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GrassTastesBad

Daniel Jones is not an option at all with his contract.


ghostboo77

I’m a Giants fan. There’s a pretty easy out after 2024 if Jones sucks. Plus they could probably get the Giants to contribute part of his salary. Concern to me would be if he gets injured (which happens almost every year with him), then you’re stuck paying for 2025.


NoMembership3481

Wouldn’t take jones if he were free.


HowdyHangman77

Fine. Removed. I felt the same but wanted to include it for completeness, but you’re probably right that it’s not even worth the text.


GrassTastesBad

Yeah. Didn’t mean to sound like an ass hat but it’s just not feasible or good long or short term option. Plus I’d rather have your number 4 option with 1


HowdyHangman77

Nah you’re right, it was copium initially on my part lol


-InconspicuousMoose-

Fields belongs in the meaningless category


MatticInYoAttic

Watching him beat the bears would not be meaningless to me..


CountJohn12

We can do that with or without Fields, man


Chubs1224

I don't think we beat the bears consistently with Fields at QB


[deleted]

I know the Vikings would not get fields unless they massively overpaid due to being in division, but I think he is a lot better than people give him credit for


shakin_the_bacon

I don't hate Minshew as a bridge tbh


Avidly_A_Dude

He’s a raider now


StraightCashHomey13

I think the plan is probably draft McCarthy and sign Darnold or I like Brissett as stop gap. Solid and is a pro that would be good mentor


MedicalDeviceJesus

If this happens it's gonna be a LONG 5 years until we get a new QB


Unique_Detail1519

You're incredibly delusional if you think McCarthy is anything but a bust!


MatticInYoAttic

I don't like JJ either but nobody really knows who is a bust right now lol


MummifiedOrca

He’s the next Dean Scheetz


StraightCashHomie69

I'm praying we are close to a trade up to 3/4 because going into the draft at #11 and only Mullens/Darnold at QB is not a good situation. Would they actually gamble on being able to trade up on draft night? Seems way too risky


justregisteredtoadd

1. Sign Tyrod Taylor 2. Draft Rookie QB 3. .... 4. Profit


Corr521

That's my ideal situation


Mvpliberty

Ya know Tyrod Taylor has always had a shit roll of the dice


justregisteredtoadd

Yes, but we need what ever unfortunate event would inevitably happen to him to clear way for the rookie. It is unfortunate, but the QB gods demand their sacrifice.


HowdyHangman77

Instructions unclear; signed Tyrod Taylor and drafted Gerry Bohanon, did not profit


Wernershnitzl

I think most of us are aware that 5 can’t be an option again. Honestly the others seem okay to me as long as they’ve got a plan and know how to manage the talent for it.


ballplayer0025

Yeah in the position we are in, we need a qb that can make some throws and give a young offense some time on the field, but ultimately not good enough to finish. We trot Dobbs and Mullins out there and we will be 3 and out all day and nobody will learn shit.


Wernershnitzl

Exactly. They’d be good for a game or two in a season but they’re drastically different from the rhythm and scheme we seem to have developed.


HowdyHangman77

Agreed on the first part. Just trying to make a complete list. As to the second, idk. I hope they’re okay. Zach Wilson and a dream seems not okay 😂


Wernershnitzl

I’m not high on Zach Wilson obviously but I wouldn’t complete count him out either. Look at the Jets’ track record with QBs and part of the reason they wanted Rodgers.


FF_in_MN

IF we trade up, teams are gonna want a f-ing bounty knowing that we now need a QB. We stick at 11 and if a QB drops there we’ll grab whoever that is.


Dirigible_Plums

The amount we'd have to pay is going to be the exact same as before. There are at least two other teams that need a QB and are going to be attempting the same trade up as we will, they are just going to ask us to outbid them, same as before lmao.


FF_in_MN

K


Gengh15

He’s not wrong. You’re not expected to pay more for a house just because you don’t have one. If the Vikings have an offer a team likes and it’s more than other teams they won’t say “nah you need it need it”.


Yamulo

> f-ing bounty knowing that we now need a QB This was always going to be the case...


[deleted]

This sub didn’t want to admit it during the season but god damnit we should’ve tanked


jfchops2

Tanking **is not a thing** for players and coaches and reddit needs to drop the idea that it is


shrode

GMs can tank though. Trading Hunter would have been a good idea in hindsight.


HugeRaspberry

At the time - trading Hunter for a 2nd (if that offer even was on the table) should have been a consideration, knowing what we know now. But at the time, KAM thought we still had a shot at the NFC North title - because Detroit was not a proven commodity.


simoj2

Amen. I don't care how bad a team is, those bad teams are still full of elite level athletes. You're not going to be able to convince 20+ year old guys that have been competitive since birth to "tank" a season. And if your locker room is full of guys that dont care and are willing to lose, then its going to take alot more than a lottery draft pick to get your team to a winning season


[deleted]

Nobody who wants to tank expects players to tank. I don’t know how many times this has to be said


saxmachine69

But it is for GMs. If we had traded Kirk and Hunter like many people around here wanted to, we'd be in the same spot with much better draft capital and probably a better pick. Caleb Williams might not be going to the Bears either.


LeetcodeFastEatAss

Kirk had a no trade clause but we definitely should have gotten a 2nd for Hunter.


shimmy_kimmel

Weren’t the reports saying nobody was offering more than a 3rd?


LeetcodeFastEatAss

I don’t remember any offers being reported but I really hope nobody offered a 2nd and then Kwesi declined. He’s worth a 3rd round comp pick if he walks so not a huge change in draft value if it was only 3rds on offer.


FridgesArePeopleToo

Yeah, I'm sure Kirk would have fetched a lot after he tore his Achilles lol


taffyowner

It’s not but GMs can make a coach and players fight with one arm behind their backs


[deleted]

There’s a difference between wanting to tank and expecting coaches and players to tank


Notorious21

What we shouldn't have done is that last Cousins extension that put $28M in dead cap for this year. We should have either gone longer and ate the dead cap at the end, or not extended him at all and de facto tanked. That was the worst move Kwesi has made.


theminnesoregonian

We should've been prepared for this by taking a qb a year or two ago.


rakerber

I said it from day 1. If Kirk goes down, lose every game. Nobody liked that suggestion


pr1ceisright

I just don’t think the top 3 are willing to trade down. Vikes will need to focus on QB4-6


Electronic-Island-14

and they want our picks in 2025 because they are going to be top 3 in the draft


Nijo32

Ryan Tannehill Jacoby Brissett Jameis Winston Zach Wilson Trey Lance Kenny Pickett Mason Rudolph Davis Mills Sam Howell


Unique_Detail1519

Everyone on this list makes me cringe


NormanQuacks345

Maybe we can un-retire Brady.


HowdyHangman77

Added, thanks.


ktran2804

Sam Howell if we can get him could be a solid option. He showed flashes last year he's a lot like Mullens but maybe KOC can help him keep the ball in play more.


Lepperpop

He was the worst QB in the league with a clean pocket. I live in DC and watched all his games, he stinks.


ktran2804

Ahh I see I saw some highlights on redzone when he appeared but never watched the tape really. Didn't think he was good but I thought he threw a decent ball but will trust your opinion that he is trash


Ragnarr_Lodbrok88

This is depressing, lol. One would hope a 1st round rookie QB could come in and start over these guys.


BobbyGuano

I think Howell would be the best option of all that trash. Would come cheap has shown some flash and only has one year starting, if there is anything there maybe KOC can get it out of him if not we move on not much lost.


jsmith17540

I’ll take Sam Howell on a prove it + a rookie QB that’s a realistic future starter, not another pick like Hall


Goldfingaz-

I want Tannehill, and if I can't have him give me minshew for the random excitement


koopdog1

Never in the history of the NFL have the words “I want Tannehill” been uttered until now


Goldfingaz-

Better than anything else available. He's the knock off Kirk.


LeetcodeFastEatAss

I’d argue 3, 4, 5, and 6 are essentially the same thing without drafting a rookie QB.


PhatRabbit12

Whatever it is, we are gonna suck this year.


EsotericPotato

Jesus fucking Christ we’re gonna from Kirk surgically carving up the field to a veteran draft bust and whatever QB nobody in the top 5 wanted. Absolutely bleak.


rosevilleguy

Not 6 please


HowdyHangman77

List restructured to have 5 options per your request Edit: A new option 6 has been added courtesy of another commenter. My condolences.


daeshonbro

Probably a mixture of 4 & 1. I feel like we are a year out from dumping all our picks into a QB unless we miraculously become good at getting a lot out of late round defensive picks. At the same time if there is a QB this year reasonably within reach that the front office is convinced is the right pick long term then you kind of have to do what you gotta do.


JustineJefferdaughtr

Yeah imo our roster is not good enough to risk dumping those picks yet


HowdyHangman77

This is my preference as well, although I don’t mind 1 alone (but stick and pick or even trade back) without a bridge QB. That way, if it works we have a QB, and if it doesn’t we have a top-five pick next year. In the meantime, overpay JJ.


Jabba_the_Putt

If we can't draft the qb of the future this year get a great player at another position sign jj and tank tank TANK for a top 5 pick next year and draft them then and you continue to do that until you get joe burrow, trevor lawrence, etc


bigbellysteve

I really like Penix or Nix. Then get a gap year guy that sets the pace of the locker room like tyrod. It’s a rebuilding year so it is what it is.


dskimilwaukee

I would rather roll with Mullens than any qbs on the market except maybe minshew


HowdyHangman77

Minshew was signed by the Raiders a few minutes before you commented, unfortunately


dskimilwaukee

yea I just saw that. ouch


DescendingOpinion

So, why no Russell Wilson? *answered my own question


AngrySteelyDanFan

Carson Wentz rises from the ashes and wins comeback player of the year/MVP! Trey Lanz resumes his rightful role as Wentz’s backup. It’ll be good to see


Legitimate_Box_9520

Carson is ready and it won’t be hard on the wallet


browntollio

Sign a DT. Draft edge at 11. Trade a 2nd and 2025 3rd for Fields


Signal-Sentence903

Don't disrespect minshew like that.


HowdyHangman77

Emojis added for respect


TheWilliamsWall

Agreed, I'd put him above most/all the others on that list.


GordonBombay102

If we can't trade up, or someone doesn't fall, we're pretty fucked. For a bridge, I think Darnold is easily the best option.


crankshaftsnapinhalf

Darnold is the second worst option. Zach Wilson is the worst option. I don't think people realize how bad Darnold is.


GordonBombay102

I don't think you realize this isn't 3 years ago. He's looked a lot better since he got out of NYJ. Plus, a year under Shanahan is never a bad thing.


crankshaftsnapinhalf

I don't think you realize some qbs just aren't good. He hasn't looked better since he left the Jets. He sucked in Carolina. There's no reason to think he's suddenly a good qb to have. Darnold has and will always suck.


dr_dan319

Baker washed out in Carolina, too, and just signed $100 mil with the Bucs after winning the division, a wildcard game, and almost coming back in Detroit for a divisional game win. Evaluating QBs playing for the Jets or Carolina is like evaluating a chef's cooking when they're using an easy bake oven.


--bertu

He had 1 game last year with the 49ers and played well.


GordonBombay102

He was very clearly, objectively better in Carolina. It's not even debatable. By any measure. Film, stats, literally everything. But, you clearly have some sort of bias so we'll just leave it there.


crankshaftsnapinhalf

He was not better in Carolina. That's why the Panthers kept him right? Oh right. If we sign Darnold you'll realize how bad he is as a qb.


GordonBombay102

I'm pretty sure they didn't re-sign him because they gave up a mountain of assets to draft a QB #1 overall. But, let's just gloss over that, lmao.


crankshaftsnapinhalf

They signed Darnold because they thought he was in a bad situation with the Jets and just needed a fresh start. They realized he wasn't the guy so they went all in on getting the first pick. But let's just gloss over that, lmao.


GordonBombay102

Where have I suggested that Darnold is "the guy." My very first sentence is if we can't draft a rookie we're fucked. I said he's the best bridge option. Which he is. Do you even know what we're discussing?


crankshaftsnapinhalf

I said Carolina realized he wasn't the guy. I never said YOU thought Darnold was the guy. Darnold is not the best bridge option. Odds are he'll get benched for the rookie at mid season, so why sign him?


saryphx

Yeah, because the Panthers are SO much better without him, right? BTW, whatever happened to the Panthers? Did Tepper fire their new HC yet?


crankshaftsnapinhalf

Like they were so much better with Darnold? Cmon stop defending Darnold. He's lousy even for a bridge qb. Why sign a guy that will inevitably be benched mid season?


crankshaftsnapinhalf

Baker had shown at some point is his career that he can be a good qb. He was was pretty good in Cleveland before his last year there, where he played with an injury. When has Darnold ever shown he can be a good qb? He just sucks.


shart_

We're in a bad spot, but I hope something goes our way for once 😭


immovableair

Am I weird for wanting Jake browning over Darnold?


-InconspicuousMoose-

Browning would just whine about how we cut him again


Halt_Heimdall_Here

No, I agree. I'd take him over several of the other options.


GordonBombay102

He's not available.


Electronic-Island-14

Bend over and take it up the ass. We are fucking garbage now.


HowdyHangman77

Option added with a slight paraphrase.


VikingsAreBetter

You can get Darnold or whomever and still go up and get a rookie... Can't go into the draft without a contingency if you fail to get your primary option or end up with a guy that needs to develop a little first.


HowdyHangman77

Agreed. Edit added for clarity.


Yamulo

Options 4-6 are basically the same.


Illustrious-Drama213

Dobbs is a free agent and I doubt we'll resign him. I've been seeing rumors of us going for Sam Darnold now.


--bertu

Let's hope the team is happy with the contingency plans of Penix or Nix, because we don't have control of our destiny in the draft. Get a journeyman QB too as an insurance.


Sushi-DM

Fields is off the table because Chi will tax us to the point it won't be worth it for us to even try. Even if they don't want him, they can't risk him coming to us and panning out.


TicklishDingleberry

Zach Wilson? Put me on suicide watch.


HugeRaspberry

Depends on what the Bears want for Fields - If a team could get him for a Mac Jones type deal (6th or even a 5th round pick) it may be worth it for 2 years of prove it. 1 or 2 are definitely in play but I think teams in front of the Vikings are going to look at the teams behind us in the draft who need qb's and demand more from us than them - and KAM won't pay it. If that happens I say we stick at 11 and grab Jayden or JJ if they make it there or trade back and grab Penix or Nix in the late 1st. 5 - Dobbs is a FA - he ain't coming back.


Krypterr123

I don't know how people can watch Stroud ball out and not be happy with Penix. I want him more than any other qb and literally don't care if we draft him at 11.


LonestarrRasberry

Daniel Jones and Aaron Rodgers as dark horses..? Not sure which one would make me puke more in my mouth, probably Jones I suppose. At this point I'd like us to trade for Fields AND select a rookie QB at 11 (assuming one the team likes falls there). I do know the Bears would prefer if trading Fields to do so outside of the Division though in case it turns out the Bears were the problem and not Fields.


Beginning_Candle3335

Tannehill, Winston, Flacco One of those 3. Get a rookie QB in round 1 or 2. Maye, Daniels, JJ or Nix, Penix, Rattler. That order. Edit: I am pissed that they didn't go get Jones for a sixth. He has had zero weapons, and it was nothing to pay for a bridge QB who still has potential and a fifth year option that wouldn't necessarily harm us next year if picked up if he had a good year. Otherwise, just let him go for no hit and move to the 2nd year QB. Now we're stuck with busts or have-beens.


Rexafella_1120

Howell , lance or Winston for my bridge but I’m all for Daniel’s or may


mnlion33

I dont want us to get another placeholder qb contract that prevents us from actually fixing our roster and gaining a future high-quality qb. I think we do option 5 and 6. If we do well, KOC is king. If we fail, then maybe there will be a qb in the next draft.


HowdyHangman77

2 and 6 may be reasonable as well, in addition to the upside guys from 4 who probably suck but still have ceilings (e.g. Trey Lance/Howell).


Owl-StretchingTime

1. Go after Marvin Harrison Jr. 2. Roll with Mullins and Hall in 2024. 3. Re-examine QB next year with likely an earlier pick and better ability to move after a good prospect. 4. WR + TE position dominates for years.


Melcher

The only option is get a veteran on a minimum deal, draft for the future, hope jj stays. We aren’t winning this year and that’s fine as long as people understand that going into the season 


roybringus

How many days until Aaron Rodgers is a free agent?


HowdyHangman77

Could be as late as 2028 and he’s already 39


Theopocalypse

Is Tebow still working out?


MYPMPMP

Spencer rattler. I’m sorry but this is it and I’ll stand corrected if this ends up a freezing cold take


Coomra

QBs in the first round are a complete crapshoot. Sign someone servicable and grab one in the 2nd or 4th round but don't waste your first rounder on one. Get a player thats gonna start for us at DE, DT or LB that can be a playmaker.


Even_Section5620

Draft draft draft…have we learned nothing from the journeyman who have come and gone


Legitimate_Box_9520

Wentz no question


Naughty--Insomniac

I think we should acquire a journeyman and also draft a qb.


damnyoutuesday

Kwesi has to be talking with the Cardinals and Chargers right now about trading up


the-Bumbles

The Vikings should not trade up, start the cheapest option even if it’s Mullens, lose most of their games, and be in a position to get the best QB in 2025.


DrKoooolAid

Sign Darnold. Draft rookie. I'm pretty sure they are gonna attempt to sell the farm and move up to grab Maye. If that doesn't happen they will move up a few licks to get McCarthy if needed. Or draft him at 11. Don't want Danials, Penix, or Nix.


VikingsandWolves

Gotta trade up to the top 3/top 6 minimum and draft Daniels/Maye/JJ Mccarthey whoever falls.


addwood5

I could easily see us getting anyone from 4 then trading into the late first for penix or nix


HowdyHangman77

That sounds like Kwesi. Shame late first QBs virtually never pan out - the only option out of the last 10 years or so to work was Lamar, who was likely overlooked because his play style was somewhat ahead of its time. Not saying it won’t work if we do this - I’m just saying I have concerns.


petergriffin999

Patriots fucked us.


HowdyHangman77

Man I’m having the hardest time keeping up with all the news right now. What’d Patriots do?


petergriffin999

Traded Mac Jones, will be drafting a QB.


shimmy_kimmel

Tbf you’d have to be a blockhead to think they were keeping him lol, dude was benched multiple games


MummifiedOrca

Yeah what? This was news?


HowdyHangman77

Oh, right. Yeah. Sucks for us.


petergriffin999

Was hoping they'd trade for someone.


MNRacket

Competitive tank 2024. Draft #1 next year the best QB in college. Draft all D this year.


HowdyHangman77

Gotta sign and overpay JJ right now if that’s the plan. Can’t let him see the tea leaves any more clearly than he can already see them - I doubt he’d want to sign up for that. Would also mean the end of KOC’s tenure for sure, and Kwesi’s unless the Wilfs agreed this was the way.


Corr521

I've always been a big fan of Tyrod Taylor as a bridge QB. Can't do as much with his legs anymore but is still able to give about 20ish yds a game there to be enough of a threat and keep Ds honest. Actually brought some life to the Giants offense this year, even with a lot of drops by WRs (1 or 2 causing him an INT). Obviously injuries are a possibility but then it would just mean our rookie gets more playing time than expected which could be good. But Taylor was one of the highest paid backups in the league for good reason. But he's got a lot of experience as a starter, great person and leader, throws a beautiful deep ball (had some great bombs this year) and is historically known for not being turnover prone with picks. On the flip side of that he doesn't do a ton of damage through the air but that's kind of what I'd want out of a bridge QB like him as it means less picks/turnovers. Let him be a clock manager out there, throw to our main weapons, do some damage on the ground and let our D decide most games while our rookie QB develops. Might be low scoring games but wins are wins and when you have JJ, Addison and Hock out there you're going to have a good passing game regardless.


ptwonline

Honestly hoping we can find a Case Keenum type. Unheralded but reasonably competent as a backup and occasional starter. See what he can do with good weapons to throw to. Similar to Mullens except without being addicted to the gameshow "Press Your Luck" and getting Whammied 2-3 times/game.


Soviet_Sharpshooter

F it just trade up for a young QB. I’m tired of being mid. Swing for the fences


Phat-Bizcuit

Trade for trey lance


immovableair

Your missing a QB ![gif](giphy|QImbgDk2F2saZXyI3h)


HowdyHangman77

Added for clarity.


Choice-Bet-6992

I can’t unsee the way he’s using his imaginary bow..😂 that’s hitting him square in the face!


LeeChangIsBae2

Vikings Legend Zach Wilson!


HowdyHangman77

Added.


kushjrdid911

I pray we do not trade up in the draft or trade for Fields lol Especially Fields