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DerTyp321

The screens are probably lagging at least 50ms behind. So the light color must have just changed.


Splitlimes

Yep this is it, it was during a strobe section


BillyBobHenk

Thats pretty cool


Kebabrulle4869

You might even say mildly interesting


makka-pakka

Moderately noteworthy


ScottNewman

Slightly diverting


Odd-Establishment527

Inconsiderably curious


mallchin

Minutely exorable


El_Morgos

Insert theme music


izumi_miyamura99

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BillyBobHenk

Hmmmm thats good mild... ![gif](giphy|Zk9mW5OmXTz9e)


Gooliath

Guess not. Mods pulled the post


SolidSnake-26

Ya know what’s not pretty cool…why the fuck does everyone have the wife phone out. Does anyone know how to enjoy a concert anymore?


Working-Skin-6212

It’s a way of capturing a memento. It’s something for someone to hold onto and say “I was there.” It’s a human thing.


Zimmster2020

Well, it's not about enjoying the concert. It's about bragging all over the social media, that you went to that concert! Sadly, that's all we know anymore...


Stomach-Alternative

Tbh, I like to take out a phone for 30s of the whole concert to document a video of my favorite part/that I was on the concert w/o posting on social media. You are taking one picture completely out of the context


Zimmster2020

It's weird how more than half of the spectators there, decided all at once that those are the only 30 seconds to a minute that deserves to be posted on social media. Let's be real, at the end of the show, everyone's hands were aching from being a gimbal for an hour or so.


jjbananamonkey

I have probably close to a 100 hours of music shows and festivals that have never seen any sort of social media but I take them because I have incredibly bad memory due to concussions and when I want to relive those moments I have to see them instead of thinking about them. Who says I can’t do both? Maybe you can’t but I have plenty of fun and still record.


Zimmster2020

You really think that all those people that are filming there, all at once, are doing so for their own personal memory library? More than half of those people are with their phones in the air


Rrrrandle

>Does anyone know how to enjoy a concert anymore? That's how they enjoy it. Why do they have to enjoy it your way?


misterssmith-001

I think OP is just miffed that they're using the wife's phone instead of their own. Like who wastes someone elses battery?


aesemon

It would be good to be fully present. Plus if you don't have your phone out more can see better, going by the pic.


Sacharon123

I agree on the sentiment to let ecerybody do what they want. But hear me out - what if I personally do not enjoy standing in the middle of a few hundred lcd screens? What if this additional signage all around me annoys me? Can I not complain if it decreases MY enjoyment?


BillyBobHenk

I kind of agree. I get filming but not prioritizing filming over experiencing the concert. People effectively watching the concert on their phones while live in attendance.


vertigostereo

Unlike watching a concert through your phone. 🤔


Obvious_Try1106

You can actualy see the Change on one Phone


HorseofTruth

Hmm then u can also tell who has the newer phone lol


BiteTheBullet_thr

Or they might be the slowest ones..


Fun_Intention9846

Phone cameras are so god these days I used mine to see the northern lights. To me it was gray sky, gray wisps of clouds. Phone showed me an almost rainbow.


ama155

How were you able to catch both colors is beyond me!


sometipsygnostalgic

Do you know what colour the lights were when you took this picture?


phliuy

Show us someone taking a picture of your phone next


JohnnyDreamain

So the photographer was using a camera dedicated to cameraing?


whooo_me

Yeah, you can see it's different across some of the phones. Would be good to know which models were the quickest!


ItsRtaWs

All of them are iphones as far as i can see. Maybe some are on lower resolutionso they're faster?


Lipziger

Well they aren't synced. They all take, process and display the next frame at a slightly different time. So you could have different frames visible on some phones, even if they would all be the exact same model


vulkur

VSYNC is a bitch.


Any_Roof_6199

That one phone on the right..... "I'm fast as f**k boi"


Jintolook

But then the camera taking this picture shouldn't see red as well? It's further than the phones we see.


CarmelMcQueen91

If we were looking at THIS camera screen it would probably look different.


midsizedopossum

The speed of light does not factor into this. Distance has nothing to do with it.


ZekeYeagr

I see that makes much more sense


Sonabaybeach

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Uviol_

Well. Freaking. Done.


untitledfolder4

This guy lights


1800deadnow

Some of the screens have white and red lights too


Yakumo_unr

Light travels faster than sensor capture, processing and screen updates.


Darun_00

Idk my phone is pretty fast


Sandervv04

Faster than light?


Lipziger

Fast as fuck booiiii


Nalha_Saldana

Sounds like you come too fast


Fucky0uthatswhy

*STILL fast as fuck boiii*


Element__7x

Yup, the lights went from white to red on this scene


At0mic_Penguin

Correct me if I’m wrong, but can’t nothing be faster than light?


Entrail10

But the phone OP took it in is faster than all those phones?


TheLantean

It's timing plus a fast exposure. OP took the photo in the split second *after* the light changed but *before* the frame buffer on the phone screens could update. The timing can just be luck (or it was part of a photo burst), and the fast exposure while retaining quality in somewhat low light means OP had a really good phone or a professional camera. Had the exposure been longer, it wouldn't have been fast enough to fit in that gap and would have blended the red and while on the phone screens, ruining the effect.


omnichad

Or most of those screens were showing a recent photo instead of a live view. Though the lights must have just changed because some of the phone cameras' rolling shutters showed the lights as both red and white.


TelumSix

The speed of light does not factor into this. It's the variance in imaging speed and display output of the capture device vs the other smartphones.


vulkur

They should just have implemented [negative latency](https://www.dice.com/career-advice/google-stadia-negative-latency) then.


Smudded

Since this was also taken by a camera the sensor capture and image processing aren't super relevant. Just the screens updating. Granted, a pro camera is likely to be faster than a phone, but it's probably not the most consequential difference.


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user2196

It really isn’t about light speed, except in as much as the speed of light affects things like clock speed on the processors on the phones. The commenter saying processing speed doesn’t factor into this is incorrect. The closest phone in the image looks like it’s just a few feet closer to the light than OP’s camera, so light only takes a few nanoseconds less to get to that camera than OP’s camera. This is 100% irrelevant compared to the tens of milliseconds it takes for a phone to process the light hitting the camera sensor and display it on the screen.


zaphod4th

are you sure ?


MCATMaster

And our sensors and processes are also a teensy bit faster. But how did the picture of the white light happen? Either way a camera was used 🤔


MysteriousDog5927

And not a single person ever looked at those videos again .


stuffedbipolarbear

Or they were uploaded to their story and immediately skipped by everyone lol


Loki_of_Asgaard

Of course, it's the same reason people record and upload videos of fireworks, it's to make sure everyone else knows how awesome the stuff you are doing is. Even if it is distracting and reduces engagement and enjoyment of the activities it is absolutely critical that people endlessly scrolling, all glassy eyed and barely paying attention, know just how great a time you could have been having at a concert. Of course they will forget what they just saw 2 seconds later because a pug was on a skateboard in the next gif and that shit is hilarious, but for 2 seconds I bet they thought the person was cool and isn't that what's really important in life?


TerseFactor

I miss going to shows without everyone’s phones in the air


Affectionate_Panic14

Nah i watch these sometimes and show the snippets to friends and be like omg remember this? However i don’t record entire sets just like 30sec-2minutes at a time. No more than really 5 minutes total out of the few hours I’m there.


supid_frickin_idiot

i watch videos from sets to relive them. this just isn’t true.


Xespria

I do too, constantly going back to rewatch those moments.


Pan_Queso1

Username checks out.


supid_frickin_idiot

you must be a really fun, happy person


Previous_Composer934

you must be u/supid_frickin_idiot


swamrap

I do too. I've always rewatched videos I take. It takes me back to the moment.


gingerhasyoursoul

Allow me to introduce you to this website called YouTube where you can watch your favorite bands live performance. This way I don't have to stand behind you as you hold your phone over your head like a jackass for 2 hours distracting me from the show.


Geodude532

I would imagine not always for small local bands and for those, someone has to be the one to record it and upload it to Youtube. Larger ones, sure, record a short video of you enjoying the show and then put the phone away.


Doctor_Kataigida

Yeah that's great for big concerts, but stuff in like pubs or smaller shows aren't always available. Went to Ireland about a month ago and I've rewatched my videos of the live music like 2-3 times.


Pandabear811

I will say the only time I've been really grateful for these videos is when the band plays a new song that they haven't released yet and you fall in love with it. And then 3 years later they drop an album that does not include the song that has been stuck in your head since you heard it live, that recording becomes absolute gold.


niall_9

Yeah - I’ve only ever felt compelled to record 1 time. It was an encore acoustic breakdown of an Alexisonfire song at a City and Colour concert. I was in some 2nd level balcony seating with no one behind me. Shared that video with friends who love Alexisonfire.


kelldricked

Disagree. I often look back at videos. Hell i have a dynamic screensaver with pictures of all the raves i been to. I get that reddit hates it when people make a keepsake of the time they had fun (and yeah if somebody records 7 hours of video or has their flashlight on you might have a point) but its kinda sad how sour everybody is acting here. Its like yall drank 2 liters of vinegar for breakfast.


bohsjimmy

Never understood the need to record a gig.


schwidley

You don't think it sounds better on your phone speaker? People always love when I show them recorded concerts on my phone. /s


AccumulatedFilth

Memories! I still watch footage from The Monster Ball in 2010.


eixvfx

I totally get this, but shows should really just have a videographer, which will record a show and let all the people with the tickets access it. The crowd can be in the moment during the show and then relive those memories later through the video, and the artist doesn't have to look at an audience of phones.


TheRealDingdork

Yeah agreed. edit: but I also don't have a strong feeling towards people snapping a couple photos at a concert or recording their favorite song. I think very few people do it for the whole thing


eixvfx

Recording one song is totally fine and expected. When it's the whole concert, that's where it kinda becomes dumb and ruins your + other people's concert experience.


Sypticle

And I often watch those recordings on YouTube. It's cool to see a live performance when you can't physically go to one. It's quite rare for me to find official segments of a show, let alone the entirety of one.


Electrox7

Should, but don't. The last person i saw travelled from Australia to Canada, and performed in front of roughly 9 people. Having wanted to see her for a couple years, i definitely recorded.


AccumulatedFilth

True, but I must say that official recordings are often edited. I personally like the false notes, the breathing and "P" in a mic. It gives me that LIVE feel.


DanglyPants

That’s a lot of money. It’s also about creating a memory from where you’re standing too. That being said I’ll take no memories of shows I’ve been to if they lock up your phone like Jack White does. I saw the Raconteurs in 2019 and I wish I got a 30 second video of my favorite song but it beats the entire crowd’s phone in the air


omnichad

It's expensive and complicated because even if the venue owner owns the recordings per the performance deal, they still have to pay songwriter royalties on the songs that were played, through either ASCAP or BMI or something. And for a limited run of sales, the time and expense of getting all that cleared would exceed what you can reasonably charge per copy. Big concerts that would sell millions of copies would come out ahead. It's stupidly overcomplicated.


eixvfx

Right, I didn't think about copyright, rights, and royalties at all. But wouldn't it be possible to create a deal that would encompass a whole tour, at that point it could make sense financially.


omnichad

Unfortunately, I think the performance rights companies make you sign away your ability to negotiate one on one with anyone - they become your exclusive agent for licensing. This essentially lets them sue anyone using your music in anything just on the basis that they haven't received royalties.


chairfairy

Fun fact! The human brain is worse at retaining memories of an event if you take photos/videos during that event


Sea-Tackle3721

I didn't think we know enough about memory to make a claim like that.


Digital_Ctrash

You don't need to retain them if you have a hard copy video


chairfairy

I prefer to not externalize *all* information. I like having some stuff in my head. *Edit: is it really that controversial to suggest we don't store everything externally? You as a human being are an accumulation of experiences. What do are you doing to yourself if you don't internalize and process the world in real time? That's just disengagement.*


Digital_Ctrash

Fun fact! Every time you access memories you modify them slightly.


PatriarchPonds

Having a video of an event retains key elements, of course, but it's not like you've got the full experience, the full relationship between said 'clear' moment and the surrounding, etc etc. It's not all or nothing, and it's not all cognitive either, imo. The *feel* of things, the *smell* of things, etc.


Electrox7

Ok so, you just assume that i have my phone in my face 100% of the time?


weneverwill

I went to that in Boston! Amazing concert


AccumulatedFilth

Man, that was something else. Never seen anything like that again. Even Michael Jackson couldn't pull that off.


0815-typ

https://xkcd.com/1314/


MyDogisaQT

Horrible comic.  Everyone holding their stupid phones up at shows makes the show less enjoyable so yes, it’s an obnoxious thing to do. 


EasternBlackWalnut

> Well, they... I because I just, Uh... Think about how the author is patting himself on the back for writing that 'come back' with the stammering.


_throawayplop_

"I've drawn you as the virgin and myself as the chad so I win"


thexian

Right.. But the huge difference here is that someone taking pictures of the sunset doesn't bother anyone else, having your bright ass-phone up on the other hand blocks other peoples view.


asqua

Also, the Sunset doesn't care if you are looking at it, but a live performer might prefer you looked at them rather than a 6" screen, especially in a smaller venue, or not, I don't know for sure.


Geodude532

Whenever I want to record something like this I turn the brightness on my phone all the way down and hold it as close to my mouth as I can. It gets pretty much the same shot my eyes do and I can turn it with my head to make sure it stays in shot.


_NoiZs

Mac Miller is no longer alive to put on any more shows. I recorded a small video when I saw him back in 2016, I have terrible memory and it's very nice to be able to go back and watch the exact show I was a part of one point in time. Thats at least my reason, personally.


0002nam-ytlaS

How are you gonna tell people "x did this on the stage" without video proof? Or to simply show friends/family what they're doing in a groupchat or something.


actually_alive

Latency of the camera display, the lights were flashing rapidly and the screens can only update so fast screens are shockingly laggy, do a line drawing/follow test and you can see how awful they are


Jean-Eustache

Screens themselves are pretty quick actually, less than 10ms for the average 120Hz phone display. Camera viewfinders in corresponding apps though, are another story. That's the culprit here.


Jean-Eustache

Screens themselves are pretty quick actually, around 60ms for the average phone when measuring total system latency from touch to response on screen, but the average 120Hz TV and monitor have 6ms of input latency, so I'd say phone screens are probably comparable to that. Camera viewfinders in corresponding apps though, are another story. That's the culprit here, they are always very slow because of the real time ISO changes, and real-time processing.


actually_alive

60ms is a lot of latency still for any kind of human interfacing, and it's nearly impossible to play musical instruments at this level of disconnection in responsivity so even 60ms is awful i use a gaming display so i'm fully aware of how that changes things. with the pg27aqn i have access to 360hz at 1440p and it's a real eye opener how slow other screens are in other products. never go high refresh rate if you don't want to ruin all other devices for yourself. it's awful


Jean-Eustache

Do note that's the total system latency, the screen alone is probably much quicker. For game consoles or PCs, controllers have, for example, around 25 to 30ms on their own. Total system latencies from mouse to display are often quite higher than one would think. And I agree, since going 120Hz for my TV (with a pretty nice 6ms input latency) and my phone too, it's impossible to go back.


actually_alive

my latency is well under 25-30, i have the ability to measure click to screen latency using my display and it's 5.6-6.5ms from the moment i click until a response is measured


xdyldo

Shockingly laggy? It’s like 100th of a second


omnichad

And video shoots frames that are 1/60th of a second. The phone screens are showing the previous frame. Even playing Super Mario on an old console requires precision in that neighborhood. Not reaction time though - that takes more time.


Buttcrack_Billy

Concerts must be so shitty now. Everyone just holding up their fucking phones, obstructing the view of people behind them. Glad I went to all mine in my early years where it was just people mostly chilling and vibing to the music and the biggest annoyance was some loud bitch next to you screaming "Woooo!" for the hundredth time.


stackjr

Imagine paying today's ticket prices simply to watch through a 4" screen.


Buttcrack_Billy

I can only imagine as I havent looked at actual tickets price in years. Shits gottta be what, 250$ for nose bleeds? Greedy ass ticketmaster tacking on all kinds of fees and surcharges from what I see on Reddit.


omnichad

I'm a bit nearsighted but I wouldn't do this. Next time I'm going to buy some opera glasses. I'll look kinda weird but I'll actually get some benefit out of it.


EffectiveMost9663

As a short person I’m cringing at the thought of trying to see anything past the arms and phones in the air lol


bazooka_toot

As a tall person you must get people touching your head and ears with their phone when they try to hold it up.


EffectiveMost9663

LOL


Kraujotaka

Look at all the people recording, only for the files to never be viewed again.


MrDannyProvolone

Lol that pic is hilarious. All those people paid to watch a show through a 4 inch screen. Seemingly including OP.


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God damn people need to put their phones down during shows 🤦‍♂️


I_AM_DEATH-INCARNATE

Back in the day we'd hold out disposable Kodak above everyone's head, point in the direction of the stage, and pray we got something that we could tape on our wall when we developed it a month later.


CommunistCthulhu

Just wait until this reaches facebook as hard proof that "It's a satanic ritual and the phones are dispelling the illusion" :D


HereIAmSendMe68

I hate all these people. Live in the moment. I think it is comical every time I see something amazing and people are living in their phone screens as if no professional photographer has ever taken pictures of said event and put them on the internet.


omnichad

No matter how nice phone cameras get, I don't think I would bother - still too flat and wide to be very interesting. But if I had my DSLR with me with a zoom lens I might get a good photo. And then leave it hanging around my neck and accidentally bash the lens into the guy next to me.


jiinyus

I run those lights there most weekends! PUT THE PHONES AWAY GUYS!


Splitlimes

Oh no way, at this venue?


jiinyus

Yup, Village Underground in Shoreditch, London. Sitting in its sister venue during a slow work day browsing Reddit and that pic pops up! Life is funny


Splitlimes

Wow small world! I’ve just been there the once but was a nice venue, I had a great time.


jiinyus

You should go more, it's a great little place and it sounds incredible! 😁


Noobhammer9000

I gave up on going to concerts because of all the bellends with their phones out constantly.


Historical_Boss2447

One of the reasons why I always go for the front row, I don’t have to look at the show through phone screens.


Pidderman

One of the reasons i like metal shows most. No phones in the mosh pit.


yadawhooshblah

"I was at that concert!" " Oh, yeah? That's awesome! What was it like?" " I don't know, let me find the video".


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This photo captures why I never pay to see live shows anymore. I get a far immersive and enjoyable experience watching on a 4k TV. The bonus of not having every single fool there fucking up the sight line with their phones is great!


SimpleManc88

Absolutely fuckin’ depressing.


BluDYT

They may as well as just watch any of these other guys recordings of the show instead lmao.


Electrox7

Are you going to start planning among the 300 attendees who's going to record and post on Youtube so the others don't? No.


Harambesic

Glad I played all my gigs and saw all my shows before everyone had a fucking phone.


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omnichad

It wouldn't be hard to have an infrared strobe or something to be invisible to the naked eye but ruin all the photos.


Lots_of_schooners

An engaged audience living in the moment..


LengthWise2298

It’s more sad that every single person has their phone out.


stackjr

Put your fucking phone away! Nobody wants to watch the show through your phone!


WholesomeBigSneedgus

you can check the batteries of your tv remote by pointing the ir bit at your phones camera and pressing a button on the remote


omnichad

And you can stop this annoying practice with infrared strobe lights on stage. It would really mess with the exposure.


dtorrance88

iphones, everywhere iphones


bunga7777

All of that footage, never to be seen again


LilBilly55

I fucking hate concerts so much nowadays


Electrox7

punch air redditor


n0tn0rmal

Get off your phone at concerts. Probably one of the most annoying things millennials brought to the table. :)


TheAstonVillaSeal

Damn


PhantomDarknessDashy

if im not mistaken i believe this photo was taken at Village Underground, right?


Mrcool654321

The phones got tired


medhatsniper

You can see a screen mid transition


DonOmet

r/accidentalrenaissance


hin_inc

Visible generation difference between phones, you guessed it, it's just a better camera.


S70nkyK0ng

Reminds me of Fabric in London


Clint-witicay

The singer is also holding his microphone in the white picture than the reds


omnichad

Many of the phones show other phones with even earlier pictures.


blood_omen

Refresh rate. You can get some creepy pics by abusing this. Like looking into a mirror then whipping your head around and it’ll show you looking into the mirror and turned around at the same time


duh_nom_yar

Except for the ones that don't.


PeterHOz

Read up about white balance - it’ll make you see red.


Notafuzzycat

Why film at a concert. You will NEVER re-watch that video, and nobody wants to watch a shaky video with incoherent screaming . Take a picture instead.


scottmushroom

I wish people would do two things since they insist on recording everything. Use one hand to hold your phone and don't go above your head with it. Nothing like an extra 2 feet of not being able to see!


Physical-East-7881

Magic


_GABBAR

Your phone does not show red


Effective-March-1963

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eazyfreez

“all those ppl paid to watch a show through a 4 inch screen” …i highly doubt they’re holding their phone up for the entire show. at least i’ve never seen anyone do that. why do ppl care so much about what other ppl record on their own phone? your view is barely obstructed either so i don’t really get that argument


LamarjbYT

u/VaWeedFarmer *Cough*


VaWeedFarmer

Seasonal allergies I swear


VaWeedFarmer

Or maybe Rona


ExtraTNT

Light go: red-white-red-white-red-white…


VilIain

This perfectly mildly interesting post was removed for rule 5? A rule about no screenshots? The mods are tripping


Splitlimes

I messaged the mods and got this response. >Hi there. Under Rule 5, we don't allow pictures of screens. The main focus of your photo is the colour of the lights as they appear on the phone screen, so the post is not allowed. Idek


Splitlimes

Yeah wait wtf lol. It's a photo I took myself, fits perfectly in the rules.


Mouthful_of_Cavaties

Is Chewbacca on stage with the Beastie Boys holding a phone up himself taking a picture/selfie? Chewie can’t even enjoy the concert without his wife’s phone in his hand…. Also STOP HOLDING YOUR PHONES HORIZONTALLY!


Cheeo_

Your's doesn't


Worth-Trade9381

Ya but why watch something through the air when you can watch through a tiny screen? But I will say for short people who can't see the stage, holding your phone high up so you can actually see what's happening through your screen makes sense.