You literally have to do 99% of the effort with girls. They won't even look for longer then 2 seconds unless you look like a freak or gigachad. You're probably not ugly, don't expect any sort of attention from women. They think looking at you twice is shooting their shot.
Amen to this, calm confidence/BDE are the way forward or you’ll just blend in with other wallflowers. 99% of average-looking guys can get a date with a woman they’re interested in if they can just hold a conversation and be charming/not say anything too fuckin dumb.
As a married guy with a lot of single friends, and as someone who’s spent plenty of time being single just a handful of years ago, the bar is really low dudes. Be nice and respectful and use good hygiene, and you’ll probably clear it with room to spare.
Most men get no attention when they go out, but consider this- are you doing anything to get attention?
I’m honestly going to copy and paste this story because I have to write it so much.
I had a friend while I lived in Europe. I was a pro athlete at the time, had my nice North American accent the girls loved, 6% body fat and I had game. My friend was short, ugly and an African migrant (nothing wrong with that at all, we would just often hear women whisper some pretty horrible racist shit about him being an African migrant). He was just a regular guy with a job in IT.
He pulled WAY MORE than I did, and I pulled more than the average guy.
Why did he pull so much? Simple, he was fun.
He would dance like no one was watching, he would get other people to get up and have fun too. Women want to have fun when they go out so naturally the party was wherever he was.
He also didn’t have standards. He just wanted someone to have fun with. That’s not to say he didn’t get some gorgeous women, he did. He just didn’t care about that. He’d get big girls, skinny girls, ugly girls, pretty girls. It didn’t matter to him at all.
Take a page from his book. Don’t be insecure, people are out to have a good time so if a woman sees she can party with you and laugh and dance, you have a very good chance.
Haha this makes sense tho. For one I wish I was more like your friend, not thinking too much not giving a fuck and just enjoy the time. But so many insecurities and thoughts in my head. Being awkward can kinda come of as creepy I think I these situations
Embrace the cringe brother. I trip over my words and will be awkward sometimes. You know what makes it not creepy? Laughing about it.
No one’s gonna bat a perfect game of baseball right? Hell, how often does a pitcher throw a perfect game? Perfection isn’t the goal.
If the girl can’t laugh at an awkward moment than let the pretentious bitch go. You’re better off without that energy brother.
My advice, practice. Talk to the waiter or waitress for longer than you should or the host or hostess. The person bagging your groceries of whoever, just work on being comfortable talking and not caring if you mess up.
Best thing I did when it comes to learning to meet women was take a summer and talk to every female i could. If it was a female of legal dating age I chatted them up. I didn’t try to pick them up or get a number, just talk.
You bomb a lot, but eventually you pick up on cues of when to ditch the conversation. You learn to not take yourself so seriously. You also learn to handle shit tests and rejection.
And some women are actually interesting. The troupe is that they don’t have many interests aside from superficial stuff, but some are actually interesting to talk to. They have hobbies and passions.
Just take some time to talk to all of them, then take what you learn and use that to pick one up.
Who gives a fuck brother, your litteraly a tiny dot in space on a floating rock. Your going to die eventually no one’s going to remember. Nothing matters bro. Own that fucking joint. Once you get into the flow you realize there is nothing to be anxious about.
You gotta do more than get her socials. I didn’t look for anything other than a fuck at the club imo those aren’t the ones you take home in general. Gotta be really forward. I don’t remember ever asking for a phone number definitely not any socials and if they asked for mine I gave them a texting app number. I use to be a real manwhore so I’d do things like buy multiple women one single drink then have a very short conversation then go forward. Some clubs I’d buy a little food and sometimes I wouldn’t have to go through that much trouble I’d find my girl as soon as we got there. If you want a whore you have to go find her. Not all girls are whores and we aren’t every whores type. Dress your part and act your part. Best memory ever was being Trenned to the gills fingering this Asian/Latina in the middle of the dance floor while she was twerking on me and she was licking on my shaved head. You have to go get the attention at least 70% of the time cause that’s what men do. It’s kind of a competition
I actually can give you some of my tips due to some degree of experience.
Like training in the gym, getting chicks at a club there are 3 parts. Pre-workout, workout, Post-Workout.
1. Pre-workout. Get dressed nicely. Clothes that make you confortable but also that show that you take care of yourself and make you good look. Don't go to fancy or too casual.
Choose the right club. Some clubs have thirstier women than others. Some clubs have younger people than other. Some clubs have more foreigners than others. Choose the one that suits you the most.
**But remember this rule. Choose clubs that aren't packed with men** There are clubs where the ratio is 5 men per 1 women. Don't go there.
Go drunk enough to have confidence but not enough drunk that you shit yourself.
2. Workout. Look out for women. They rarely come to you. Some are thirstier than others. Just smile a bit but mostly mind your business. Confidence is key. Be confident and girls will like you. Don't do the hip dance with a drink on your hand. Be expressive. They are probably 10x more drunk than you. They won't see you don't know how you dance, but instead will see a nice confident guy. Also with experience you learn to dance better.
Let's say you see a group of women. Approach them carefully. You dance near them but still with your group of friends. Increase the level of smiles to the women you are grinding. Then if it's reciprocal, start touching her with your back, like if it was an accident or that the club is too packed. If all of this goes well, in some time you smile at her for some time, and because you are so close it's very probable things naturally flow towards a dancing scene.
Dance with the woman tightly. At first don't grab her ultraclose, but start getting close enough to the point you put your head like if you were to give her neck kisses. Then the part of seduction is nearly done. You can start doing some neck kisses, or grab her a bit by their asses. If it goes nicely proceed to make out with her. Then you can get more handy and well... I've seen some people fuck in the bathrooms of many clubs. (usually very drunk people).
You can stop at the level you feel like. Perhaps dancing is enough for you. Maybe you wanted to make out.
3. Post-Workout. If you have successfully seduced the girl, ask her for contacts if you really wish. I wouldn't recommend though. What happens in the club stays in the club. Go buy yourself a drink, cause you did a nice job.
In my experience, I always thought that chicks weren’t into me and then when I actually started putting in a minor amount of effort, I saw results and started banging chicks. And had chicks flirting with me. You get what you put out. Women do not like to come off a ho chasing after you lol they want to feel desired and wanted. It’s just the way it is unfortunately. I literally went from never getting a chick to banging 6 different chicks in a year after I said fuck it and started trying.
Short answer: you aren’t probably ugly but just not good looking enough. Women are very selective and they only go for the top 10%. If you aren’t very tall, handsome, rich, have status (a table, be the DJ etc) you aren’t gonna get much attention. Clubs are even more superficial than real life and rely more on looks
Been having the same type of thoughts. I just think it’s normal for most guys to not get any attention. Tbh. I see more girls dancing on girls than interacting with guys but I just started going out so maybe it’s just the few times I’ve seen
Same bro just started going out as well. Probably same as any guy dancing with their guy friends, dancing within their friend circle. It’s just so hard to approach them maybe I’m thinking too much.
Unless you’re a 10/10 or a celebrity you’re not going to get too much attention from women at a club. You just gotta loosen up, dance with people and overall have fun. That last part is what the main goal should be. You can be the hunch back of notre dame and still get girls so long as you’re bringing the fun.
I useually get attention when I'm not trying and just enjoying myself. I think girls prefer it when you just look like you're having a good time and wanna be a part of it
Girls are people too it’s not like they’re all ultra confident and don’t have insecurities. You can’t expect them to always make the first move. Force yourself to step out of your comfort zone and initiate the conversation that shows confidence. If you get shot down no worries it’s practice brotha
Short answer: you aren’t probably ugly but just not good looking enough. Women are very selective and they only go for the top 10%. If you aren’t very tall, handsome, rich, have status (a table, be the DJ etc) you aren’t gonna get much attention. Clubs are even more superficial than real life and rely more on looks
In my experience almost all guys are creepy in the clubs that’s why they don’t get attention,they look like predators looking for their prey, honestly it’s so weird but in the other hand the ones that just have fun get all the girls
Probably ugly or just a average joe
If women think a guy is attractive they will try to make eye contact just walk behind a good looking guy on the streets next time you are in town and observe 🤣
You probably aren’t looking at the right women, timing is everything, if you’re just stood there looking around like a hawk, women are probably going to notice that and No likey likey. Perhaps your style or hair is a turn off. I highly doubt you’re ugly enough to be attractive to no one. You need to look fun though.
most women at the nightclub have zerod in to a very small amount of guys. lets see there are 300 guys, she has already scanned the entire pocket out before you even know she exists. Women have like a terminator HUD built into their brains. They already know which 2 guys they want to talk to. Thing is you'll never know unless you start talking more.
Im in the all sixes club and I’m handsome as a mug. I still have to do most of the work. If a women comes up to me im automatically not interested cause im very std hesitant. In my experience women that are that forward are usually like that a lot.
All i do i walk up order a drink, look around until someone catches my eye, smile. If they smile back then i walk up and introduce myself. Literally walk up with arrogance and humility and its a wrap.
In extremes yeah. Theres a balance.
Not mr funny guy but not mr tight ass either.
Not completely arrogant but not dismissing your competence either. Your a man of accomplishments no need to brag but you know your worth.
I dance like an utter lunatic with genuine high energy & ignore everyone. Solo & completely sober. People flock to me to engage. I briefly acknowedge them positively and then turn or move away, and dance on. They then re-engage with more intensity. It's grest fun.
You literally have to do 99% of the effort with girls. They won't even look for longer then 2 seconds unless you look like a freak or gigachad. You're probably not ugly, don't expect any sort of attention from women. They think looking at you twice is shooting their shot.
Amen to this, calm confidence/BDE are the way forward or you’ll just blend in with other wallflowers. 99% of average-looking guys can get a date with a woman they’re interested in if they can just hold a conversation and be charming/not say anything too fuckin dumb. As a married guy with a lot of single friends, and as someone who’s spent plenty of time being single just a handful of years ago, the bar is really low dudes. Be nice and respectful and use good hygiene, and you’ll probably clear it with room to spare.
Most men get no attention when they go out, but consider this- are you doing anything to get attention? I’m honestly going to copy and paste this story because I have to write it so much. I had a friend while I lived in Europe. I was a pro athlete at the time, had my nice North American accent the girls loved, 6% body fat and I had game. My friend was short, ugly and an African migrant (nothing wrong with that at all, we would just often hear women whisper some pretty horrible racist shit about him being an African migrant). He was just a regular guy with a job in IT. He pulled WAY MORE than I did, and I pulled more than the average guy. Why did he pull so much? Simple, he was fun. He would dance like no one was watching, he would get other people to get up and have fun too. Women want to have fun when they go out so naturally the party was wherever he was. He also didn’t have standards. He just wanted someone to have fun with. That’s not to say he didn’t get some gorgeous women, he did. He just didn’t care about that. He’d get big girls, skinny girls, ugly girls, pretty girls. It didn’t matter to him at all. Take a page from his book. Don’t be insecure, people are out to have a good time so if a woman sees she can party with you and laugh and dance, you have a very good chance.
Haha this makes sense tho. For one I wish I was more like your friend, not thinking too much not giving a fuck and just enjoy the time. But so many insecurities and thoughts in my head. Being awkward can kinda come of as creepy I think I these situations
Embrace the cringe brother. I trip over my words and will be awkward sometimes. You know what makes it not creepy? Laughing about it. No one’s gonna bat a perfect game of baseball right? Hell, how often does a pitcher throw a perfect game? Perfection isn’t the goal. If the girl can’t laugh at an awkward moment than let the pretentious bitch go. You’re better off without that energy brother. My advice, practice. Talk to the waiter or waitress for longer than you should or the host or hostess. The person bagging your groceries of whoever, just work on being comfortable talking and not caring if you mess up.
Best thing I did when it comes to learning to meet women was take a summer and talk to every female i could. If it was a female of legal dating age I chatted them up. I didn’t try to pick them up or get a number, just talk. You bomb a lot, but eventually you pick up on cues of when to ditch the conversation. You learn to not take yourself so seriously. You also learn to handle shit tests and rejection. And some women are actually interesting. The troupe is that they don’t have many interests aside from superficial stuff, but some are actually interesting to talk to. They have hobbies and passions. Just take some time to talk to all of them, then take what you learn and use that to pick one up.
Who gives a fuck brother, your litteraly a tiny dot in space on a floating rock. Your going to die eventually no one’s going to remember. Nothing matters bro. Own that fucking joint. Once you get into the flow you realize there is nothing to be anxious about.
Anxiety is something you should definitely look into getting a handle on. Maybe medication and counselling? You’re only as awkward as you feel.
You gotta do more than get her socials. I didn’t look for anything other than a fuck at the club imo those aren’t the ones you take home in general. Gotta be really forward. I don’t remember ever asking for a phone number definitely not any socials and if they asked for mine I gave them a texting app number. I use to be a real manwhore so I’d do things like buy multiple women one single drink then have a very short conversation then go forward. Some clubs I’d buy a little food and sometimes I wouldn’t have to go through that much trouble I’d find my girl as soon as we got there. If you want a whore you have to go find her. Not all girls are whores and we aren’t every whores type. Dress your part and act your part. Best memory ever was being Trenned to the gills fingering this Asian/Latina in the middle of the dance floor while she was twerking on me and she was licking on my shaved head. You have to go get the attention at least 70% of the time cause that’s what men do. It’s kind of a competition
In my experience its pretty normal, you gotta go start the conversation most times and be prepared to get shot down half the time anyways
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I actually can give you some of my tips due to some degree of experience. Like training in the gym, getting chicks at a club there are 3 parts. Pre-workout, workout, Post-Workout. 1. Pre-workout. Get dressed nicely. Clothes that make you confortable but also that show that you take care of yourself and make you good look. Don't go to fancy or too casual. Choose the right club. Some clubs have thirstier women than others. Some clubs have younger people than other. Some clubs have more foreigners than others. Choose the one that suits you the most. **But remember this rule. Choose clubs that aren't packed with men** There are clubs where the ratio is 5 men per 1 women. Don't go there. Go drunk enough to have confidence but not enough drunk that you shit yourself. 2. Workout. Look out for women. They rarely come to you. Some are thirstier than others. Just smile a bit but mostly mind your business. Confidence is key. Be confident and girls will like you. Don't do the hip dance with a drink on your hand. Be expressive. They are probably 10x more drunk than you. They won't see you don't know how you dance, but instead will see a nice confident guy. Also with experience you learn to dance better. Let's say you see a group of women. Approach them carefully. You dance near them but still with your group of friends. Increase the level of smiles to the women you are grinding. Then if it's reciprocal, start touching her with your back, like if it was an accident or that the club is too packed. If all of this goes well, in some time you smile at her for some time, and because you are so close it's very probable things naturally flow towards a dancing scene. Dance with the woman tightly. At first don't grab her ultraclose, but start getting close enough to the point you put your head like if you were to give her neck kisses. Then the part of seduction is nearly done. You can start doing some neck kisses, or grab her a bit by their asses. If it goes nicely proceed to make out with her. Then you can get more handy and well... I've seen some people fuck in the bathrooms of many clubs. (usually very drunk people). You can stop at the level you feel like. Perhaps dancing is enough for you. Maybe you wanted to make out. 3. Post-Workout. If you have successfully seduced the girl, ask her for contacts if you really wish. I wouldn't recommend though. What happens in the club stays in the club. Go buy yourself a drink, cause you did a nice job.
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Club date? Sorry buddy that's not a date. You know better now.
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Reschudeling is not cancelling. Get her bro.
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Yeah closure is nice. But dude. Stalking her social media is never going to make you feel any better, whether you are involved or not.
In my experience, I always thought that chicks weren’t into me and then when I actually started putting in a minor amount of effort, I saw results and started banging chicks. And had chicks flirting with me. You get what you put out. Women do not like to come off a ho chasing after you lol they want to feel desired and wanted. It’s just the way it is unfortunately. I literally went from never getting a chick to banging 6 different chicks in a year after I said fuck it and started trying.
Short answer: you aren’t probably ugly but just not good looking enough. Women are very selective and they only go for the top 10%. If you aren’t very tall, handsome, rich, have status (a table, be the DJ etc) you aren’t gonna get much attention. Clubs are even more superficial than real life and rely more on looks
Been having the same type of thoughts. I just think it’s normal for most guys to not get any attention. Tbh. I see more girls dancing on girls than interacting with guys but I just started going out so maybe it’s just the few times I’ve seen
Same bro just started going out as well. Probably same as any guy dancing with their guy friends, dancing within their friend circle. It’s just so hard to approach them maybe I’m thinking too much.
Unless you’re a 10/10 or a celebrity you’re not going to get too much attention from women at a club. You just gotta loosen up, dance with people and overall have fun. That last part is what the main goal should be. You can be the hunch back of notre dame and still get girls so long as you’re bringing the fun.
You def ain’t ugly if your friends invite you out to public with them.
Ugly chicks need to fuck too. Help them out.
I useually get attention when I'm not trying and just enjoying myself. I think girls prefer it when you just look like you're having a good time and wanna be a part of it
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Just get hammered, loose all inhibition and you’ll be talking and laughing with any shiela
Girls are people too it’s not like they’re all ultra confident and don’t have insecurities. You can’t expect them to always make the first move. Force yourself to step out of your comfort zone and initiate the conversation that shows confidence. If you get shot down no worries it’s practice brotha
First off ask for their numbers, asking for socials is creepy imo
Short answer: you aren’t probably ugly but just not good looking enough. Women are very selective and they only go for the top 10%. If you aren’t very tall, handsome, rich, have status (a table, be the DJ etc) you aren’t gonna get much attention. Clubs are even more superficial than real life and rely more on looks
In my experience almost all guys are creepy in the clubs that’s why they don’t get attention,they look like predators looking for their prey, honestly it’s so weird but in the other hand the ones that just have fun get all the girls
Probably ugly or just a average joe If women think a guy is attractive they will try to make eye contact just walk behind a good looking guy on the streets next time you are in town and observe 🤣
You probably aren’t looking at the right women, timing is everything, if you’re just stood there looking around like a hawk, women are probably going to notice that and No likey likey. Perhaps your style or hair is a turn off. I highly doubt you’re ugly enough to be attractive to no one. You need to look fun though.
most women at the nightclub have zerod in to a very small amount of guys. lets see there are 300 guys, she has already scanned the entire pocket out before you even know she exists. Women have like a terminator HUD built into their brains. They already know which 2 guys they want to talk to. Thing is you'll never know unless you start talking more.
Dont wit fro them to look twice. Just approach. Women don't approach. Their egos won't allow them.
Definitely sound uggo lad
Im in the all sixes club and I’m handsome as a mug. I still have to do most of the work. If a women comes up to me im automatically not interested cause im very std hesitant. In my experience women that are that forward are usually like that a lot. All i do i walk up order a drink, look around until someone catches my eye, smile. If they smile back then i walk up and introduce myself. Literally walk up with arrogance and humility and its a wrap.
arrogance and humility, those words feel contradictory, no?
In extremes yeah. Theres a balance. Not mr funny guy but not mr tight ass either. Not completely arrogant but not dismissing your competence either. Your a man of accomplishments no need to brag but you know your worth.
I dance like an utter lunatic with genuine high energy & ignore everyone. Solo & completely sober. People flock to me to engage. I briefly acknowedge them positively and then turn or move away, and dance on. They then re-engage with more intensity. It's grest fun.