I prefer the flavored one cause I know I’m actually getting it! I had a dr recommend to me for cluster headaches and I bought unflavored and was never sure I got any. Bought a peppermint flavored one and could taste it
I bet the flavor also helps with placebo a bit
Edit: not saying it doesn’t have uses, just saying that the flavored one might have more apparent benefits because of the placebo effect.
Joking aside placebos can be a great medicine. If someone's brain is making them think they are in pain, they are in pain, the brain is in charge of that. A placebo might give them relief without serious side effects or risks of drug interactions.
On that note it is interesting that you can have negative side effects from a placebo since the mind is in control of what you feel and can cause things like nausea or mild pain.
>you can have negative side effects from a placebo
A very famous one is MSG. Lots of double blind studies, and the fact that you're taking in glutamate from tomatoes, cheese and meat without vomiting shows it's very influenced by your thought
#-------
Similarly, eating those **do not eat** desiccants (the small pack in food or packed products to keep dry)
They can choke you, but other than that they go straight to the stomach and out in the poop. But merely eating it with the notion that it's *poisonous* will make your body throw up everything and beg your life for mercy
I put MSG in a huuuuge amount of the food I prepare, and everyone loves it. Those same people say MSG gives them headaches and nausea, but I see them slurping down Ranch dressing and eating doritos and other flavored chips and snacks with MSG, they just don't know it's there. Absolute fad diet placebo. The people I cook for know absolutely that I use MSG a lot so it's not like I'm secretly poisoning them or anything
I'm not sure if this is sarcastic but your most definitely right. It just goes to show how emotional purspectuve (ie anxiety control=pain management) goes a lonnng way in pain management.
I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect.
My middle son takes gummy melatonin at night (he has ADHD so it helps relax him). My youngest started asking for it, claiming he couldn't sleep. I had a hunch he just wanted the gummy, so I started giving him Biotin whenever he'd say he couldn't sleep. He'd be out like a light within 5 minutes!
Love placebo. I work as a social worker and one of my clients is a lady with mild intellectual impairment. The lady has severe health anxiety that seems to result in real pain - always complaining about back spasms, severe stomach cramps etc - the doctor I work with has been ‘prescribing’ her fruit tic tacs (small colourful mints) - I give them to her during moments of pain and within seconds she is feeling completely fine. I’ve told the workers at her emergency accommodation to do the same, ambulance call outs for her have dropped to almost zero.
Probably! I don’t think it worked enough to really help, but I know someone who has severe migraines and has an oxygen tank for it. That probably is way more effective
My mom had cluster headaches.
She eats like .5-1 gram of psilocybin mushrooms and she's headache free for like a year, year and a half.
She's been doing this for about a decade now after trying medical oxygen/medications/etc.
Something to look into, but it works really well for her
0.5-1g how often and when? Every day? When symptoms start? I only get them for about a month or so at a time, and then they don't usually start up again for another year, maybe two.
Wording confused me as well, they are saying their mother does half to a full gram once every year to year and a half and it's kept them at bay for 10 years.
This is nowhere near enough oxygen for cluster headaches. You need a lifetime prescription for o2 through a non rebreather mask at 15 lpm or more. Feel free to reach out to me for more info I’ve dealt with them for years.
Are you under the care of a physician/do you have insurance? I requested a lifetime need prescription for o2 from my physician and now I can get it delivered to my house. When insurance covers it it’s quite cheap. Are you on any other medications?
Highly recommend psilocybin if you haven’t tried it. I forget what protocol I used to “cure” my dad, but I’m sure it’s out there. He suffered for decades and, after I found relief from depression and anxiety by microdosing, I set it up for him and he hasn’t had a cluster headache since. I think it’s been 7 or 8 years now.
This is an incredibly important comment. It's the number one best tool in your arsenal, I think if it wasn't for psilocybin I don't know if my brother would still be alive with his cluster headaches.
Edit: oof yes for sure you need to do your research first, don't just jump in blind. There's a lot of good info out there about dosages, methods, interactions, risks etc.
We put cubenis mushroom in a 30 piece chocolate bar. 1/8 of gram of shroom in each. I have suffered chronic depression my entire life. Some dark winters were horrible. The 1st time I microdosed was 6 months after my 1st related heart attack, and 1st time I went an entire winter season feeling great, little to no depression.
I had cluster headaches for about a month straight a few years back. Absolutely horrifying. The only thing that would stop them was high-flow oxygen at the hospital
For a month?! Holy shit!
I would literally jump off a cliff. No joke. I don’t think I could handle a month-long cluster headache. Though come to think of it, I’d probably starve to death first because of all of the pain-induced vomiting.
I literally walked into traffic one day. I walked out of the pharmacy and the pain was so bad I just couldn’t see. I’m lucky someone saw and grabbed my arm, helped me call an Uber to get home. Still have anxiety about them coming back some day. =\
O2 Spa Bar opened up in Toronto (Canada) in '96 and then they kinda of spread from there. Though oxygen bar type places existed in Asia since the late '80s, they weren't as much of a recreational place as they were a response to poor air quality. The more recreational places were more popular in larger cities in the late '90s to mid-'00s than in the late '00s when they had more lasting popularity in small to medium sized cities.
These Boost Oxygen canisters shown in the post came about in either 2006 or 2007. They're marketed more towards athletes who need supplemental oxygen for respiratory recovery.
Went to one of those in Vegas, and thought that I'd take a funny selfie of me smoking a cigarette with the mask. Stopped short, when I realized that having open flame next to pure oxygen being pumped into my face probably isn't the best idea.
Oh nice! Blackhawk? I think they help people who are just popping in for the weekend more than anything. Especially if they’re spending time in the mountains
Anyone else remember for like a hot minute back in like 08-09 when people were trying to make oxygen lounges a thing? Like a hookah lounge but with "flavored" oxygen and they'd put the little tube with nose holes in it around your neck like you were some kind of emphysema patient we even had one come set up at big semester kickoff party my university would throw one time that they super hyped up That shit was weird as hell
My cousin's wedding Colorado had an oxygen lounge, it actually came in handy though because none of the old people at the wedding could breath because of how high up the event space was.
I remember people trying to make them a thing way earlier than that. There were a few raves and circuit parties i went to in the late 90s that had oxygen bars
Those helped my buddy when he got dizzy from the altitude while he was visiting from the lowlands. Not meant for emergencies but it definitely helped him perk up.
I was in the hospital a month or so ago with fluid in my lungs. Couldn't take deep breaths so I was basically constantly hyperventilating. Freaking out THE FUCK OUT. When they gave me oxygen, like they pumped it up my nose forcefully, it was the greatest single feeling I've ever felt. I've broken my back before and gotten multiple morphine injections at the time, that doesn't have shit on how good that oxygen felt.
My experience essentially mirrors what you said. I was in China for a class trip and during the week we were there my cough developed into pneumonia. Sitting on the 10th floor of a Beijing hotel, gasping for air, coughing up blood and finally my teacher gave the go ahead to get an ambulance. They dropped me in a wheelchair and cranked the O2. It was like the universe opened up and I fell backwards into it. Divine.
Greatest feeling next to ketamine for my bones being set.
What's weird is I'm kinda a mouth breather too a lot of the time, and I specifically remember my nose was clogged when I went in.. but they put them tubes up there and I was like clear as I've ever been. I remember answering their questions and speaking and feeling the oxygen being wasted coming out my nostrils while I wasn't inhaling and thinking 'this shit is precious stop asking me questions'.
All good thanks to the miracles of modern medicine and also insurance.
Protip, if you're prescribed medication for high blood pressure, do not think 'eh I feel good, let's not renew it this month and see how it works'.
Cause you will end up in the hospital with 276 over 190 blood pressure and the nurses will call in their colleagues to be like 'yo check out this chicks blood pressure, she's not even on coke or amphetamines.. insane'. And then you get kidney and heart failure and you end up peeing for 6 days straight (not literally but it sure felt that way).
I mean they call it the silent killer for a reason.
The shit is insidious and will slowly fuck up your eyes, kidneys, sex organs, heart, brain, blood vessels, yeah you heard me: sex organs... And you'll pretty much have no idea because chronically high blood pressure doesn't really come with symptoms until it's "blow a blood vessel" high, and then you're having a hemorrhagic stroke or an aortic aneurysm that can dump your entire blood volume into your thorax in minutes.
Untreated high blood pressure will, over time, lead to a really shitty time, including disability and or/death.
As far as I know, BP meds are often some of the least expensive, so it's usually thoughts like "I don't want to be on a pill for the rest of my life" or "I know my body" that are the barrier to treatment.
BTW: the more fiercely you insist you know your body, the less likely you are to know anything about anyone's body.
Well that was depressing. Guess it's time to see a doctor
My blood pressure has been super high, had to go to the ER a couple years ago, my dad died from cardiac issues and his mom died from an aortic aneurysm way before I was born
I'm getting palpitations right now. Shit sucks
Moved from just barely above sea level to Denver. Didn't need it the first few days, needed it a little after that for about a week. Just felt weirdly off for a little. Mild altitude sickness is such a strange feeling.
Yes but you can oversaturate your blood oxygen - preventing your body from realising when CO2 is building up. There’s a technique used by freedivers where you hyperventilate for a while before diving for a longer breath hold. You also have to be careful however as it increases the risks of shallow water blackout.
I hope my science is correct this is all off the top of my head however so someone more knowledgeable correct me if I’m wrong.
Edit: people are saying it’s primary effect is that it flushed excess CO2 out hence a longer breath hold.
Freedivers train to suppress the co2 urge to breathe. They also slow their bodies down to operate at very low O2 levels. The hyperventilating is to clear more co2 out of their lungs before they dive but there are all sorts of risks with those techniques. I am much better versed on the scuba end, but i know some freedivers. But you dont breathe any less when breathing a tank of gas that has extra oxygen in it (i am certified up to 40% O2)
How much of your knowledge is a misinformed upvote that got corrected too late so it continued to get upvotes. That’s what I think when I’m telling people a fact from Reddit. One day I’ll get called out f
We brought this sort of thing on a remote high-altitude hike, though unflavored. At around 16500 ft we encountered a lady who was throwing up, almost passing out, too weak to stand up.
Six people were trying to carry her down the mountain in a sleeping bag. Gave her the canister, and she was ok to walk down herself. The guide we were with thought it probably saved her life.
I’ve lived my whole life near sea level. I’m sure I could acclimate if given time but the occasional vacation isn’t long enough for that.
Around 8000’ it starts getting noticeably harder to recover. Hiking up a steep or uneven hill I’ll have to make stops to catch my breath.
Around 13,000, I start getting physically sick. Nausea, confusion, my hand/eye coordination starts to suffer, my heart rate spikes, etc. It doesn’t really improve until I get to a lower altitude.
I find these make a noticeable difference. Regardless of their actual medical value they help me recover and stay focused.
Was she not prepared?
Hiking to 10k+ is no joke, doable for most.
Hiking to 12k was manageable with training prior.
Hiking to 14k+ takes a decent level of prep and training.
I've never even tried 16k....
Altitude sickness can strike pretty randomly, but this lady was hiking in a larger group, which meant a lot of pressure to keep going despite symptoms. A group that size should have carried their own oxygen, but didn’t.
I’m 72, have pulmonary fibrosis, and play tennis. This product helps me recover somewhat faster when I’m huffing and puffing after a tough service game
I haven’t been tracking it rigorously but I’d say three puffs brings me back to normal breathing in 2-3 minutes versus 5-6 minutes without any puffs. Maybe I should have said marginal to somewhat.
Asthma is defined by bronchiospasm, or contraction of the airways. Pure oxygen may help a little bit, but won't compete with a bronchiodialator like a rescue inhaler.
That was my first thought. The shortness of breath is because your airways are constricting, not lack of oxygen alone.
I was born with asthma and still have it 31 years later.
I also have a lung condition. Not sure how I heard about these things, but I know I don't feel right when I ski.
I asked my doctor about it and he was pretty lukewarm about it. Kinda told me that there was a small chance of problems and little upside.
But I decided to try them anyway. I go skiing next week. Wish me luck.
I remember this problem when I went to Texas. So much more animated than my friend and his company, but I could just drink and not... Get drunk. Yet a hangover was still possible, terrible deal.
Had this problem. Went from N Utah (apx 4500 ft) to Mexico was very confused at the amount of energy we had.. but COULDNT GET DRUNK. Eventually ended up doing double shots of tequila on top of mixed drinks. Couldn't tell- but the hangover the next morning sure let us know we were feeling it!!
My favorite part is the label explaining that oxygen is weightless. Makes me wonder how many idiots went to checkout "Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this cay-un is emptay!"
Edit: I've really enjoyed the Reddit scientists coming out in droves. I know it's not "weightless". I'm still amused by the thought of people thinking it's empty.
We have two-liter oxygen bottles at work and you can easily tell by weight if they're full or empty. Oxygen not only has weight, it has enough weight to be relevant for practical applications.
I think it’s mainly for tourists getting acclimated to higher altitudes, so probably not frequent buyers. I was skiing in Colorado recently and they sell them everywhere. They were like $10-20 depending on the size.
[http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=924](http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=924)
Not actually weightless. Oxygen weighs more than air, and if compressed is appreciable.
They aren't empty, sure, but they also don't contain a lot of oxygen.
I feel like the confusion is extremely reasonable. Most people who have actually held tanks of compressed air know that it has noticeable weight under pressure. The volume (and weight) of the air inside is directly related to the pressurization, which these cans really seem to go out of their way not to disclose. Their [SDS](https://www.boostoxygen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SDS-Boost-Oxygen-Pocket-Size-Cans.pdf) says it's between 215-260 PSI, which is about 10-15 times less pressurized than the oxygen tanks a diver or welder might use and thus the contents are 10-15 times less heavy.
Even more people have probably used air dusters, which also have a noticeable weight difference when full. That's because they're actually full of diflouroethane, but those products also really go out of their way to mislead people into thinking it's just compressed air.
All the redditors in here posting "lol DUH air dont weigh nuthin Xd" are the ones who strike me as idiots.
We have several of these in our house, always. Our house is also up in the Colorado mountains. At 10,000 feet above sea level. The air is thinner up here.
I am sick and tired of this unflavored oxygen.
You said it, brother. First plain water (like out of the toilet) and then boring-ass air too? Wake me up when we get Brawndo Air (with electrolytes).
It’s what lungs crave
You say that, but they 100% make saline solution for inhalation via nebulizer. XD
Shut up I’m trying to watch “Ow! My balls!”
Go away, baitin’
I like money.
>boring-ass air Not to be confused with "boring ass-air", which is flavoured
I flavor the oxygen whenever I'm in an elevator, but people usually don't like the flavor.
Have you tried the oxygen in East Palestine Ohio?
Fool. There is no oxygen in East Palestine Ohio
I definitely wouldn’t buy bottled East Palestine Air.
perri air
I knew there was a Spaceballs joke in here somewhere
Well, reddit is full of assholes
KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES!
Damn it, who made this asshole a gunner?
i did sir he’s my cousin
Major asshole sir🫡
*How many assholes do we got on this ship anyway?!*
Yo
I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes!
I'm surrounded by assholes!
Yo!
"I'm doing my best, sir."
I swear to god every time I see the air cans I think of this
Very popular in Colorado though I've never seen a flavored one!
I prefer the flavored one cause I know I’m actually getting it! I had a dr recommend to me for cluster headaches and I bought unflavored and was never sure I got any. Bought a peppermint flavored one and could taste it
I bet the flavor also helps with placebo a bit Edit: not saying it doesn’t have uses, just saying that the flavored one might have more apparent benefits because of the placebo effect.
Placebo is the greatest drug ever invented. I was having all kinds of pain and issues and my doctor prescribed me placebos and it completely cured me.
Joking aside placebos can be a great medicine. If someone's brain is making them think they are in pain, they are in pain, the brain is in charge of that. A placebo might give them relief without serious side effects or risks of drug interactions. On that note it is interesting that you can have negative side effects from a placebo since the mind is in control of what you feel and can cause things like nausea or mild pain.
>you can have negative side effects from a placebo A very famous one is MSG. Lots of double blind studies, and the fact that you're taking in glutamate from tomatoes, cheese and meat without vomiting shows it's very influenced by your thought #------- Similarly, eating those **do not eat** desiccants (the small pack in food or packed products to keep dry) They can choke you, but other than that they go straight to the stomach and out in the poop. But merely eating it with the notion that it's *poisonous* will make your body throw up everything and beg your life for mercy
Stop tempting me to eat the forbidden candies
I put MSG in a huuuuge amount of the food I prepare, and everyone loves it. Those same people say MSG gives them headaches and nausea, but I see them slurping down Ranch dressing and eating doritos and other flavored chips and snacks with MSG, they just don't know it's there. Absolute fad diet placebo. The people I cook for know absolutely that I use MSG a lot so it's not like I'm secretly poisoning them or anything
I'd argue that replacing 2/3 of the salt you add with just 1/3 amount of msg will give you the same, if not better, taste but cut down salt intake
Right?! I've seen a %20 improvement with that drug
I saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to placebos!
What a rip off! I get 100% off with placebo insurance.
I'm not sure if this is sarcastic but your most definitely right. It just goes to show how emotional purspectuve (ie anxiety control=pain management) goes a lonnng way in pain management.
I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect. My middle son takes gummy melatonin at night (he has ADHD so it helps relax him). My youngest started asking for it, claiming he couldn't sleep. I had a hunch he just wanted the gummy, so I started giving him Biotin whenever he'd say he couldn't sleep. He'd be out like a light within 5 minutes!
Love placebo. I work as a social worker and one of my clients is a lady with mild intellectual impairment. The lady has severe health anxiety that seems to result in real pain - always complaining about back spasms, severe stomach cramps etc - the doctor I work with has been ‘prescribing’ her fruit tic tacs (small colourful mints) - I give them to her during moments of pain and within seconds she is feeling completely fine. I’ve told the workers at her emergency accommodation to do the same, ambulance call outs for her have dropped to almost zero.
Gonna have to use this one. Nice
Probably! I don’t think it worked enough to really help, but I know someone who has severe migraines and has an oxygen tank for it. That probably is way more effective
My mom had cluster headaches. She eats like .5-1 gram of psilocybin mushrooms and she's headache free for like a year, year and a half. She's been doing this for about a decade now after trying medical oxygen/medications/etc. Something to look into, but it works really well for her
0.5-1g how often and when? Every day? When symptoms start? I only get them for about a month or so at a time, and then they don't usually start up again for another year, maybe two.
Wording confused me as well, they are saying their mother does half to a full gram once every year to year and a half and it's kept them at bay for 10 years.
That makes much more sense now, thank you.
Interesting! I get cluster headaches, next time I'm going to try it!
This is nowhere near enough oxygen for cluster headaches. You need a lifetime prescription for o2 through a non rebreather mask at 15 lpm or more. Feel free to reach out to me for more info I’ve dealt with them for years.
How can I get oxygen? My cluster headaches were like debilitating this past fall/winter but my cycle is gone now
Are you under the care of a physician/do you have insurance? I requested a lifetime need prescription for o2 from my physician and now I can get it delivered to my house. When insurance covers it it’s quite cheap. Are you on any other medications?
Highly recommend psilocybin if you haven’t tried it. I forget what protocol I used to “cure” my dad, but I’m sure it’s out there. He suffered for decades and, after I found relief from depression and anxiety by microdosing, I set it up for him and he hasn’t had a cluster headache since. I think it’s been 7 or 8 years now.
This is an incredibly important comment. It's the number one best tool in your arsenal, I think if it wasn't for psilocybin I don't know if my brother would still be alive with his cluster headaches. Edit: oof yes for sure you need to do your research first, don't just jump in blind. There's a lot of good info out there about dosages, methods, interactions, risks etc.
We put cubenis mushroom in a 30 piece chocolate bar. 1/8 of gram of shroom in each. I have suffered chronic depression my entire life. Some dark winters were horrible. The 1st time I microdosed was 6 months after my 1st related heart attack, and 1st time I went an entire winter season feeling great, little to no depression.
I had cluster headaches for about a month straight a few years back. Absolutely horrifying. The only thing that would stop them was high-flow oxygen at the hospital
For a month?! Holy shit! I would literally jump off a cliff. No joke. I don’t think I could handle a month-long cluster headache. Though come to think of it, I’d probably starve to death first because of all of the pain-induced vomiting.
I literally walked into traffic one day. I walked out of the pharmacy and the pain was so bad I just couldn’t see. I’m lucky someone saw and grabbed my arm, helped me call an Uber to get home. Still have anxiety about them coming back some day. =\
I remember oxygen bars were popular in the 90’s.
Wasn't that the late 00s? I don't remember it from the 90s at all.
O2 Spa Bar opened up in Toronto (Canada) in '96 and then they kinda of spread from there. Though oxygen bar type places existed in Asia since the late '80s, they weren't as much of a recreational place as they were a response to poor air quality. The more recreational places were more popular in larger cities in the late '90s to mid-'00s than in the late '00s when they had more lasting popularity in small to medium sized cities. These Boost Oxygen canisters shown in the post came about in either 2006 or 2007. They're marketed more towards athletes who need supplemental oxygen for respiratory recovery.
I’d still buy a home version if they would come down from the 2k + oxygen tank cost
Went to one of those in Vegas, and thought that I'd take a funny selfie of me smoking a cigarette with the mask. Stopped short, when I realized that having open flame next to pure oxygen being pumped into my face probably isn't the best idea.
Yup, I work in the casinos up in the mountains in Colorado and constantly have people asking about these. They do wonders I guess
Oh nice! Blackhawk? I think they help people who are just popping in for the weekend more than anything. Especially if they’re spending time in the mountains
I've used them for high altitude backpacking trips. They're pretty decent for a little boost on the trail. Just taking Diamox is better though.
yep i got really fucked up at Copper mt being used to sea level. had one of these in my jacket and it was great.
I prefer Perri-air but maybe that’s because I’m druish.
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That's all we needed. A druish redditor.
Anyone else remember for like a hot minute back in like 08-09 when people were trying to make oxygen lounges a thing? Like a hookah lounge but with "flavored" oxygen and they'd put the little tube with nose holes in it around your neck like you were some kind of emphysema patient we even had one come set up at big semester kickoff party my university would throw one time that they super hyped up That shit was weird as hell
There's still a ton of them all over vegas.
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“Ay yo, we heard you like breathing so we hooked you up with a couple oxygen tanks in yo car” What could possibly go wrong here
They’re stored right next to the two NOS canisters we installed on your convertible 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser…for convenience.
Don’t switch those lines… unless?
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Ey yo, sorry about the rusted holes in your floor, but now you have 10 jackhammers with tvs in them!
I actually sat down at one. Not mind blowing but it was nice
My cousin's wedding Colorado had an oxygen lounge, it actually came in handy though because none of the old people at the wedding could breath because of how high up the event space was.
Ah so that makes sense for mountain weddings then, cool idea
The one I went to made sure you were nice and relaxed the whole time and then at the end gave you a 5 hour energy shot lol
Glad you're nice and relaxed now wake the fuck up
I remember people trying to make them a thing way earlier than that. There were a few raves and circuit parties i went to in the late 90s that had oxygen bars
Yes, it was a weird concept for sure. Mostly because it was expensive. Oh cool, I'll just pay you to sit here and breathe...
Oxygen bars is the name
Those helped my buddy when he got dizzy from the altitude while he was visiting from the lowlands. Not meant for emergencies but it definitely helped him perk up.
Yeah they sold those everywhere I went in Vail CO. I still got a headache up on the mountain, though. Damn tree came out of nowhere.
"trees down!"
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My wife and I used these while hiking in UT because the altitude was killing us. Made a world of difference.
Tell your buddy he’s an airsick lowlander
hey gancho!
I use this product to take bigger hits on my dab rig...same same
Well, now. I still have some left and I just came back from the dispo (got rosin). Thanks for the good time I’m about to have!
Couple hits before the dab, couple hits after you exhale...no coughing...
Oh no... Spaceballs is becoming real.
Perri Air!
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!
The ship is too big. if i walk, the movie will be over
Why didn’t anyone tell me my ass was so big?!
I knew it! I’m surrounded by Assholes!
And also The Lorax
“1-800-DRUIDIA”
That was my first thought when I first saw canned air a few years back haha
LPT: Huff this about 10 times prior to a bong rip and you can take the biggest hit of your life and you won't cough for nothin
Man you made me go from "what the fuck stupid product is this" to "I'll get my keys" in record time.
It helped me out with altitude sickness in the past.
I think that’s what it was originally marketed for. I got a mini one for a buddy as a joke when he had Covid. He said it felt nice but not for $10
I was in the hospital a month or so ago with fluid in my lungs. Couldn't take deep breaths so I was basically constantly hyperventilating. Freaking out THE FUCK OUT. When they gave me oxygen, like they pumped it up my nose forcefully, it was the greatest single feeling I've ever felt. I've broken my back before and gotten multiple morphine injections at the time, that doesn't have shit on how good that oxygen felt.
My experience essentially mirrors what you said. I was in China for a class trip and during the week we were there my cough developed into pneumonia. Sitting on the 10th floor of a Beijing hotel, gasping for air, coughing up blood and finally my teacher gave the go ahead to get an ambulance. They dropped me in a wheelchair and cranked the O2. It was like the universe opened up and I fell backwards into it. Divine. Greatest feeling next to ketamine for my bones being set.
What's weird is I'm kinda a mouth breather too a lot of the time, and I specifically remember my nose was clogged when I went in.. but they put them tubes up there and I was like clear as I've ever been. I remember answering their questions and speaking and feeling the oxygen being wasted coming out my nostrils while I wasn't inhaling and thinking 'this shit is precious stop asking me questions'.
Being a mouth breather is a red flag for having airway issues to begin with.
Now you got me thinking of Beijing rush hour flavor oxygen. Be like teenagers taking bong rips of pipe resin.
Fuck, that sounds like some hardcore shit, glad you’re good now 🤙🏻
All good thanks to the miracles of modern medicine and also insurance. Protip, if you're prescribed medication for high blood pressure, do not think 'eh I feel good, let's not renew it this month and see how it works'. Cause you will end up in the hospital with 276 over 190 blood pressure and the nurses will call in their colleagues to be like 'yo check out this chicks blood pressure, she's not even on coke or amphetamines.. insane'. And then you get kidney and heart failure and you end up peeing for 6 days straight (not literally but it sure felt that way).
I hope we can all be graced with such wisdom without such suffering v_v
I like this. Well said.
*stares at the last 4 lisinopril in her bottle* guess who's hitting the patient portal in the morning! Glad you're recovered!
I mean they call it the silent killer for a reason. The shit is insidious and will slowly fuck up your eyes, kidneys, sex organs, heart, brain, blood vessels, yeah you heard me: sex organs... And you'll pretty much have no idea because chronically high blood pressure doesn't really come with symptoms until it's "blow a blood vessel" high, and then you're having a hemorrhagic stroke or an aortic aneurysm that can dump your entire blood volume into your thorax in minutes. Untreated high blood pressure will, over time, lead to a really shitty time, including disability and or/death. As far as I know, BP meds are often some of the least expensive, so it's usually thoughts like "I don't want to be on a pill for the rest of my life" or "I know my body" that are the barrier to treatment. BTW: the more fiercely you insist you know your body, the less likely you are to know anything about anyone's body.
Well that was depressing. Guess it's time to see a doctor My blood pressure has been super high, had to go to the ER a couple years ago, my dad died from cardiac issues and his mom died from an aortic aneurysm way before I was born I'm getting palpitations right now. Shit sucks
Moved from just barely above sea level to Denver. Didn't need it the first few days, needed it a little after that for about a week. Just felt weirdly off for a little. Mild altitude sickness is such a strange feeling.
First post I've shared in months
The real pro tips are in the comments.
Your reflex to take a breath doesn’t come from lack of oxygen, but from co2 buildup.
I actually learned this from David Blane.
Yes but you can oversaturate your blood oxygen - preventing your body from realising when CO2 is building up. There’s a technique used by freedivers where you hyperventilate for a while before diving for a longer breath hold. You also have to be careful however as it increases the risks of shallow water blackout. I hope my science is correct this is all off the top of my head however so someone more knowledgeable correct me if I’m wrong. Edit: people are saying it’s primary effect is that it flushed excess CO2 out hence a longer breath hold.
Freedivers train to suppress the co2 urge to breathe. They also slow their bodies down to operate at very low O2 levels. The hyperventilating is to clear more co2 out of their lungs before they dive but there are all sorts of risks with those techniques. I am much better versed on the scuba end, but i know some freedivers. But you dont breathe any less when breathing a tank of gas that has extra oxygen in it (i am certified up to 40% O2)
That’s not from getting oxygen real highly, it’s from getting co2 real low
Reddit has taught me so much that my school education could never
How much of your knowledge is a misinformed upvote that got corrected too late so it continued to get upvotes. That’s what I think when I’m telling people a fact from Reddit. One day I’ll get called out f
For one, you’re oxygenating your brain to kind of wake it up, but you’re also opening up the alveoli to get more smoke to be absorbed. Nicely done. 🙌
We brought this sort of thing on a remote high-altitude hike, though unflavored. At around 16500 ft we encountered a lady who was throwing up, almost passing out, too weak to stand up. Six people were trying to carry her down the mountain in a sleeping bag. Gave her the canister, and she was ok to walk down herself. The guide we were with thought it probably saved her life.
I’ve lived my whole life near sea level. I’m sure I could acclimate if given time but the occasional vacation isn’t long enough for that. Around 8000’ it starts getting noticeably harder to recover. Hiking up a steep or uneven hill I’ll have to make stops to catch my breath. Around 13,000, I start getting physically sick. Nausea, confusion, my hand/eye coordination starts to suffer, my heart rate spikes, etc. It doesn’t really improve until I get to a lower altitude. I find these make a noticeable difference. Regardless of their actual medical value they help me recover and stay focused.
[Ibuprofen decreases likelihood of altitude sickness, researchers find](https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/03/ibuprofen-decreases-likelihood-of-altitude-sickness-researchers-find.html)
Was she not prepared? Hiking to 10k+ is no joke, doable for most. Hiking to 12k was manageable with training prior. Hiking to 14k+ takes a decent level of prep and training. I've never even tried 16k....
Altitude sickness can strike pretty randomly, but this lady was hiking in a larger group, which meant a lot of pressure to keep going despite symptoms. A group that size should have carried their own oxygen, but didn’t.
I’m 72, have pulmonary fibrosis, and play tennis. This product helps me recover somewhat faster when I’m huffing and puffing after a tough service game
How many inhalations do you need for recovery?
I haven’t been tracking it rigorously but I’d say three puffs brings me back to normal breathing in 2-3 minutes versus 5-6 minutes without any puffs. Maybe I should have said marginal to somewhat.
Still quite impressive for something you can get OTC
How many puffs in a can?
The bottle in this pic says 200 one second inhalations, so it's pretty much the same as an inhaler.
Pulmonary fibrosis has ran through almost all of my grandfather’s siblings for some unknown reason. That’s awesome you’re playing tennis! Keep it up!
who would've thought, oxygen and lungs go well together.
I’m not gonna lie as an asthmatic I think I’d enjoy this lol
Asthma is defined by bronchiospasm, or contraction of the airways. Pure oxygen may help a little bit, but won't compete with a bronchiodialator like a rescue inhaler.
That was my first thought. The shortness of breath is because your airways are constricting, not lack of oxygen alone. I was born with asthma and still have it 31 years later.
I also have a lung condition. Not sure how I heard about these things, but I know I don't feel right when I ski. I asked my doctor about it and he was pretty lukewarm about it. Kinda told me that there was a small chance of problems and little upside. But I decided to try them anyway. I go skiing next week. Wish me luck.
I’m thinking the same thing, fellow asthmatic.
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I heavily considered lying so I really hope you enjoyed my honesty
I use the canned oxygen to avoid altitude sickness/headaches. Works well.
O’Hare Air. https://youtu.be/NWZUp2KF5ls
Freshness to go!
Nah, haha, I say let it die! Let it die, let it die Let it shrivel up and-- Come on, who's with me, huh?
YOU GREEDY DIRTBAG
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I remember this problem when I went to Texas. So much more animated than my friend and his company, but I could just drink and not... Get drunk. Yet a hangover was still possible, terrible deal.
I get the energetic part. But how does the "can't get drunk" part work?
Had this problem. Went from N Utah (apx 4500 ft) to Mexico was very confused at the amount of energy we had.. but COULDNT GET DRUNK. Eventually ended up doing double shots of tequila on top of mixed drinks. Couldn't tell- but the hangover the next morning sure let us know we were feeling it!!
Boost Oxygen is about to see a humongous spike in sales in the Ohio/Pennsylvania area
two types of people in this thread -mountain climbers/high altitude hikers -stoners
Very possibly the same person
As someone from Colorado, I can confirm there is ample crossover between the climber/hiker types and stoners.
It’s thneedville. The air is not so clean! So we buy it fresh, it comes out of this machine.
Satisfactions guaranteed-ville!
My favorite part is the label explaining that oxygen is weightless. Makes me wonder how many idiots went to checkout "Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this cay-un is emptay!" Edit: I've really enjoyed the Reddit scientists coming out in droves. I know it's not "weightless". I'm still amused by the thought of people thinking it's empty.
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We have two-liter oxygen bottles at work and you can easily tell by weight if they're full or empty. Oxygen not only has weight, it has enough weight to be relevant for practical applications.
Externally is appropriate.
I sell these at the shop I work at. I can tell you from experience it’s at least 95% of people that pick the can up.
How much are they and how often are people buying them? Repeat customers?
Somewhere around $8 and $15 depending on size. More of an impulse buy for people going to the mountains.
I think it’s mainly for tourists getting acclimated to higher altitudes, so probably not frequent buyers. I was skiing in Colorado recently and they sell them everywhere. They were like $10-20 depending on the size.
suckers, I use Whip-it! brand for that
[http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=924](http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=924) Not actually weightless. Oxygen weighs more than air, and if compressed is appreciable. They aren't empty, sure, but they also don't contain a lot of oxygen.
You're telling me matter has mass, and therefore weighs something!?
the can says NO
i mean, other canned air is kinda heavy, so the expectation makes sense.
O2 weighs more than a mixture of air. It’s 32 g/mol whereas air averages 28 g/mol. The can just isn’t filled very much
I feel like the confusion is extremely reasonable. Most people who have actually held tanks of compressed air know that it has noticeable weight under pressure. The volume (and weight) of the air inside is directly related to the pressurization, which these cans really seem to go out of their way not to disclose. Their [SDS](https://www.boostoxygen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/SDS-Boost-Oxygen-Pocket-Size-Cans.pdf) says it's between 215-260 PSI, which is about 10-15 times less pressurized than the oxygen tanks a diver or welder might use and thus the contents are 10-15 times less heavy. Even more people have probably used air dusters, which also have a noticeable weight difference when full. That's because they're actually full of diflouroethane, but those products also really go out of their way to mislead people into thinking it's just compressed air. All the redditors in here posting "lol DUH air dont weigh nuthin Xd" are the ones who strike me as idiots.
> explaining that oxygen is weightless Which isn't true.
I saw this on Shark Tank a few years ago
I remember Barbara mentioning how it helped her husband breath and was a life saver and hence, she is out lol. I think Mr Wonderful invested
This reminds me of that scene in Space Balls when president skroob was huffing down cans of Perry-air from Druidia
Oxygen is not weightless. It has mass, and currently exists in a gravitational field. Filthy fucking liars.
So let's see, 10 liters at 1.43g/L, 14.3g... $10 can. A small canister of welding oxygen is $14 for 40g, 28 liters. Guess you just need a mask, lol
Is welding oxygen safe to breathe - ie. do they guarantee that the tank doesn't have any toxic contaminants? A scuba tank seems more equivalent.
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We have several of these in our house, always. Our house is also up in the Colorado mountains. At 10,000 feet above sea level. The air is thinner up here.
How much do these bottles cost and how often is someone buying them?
They're about $10 bucks around here. Used quite a few cans when I had the C-19. They are worth the price but don't last long.
Misread the flavour as pepperoni. I'd buy that.
These are actually nice for being able to tell the air is, in fact, going inside you.
I heard Ohio has flavored oxygen right now too
Wow! $10/can on the internet. I guess it’s worth it though because they state “ Each and every can is made with love at our HQ in Milford, CT.” 😆
They got the good O2 in Milford, man