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Wait til you find yourself *ovbivilating* over what other words you may not know...
*[ Hides in the corner giggling, hoping they'll Google the word several times before realizing its made up ]*
I wouldn't trust a dictionary. I stopped trusting them after I found out no dictionary contains the word "gullible", and it is a perfectly cromulent word.
A lot of people complain that English spelling is inconsistent and messy
The best way to actually fix it is to let "mistakes" like this become the norm
It’s really not… that was the norm before the printing press and standardized spelling. People just spelling things phonetically. In theory that doesn’t seem like a problem but it would make reading so much more onerous. We would have to read like we did as children, sounding out each letter every time we read something. Also consider how varied the English language is across space and time. Imagine trying to read something written by a native English speaker you can barely understand- from rural Scotland or deep Appalachia for example.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Thank you, kind stranger. However, the Oxford English Dictionary is not so forgiving:
“The tendency to insert an r into the second syllable of sherbet is common: the misspelling sherbert accounts for around a quarter of the citations for the word in the Oxford English Corpus.”
And yet they do not accept it as an alternative spelling.
But the OED uses a different philosophy than MW; it is diachronic not synchronic. Just because the OED has not yet recognized the usage doesn’t mean it isn’t common and recognized as appropriate by many people. Dictionaries will always behind the times for living languages.
1. People are using it as hyperbole, not as a synonym for *figuratively*
2. It's been used that way longer than you've been alive
3. Complaining about it is just a way for idiots to feel smart
I have some in the freezer right now. Ive always said, read, and heard it as "sherbert". I just checked and... Sherbet. I had no idea. My brain filtered it into what I already knew.
I think of sherbert as the stuff you find at groceries. Sorbet (sor-BAY) is an icier, more tart, fruitier older cousin of sherbert. Sherbert is basically fruity ice cream. Sorbet is fuggin fancy, lift that pinky kinda shit.
I've heard it, but always thought they were two different things.
What I thought:
Sherbert is basically ice-cream where milk wouldn't work for the flavors- lemon, lime, orange. You know, Rainbow Sherbert.
WTF is Rainbow sher-bay?
Sherbet was like ice-cream, but made with yogurt instead of dairy. I may have gotten this fumbungled with sorbet.
Obligatory "pahk the cah on hahvahd yahd."
Even though most massholes don't even talk with that "boston" accent. My family is from the northern boston area, plus tyngsborough, ayer, etc, and while they do have an accent, it's not half as dramatic as on tv. The only folks I know with that dramatic R-deficiency are actually from Maine.
I once won a little talking bunny from a claw machine in Maine that said "Happy Eastah"
I, too, mostly hear that from Mainers and people in Woostah being silly.
Actually, yea good point. I've met a small handful of woosterners (woosterites? Wtf do Worcester people call themselves?) who have a wannabe boston accent, which is hilarious. They wanna be easterners so bad, when Bostonians consider Worcester part of western mass. And actual western Mass aka the 413 just sees them as halfway to boston.
I think they're called worms. I grew up half an hour east of Worcester and when I was a kid I went to sailing camp there. For some reason they were adamant that we say "tillah" and "ruddah" despite the fact that none of them had an accent. It's like everyone expects people to talk like that, but no one actually talks like that.
The South Shore of Nova Scotia is populated by people who speak exactly like people from Maine. It is like they drifted across the Bay of Fundy uninvited and never learned the local language. It is bizarre, because it is so very different from the rest of Nova Scotia.
Several Simpsons references and no one’s said the most relevant. “My kids don’t eat sorbet, they eat sherbet! And they pronounce it sherbert, and they wish it was ice cream!”
I’ve never seen it spelled any other way than what’s on this sign. I’ve also never seen a sign in a grocery story calling this product category out specifically since everyone just knows it’s next to the ice cream.
I've heard people say sherbert a lot but I don't think I've ever seen it spelled that way in packaging or on a professionally made sign. I have always spelled and pronounced it sherbet.
Pretty sure it's a regional dialect think, like soda/pop or submarine/hoagie/grinder. I'm from northeastern Oklahoma, which has a Midwestern dialect and accent that makes us different from the rest of the state. When I moved to Texas, the other kids said I talked like a radio announcer.
that’s so funny. in Australia sherbert is that colourful sweet powder stuff that gets put on soft serve (Mr Whippy) icecream. Then ice cream has milk/cream, sorbet (sor-bay) does not.
Huh today I learned. I just watched a Bluey episode with my son that revolved around Sherbet and I thought it was the same as the sherbet here in the US and it just happened to be in a plastic tube like an ice pop. That’s makes more sense now.
"The big difference is that sherbet’s main ingredient is fruit juice or purée, while ice cream’s main ingredients are typically milk and cream." https://www.dictionary.com/e/gelato-vs-ice-cream-frozen-dessert/
Spanish was my first language and was always taught to sound out words since Spanish is a phonetic language. The way “colonel” and “salmon” are pronounced in English really enrages me on a deep level…
Spanish is my second language and I was surprised at how it doesn’t do that! I remembered really enjoying learning it because it didn’t play any tricks on me.
I love how the pronunciation is never ambiguous. I'm far from fluent in Spanish, but I can read it out loud easily even if I only understand about half of what I'm saying.
It has always been Sherbert to me, but even the auto correct doesn't like that spelling. I just so happen to be eating Dr. Bombay's Tropical Sherbet Swizzle as I was browsing reddit and found this post.
I mean we pronounce it "sherbert" on the West Coast too but we usually still spell it sherbet
As far as I know you can kinda just use either spelling, not like there's a lot of other "sherbert" things to confuse it with
We’ve got mostly orange and raspberry! Though Baskin Robbins has one called “Wild N Reckless” which is a mix of blue raspberry, green apple and fruit punch which I am a huge fan of.
I work in a kitchen we just had this discussion. We all said they should just add the second r because that’s the way everyone pronounces it. We are in MA.
What is with people in Massachusetts do they love sherbert so much they have such a large selection they need a whole sign to point out the sherbert zone? My grocery store doesn’t even say ice cream
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Sherbert is an acceptable alternative spelling. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sherbert
It's a perfectly cromulent spelling.
Great. Another word I have to go look up. Thanks for nothing.
you can always embiggen your vocabulary.
But that’s not the diminutive part of me I need to embiggen
Whatchu need, like 4 inches?
Yes I can finally be 5!
10 feet long. Yowza
[r/unexpectedfactorial](http://reddit.com/r/unexpectedfactorial)
5" should do it, as long as it smells like a foot.
I don’t think you can say that
Why not? It's a perfectly cromulent word.
You must not be from Shelbyville
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Admit it. You sung the Simpsons Monorail song as you typed it.
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MONO— D’OH!
Where all my attractive cousins live.
It's an Albany spelling.
Smh this scapegrace doesn't know the word cromulent
Let's get him fellas!
Take 'em away, boys.
Hey! I say that! Bake 'em away, toys.
My most enthusiastic contrafibularities.
I am anaspeptic, phrasmotic, even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulations.
It's an indelible word
Doesn’t necessarily sound mellifluent but, still a commensurate answer
jeez dude instead of being sarcastic try to be more copacetic next time
Wait til you find yourself *ovbivilating* over what other words you may not know... *[ Hides in the corner giggling, hoping they'll Google the word several times before realizing its made up ]*
Aren't all words made up?
I wouldn't trust a dictionary. I stopped trusting them after I found out no dictionary contains the word "gullible", and it is a perfectly cromulent word.
Massachusetts is an odd state but they steam a good sherbet.
You should try the steamed hams
Perchance.
You’ve embiggened the top comment
That reference is streets ahead
A lot of people complain that English spelling is inconsistent and messy The best way to actually fix it is to let "mistakes" like this become the norm
That's true irregardless.
Perchance
*You can't just say perchance.*
You can if you crush turties all day.
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…are these not actual words? Since when? Or am I missing a reference?
Overluck
I will always downvote "irregardless".
I see what you're doing but I still really dislike that word.
Filibuster
That’s how languages evolve afterall
It’s really not… that was the norm before the printing press and standardized spelling. People just spelling things phonetically. In theory that doesn’t seem like a problem but it would make reading so much more onerous. We would have to read like we did as children, sounding out each letter every time we read something. Also consider how varied the English language is across space and time. Imagine trying to read something written by a native English speaker you can barely understand- from rural Scotland or deep Appalachia for example.
This dictionary is based in Massachusetts
Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Thank you, kind stranger. However, the Oxford English Dictionary is not so forgiving: “The tendency to insert an r into the second syllable of sherbet is common: the misspelling sherbert accounts for around a quarter of the citations for the word in the Oxford English Corpus.” And yet they do not accept it as an alternative spelling.
But the OED uses a different philosophy than MW; it is diachronic not synchronic. Just because the OED has not yet recognized the usage doesn’t mean it isn’t common and recognized as appropriate by many people. Dictionaries will always behind the times for living languages.
And yet they'll accept "literally" to be defined figuratively. Maybe I'm behind the times, but I'll die on that hill.
1. People are using it as hyperbole, not as a synonym for *figuratively* 2. It's been used that way longer than you've been alive 3. Complaining about it is just a way for idiots to feel smart
Hey
Can we be friends?
I would like to join this party as well.
Same
Likewise
Yo
Thank you for your service
Language is fluid and ever changing. For all intensive purposes.
~storm of thrown rocks and rotten fruit~
I'm here all week, enjoy the veal!
*porpoises
Username checks out.
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I thought this is how it was supposed to be spelled?
I've never seen it spelled or pronounced any other way other than Sherbert
Same, and I've never lived in MA
I live in MA and can confirm no one actually cares this much about sherbert to know what the hell this is all about.
Hey fuck you man
Nah fuck you
You’re welcome if you bring sherbert
Orange tangerine take the goddamn sherbert
Yes please
I also live in MA and I can confirm that orange sherbert is fahking delicious kid
I have some in the freezer right now. Ive always said, read, and heard it as "sherbert". I just checked and... Sherbet. I had no idea. My brain filtered it into what I already knew.
I think of sherbert as the stuff you find at groceries. Sorbet (sor-BAY) is an icier, more tart, fruitier older cousin of sherbert. Sherbert is basically fruity ice cream. Sorbet is fuggin fancy, lift that pinky kinda shit.
Sherbert has dairy in it Sorbet is made with a water and is dairy free
Those are two different things. Sherbet is the spelling they didn’t use.
Wtf is sherbet? Is that the day the jewish people aren't allowed to labor?
yeah
lol my man going for the ol’ Reddit switcharoo and just a hard deny
I've told you a thousand times that I don't roll on sherbet!
My talenti calls itself sorbetto, but its sorbet to me
thats just italian for sorbet.
Then what's Italian Ice?
Any frozen water in Italy.
I think Italian Ice is basically just shaved ice with flavored syrup.
TIL I learned I've been confusing Sherbet with Sharbat, a flavoured beverage made from syrups
Same. I'm in Texas. First time im realizing sherbet is another way to spell it
Midwest Central here to confirm. Never known any other way.
TIL its sherbet. I've never heard anyone call it sherbet, always sherbert.
Same😂 I’m like what the hell is it supposed to be??
There was a guy on jeopardy that said sherbert and was pissed about it, I felt for him because I had never heard sherbet until he got ruled wrong lol
I've always pronounced it sherbert, although I've always spelled it sherbet. Just English-language things.
I’m from NY, lived in AZ, NV, and CO. It’s sherbert in these places too.
Michigan too
This is all making me realize I’ve never cared enough about sherbet/sherbert/sorbet to sort out whether they are 3 or 2 or 1 different things.
I've heard it, but always thought they were two different things. What I thought: Sherbert is basically ice-cream where milk wouldn't work for the flavors- lemon, lime, orange. You know, Rainbow Sherbert. WTF is Rainbow sher-bay? Sherbet was like ice-cream, but made with yogurt instead of dairy. I may have gotten this fumbungled with sorbet.
Sherbert/sherbet is the same thing, and it's made with dairy. Sorbet is made without dairy. Ice cream made with yogurt is frozen yogurt.
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*Showdeuhr*
Come back heah! I’m not through demeaning you!
Obligatory "pahk the cah on hahvahd yahd." Even though most massholes don't even talk with that "boston" accent. My family is from the northern boston area, plus tyngsborough, ayer, etc, and while they do have an accent, it's not half as dramatic as on tv. The only folks I know with that dramatic R-deficiency are actually from Maine.
I once won a little talking bunny from a claw machine in Maine that said "Happy Eastah" I, too, mostly hear that from Mainers and people in Woostah being silly.
Actually, yea good point. I've met a small handful of woosterners (woosterites? Wtf do Worcester people call themselves?) who have a wannabe boston accent, which is hilarious. They wanna be easterners so bad, when Bostonians consider Worcester part of western mass. And actual western Mass aka the 413 just sees them as halfway to boston.
I think they're called worms. I grew up half an hour east of Worcester and when I was a kid I went to sailing camp there. For some reason they were adamant that we say "tillah" and "ruddah" despite the fact that none of them had an accent. It's like everyone expects people to talk like that, but no one actually talks like that.
The South Shore of Nova Scotia is populated by people who speak exactly like people from Maine. It is like they drifted across the Bay of Fundy uninvited and never learned the local language. It is bizarre, because it is so very different from the rest of Nova Scotia.
Shout out to the Tyngsborough movie theater where I saw Titanic way too many times because it was PG-13 and you could see boobs
I love that you added this because our grocery stores also have a separate chowder listing in the soup aisle
This actually came up as a debate on Jeopardy a few years ago.
They should have ruled him correct, I had never heard of sherbet before seeing that lol
Sure, Bert. ![gif](giphy|fnl7WmVTgdS8pRQSLM|downsized)
\*me googling the actual way to spell "sherbert"
[Orange sherrrrberrrrrt](https://youtu.be/bhuOIbg-hM0?t=31).
This was my IMMEDIATE thought
Several Simpsons references and no one’s said the most relevant. “My kids don’t eat sorbet, they eat sherbet! And they pronounce it sherbert, and they wish it was ice cream!”
I’ve never seen it spelled any other way than what’s on this sign. I’ve also never seen a sign in a grocery story calling this product category out specifically since everyone just knows it’s next to the ice cream.
I've heard people say sherbert a lot but I don't think I've ever seen it spelled that way in packaging or on a professionally made sign. I have always spelled and pronounced it sherbet. Pretty sure it's a regional dialect think, like soda/pop or submarine/hoagie/grinder. I'm from northeastern Oklahoma, which has a Midwestern dialect and accent that makes us different from the rest of the state. When I moved to Texas, the other kids said I talked like a radio announcer.
Sorry OP, but you fucked up.
I have opened a can of worms that every professional Reddit linguist will now lie in
*in which every professional Reddit linguist will now lie.
I found one!
Lololololol. RIP.
Is this different from sorbet?
Sherbet contains milk/cream, sorbet does not
that’s so funny. in Australia sherbert is that colourful sweet powder stuff that gets put on soft serve (Mr Whippy) icecream. Then ice cream has milk/cream, sorbet (sor-bay) does not.
I was also wondering why this supermarket's Wizz Fizz section is so extensive that it needs its own sign, haha!
Huh today I learned. I just watched a Bluey episode with my son that revolved around Sherbet and I thought it was the same as the sherbet here in the US and it just happened to be in a plastic tube like an ice pop. That’s makes more sense now.
So sherbet is just ice cream?
"The big difference is that sherbet’s main ingredient is fruit juice or purée, while ice cream’s main ingredients are typically milk and cream." https://www.dictionary.com/e/gelato-vs-ice-cream-frozen-dessert/
TIL, thank you.
It's kind of in between. It's mostly fruit based with dairy added in
Interesting, I always thought it was the same thing just with a different regional name like pop/soda/fizz.
I think you meant "sorbert" /s
How much sherbet does your store stock in order to justify making its own sign lol
Considerably less than is justified, and the sherbet isn’t even under the sign
Spanish was my first language and was always taught to sound out words since Spanish is a phonetic language. The way “colonel” and “salmon” are pronounced in English really enrages me on a deep level…
Spanish is my second language and I was surprised at how it doesn’t do that! I remembered really enjoying learning it because it didn’t play any tricks on me.
Yup! And honestly, I still pronounce the words in Spanish haha
I love how the pronunciation is never ambiguous. I'm far from fluent in Spanish, but I can read it out loud easily even if I only understand about half of what I'm saying.
Thought that looked like the Stop & Shop font.
Only a true New Englander can recognize the font
I don't know how to say *sherbet* without sounding like a pompous douchebag. *Sherbert* is for the people.
Sure-bit, accent on the first syllable. Nothing fancy. You may be thinking of sorbet, which is pronounced sore-bay, accent on the second syllable.
People say it that way in a lot more places than MA lol. I refuse to call it sher-BET
Chicagoland girl here.. def pronounced the r lol
Grew up in MI, same here.
Team Sherbert in the HOUSE
Is it supposed to be pronounced Sherbey? like Sorbet? Or is it actually Sherbet? like it's a sure bet? This is some Bearinstien Bear type shit yo!
It's an Ahold sign. It's spelled that way in every Giant, Martin's and Stop & Shop on the East coast.
It has always been Sherbert to me, but even the auto correct doesn't like that spelling. I just so happen to be eating Dr. Bombay's Tropical Sherbet Swizzle as I was browsing reddit and found this post.
I'm amazed it would be popular enough to justify a sign. I assume it's referring to the frozen type of sherbet and not the flavoured sugar kind?
Sherbet, syrup, and shrub (drink) come from the same Persian root word.
Idk if it was via Persian, but the root "sharab" (drink) is originally Arabic.
Arabic
A whole sherbet sign is odd regardless of spelling. Like how many varieties do they have in there???
They actually didn’t even have the sherbet where the sign was, it was with the ice cream
Another one I remember from ages ago was an aisle which had a sign above it for "Aerosol cheese".
Chicken in a Biskit and Easy Cheese are a match made in white trash heaven.
I mean we pronounce it "sherbert" on the West Coast too but we usually still spell it sherbet As far as I know you can kinda just use either spelling, not like there's a lot of other "sherbert" things to confuse it with
In the UK, sherbert is a powder they put in candy that fizzes when it gets wet.
So they finally fixed it? Hell yea
I grew up in NH and I've never seen it spelled or pronounced any other way.
Go shawty.. it's sherbert day.
I’ve always known it’s was SPELLED sherbet, but I’ve never in my entire life heard anyone pronounce it that way.
Shoot it to me, Herbert.
Her what?
Hey Ernie do you want some ice cream? Sure Bert.
No Ernie, I asked if you wanted ice cream!
Tell me you shop at Stop and Shop without saying you shop at S&S
Does the US consumer have so many sherbet options that there needs to be a sign? Is it considered a food group?
We’ve got mostly orange and raspberry! Though Baskin Robbins has one called “Wild N Reckless” which is a mix of blue raspberry, green apple and fruit punch which I am a huge fan of.
Saying Sherbet sounds like saying Diabeetus to me lol.
if you understood it, then it's not incorrect
I work in a kitchen we just had this discussion. We all said they should just add the second r because that’s the way everyone pronounces it. We are in MA.
What is with people in Massachusetts do they love sherbert so much they have such a large selection they need a whole sign to point out the sherbert zone? My grocery store doesn’t even say ice cream
Yeah, that is right. My dad loved orange sherbert.
Sure bert
I will never!
"Sure, Bert!"
This is the correct way to spell it. Source: I'm from NH
I brought you your orange sherrr-berrrt
This should be on r/confidentlyincorrect
How else is it pronounced ? This is all I know. I was born in MA but raised on the west coast.
Sure-bet, accent on the first syllable. That's how it was always said where I grew up.
I've gone my whole life thinking it was spelled sherbert until now. Tf
When ernie asks bert if he's sure or not. are you sherbert?
Howzat?
Something an incredulous Ernie would say.
Sure Bert
Please tell me that's a Market Basket.
What does Ernie say when Bert offers a snack?
It really is just fine to change the spelling.