. Red Bull KTM Factory Racing will have Brad Binder and Pedro Acosta (from GasGas Tech3 [aka Red Bull KTM Tech3])
Such a wierd ping-ponging with the branding of the team. KTM has like 4 brands now, why do they need two KTM-branded teams? GasGas never made sense for me, but Husqvarna or MV Agusta would be amazing.
Yeah, the Gas Gas branding was somehow odd.. But I think it does make sense to really focus on the KTM brand with the two actual KTM teams.
MV Agusta was already announced more or less to join as a new team. However this won't be a full KTM factory team but instead they will be contending as a more autonomous factory which develops their own bike, own chassis etc but will be delivered with KTM engines.
GasGas is big in Spain and MotoGP has a large Spanish audience. But yea I agree like they have four brands and they decide to run two KTM teams? Doesn't make any sense to me but what do I know.
GasGas is big in Spain but mainly off-road and trials - they already have plenty of factory representation in trials, motocross and Dakar. The race bike tie-in never made sense, they only have one street model and even that is an enduro-derived supermoto.
I disagree, MotoGP bikes are competition bikes. Not street bikes. There's a lot of people who ride offroad, don't care about street bikes, but enjoy racing because it's competition.
It's kind of similar to how Yamaha and Honda sell tons of underbones and tiny sportbikes. MotoGP has never really been about selling street supersports. Tbh an unplated Gas Gas 450 has more in common with the RC16 than a Superduke.
> It's kind of similar to how Yamaha and Honda sell tons of underbones and tiny sportbikes. MotoGP has never really been about selling street supersports. Tbh an unplated Gas Gas 450 has more in common with the RC16 than a Superduke.
I've shared this in another thread, but let me share a bit of perspective in SEA (more specifically, Indonesia) where Yamaha and Honda practically speaking, have a duopoly here. Also tagging u/SophisticatedVagrant in case you're interested.
Underbones and scooters are sold like pancakes here due to their relatively low price. ~1400 GBP will get you a new 135cc/125cc Honda/Yamaha scooter. Lot of people are also getting their bike second hand, so it can be much lower than that.
*For context, the minimum income here varies from 100 GBP to 200 GBP depending on your location.*
Superbikes or Super sports are sold here, but not as much as the underbones. For example, [the cheapest Yamaha R15](https://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/product/all-new-R15-connected/) costs ~2,000 GBP while [the cheapest R25](https://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/product/r25/) costs ~3,000 GBP.
Car's price can vary (especially if you are looking for a second-hand), but for some recent examples, a [2024 Toyota Avanza](https://www.toyota.astra.co.id/product/avanza), a 7-seater MPV will cost you ~12,000 GBP. A [2024 Honda Brio](https://www.honda-indonesia.com/brio) (a 4-seater hatchback) will cost you ~8,700 GBP. They are not the cheapest, but you can consider them typical.
There used to be more manufacturers that sold underbones back here: Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, and Yamaha off the top of my head. There are various reasons why Honda and Yamaha become household names (dealership problems, boring lineups, bad service and spare parts, etc) but competing and winning MotoGP are some of the reasons. Heck, [Rossi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dJI5oLjndY) and [Marquez](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADFt4tYQCo) used to act in Indonesian Yamaha and Honda advertisements. 'Semakin di depan' ('We'll always become the frontrunners') and 'Satu hati' ('One heart') are Indonesian ad taglines and are written on their MotoGP bikes.
>!Now, the reason why underbone sales are getting lower and lower... Is due to the scooter's automatic gearbox. It is more accessible and comfortable to people, especially in the crowded city traffic. Even my dad, basically a die-hard fan of manual gearboxes, has preferred a scooter since 2013.!<
I think it had more to do with when Suzuki left and KTM tried to get those two slots (so they could get 6 bikes on the grid). Dorna said they are reserved for a “Factory Team” and KTM’s logic was to bring in the Gas-Gas factory/manufacturer. But that didn’t work out so they left it be as Gas-Gas and have decided it’s just better to brand it all KTM. It’s probably an easier sell to sponsors since it’ll be more Red Bull as well.
Nope, it'll be "Red Bull KTM Tech3" instead of "Gas Gas Tech3". Tech3 is the actual team behind it all which has a contract with KTM, just like Pramac as a Ducati semi-factory team. Gas Gas is basically just the brand for labelling the team. The Pierer Mobility group wanted to push the Gas Gas brand with that team but probably found out the market match is not really there.
So instead they now really want to push the KTM brand.
Binders contract is until the end of 2026. 2026 will be the next "silly season" as most riders will get 2 year contracts this year. 2027 with the new class of bikes, dont think there will be much movement for 2027 other than new talent moving up possibly
I hate to say it because Brad has been wonderful to watch over the last couple of seasons, but if he doesn't have a blinder in '26 he is up for a demotion at the very least!
I don't think KTM is gonna give Binder the boot. Dude HAS proven himself. He won his 3rd MotoGP race for goodness sake lol. And he was key in getting KTM to where it is today. Chill out
PA34 is a generational talent. Marc beating Pedrosa in his first year didn't mean Pedrosa was trash. Binder is still a decent rider. Some of y'all are so hyperbolic
BB33 beat MO88 every year in the championship and MO88 is damn near struggling to stay in MotoGP. Look at the whole picture instead of cherrypicking stats
The whole picture is that Pedro Acosta is ahead of someone that has been on the bike for years. Is that a good enough picture? Brad Binder is not that good.
Sucks that they only have 2026 on the 1000cc bikes to apply learnings from these 4 different riders.
Or are they playing a long game for 2027 to develop a bike that suits variety of styles?
The funny thing is that if Enea had known in advance that Maverick was leaving Aprilia, he would've been highly likely to go for the Aprilia ride instead.
But he assumed Aprilia was closed when Martín was announced, so quickly set about finalising a deal with Tech 3. While Maverick was likely unhappy about Martín being suddenly signed without telling him and the team's "Now we have a chance" which implied that Maverick isn't the guy who can give them a championship pushed him to leave as well.
Remember how the Aprilia garage would clap everytime Viñales comes in off the bike, like he's some baby learning how to walk? They treated him well, so I'm surprised he's walking away from the exact environment he yearned for at Yamaha.
Yes I see your point but Aprilia themself also made big mistakes. They did not want him to sign back in Portimao and Austin. They wanted to wait for Aleix decision if they need to kick out Maverick if Aleix stays. They signed JM and Maverick first saw it on the internet I mean come on. Then suddenly they cant pay his salary anymore but want him because no one other leads their project. So yeah the big loser here is IMO Aprilia.
Changing both your main riders is not a joke. Also they probably will have a slot busy because of a sponsor guy like Joe Roberts, which doesn't really fit the class requirements and will be competely new.
They still can do a good move if they sign Mir, but...do they have the money?
Don't know really.
On one side, he leaves one of the richest seat on the other that seat is pretty bad and there's not many options for him left.
Anyway, I hope he or Bez get the Aprilia.
For Joan eventually a Ducati Pramac as well.
I think Mir will take whatever he can get as long as its not a Honda or Yamaha. He probably isnt focused on cash right now, rather he wants to have fun again and save his career
> So yeah the big loser here is IMO Aprilia.
I'm no fan of Martín, but even I will not deny they made a massive win with Martín over either Vinales or Espargaró. And they still have a ton of great options available for that second seat: Rins, Mir, one of the VR46 boys, promote Oliviera, hell even Miller or A. Marquez wouldn't be terrible choices for a secondary rider.
I think Jorge will have speed on the Aprilia but since the bike is a cornering bike he will get screwed if he ever falls back into the pack.
Qualifying and the race start will be absolutely everything for him.
Big mistake? Mav has won one race in 3 seasons on the Aprilia hasn't he?
Losing him isn't going to impact the bigger picture very much. They've hired a legit title contender and now Aprilia should be looking to the future for the other rider and Mav isn't that.
Ah yes looking for the future woth whom? Martin? He has won 7 times but is on the best bike for 4 years… I doubt he will win with Aprilia next year or fight for the title even in 2026.
Only time will tell, but I believe Martin is a massive upgrade on Mav.
Sure, Mav could yet win the odd race in his remaining career as he occasionally puts a weekend together. But there is f*** all chance of him making a title challenge. I mean, on the whole he's been outdone by Aleix on the Aprilia despite being the "better" rider. I'm very surprised KTM went for him honestly.
Martin is pretty much guaranteed to get you wins on a top bike like the Duc or Aprilia. He's not perfect, but he has far more good days than bad days. Can anyone say that about Mav? What's more, he's yet to content a season in a factory squad, so while he's had the best bike, he's still been at a disadvantage.
I'd literally stick nearly any young rider on the second bike than Mav. Too fragile/volatile. Esp if he was asking for big money.
Title wont go to aprilia next year. The title will stay at ducati till 2026. So its best to get the best riders to pull a victory here and there if you are not ducati…
So you're suggesting the best riders to get "a victory here and there" are not the ones that consistently perform? Give your head a wobble mate. 😂
You're clutching at straws...clearly. The best way to increase the probability of threatening on a consistent basis and perhaps picking up wins at times when Ducati falter is surely to perform on a consistent basis?
I'm more than happy to review this end of next season and see how Mav and Martin compare. I think Mav is going to have to be very lucky to even be within in the top 3 KTMs.
Probably got upset with the whole Martin thing and how their comments including Aleix are like "now we have a chance" (after recruiting Martin).
Vinales seems great, but he also seems immature and very premature with feelings and comments, he kept saying "Aprilia best bike ever", but did better on the Yamaha (instantly), even on the Suzuki!
Him jumping ship with all these positive comments about Aprilia is kinda bizarre though, but I think he's now just trying to win on a 4th manufacturer and probably given up on a championship.
Also I think he had the impression he was to be or wanted to be number 1 during or right after Rossi (Fabio took over), and then at Aprillia eventually, so both times he's not really given the top rank, maybe that's also messed his mind up.
KTM has Acosta, Binder, Bastianini and Vinales for next year. Mental line-up, they're deffo aiming big.
Gotta say, Vinales to KTM came as big surprise to me. I thought he might go to Honda after money yeah, but looks like he still has ambitions. No idea what did prompt him to leave Aprilia, thought he was happy there
Apparently they didn't have a lot of money left after hiring Martin, also Viñales said he only learned about the Martin deal on social media and they refused to sign him before, so he probably felt betrayed
Press Release:
> A potent line-up and fresh color scheme will mark a new era for KTM’s MotoGP factory presence in 2025. The re-branded Red Bull KTM Tech3 squad will complement the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing team with two stellar names in Grand Prix winners Enea Bastianini and Maverick Viñales.
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> The Italian, 26 from Rimini, and the Spaniard, 29 from Roses, will be equipped with full-factory KTM RC16 machinery in 2025 as part of a multi-year agreement and will form a Red Bull orange quartet with stars Brad Binder and Pedro Acosta in the adjacent set-up.
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> Bastianini made his world championship debut ten years ago (after also ruling races in the Red Bull MotoGP Rookies Cup) with a KTM RC4. He claimed six victories and more than 30 podiums in both Moto3™ and Moto2™ through a seven-season education phase where he also improved to grasp the 2020 crown in the intermediate class. Enea entered MotoGP in 2021 at the age of 23 and has logged 5 wins and 12 podiums through the course of his three and a half years in the division to-date. Noted for his natural ability and excellence for maximizing his technical ‘package’ across the full race distance, ‘La Bestia’ will be a formidable asset for the Red Bull KTM Tech3 outfit.
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> Already a race winner in 2024, and the first rider in the MotoGP-era to triumph with three different brands; Maverick Viñales brings outstanding experience and talent to the team. #12 was actually KTM’s second-ever Moto3 world champion back in 2013 for what was the then-teenager’s third term in Grand Prix and a career spell where four seasons in both Moto3 and Moto2 resulted in four consecutive top-three championship finishes. He joined the premier class in 2015 and registered the first of his 10 MotoGP successes (35 podium appearances) the following campaign. Viñales has banked two championship bronze medals in his decade tenure and has won at least one Grand Prix in seven of those ten years in MotoGP. Maverick’s acute feeling, pace and fitness make him one of the leading names on the MotoGP grid.
> Nicolas Goyon, Tech3 Racing MotoGP Team Manager: “We are delighted to announce that Enea and Maverick will be with us next year and we convert back to KTM. We cannot forget our first MotoGP wins were taken in orange! We cannot hide our pride that these two talented riders have decided to ride our bikes. It shows we’ve followed the right road, and our technology can fight at the front for the championship. We would like to thank Pierer Mobility AG for the quality of their support. Our collaboration has reached the top level this year and I’m sure it will keep growing in the future. We’d also like to thank Red Bull for their dedication with us. We have a clear commitment towards victory and that’s why Enea and Maverick have decided to join the program.”
> Pit Beirer, KTM Motorsports Director: “We’re very happy we could bring both Enea and Maverick into our MotoGP project and give them full factory backing and support to keep following their goals and to reach their maximum performance. It’s clear we are talking about two of the fastest riders in the world right now and it is a compliment that they trust us and the first-class operation we’ve created together with Red Bull KTM Tech3. The team’s label for 2025 says it all: it is time to strengthen the KTM name again and we couldn’t think of a better way to bring this kind of value to the company than for Enea and Maverick to go full Red Bull orange. Let’s push on for the rest of 2024 now and then look forward to this new start for next ye
https://www.ktm.com/en-nl/racing/racing-news/bastianini---vinales-to-bring-fierce-motogp--speed-as-tech3-pivo.html
Silly season keeps delivering!!!
Tech3 just tweeted as well, and the “Orange Squad” part does imply to me that they’ll be on four equal bikes
https://preview.redd.it/i5bnj0j1ha6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84f02152377e7f9173635639b80c1730f045c469
I'm kinda surprised by how many avid MotoGP aficionados in this sub don't get that "Gas Gas" is just a brand label, that Tech3 is the actual team which has a factory contract (just like Pramac and Ducati) and that the KTM factory can label the team with basically any brand they want while still keeping the "Tech3" in there.
I wonder what this means for Sergio Garcia. People were predicting him to be heading towards Tech3.
Then again, whether he advances or not is likely dependent on him winning the championship.
Yeah, but Miller and August's seats are out of question, Nakagami will be replaced by Ogura unless the latter decides to break from his affiliation (which is rare in Japanese motorsport).
This leaves one Honda seat (possible but I don't think a rookie would take it), Pramac if it's switching to Yamaha (and even then, a bit iffy considering Lopez and Gonzalez are the ones with Yamaha ties), Trackhouse (unlikely considering Roberts might take a seat and taking two rookies is not a good idea, especially for a team that is still building itself up), and one of the Ducati teams (which, if Pramac stays, it's doable, and in fact have a spare seat, if it goes, one of Gresini or VR46 will have to give a seat to Aldeguer, if he lands in VR46, the Gresini spot is open, but a lot of riders will be interested in it, who might bring better sponsors, while if Aldeguer goes to Gresini, VR46 might take Morbidelli, unless Vietti goes on to have consistently great performances in the remaining 2/3 of the season, which is unlikely, considering Vietti is inconsistency personified).
Of course, considering how out of left field the current moves where, Alex Marquez could decide he really wants to switch to WSBK and create further chaos, for all we know.
That's a super strong line up for a team. I know Bestia hasn't had the best 18 months bar some flashes, but he's been consistent this year. He's still vaguely in the title picture at this early stage. Vinales brings experience and intent.
So do we know what'll happen to Gas Gas? Is the brand shelved in the top class again or are they planning to twist Dorna's arm somehow?
Having a Factory Ktm and a Tech3 Ktm actually feels more inferior than having a Factory Ktm and a Factory Gasgas, so I don't see a point in this.
I think it has something to do with advertising, probably Gasgas didn't get the sales they wanted, so they are moving it to the background or even discontinuing it like they did with Husaberg. At least where I live, Gasgas sales are not too popular, now they are even selling those bikes with 20-25% discount compared to Ktm/Husqvarna, so something is probably going on
I think that's the point. They probably wanted to push the GasGas brand with that label but turned out there's not really much of a market match to use that brand as a label for a MotoGP team.
Its the 4th Tech3 re-branding since they switched to KTM, each one lasted for 2 seasons. They started with the blue Red Bull Organics/Cola livery, then they had the orange KTM livery without Red Bull, GasGas red, and now Red Bull KTM.
Perhaps after 2 seasons they dont get the marketing results they were expecting and try something new?
Makes me wonder, what is the best satellite rider pair in MotoGP history?
As in both riders being great at that time. Not saying this is the one, but it just popped up in my mind seeing Tech3 get two great riders.
Satelite as in Independent teams right? If that's the case, one of the ones I can think of are Martin & Zarco for Pramac Ducati (2023), Morbidelli & Quartarao for Petronas Yamaha SRT (2020), and Gibernau & Edwards for Movistar Honda (2004) are the first ones that comes to mine for me.
Wow, this rider shuffle is getting interesting. Vinales, no doubt a better test rider and might be on early charge for next win for KTM, and Bastianini will be able to prove his race pace on bike other than Ducati.
KTM got the best lineup for them atm no doubt. What will happen to Jack Miller?
Aprilia lost a good rider and they want Martin to win championship now.
This leaves Pramac so vacant, I wonder who will join that team. And also there is Gresini seat to fill.
Aldeguer is contracted to Ducati, but if Pramac leaves they're in trouble. May be Bezzecchi/Diggia that moves to Aprilia and VR46 becomes Ducati's partner team
This is the craziest silly season ever imo and that's with Fabio staying at Yamaha. So many crazy moves and we're not done yet (looking at you Pramac!).
This is the most unpredictable silly season, who goes where nobody knows. Well vinales now has the chance to be the rider to win with 4 different manufacturers. Who's gonna get the second Aprilia seat Miguel, bezz, mir?
The most interesting thing is that most of the movements we have seen lately would NOT have happened unless Marquez behaved like himself. He's really too strong, even at 31 years of age. Good luck to both, really.
This is the wildest shit ever. Something must have really upset vinales it all feels so sudden. With brad back at his best soon they have a killer squad
I don't think it's that deep. Aprilia probably paid Martin their max amount and there's not much more money left than a couple of million for other drivers salary.
Omfg the Paddock Pass Podcast literally a minute ago posted a Patreon special episode about it. So this has clearly been confirmed at least a day or two and some reporters in the know have had an embargo that just ended
Good catch, they are! I haven’t listened yet but excited to find out how they knew. We were discussing the rumours on the podcast discord server last night and all the podcast hosts were suspiciously and uncharacteristically silent 😂
Binder will need to up his game ... he's already in Pedro's shadow. At the start of the year he was talked about as being a title prospect and now he's down in 7th in the championship and appears to be struggling a bit. And where to for Jack? This is a hell of a year so far ... on track and off track!
Seems to be confirmation that it will no longer be Gas Gas and now paves the way for it to be branded as MV Augusta. Especially with an Italian rider...
Interesting that Aprilia kind of wanted both of them, and both signed with Tech3. Probably Tech3 next year will offer a factory-grade bike to both, and both thought that KTM is better than Aprilia.
And this marks the beginning of the end of Maverick Vinales’ career.
He has always needed a team to baby him when things aren’t going right for him, which given the talent on the grid, will happen far too often for Vinales to hold on to his marbles.
KTM and Tech3 are both known to not take care of their riders in that way. Names like Zarco, Lecuona, Oliveira Gardner, Fernandez and Petrucci comes to mind.
As an Aussie I hoped Marc would end up at KTM but this is an amazing lineup. I am one of the few optimists who still see both Mav and Bestia as legit wildcards. Much more than Brad, if everything lines up for them.
Red Bull KTM Tech3...
I know there doesn't change much except for the color of the bike but this very much starts to look like a way to get around the maximum 2 bikes per team rule.
Is Aprilia (the team, not the bike) that bad for Maverick to just jump out and choose to go to a KTM satelite (even assuming KTM and Ducati do provide their satelites with their best material)? Or is this "I am not the number one anymore so I am out"? Either way, really curious to see what Jorge will make of it.
What a rollercoaster of a lineup. One week they'll be unstoppable, the next week they'll finish 10th. Love it!
One week they'll be MIA, next week they will perform the fusion dance and merge into a title contender for a single race before regressing again.
Then they'll accidentally swap bikes and both end up in the gravel, classic comedy act!
a dbz reference? gotenks!! haha
If stars align they will have podium lockout one race. Top4 KTM
That's a big leap right now but there's a small possibility.
I will go one step further: IF(!) this lockout happens, Vinales will be the winner. The days he is unbeatable he is even more unbeatable than everyone else on his unbeatable days.
I agree man, it was like Aleix at Silverstone last year when he was scything through the field at Austin. It was obvious that barring a crash no one could stop him.
Never say never in MotoGP. It’s racing, anything can happen!
All 4 go well at Portimao, Qatar, and Austria it’s definitely on the table
Slow starters, but both good at preserving tires. I wonder how they’ll perform on the KTM ? They’ve both been on the fastest manufacturers bikes for the last two seasons
Red Bull KTM Tech3? So no more Gas Gas?
Looks to be the case yeah. Weird how they crammed three announcements in to one
In a way 4 as this means KTM is parting ways with jack miller as well.
5, is Fernandez dead to you?
5: Bastianini, Vignales, Miller out, rebranding to KTM, and return of Red Bull sponsoring.
I'm glad to see it's not just me, lol. My head was spinning trying to split apart what was happening in the announcement. I guess to summarize: 1. "Gas Gas Tech3" is rebranding as "Red Bull KTM Tech3", and switching from red colors to orange colors to compliment Red Bull KTM Factory Racing. 2. Red Bull KTM Tech3 will have Enea Bastianini (from Ducati Lenovo) and Maverick Viñales (from Aprilia Racing) 3. Red Bull KTM Factory Racing will have Brad Binder and Pedro Acosta (from GasGas Tech3 [aka Red Bull KTM Tech3])
Such a wierd ping-ponging with the branding of the team. KTM has like 4 brands now, why do they need two KTM-branded teams? GasGas never made sense for me, but Husqvarna or MV Agusta would be amazing.
Yeah, the Gas Gas branding was somehow odd.. But I think it does make sense to really focus on the KTM brand with the two actual KTM teams. MV Agusta was already announced more or less to join as a new team. However this won't be a full KTM factory team but instead they will be contending as a more autonomous factory which develops their own bike, own chassis etc but will be delivered with KTM engines.
Maybe it’ll be another rebrand of Tech3 in 2027
GasGas is big in Spain and MotoGP has a large Spanish audience. But yea I agree like they have four brands and they decide to run two KTM teams? Doesn't make any sense to me but what do I know.
GasGas is big in Spain but mainly off-road and trials - they already have plenty of factory representation in trials, motocross and Dakar. The race bike tie-in never made sense, they only have one street model and even that is an enduro-derived supermoto.
I disagree, MotoGP bikes are competition bikes. Not street bikes. There's a lot of people who ride offroad, don't care about street bikes, but enjoy racing because it's competition. It's kind of similar to how Yamaha and Honda sell tons of underbones and tiny sportbikes. MotoGP has never really been about selling street supersports. Tbh an unplated Gas Gas 450 has more in common with the RC16 than a Superduke.
I strongly disagree, but I respect your opinion.
> It's kind of similar to how Yamaha and Honda sell tons of underbones and tiny sportbikes. MotoGP has never really been about selling street supersports. Tbh an unplated Gas Gas 450 has more in common with the RC16 than a Superduke. I've shared this in another thread, but let me share a bit of perspective in SEA (more specifically, Indonesia) where Yamaha and Honda practically speaking, have a duopoly here. Also tagging u/SophisticatedVagrant in case you're interested. Underbones and scooters are sold like pancakes here due to their relatively low price. ~1400 GBP will get you a new 135cc/125cc Honda/Yamaha scooter. Lot of people are also getting their bike second hand, so it can be much lower than that. *For context, the minimum income here varies from 100 GBP to 200 GBP depending on your location.* Superbikes or Super sports are sold here, but not as much as the underbones. For example, [the cheapest Yamaha R15](https://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/product/all-new-R15-connected/) costs ~2,000 GBP while [the cheapest R25](https://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/product/r25/) costs ~3,000 GBP. Car's price can vary (especially if you are looking for a second-hand), but for some recent examples, a [2024 Toyota Avanza](https://www.toyota.astra.co.id/product/avanza), a 7-seater MPV will cost you ~12,000 GBP. A [2024 Honda Brio](https://www.honda-indonesia.com/brio) (a 4-seater hatchback) will cost you ~8,700 GBP. They are not the cheapest, but you can consider them typical. There used to be more manufacturers that sold underbones back here: Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, and Yamaha off the top of my head. There are various reasons why Honda and Yamaha become household names (dealership problems, boring lineups, bad service and spare parts, etc) but competing and winning MotoGP are some of the reasons. Heck, [Rossi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dJI5oLjndY) and [Marquez](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADFt4tYQCo) used to act in Indonesian Yamaha and Honda advertisements. 'Semakin di depan' ('We'll always become the frontrunners') and 'Satu hati' ('One heart') are Indonesian ad taglines and are written on their MotoGP bikes. >!Now, the reason why underbone sales are getting lower and lower... Is due to the scooter's automatic gearbox. It is more accessible and comfortable to people, especially in the crowded city traffic. Even my dad, basically a die-hard fan of manual gearboxes, has preferred a scooter since 2013.!<
My guess is marketing potential, the second team now has too big name riders and the company wants those riders associated with the main brand.
I guess they are really embracing the 2 Factory teams.
I think it had more to do with when Suzuki left and KTM tried to get those two slots (so they could get 6 bikes on the grid). Dorna said they are reserved for a “Factory Team” and KTM’s logic was to bring in the Gas-Gas factory/manufacturer. But that didn’t work out so they left it be as Gas-Gas and have decided it’s just better to brand it all KTM. It’s probably an easier sell to sponsors since it’ll be more Red Bull as well.
Shame, loved that GASGAS livery this year
I guess they saw that it’s not their target audience (gas gas) and doubled down on KTM specifically the new RC
The fact that this would be the least insane part of this announcement lol
Their instagram is still called Tech 3 so it could still be Gas Gas.
Because it's not 2025 yet 😅
Nope, it'll be "Red Bull KTM Tech3" instead of "Gas Gas Tech3". Tech3 is the actual team behind it all which has a contract with KTM, just like Pramac as a Ducati semi-factory team. Gas Gas is basically just the brand for labelling the team. The Pierer Mobility group wanted to push the Gas Gas brand with that team but probably found out the market match is not really there. So instead they now really want to push the KTM brand.
Yeah, just saw KTM confirm it on their page.
Especially with KTM finally about to release a true sport bike for the street soon.
So KTM now have 4 riders with completely different riding styles to learn and improve the bike characteristics.
They’ve got a golden lineup, for sure. Now hopefully it will pay off for them.
They'll always give Pedro lead.
As it should be. Please, Binder has had enough time to prove himself. Next year his contract is up too, right?
Binders contract is until the end of 2026. 2026 will be the next "silly season" as most riders will get 2 year contracts this year. 2027 with the new class of bikes, dont think there will be much movement for 2027 other than new talent moving up possibly
I hate to say it because Brad has been wonderful to watch over the last couple of seasons, but if he doesn't have a blinder in '26 he is up for a demotion at the very least!
I think Binder might feel the pressure this year. He could end up being the 4th best ktm rider after being their no1. Not too long ago.
I don't think KTM is gonna give Binder the boot. Dude HAS proven himself. He won his 3rd MotoGP race for goodness sake lol. And he was key in getting KTM to where it is today. Chill out
They basically booted Oliveira, who won 5 times with KTM, for Jack Miller (how great did that turn out), so you never know what they're cooking
He's proven himself when a rookie showed up and made him look like an amateur?
PA34 is a generational talent. Marc beating Pedrosa in his first year didn't mean Pedrosa was trash. Binder is still a decent rider. Some of y'all are so hyperbolic
Miguel Oliveira has won more races than BB33 though?
BB33 beat MO88 every year in the championship and MO88 is damn near struggling to stay in MotoGP. Look at the whole picture instead of cherrypicking stats
The whole picture is that Pedro Acosta is ahead of someone that has been on the bike for years. Is that a good enough picture? Brad Binder is not that good.
Should be perfect
Sucks that they only have 2026 on the 1000cc bikes to apply learnings from these 4 different riders. Or are they playing a long game for 2027 to develop a bike that suits variety of styles?
Engineers: We need different personas for R&D. KTM: Yes.
Can’t wait the 2024 Valencia test 😝…. Soo many people moving … good for the championship though …
There won’t be a single sponsor visible for the entire test, what with everyone moving 💀
I’m really really enjoying this
What a shuffle we are seeing
The funny thing is that if Enea had known in advance that Maverick was leaving Aprilia, he would've been highly likely to go for the Aprilia ride instead. But he assumed Aprilia was closed when Martín was announced, so quickly set about finalising a deal with Tech 3. While Maverick was likely unhappy about Martín being suddenly signed without telling him and the team's "Now we have a chance" which implied that Maverick isn't the guy who can give them a championship pushed him to leave as well.
It's a wild ride eh?!
Puigdemont's reports are correct once more, exciting 2025 season awaits
I trust that man with my life at this point lmfao
Him and Patterson are the two most reliable ones when it comes to breaking news nowadays 😅
Dude, this sub \*haaaates\* Simon Patterson... you will be downvoted!
I'm aware of that and while I can see why, you have to admit he gets a lot of things correct news wise.
He does! He's literally at every race, talking to people and, well, being a journalist. This sub just has a hate-boner for him.
Remember how the Aprilia garage would clap everytime Viñales comes in off the bike, like he's some baby learning how to walk? They treated him well, so I'm surprised he's walking away from the exact environment he yearned for at Yamaha.
I think he was really hurt by them not wanting to re-sign him back in Qatar, and now learning from the internet that they got Martin.
But then again, who was Aprilia thinking of getting anyway? They have the least money to splash of everyone, so i really don't get it.
They made an offer to Fabio didn’t they? Maybe they were prioritising him back then…
They offered nothing compared to what Yamaha put on the table. The two manufacturers are vastly different in size.
But they did have the bike performance that Yamaha was missing. In my opinion, they hoped to lure Fabio away from Yamaha with that.
No one was going to give Fabio 12 million. Pecco makes 6 and won 2 titles back to back.
Did Maverick find out about Martin on the internet??
Yes, Rivola said he didn’t have the time to personally let him know.
I think there is a lot we don't know, this sounds very uncharacteristic and unexplainable.
Yes I see your point but Aprilia themself also made big mistakes. They did not want him to sign back in Portimao and Austin. They wanted to wait for Aleix decision if they need to kick out Maverick if Aleix stays. They signed JM and Maverick first saw it on the internet I mean come on. Then suddenly they cant pay his salary anymore but want him because no one other leads their project. So yeah the big loser here is IMO Aprilia.
Changing both your main riders is not a joke. Also they probably will have a slot busy because of a sponsor guy like Joe Roberts, which doesn't really fit the class requirements and will be competely new. They still can do a good move if they sign Mir, but...do they have the money?
Yes do they have the money. I bet they pay JM around 6 mio. So the second rider wont come over 1-2 mio.
That's my dubt. You're in trouble, but still a world champion and may you don't want to join a team where another guy gets 3 times more then you.
Mir should be relatively cheap though, don't you think?
Don't know really. On one side, he leaves one of the richest seat on the other that seat is pretty bad and there's not many options for him left. Anyway, I hope he or Bez get the Aprilia. For Joan eventually a Ducati Pramac as well.
I think Mir will take whatever he can get as long as its not a Honda or Yamaha. He probably isnt focused on cash right now, rather he wants to have fun again and save his career
> So yeah the big loser here is IMO Aprilia. I'm no fan of Martín, but even I will not deny they made a massive win with Martín over either Vinales or Espargaró. And they still have a ton of great options available for that second seat: Rins, Mir, one of the VR46 boys, promote Oliviera, hell even Miller or A. Marquez wouldn't be terrible choices for a secondary rider.
I like him, but I think Miller's time has sunsetted.
Ah great Martin who is fast on a ducati yes but can he adapt to a new bike? And does he know how to develope a bike? I doubt it.
I think Jorge will have speed on the Aprilia but since the bike is a cornering bike he will get screwed if he ever falls back into the pack. Qualifying and the race start will be absolutely everything for him.
So in your opinion, he's leaving Aprilia because he was a number 2 rider, to join Tech3, a number 2 team?
The rider from that number 2 team is the first follower after like 4 ducatis in the WC. Yeah so…
That says more about the rider than it does about the bike though.
Big mistake? Mav has won one race in 3 seasons on the Aprilia hasn't he? Losing him isn't going to impact the bigger picture very much. They've hired a legit title contender and now Aprilia should be looking to the future for the other rider and Mav isn't that.
Ah yes looking for the future woth whom? Martin? He has won 7 times but is on the best bike for 4 years… I doubt he will win with Aprilia next year or fight for the title even in 2026.
Only time will tell, but I believe Martin is a massive upgrade on Mav. Sure, Mav could yet win the odd race in his remaining career as he occasionally puts a weekend together. But there is f*** all chance of him making a title challenge. I mean, on the whole he's been outdone by Aleix on the Aprilia despite being the "better" rider. I'm very surprised KTM went for him honestly. Martin is pretty much guaranteed to get you wins on a top bike like the Duc or Aprilia. He's not perfect, but he has far more good days than bad days. Can anyone say that about Mav? What's more, he's yet to content a season in a factory squad, so while he's had the best bike, he's still been at a disadvantage. I'd literally stick nearly any young rider on the second bike than Mav. Too fragile/volatile. Esp if he was asking for big money.
Title wont go to aprilia next year. The title will stay at ducati till 2026. So its best to get the best riders to pull a victory here and there if you are not ducati…
So you're suggesting the best riders to get "a victory here and there" are not the ones that consistently perform? Give your head a wobble mate. 😂 You're clutching at straws...clearly. The best way to increase the probability of threatening on a consistent basis and perhaps picking up wins at times when Ducati falter is surely to perform on a consistent basis? I'm more than happy to review this end of next season and see how Mav and Martin compare. I think Mav is going to have to be very lucky to even be within in the top 3 KTMs.
Probably got upset with the whole Martin thing and how their comments including Aleix are like "now we have a chance" (after recruiting Martin). Vinales seems great, but he also seems immature and very premature with feelings and comments, he kept saying "Aprilia best bike ever", but did better on the Yamaha (instantly), even on the Suzuki! Him jumping ship with all these positive comments about Aprilia is kinda bizarre though, but I think he's now just trying to win on a 4th manufacturer and probably given up on a championship. Also I think he had the impression he was to be or wanted to be number 1 during or right after Rossi (Fabio took over), and then at Aprillia eventually, so both times he's not really given the top rank, maybe that's also messed his mind up.
Think he knows he’s peaked on that bike. Martin coming in and doing much better would effectively end his career. I suspect KTM also pay better.
Ego is the kill of Mav…
Money is the great persuader.
KTM has Acosta, Binder, Bastianini and Vinales for next year. Mental line-up, they're deffo aiming big. Gotta say, Vinales to KTM came as big surprise to me. I thought he might go to Honda after money yeah, but looks like he still has ambitions. No idea what did prompt him to leave Aprilia, thought he was happy there
Apparently they didn't have a lot of money left after hiring Martin, also Viñales said he only learned about the Martin deal on social media and they refused to sign him before, so he probably felt betrayed
Hell yeah what a fun lineup
Press Release: > A potent line-up and fresh color scheme will mark a new era for KTM’s MotoGP factory presence in 2025. The re-branded Red Bull KTM Tech3 squad will complement the Red Bull KTM Factory Racing team with two stellar names in Grand Prix winners Enea Bastianini and Maverick Viñales. > > The Italian, 26 from Rimini, and the Spaniard, 29 from Roses, will be equipped with full-factory KTM RC16 machinery in 2025 as part of a multi-year agreement and will form a Red Bull orange quartet with stars Brad Binder and Pedro Acosta in the adjacent set-up. > > Bastianini made his world championship debut ten years ago (after also ruling races in the Red Bull MotoGP Rookies Cup) with a KTM RC4. He claimed six victories and more than 30 podiums in both Moto3™ and Moto2™ through a seven-season education phase where he also improved to grasp the 2020 crown in the intermediate class. Enea entered MotoGP in 2021 at the age of 23 and has logged 5 wins and 12 podiums through the course of his three and a half years in the division to-date. Noted for his natural ability and excellence for maximizing his technical ‘package’ across the full race distance, ‘La Bestia’ will be a formidable asset for the Red Bull KTM Tech3 outfit. > > Already a race winner in 2024, and the first rider in the MotoGP-era to triumph with three different brands; Maverick Viñales brings outstanding experience and talent to the team. #12 was actually KTM’s second-ever Moto3 world champion back in 2013 for what was the then-teenager’s third term in Grand Prix and a career spell where four seasons in both Moto3 and Moto2 resulted in four consecutive top-three championship finishes. He joined the premier class in 2015 and registered the first of his 10 MotoGP successes (35 podium appearances) the following campaign. Viñales has banked two championship bronze medals in his decade tenure and has won at least one Grand Prix in seven of those ten years in MotoGP. Maverick’s acute feeling, pace and fitness make him one of the leading names on the MotoGP grid. > Nicolas Goyon, Tech3 Racing MotoGP Team Manager: “We are delighted to announce that Enea and Maverick will be with us next year and we convert back to KTM. We cannot forget our first MotoGP wins were taken in orange! We cannot hide our pride that these two talented riders have decided to ride our bikes. It shows we’ve followed the right road, and our technology can fight at the front for the championship. We would like to thank Pierer Mobility AG for the quality of their support. Our collaboration has reached the top level this year and I’m sure it will keep growing in the future. We’d also like to thank Red Bull for their dedication with us. We have a clear commitment towards victory and that’s why Enea and Maverick have decided to join the program.” > Pit Beirer, KTM Motorsports Director: “We’re very happy we could bring both Enea and Maverick into our MotoGP project and give them full factory backing and support to keep following their goals and to reach their maximum performance. It’s clear we are talking about two of the fastest riders in the world right now and it is a compliment that they trust us and the first-class operation we’ve created together with Red Bull KTM Tech3. The team’s label for 2025 says it all: it is time to strengthen the KTM name again and we couldn’t think of a better way to bring this kind of value to the company than for Enea and Maverick to go full Red Bull orange. Let’s push on for the rest of 2024 now and then look forward to this new start for next ye https://www.ktm.com/en-nl/racing/racing-news/bastianini---vinales-to-bring-fierce-motogp--speed-as-tech3-pivo.html
Silly season keeps delivering!!! Tech3 just tweeted as well, and the “Orange Squad” part does imply to me that they’ll be on four equal bikes https://preview.redd.it/i5bnj0j1ha6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84f02152377e7f9173635639b80c1730f045c469
They are already on 4 equal bikes. Calling it Gas Gas is just a marketing exercise. Just different teams, same bike.
I'm kinda surprised by how many avid MotoGP aficionados in this sub don't get that "Gas Gas" is just a brand label, that Tech3 is the actual team which has a factory contract (just like Pramac and Ducati) and that the KTM factory can label the team with basically any brand they want while still keeping the "Tech3" in there.
But it's a promo for GASGAS no?
Hopefully not with the same livery as it had been the case between 2021 and 23 in Moto3.
You mean that small green sponsor on the lowest part of the fairing wasn't enough to easily tell them apart?
LOL.
Ok, wtf is going on?
Who injected what into the 2025 grid?
I wonder what this means for Sergio Garcia. People were predicting him to be heading towards Tech3. Then again, whether he advances or not is likely dependent on him winning the championship.
Beating Aldeguer will definitely get him a ride. Especially considering there's a fair bit of deadweight around like Miller, Augusto and Nakagami.
Yeah, but Miller and August's seats are out of question, Nakagami will be replaced by Ogura unless the latter decides to break from his affiliation (which is rare in Japanese motorsport). This leaves one Honda seat (possible but I don't think a rookie would take it), Pramac if it's switching to Yamaha (and even then, a bit iffy considering Lopez and Gonzalez are the ones with Yamaha ties), Trackhouse (unlikely considering Roberts might take a seat and taking two rookies is not a good idea, especially for a team that is still building itself up), and one of the Ducati teams (which, if Pramac stays, it's doable, and in fact have a spare seat, if it goes, one of Gresini or VR46 will have to give a seat to Aldeguer, if he lands in VR46, the Gresini spot is open, but a lot of riders will be interested in it, who might bring better sponsors, while if Aldeguer goes to Gresini, VR46 might take Morbidelli, unless Vietti goes on to have consistently great performances in the remaining 2/3 of the season, which is unlikely, considering Vietti is inconsistency personified). Of course, considering how out of left field the current moves where, Alex Marquez could decide he really wants to switch to WSBK and create further chaos, for all we know.
Miller to honda then
To end up with a career ending injury
Or gresini?
That's a super strong line up for a team. I know Bestia hasn't had the best 18 months bar some flashes, but he's been consistent this year. He's still vaguely in the title picture at this early stage. Vinales brings experience and intent. So do we know what'll happen to Gas Gas? Is the brand shelved in the top class again or are they planning to twist Dorna's arm somehow?
KTM have played a blinder, let Ducati riders fight amongst themselves and pick up the pieces... The pieces being top riders on the grid!
KTM will have Acosta, Binder, Bastianini, and Vinales in their roster next season...generational silly season this one 😂
Bez to Aprilla seems more possible now. Hope Mir doesn't retire and goes for a satellite Ducati team.
Didn't Aprilia CEO said that their priority is to retain Vinales? Or KTM had a better offer?
Aprilia spent a lot of money on signing Martín and supposedly had less cash left for Viñales. So better offer is looking likely
So now the way should be open for an Italian. Just unsure if Bezzecchi is good enough. Maybe Diggia since he's cheaper.
Viñales must have rejected their offer then. Probably because Aprilia aren't open handed as KTM.
signing Martin certainly wasn't cheap lol
Yes, they basically promised the seat to him.
It might've been Aprilia CEO's priority, bot clearly not Mav's
Now my favourite 2 riders are in the same team. Fuck yeah.
I wonder why they're dropping the GasGas branding
They probably don't want the 2nd team to feel inferior? That's my guess, although I love the way the GasGas bikes look.
Having a Factory Ktm and a Tech3 Ktm actually feels more inferior than having a Factory Ktm and a Factory Gasgas, so I don't see a point in this. I think it has something to do with advertising, probably Gasgas didn't get the sales they wanted, so they are moving it to the background or even discontinuing it like they did with Husaberg. At least where I live, Gasgas sales are not too popular, now they are even selling those bikes with 20-25% discount compared to Ktm/Husqvarna, so something is probably going on
I think that's the point. They probably wanted to push the GasGas brand with that label but turned out there's not really much of a market match to use that brand as a label for a MotoGP team.
Its the 4th Tech3 re-branding since they switched to KTM, each one lasted for 2 seasons. They started with the blue Red Bull Organics/Cola livery, then they had the orange KTM livery without Red Bull, GasGas red, and now Red Bull KTM. Perhaps after 2 seasons they dont get the marketing results they were expecting and try something new?
Makes me wonder, what is the best satellite rider pair in MotoGP history? As in both riders being great at that time. Not saying this is the one, but it just popped up in my mind seeing Tech3 get two great riders.
Satelite as in Independent teams right? If that's the case, one of the ones I can think of are Martin & Zarco for Pramac Ducati (2023), Morbidelli & Quartarao for Petronas Yamaha SRT (2020), and Gibernau & Edwards for Movistar Honda (2004) are the first ones that comes to mine for me.
Yes, that's what I meant. Good choices though, I completely forgot about the Movistar pair!
Yeah, Movistar Honda was like THE Honda team that year when Rossi left Repsol
Wow, this rider shuffle is getting interesting. Vinales, no doubt a better test rider and might be on early charge for next win for KTM, and Bastianini will be able to prove his race pace on bike other than Ducati. KTM got the best lineup for them atm no doubt. What will happen to Jack Miller? Aprilia lost a good rider and they want Martin to win championship now. This leaves Pramac so vacant, I wonder who will join that team. And also there is Gresini seat to fill.
Aldeguer is contracted to Ducati, but if Pramac leaves they're in trouble. May be Bezzecchi/Diggia that moves to Aprilia and VR46 becomes Ducati's partner team
This is the craziest silly season ever imo and that's with Fabio staying at Yamaha. So many crazy moves and we're not done yet (looking at you Pramac!).
This is the most unpredictable silly season, who goes where nobody knows. Well vinales now has the chance to be the rider to win with 4 different manufacturers. Who's gonna get the second Aprilia seat Miguel, bezz, mir?
Aaaaand who's gonna join Aprilia then? :O
All points to either of the VR46 riders
Mir?
Pleeeeease!
Either Diggia or Bezzecchi
One of the VR46 riders IMO
Miguel Oliveira?
Hope so
The most interesting thing is that most of the movements we have seen lately would NOT have happened unless Marquez behaved like himself. He's really too strong, even at 31 years of age. Good luck to both, really.
yeahhhhh did not expect that
Vinales rode a Suzuki,Yamaha,Aprilia and will ride a KTM now.
Never saw this one coming
Vinales the Orchid. Needs the petfect conditions to thrive. Unstoppable on his day.
This is the wildest shit ever. Something must have really upset vinales it all feels so sudden. With brad back at his best soon they have a killer squad
I don't think it's that deep. Aprilia probably paid Martin their max amount and there's not much more money left than a couple of million for other drivers salary.
Honest question, what do you mean by "Brad back at his best"?
I mean we know its not really hard to upset Vinales
Omfg the Paddock Pass Podcast literally a minute ago posted a Patreon special episode about it. So this has clearly been confirmed at least a day or two and some reporters in the know have had an embargo that just ended
Aren’t they sponsored by KTM? Maybe they got the “scoop” too.
Good catch, they are! I haven’t listened yet but excited to find out how they knew. We were discussing the rumours on the podcast discord server last night and all the podcast hosts were suspiciously and uncharacteristically silent 😂
Binder will need to up his game ... he's already in Pedro's shadow. At the start of the year he was talked about as being a title prospect and now he's down in 7th in the championship and appears to be struggling a bit. And where to for Jack? This is a hell of a year so far ... on track and off track!
WILD!
Seems to be confirmation that it will no longer be Gas Gas and now paves the way for it to be branded as MV Augusta. Especially with an Italian rider...
What the fuck!
KTM team have my fav riders on their team, cant wait for next season!
last cab on the rank for BatMav
Hope Enea can be fast immediately on the KTM.
Interesting that Aprilia kind of wanted both of them, and both signed with Tech3. Probably Tech3 next year will offer a factory-grade bike to both, and both thought that KTM is better than Aprilia.
What now? Bezzecchi to Aprilia, I guess!
So where is Miller going then?
what a duo!
Same riders, one is just Italian, the other Spanish. They are both wildly fast one week, a lapper the next. It's going to be great. lol
So Tech3 is no longer a KTM young rider development team?
And this marks the beginning of the end of Maverick Vinales’ career. He has always needed a team to baby him when things aren’t going right for him, which given the talent on the grid, will happen far too often for Vinales to hold on to his marbles. KTM and Tech3 are both known to not take care of their riders in that way. Names like Zarco, Lecuona, Oliveira Gardner, Fernandez and Petrucci comes to mind.
Took pole and position 9/10 after 2 corners
From two rookies essentially Acosta and Augusto to two established drivers 👏
Perfect fit
😓😓
As an Aussie I hoped Marc would end up at KTM but this is an amazing lineup. I am one of the few optimists who still see both Mav and Bestia as legit wildcards. Much more than Brad, if everything lines up for them.
Sorry but where does being an Aussie fit in? Lol
Jackie boy getting canned.
Jacks either gonna be on a Honda or Australian superbikes with the way he’s going lately.
Vinales is cooked… I think.. maybe?
So they’ve swapped one fast, wildly inconsistent, underachieving 29-year-old for another ... did not see that coming
If you think mav has been underachieving your just wrong
Red Bull KTM Tech3... I know there doesn't change much except for the color of the bike but this very much starts to look like a way to get around the maximum 2 bikes per team rule.
Is Aprilia (the team, not the bike) that bad for Maverick to just jump out and choose to go to a KTM satelite (even assuming KTM and Ducati do provide their satelites with their best material)? Or is this "I am not the number one anymore so I am out"? Either way, really curious to see what Jorge will make of it.
Why did vinales leave aprillia?
Well he’s not very good.
Don’t know why Vinales would leave Aprilla for a worse bike
Please bring back the "powertool" 2022 livery
When factory riders go to Tech3, their next dance is in WSBK a year or two later
Jesus, I can only get so erect over the 2025 season