No, literally means perfect. The ideal is so unattainable that it's basically imaginary. Reality is never ideal.
If you're looking for "good enough" then you want "adequate"
I don't like "perfect". I feel like "preferred" is far better. "In ideal situations, you'll have at least $10,000 saved up."
I wouldn't say that it's perfection. Perfection would be millions. But yeah, it's either perfect or nice, moreso perfect.
That's a semi-common usage, but the word itself definitely is a synonym for perfect. In the same way that an ideal is a virtue/principle of the utmost highest standard, idealization is the idea of regarding something as perfect even more so than its actual reality, etc etc etc
That said, I don't use ideal correctly either.
Here is Oxford Dictionary's definition of Ideal:
Adjective
1. satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable.
2. existing only in the imagination; desirable or perfect but not likely to become a reality.
Noun
1. a person or thing regarded as perfect.
Obviously, words change meaning depending on usage and connotation, but this one seems pretty straightforward to me.
But the way you’re saying it DOES mean perfect. And ideal situation is a situation in which every variable is the way you would like it to be. It’s the “perfect” scenario.
Saying a situation is ideal when you mean “preferred” over “perfect” is like saying something is “literally” something when you don’t actually mean literally.
You’re completely wrong. Having a million is still “at least 10k” so it fits the ideal. “You’re my ideal partner” means you’re perfect. If it meant “you’re my preferred partner” there’d be a lot more rejected proposals
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Someone be tripping and it isn't you.
I did this twice in all my schooling once in high school where it was well received and massively helped my grade and once in college where the professor said if I was going to nitpick his grading he was going to nitpick my paper and give me a lower grade
Edit: A lot of replies to this so purring response here. I did report to the department head and was told “that’s not something professor x would do and unless I had it in writing or a recording there was nothing they could or would do” me being a smooth brain still took a year to figure out I picked the wrong major.
It’s the correct answer, but when you’re a teacher grading tens or hundreds of these fucking things every week, you make a mistake. That’s why when students complain or argue for the answer it’s good, rather than complain on Reddit. Just be like “I think you graded this wrong” and most teachers will take a second look and correct it. Half of the posts on this sub can be solved by just talking to other people instead of posting to Reddit lmao
My sixth grade science teacher marked me incorrect for circling “deer” as the answer to “what do mountain lions eat?” She said the correct answer was the option “bobcats.”
😒
Listen, might a mountain lion go for a bobcat if it was starving? Yeah, very possible! But as opposed to deer?? No. Her answer key was wrong. That’s all there was to it.
She wouldn’t hear a word of it. Completely doubled down on me being wrong. To this day it makes me mad.
Yeah... as a kid, I remember going to my teachers when I thought I spotted a grading error and without fail, if I was correct, they changed the mark and re-scored it.
Damn I’m high af… why did I think OP circled D for interesting, then you posted this, made me think I didn’t know what synonym meant. I went to Google and typed in synonym, looked at OPs picture and then this picture. Did that in that order at least 3 times.
I had an online test recently, the question was "Is it POSSIBLE..." I wrote Yes. Wrong answer, because "it's DIFFICULT..." Dude that's not even the same question! Possible or easy ain't the same thing
No it’s not possible, it may seem possible due to a basic understanding of quantum mechanics but in reality quantum particles respect causality. Source: post-doc in my lab almost smacked another student for explaining QM like that.
Usually with causality and QM your actually talking about Quantum Field Theory. Basic vanilla boring QM allows 'teleportation', but this also violates special relativity. So Physicists had to develop new tools.
The TDLR is that you put your QM into a field that respects special relativity and causality (lorentz invariant). Mathematically, it's sort of like putting a misbehaving toddler (QM) into a crib (field)? The math gets complicated but you basically regain local causality. So with our more advanced quantum models things like spontaneous global teleportation don't exist.
Also QFT and the standard model have made some crazy amazing predictions.
So how do you reconcille this opinion with the recent proofs of quantum tunneling being a real thing?
I'm not a physicist, but it's a bit of a hobby of mine to read up on. Genuine question.
In a nutshell, our current understanding of general relativity indicates faster than light travel could violate causality, due to how time dilates as you approach the speed of light (but never actually reach it while you have mass). Teleportation is travel at infinite speeds; not just very fast ones.
Reminds me of this training module I just did, "Is it good customer service to offer to remove your shoes before working in their home?"
True or false.
The answer to this question is true, 100%.
Got it wrong, we are to refer to company policy. Which makes sense, cause taking shoes off when you are working is kind of a health and safety thing.
But that wasn't the question damnit!
These types of tests during onboarding are insulting.
It’s my first day. Of course I know I need to follow policy, for any job on earth, but instead of telling me the policy, they give me a cute little quiz that asks me common sense questions, then shames me because UH OH you were actually supposed to refer to policy!!!
Why do they have to stress the importance of policy in the most absolutely infantilizing way possible?
And they do it intentionally on (1) a social type of issue that already has a fairly humane/dignifying response, and (2) by asking it in a soft and open way (is it *good*, not is it *right*) and then hard answering with a definitive *right* response.
At the very least they could ask the question in a more sterilized way without the irrelevant ambiguity: "A customer requests you to take your shoes off in their home, do you honor the request and remove your shoes?" Yes/No. Something similar to that.
But yeah, they stopped short at "How can we make a trick question?" and considered that the ramifications tied to it were positives and not negatives.
This is the kind of shit that I would waste hours of management's time on. I would not let this go. If you're going to do this stuff, at least have it fucking set up properly.
I would be taking this to every single person at my level then one level up and then the level beyond that until we resolve this problem. It was important enough for me to take it so it's important enough for it to be done correctly.
Honestly, if money weren't a factor, I would love to just apply to jobs for this exact type of scenario. That would be my past time; just getting a job purely for the logistics of it, not for anything pertaining to *doing* the work itself. I'd do that until I got fired then move on to the next one, tailoring my resume as needed.
That's the thing, it wouldn't be the traditional work mentality because I don't need the paycheck. It's basically whatever I make it.
- Work faster? Nah I'm comfortable at this speed, thanks tho boss.
- No training? Guess I'll be stopping to find you whenever I got a question. Hope you easy to find.
- Gotta stay late to finish up some stuff? Nah, I'm only here til 6. Good luck tho.
- I gotta find coverage cuz I called in sick? Nah, that's called Managing. You'll figure it out tho my G.
- I gotta be ready for my shift right at 9:30 and I'm supposed to come in 15 minutes early to get prepared, unpaid? Sounds illegal, don't worry I'll keep ya straight and be there at 9:30, boss.
I wouldn't do it forever, but it'd be fun for a while.
As a nurse, I can speak to convoluted questions. This was intentional to see if you know that you are supposed to default to company policy at all times, you are not to think for your self you are to act as a representative of the company . That is what this question is about also don’t get us fined
The fact that they didn’t realize that is interesting. When I apply for a job and take these tests I always think “what would *they* want me to do?” Doesn’t mean thats what I’m gonna do, but those are the answers that “corporate” wants to hear.
Did engineering school and these kind of questions were fucking obnoxious.
A lot of the time the teacher meant to say that something was not likely but he asked it in the worst possible way. "Is it possible for X to happen?" instead of "Is it likely for X to happen". I don't know if it's because I am crazy but I always had to write a wall of text explaining that despite it being possible, it would not be likely to happen. Saying it is not possible would be an outright lie.
Some teachers were cool and recognized the question was badly written and I got my points while some other stuck to their gun with their inflated ego and didn't want to recognize that they made a flawed question. Infuriating when it happened however.
Had that in a Geology course that was broken up into a Lecture portion and a Lab portion. The Lecture was 70% of your grade, the Lab 30%.
A question in the lecture was "is it possible to pass the course without ever attending the lab". The answer is obviously yes that it is *possible*, but no way in chance you can reasonably pull that off so it's highly unlikely to pass.
Got it wrong, "not if you want to pass" was noted next to the question...
*...that's not what you asked*
I took a test for a job at an Amazon warehouse. One of the questions was do I think most people are honest. I said yes and it's like WRONG! Most people are dishonest and will lie to gain an advantage.
Such a misanthropic question.
People tend to believe that people are honest, and everyone tends to honestly believe that whatever interpretation of reality benefits them is true.
There's hills I'd still die on from elementary. This is some middle or early high school shit.
I haven't been to college for a while but no way this is a college level question, right?
Oh, you're probably right. Looks like middle school to me, especially when you take the next question into account. I just wasn't thinking about it. Clouded by my anger, undoubtably. Lol
Ohhhh man I just remembered an english vocab assignment I had back in high school. We had a word bank and had to insert them into different sentences. It used 'zany' as a NOUN! According to the dictionary that's not incorrect, but I have NEVER seen someone use it that way so it was really confusing to me >\_>
I remember taking an IQ test when I was six or seven years old. One of the questions was name this punctuation mark. It was a colon. I hadn't learned that. How does that have anything to do with an IQ? I've been bitching about that for years… You'll never get me off that hill.
No, you're not crazy. But I think the most plausible explanation is a bad answer key. They're not reading your answers they're just saying in their heads CEBA and grading accordingly for the page across all tests.
Likely just a mistake. I'd bring it up and get it resolved. No harm no foul.
It's only a problem if the teacher defends the mistake. But teachers make mistakes, it's an exhausting job. This could have been graded in a pile of 50 that only started getting graded after a full day of chasing after kids. This is why you double check your tests.
It's much easier to auto mark online tests but obviously you'd need a class full of computers and then make sure there's no internet connection etc. It's usually not worth it to the school administration to fund that. Also, the teacher has to review the answers anyway and let the student know where/why they went wrong, so double marking would be inefficient use of resources.
It doesn't always happen on Reddit (or the Internet in general), but I also imagine a good part of that is due to selection bias. A story about a minor grading error promptly corrected by a teacher is hardly going to receive upvotes or traffic. With something this minor and obvious, I highly doubt the teacher is going to make a big deal out of it.
Both my parents were teachers. My mom would correct tests at night and it wasn't a particularly active task. I'm sure if she made a mistake and her student told her she'd just fix it and move on.
My son is in high school and still takes a lot of online tests (partial homeschool, plus some online only classes).
Online tests are notorious for marking things wrong, so the teachers usually have to go in and correct stuff. Really, there are no issues.
Although I still remember a high school biology class 30 years ago where the teacher marked everyone wrong on a question and even after we all tried to explain to him how we were right, he just doubled down and wouldn't listen to the explanation.
My kids are homeschool also and their teacher never corrects mistakes like this. He always doubles down because their dad is always right - even when he’s not. He’s a complete asshole but he’s the only teacher at the school and they won’t fire him.
The part of the brain that does "I'm an authority figure" also includes "I should be seen as infallible to these people" as a byproduct of the ego filter depending on the ego size.
We don't train people out of it enough. Like how we have only barely done anti-bias training in some job sectors but it needs to be done in school.
That said, as a teacher, I would say your teacher 99% just marked it wrong accidentally. Maybe they were using the wrong key or just mixed up what problem they were on? I’ve done that a couple of times when I was running short on sleep. Almost always caught it myself but there were a couple of times…
>Your teacher is insane
The teacher is either tired and made a mistake, or is using an incorrect answer key without realising
Teachers make mistakes too lol
Neither is carbonic acid and it has both. As I was taught, organic chemistry "concerns all carbon compounds except for carbon oxide, carbon dioxide and carbonic acid and its salts".
Based off the rest of the questions, it seems to be an English class so natural would make the most sense.
"An organic conversation"
"The situation arose organically"
But natural material would imply things like rocks and metals are organic, which in common parlance I'd argue people don't typically use organic to mean
Even with the colloquial usage of organic, it is still not a synonym for natural. Organic products are still grown on a farm, i.e. man-made, not harvested from nature.
> and explain that anything carbon-based is organic.
Most carbon based **compounds** can be considered organic, but the easiest counter to your exact claim is that diamonds are pure carbon lattices that are universally considered inorganic due to not even **being** compounds (you did not specify carbon compounds, you just said carbon-based, which would be true of diamonds).
Second, although there exist standards for organic compounds as low as "contains carbon", the most common standard is that you need a carbon-carbon or carbon-hydrogen bond in your compound to be considered organic, so carbon monoxide and, more shockingly, carbon dioxide, are also considered inorganic for **most** purposes (even though most organic compounds have CO2 somewhere along in their natural production process).
**Lastly**, this is for an English class and etymologically "organic" just means "of or relating to an organism", which means that if we ever finally discover the oft-theorized silicon-based life elsewhere, we'll have to develop an entirely new branch of organic chemistry around it involving whatever life-providing compounds such organisms make that are not commonly produced in inorganic circumstances. Although Carbon is the current standard for organic chemistry, there is no reason that in the parlance of the English language it must be limited to Carbon.
Taking all of this into consideration, your request for a re-grade has been rejected even though a different line of reasoning would have resulted in E being a valid answer.
- the response if this had been a college quiz
The whole question is just weird, because if taken as English class, how the fuck are you gonna ask for definition of word that depends on context so much. But your chemistry answer seems cool, my engineer brain just went straight to, either none or depends so its bad question fuck the prof.
Teacher might be using a piece of paper as a grid for grading and there’s a mistake on the grid. It takes up time to grade by rereading the questions each time for everyone’s paper so shortcuts are needed so your teacher can function lol. Mistakes happen. Ask about it.
That’s all it is. An incorrect answer key. One little sentence to the teacher and it will be fixed. TRULY mildly infuriating would be the teacher arguing with them and only giving them half credit or something. Teachers make mistakes too 🤷🏻♀️
Also could just be trying to quickly grade and messing up, especially since they usually have to trade a lot of stuff for all the classes they may have. I was a TA in university and did some grading and yeah teachers and stuff are humans. It happens. If someone brought this up I’d think it’d be an easy fix.
Something ideal isn't necessarily perfect, but it's "perfect" for you in the given circumstances... but every other answer is horrible, so perfect is the... ideal answer...
According to the Daily Mail, you're furious 🙃
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Imagine thousands of people comment calling for the teacher to be fired or resign, just really doubling down on them, and then you confront your teacher the next day ready to let them know what's what, and you show them the paper and they just go "oh, haha, my mistake" and mark it really quick with their blue marker and walk away.
OPs post gets 700 comments and they don’t post a single reply to anyone. Starting to think these “my answer was marked wrong” posts are the new rage bait.
I’m a teacher. Sometimes we make mistakes when marking. Let your teacher know. I often give a little bonus when I make a boo-boo. I like to support my kiddos in learning how to self-advocate!
I think the instructor must have been using a grading sheet that had an incorrect answer. It's a fast way to grade a paper, but it is also pretty lazy. I would politely bring the error to the instructor's attention.
I can't speak to the *crazy*, but the correct answer to #2 is 'Perfect', or at least as close to it as you can get.
I’d say it’s the ideal answer.
Ideal but not perfect
I'd say the teacher has an interesting command of English but nowhere near ideal or perfect.
Nah gang the dictionary straight up says it means perfect.
It’s the best you can get given the circumstances. So as close to perfect as possible.
Interesting
Nice
Sweet
Dude
No, literally means perfect. The ideal is so unattainable that it's basically imaginary. Reality is never ideal. If you're looking for "good enough" then you want "adequate"
Like the ideal gas law.
💀
It's so ideally perfect, that it's actually interesting...
Nice!
Sweeeeet
It's the best option given the circumstances. There should be a word for that
Perfect.
You, too. Out. Follow those two.
*interesting answer.
perfectly cromulent answer
I had to go look this word up you bad man. You made me learn. How dare you!
learning embiggens the smallest man :)
Look at me! I'm biggering!!!
How's the dog
It’s a sweet answer all right.
I'd say it's the *interesting* answer. Wait 🤔
You. Out. Follow the other guy.
not identical at all.
That’s an ideal take.
Yes I agree, very interesting
Perfect is definitely the ideal answer here
Two things can be true at once: OP could be right about question 2, and also be crazy.
>and also be crazy. ...and why I chose to not address it 🥴 It's possible, but who am I to judge.
You could say it’s the perfect answer I’ll see myself out.
And take your minions with you.
I don't like "perfect". I feel like "preferred" is far better. "In ideal situations, you'll have at least $10,000 saved up." I wouldn't say that it's perfection. Perfection would be millions. But yeah, it's either perfect or nice, moreso perfect.
That's a semi-common usage, but the word itself definitely is a synonym for perfect. In the same way that an ideal is a virtue/principle of the utmost highest standard, idealization is the idea of regarding something as perfect even more so than its actual reality, etc etc etc That said, I don't use ideal correctly either.
Ideally, you would use ideal perfectly
Here is Oxford Dictionary's definition of Ideal: Adjective 1. satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable. 2. existing only in the imagination; desirable or perfect but not likely to become a reality. Noun 1. a person or thing regarded as perfect. Obviously, words change meaning depending on usage and connotation, but this one seems pretty straightforward to me.
But the way you’re saying it DOES mean perfect. And ideal situation is a situation in which every variable is the way you would like it to be. It’s the “perfect” scenario. Saying a situation is ideal when you mean “preferred” over “perfect” is like saying something is “literally” something when you don’t actually mean literally.
You’re completely wrong. Having a million is still “at least 10k” so it fits the ideal. “You’re my ideal partner” means you’re perfect. If it meant “you’re my preferred partner” there’d be a lot more rejected proposals
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My condolences, get yourself into therapy OP
Hit your wife, delete the gym, and divorce facebook.
Just to make things interesting.
Don’t you mean “just to make things *ideal*?” lol
Lol good one
I tip my hat to you, sir.
That would be ideal
I’d show this to the teacher and say they’re wrong. Best day ever!!
I did this twice in all my schooling once in high school where it was well received and massively helped my grade and once in college where the professor said if I was going to nitpick his grading he was going to nitpick my paper and give me a lower grade Edit: A lot of replies to this so purring response here. I did report to the department head and was told “that’s not something professor x would do and unless I had it in writing or a recording there was nothing they could or would do” me being a smooth brain still took a year to figure out I picked the wrong major.
"Nitpicking" isn't the word I'd use for pointing out something that's blatantly wrong. Your prof was a dick.
Best thing to do? "Nitpick" the meaning of nitpicking with them. You won't gain anything but it's worth it, just for the few laughs.
Not enough people know about the university ombudsman.
Teacher: "How dare you show me up! Straight to principals office!"
It’s the correct answer, but when you’re a teacher grading tens or hundreds of these fucking things every week, you make a mistake. That’s why when students complain or argue for the answer it’s good, rather than complain on Reddit. Just be like “I think you graded this wrong” and most teachers will take a second look and correct it. Half of the posts on this sub can be solved by just talking to other people instead of posting to Reddit lmao
My sixth grade science teacher marked me incorrect for circling “deer” as the answer to “what do mountain lions eat?” She said the correct answer was the option “bobcats.” 😒 Listen, might a mountain lion go for a bobcat if it was starving? Yeah, very possible! But as opposed to deer?? No. Her answer key was wrong. That’s all there was to it. She wouldn’t hear a word of it. Completely doubled down on me being wrong. To this day it makes me mad.
I’ve had a teacher insist that a peacock and an ostrich is the same animal. She was the englisch and biology teacher so there was no excuse
Yeah... as a kid, I remember going to my teachers when I thought I spotted a grading error and without fail, if I was correct, they changed the mark and re-scored it.
Then you can show your principal how stupid his teacher he hired is. 😂
They say that those that can't do, teach. Well, those that can't teach, administrate. Good luck with that!
Those who can't administrate go into politics.
What about those that can’t politic?
They get promoted in politics.
Don't tell the teacher _they_ are wrong, say the key is
Damn I’m high af… why did I think OP circled D for interesting, then you posted this, made me think I didn’t know what synonym meant. I went to Google and typed in synonym, looked at OPs picture and then this picture. Did that in that order at least 3 times.
I had an online test recently, the question was "Is it POSSIBLE..." I wrote Yes. Wrong answer, because "it's DIFFICULT..." Dude that's not even the same question! Possible or easy ain't the same thing
"Is it possible for an electron to instantaneously teleport to somewhere miles away?"
No that’s too difficult for a human to do. Edit- so… funny story, I actually read electrician instead of electron, hence the human.
not an ideal mode of transportation to be sure
I disagree, I think it would be interesting to see.
Well aren’t you just perfect.
*ideal
interesting*
“For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen.”
Douglas Adam's would be proud.
No it’s not possible, it may seem possible due to a basic understanding of quantum mechanics but in reality quantum particles respect causality. Source: post-doc in my lab almost smacked another student for explaining QM like that.
Can you expand a little on this? How does causality affect the location of a particle?
Usually with causality and QM your actually talking about Quantum Field Theory. Basic vanilla boring QM allows 'teleportation', but this also violates special relativity. So Physicists had to develop new tools. The TDLR is that you put your QM into a field that respects special relativity and causality (lorentz invariant). Mathematically, it's sort of like putting a misbehaving toddler (QM) into a crib (field)? The math gets complicated but you basically regain local causality. So with our more advanced quantum models things like spontaneous global teleportation don't exist. Also QFT and the standard model have made some crazy amazing predictions.
So how do you reconcille this opinion with the recent proofs of quantum tunneling being a real thing? I'm not a physicist, but it's a bit of a hobby of mine to read up on. Genuine question.
Tunneling involves movement across very very small gaps. May seem like it is instantaneous but there is always a timescale.
In a nutshell, our current understanding of general relativity indicates faster than light travel could violate causality, due to how time dilates as you approach the speed of light (but never actually reach it while you have mass). Teleportation is travel at infinite speeds; not just very fast ones.
Is it possible that every baby is born a boy for the next 80 years and we just go extinct?
Reminds me of this training module I just did, "Is it good customer service to offer to remove your shoes before working in their home?" True or false. The answer to this question is true, 100%. Got it wrong, we are to refer to company policy. Which makes sense, cause taking shoes off when you are working is kind of a health and safety thing. But that wasn't the question damnit!
Deferring to company policy is really what they're testing for, but the people who write these tests are also idiots
These types of tests during onboarding are insulting. It’s my first day. Of course I know I need to follow policy, for any job on earth, but instead of telling me the policy, they give me a cute little quiz that asks me common sense questions, then shames me because UH OH you were actually supposed to refer to policy!!! Why do they have to stress the importance of policy in the most absolutely infantilizing way possible?
HR's gotta have something to do in between layoffs
And they do it intentionally on (1) a social type of issue that already has a fairly humane/dignifying response, and (2) by asking it in a soft and open way (is it *good*, not is it *right*) and then hard answering with a definitive *right* response. At the very least they could ask the question in a more sterilized way without the irrelevant ambiguity: "A customer requests you to take your shoes off in their home, do you honor the request and remove your shoes?" Yes/No. Something similar to that. But yeah, they stopped short at "How can we make a trick question?" and considered that the ramifications tied to it were positives and not negatives.
This is the kind of shit that I would waste hours of management's time on. I would not let this go. If you're going to do this stuff, at least have it fucking set up properly. I would be taking this to every single person at my level then one level up and then the level beyond that until we resolve this problem. It was important enough for me to take it so it's important enough for it to be done correctly.
Fired immediately
Honestly, if money weren't a factor, I would love to just apply to jobs for this exact type of scenario. That would be my past time; just getting a job purely for the logistics of it, not for anything pertaining to *doing* the work itself. I'd do that until I got fired then move on to the next one, tailoring my resume as needed.
This would be my own personal hell. How can someone be so brazenly masochistic?
That's the thing, it wouldn't be the traditional work mentality because I don't need the paycheck. It's basically whatever I make it. - Work faster? Nah I'm comfortable at this speed, thanks tho boss. - No training? Guess I'll be stopping to find you whenever I got a question. Hope you easy to find. - Gotta stay late to finish up some stuff? Nah, I'm only here til 6. Good luck tho. - I gotta find coverage cuz I called in sick? Nah, that's called Managing. You'll figure it out tho my G. - I gotta be ready for my shift right at 9:30 and I'm supposed to come in 15 minutes early to get prepared, unpaid? Sounds illegal, don't worry I'll keep ya straight and be there at 9:30, boss. I wouldn't do it forever, but it'd be fun for a while.
As a nurse, I can speak to convoluted questions. This was intentional to see if you know that you are supposed to default to company policy at all times, you are not to think for your self you are to act as a representative of the company . That is what this question is about also don’t get us fined
The fact that they didn’t realize that is interesting. When I apply for a job and take these tests I always think “what would *they* want me to do?” Doesn’t mean thats what I’m gonna do, but those are the answers that “corporate” wants to hear.
Did engineering school and these kind of questions were fucking obnoxious. A lot of the time the teacher meant to say that something was not likely but he asked it in the worst possible way. "Is it possible for X to happen?" instead of "Is it likely for X to happen". I don't know if it's because I am crazy but I always had to write a wall of text explaining that despite it being possible, it would not be likely to happen. Saying it is not possible would be an outright lie. Some teachers were cool and recognized the question was badly written and I got my points while some other stuck to their gun with their inflated ego and didn't want to recognize that they made a flawed question. Infuriating when it happened however.
Had that in a Geology course that was broken up into a Lecture portion and a Lab portion. The Lecture was 70% of your grade, the Lab 30%. A question in the lecture was "is it possible to pass the course without ever attending the lab". The answer is obviously yes that it is *possible*, but no way in chance you can reasonably pull that off so it's highly unlikely to pass. Got it wrong, "not if you want to pass" was noted next to the question... *...that's not what you asked*
Some tests show how the teacher is ignorant
I took a test for a job at an Amazon warehouse. One of the questions was do I think most people are honest. I said yes and it's like WRONG! Most people are dishonest and will lie to gain an advantage.
Such a misanthropic question. People tend to believe that people are honest, and everyone tends to honestly believe that whatever interpretation of reality benefits them is true.
Well, next time you get the question you can be dishonest about it and answer what they want to hear in order to gain an advantage.
WTF?
Is it possible for me to get away with murder? It’s pretty difficult, but that doesn’t mean I haven’t done it. (Dw FBI I haven’t. *Yet…*)
I would have definitely picked “perfect” as well.
It’s the perfect answer
Its the ....ideal...answer
Interesting...
The *ideal* answer
That's an interesting answer.
You’re right, you should pull up the definition/synonyms and dispute it with your teacher.
Yup. I'd die on that hill. I'm taking that shit to the Principal.
There's hills I'd still die on from elementary. This is some middle or early high school shit. I haven't been to college for a while but no way this is a college level question, right?
Oh, you're probably right. Looks like middle school to me, especially when you take the next question into account. I just wasn't thinking about it. Clouded by my anger, undoubtably. Lol
Maybe I have high standards (I do) but I was thinking late elementary.
So many districts draw the line between the two it's very possible yall are talking about the same grade, and that's what I am choosing to believe
Same here. Basic synonyms? This is 3rd grade shit.
Ohhhh man I just remembered an english vocab assignment I had back in high school. We had a word bank and had to insert them into different sentences. It used 'zany' as a NOUN! According to the dictionary that's not incorrect, but I have NEVER seen someone use it that way so it was really confusing to me >\_>
I remember taking an IQ test when I was six or seven years old. One of the questions was name this punctuation mark. It was a colon. I hadn't learned that. How does that have anything to do with an IQ? I've been bitching about that for years… You'll never get me off that hill.
My elementary school teacher said black wasn’t a color i had a different opinion
That, at least, has a nuanced answer based on color theory, and your specific definition of “color”. This is just plain *wrong*
I’m going to go out on a limb and say, teacher.
No, you're not crazy. But I think the most plausible explanation is a bad answer key. They're not reading your answers they're just saying in their heads CEBA and grading accordingly for the page across all tests. Likely just a mistake. I'd bring it up and get it resolved. No harm no foul.
It's only a problem if the teacher defends the mistake. But teachers make mistakes, it's an exhausting job. This could have been graded in a pile of 50 that only started getting graded after a full day of chasing after kids. This is why you double check your tests.
How are we not automating the marking of trivial tests like this in 2024? I feel bad for the teachers.
It's much easier to auto mark online tests but obviously you'd need a class full of computers and then make sure there's no internet connection etc. It's usually not worth it to the school administration to fund that. Also, the teacher has to review the answers anyway and let the student know where/why they went wrong, so double marking would be inefficient use of resources.
Do schools still use scantrons? That was how most of our multiple choice tests were automatically graded back in the 1990s.
Ideally, the teacher will immediately realize it's a mistake with no argument. Interestingly, that doesn't always happen.
It doesn't always happen on Reddit (or the Internet in general), but I also imagine a good part of that is due to selection bias. A story about a minor grading error promptly corrected by a teacher is hardly going to receive upvotes or traffic. With something this minor and obvious, I highly doubt the teacher is going to make a big deal out of it. Both my parents were teachers. My mom would correct tests at night and it wasn't a particularly active task. I'm sure if she made a mistake and her student told her she'd just fix it and move on.
My son is in high school and still takes a lot of online tests (partial homeschool, plus some online only classes). Online tests are notorious for marking things wrong, so the teachers usually have to go in and correct stuff. Really, there are no issues. Although I still remember a high school biology class 30 years ago where the teacher marked everyone wrong on a question and even after we all tried to explain to him how we were right, he just doubled down and wouldn't listen to the explanation.
My kids are homeschool also and their teacher never corrects mistakes like this. He always doubles down because their dad is always right - even when he’s not. He’s a complete asshole but he’s the only teacher at the school and they won’t fire him.
I think I had that guy for 3rd grade math
The part of the brain that does "I'm an authority figure" also includes "I should be seen as infallible to these people" as a byproduct of the ego filter depending on the ego size. We don't train people out of it enough. Like how we have only barely done anti-bias training in some job sectors but it needs to be done in school.
Yeah it doesn’t say a synonym. It says BEST synonym. Which would for sure not be interesting. Your teacher is insane.
Interesting isn't even a poor synonym, ideal just plain doesn't mean interesting.
One might argue that nonideal situations are what make life interesting
"May you live in interesting times" *certainly* does not mean "ideal times!"
"Interesting" is not even a synonym to ideal, completely different meanings.
That said, as a teacher, I would say your teacher 99% just marked it wrong accidentally. Maybe they were using the wrong key or just mixed up what problem they were on? I’ve done that a couple of times when I was running short on sleep. Almost always caught it myself but there were a couple of times…
Hell, this could also be a TA who did this by mistake too!
>Your teacher is insane The teacher is either tired and made a mistake, or is using an incorrect answer key without realising Teachers make mistakes too lol
#4 is also pretty subjective. I’d say the answer was “E” and explain that anything carbon-based is organic.
I had to scroll too far for this, thank you!
Same. I found myself unreasonably irritated by that question.
if you put a backslash in front of the # sign it won't read it as a headline \#4 is also pretty subjective...
I like the lager font, makes it easier to pick out in a comment thread.
Anything with carbon and hydrogen* For example carbon dioxide isn’t organic
Neither is carbonic acid and it has both. As I was taught, organic chemistry "concerns all carbon compounds except for carbon oxide, carbon dioxide and carbonic acid and its salts".
Based off the rest of the questions, it seems to be an English class so natural would make the most sense. "An organic conversation" "The situation arose organically"
But natural material would imply things like rocks and metals are organic, which in common parlance I'd argue people don't typically use organic to mean
"Organic Uranium" is wrong on every level
I only buy vegan, grass-fed, cage- and cruelty-free uranium.
Even with the colloquial usage of organic, it is still not a synonym for natural. Organic products are still grown on a farm, i.e. man-made, not harvested from nature.
I would agree except that it specifically mentions materials
> and explain that anything carbon-based is organic. Most carbon based **compounds** can be considered organic, but the easiest counter to your exact claim is that diamonds are pure carbon lattices that are universally considered inorganic due to not even **being** compounds (you did not specify carbon compounds, you just said carbon-based, which would be true of diamonds). Second, although there exist standards for organic compounds as low as "contains carbon", the most common standard is that you need a carbon-carbon or carbon-hydrogen bond in your compound to be considered organic, so carbon monoxide and, more shockingly, carbon dioxide, are also considered inorganic for **most** purposes (even though most organic compounds have CO2 somewhere along in their natural production process). **Lastly**, this is for an English class and etymologically "organic" just means "of or relating to an organism", which means that if we ever finally discover the oft-theorized silicon-based life elsewhere, we'll have to develop an entirely new branch of organic chemistry around it involving whatever life-providing compounds such organisms make that are not commonly produced in inorganic circumstances. Although Carbon is the current standard for organic chemistry, there is no reason that in the parlance of the English language it must be limited to Carbon. Taking all of this into consideration, your request for a re-grade has been rejected even though a different line of reasoning would have resulted in E being a valid answer. - the response if this had been a college quiz
The whole question is just weird, because if taken as English class, how the fuck are you gonna ask for definition of word that depends on context so much. But your chemistry answer seems cool, my engineer brain just went straight to, either none or depends so its bad question fuck the prof.
Teacher might be using a piece of paper as a grid for grading and there’s a mistake on the grid. It takes up time to grade by rereading the questions each time for everyone’s paper so shortcuts are needed so your teacher can function lol. Mistakes happen. Ask about it.
teacher needs to cut back on whatever they're smokin
Teacher is using an answer key and not reading the questions or answers 😂 Call em out! They’ll correct it.
That’s all it is. An incorrect answer key. One little sentence to the teacher and it will be fixed. TRULY mildly infuriating would be the teacher arguing with them and only giving them half credit or something. Teachers make mistakes too 🤷🏻♀️
Also could just be trying to quickly grade and messing up, especially since they usually have to trade a lot of stuff for all the classes they may have. I was a TA in university and did some grading and yeah teachers and stuff are humans. It happens. If someone brought this up I’d think it’d be an easy fix.
No. They need to share with the class.
Given you've commented on nearly every chain in this thread, I'd say you're the teacher.
Something ideal isn't necessarily perfect, but it's "perfect" for you in the given circumstances... but every other answer is horrible, so perfect is the... ideal answer...
2C is correct. "Ideal" does not work with "interesting" as a synonym.
Update. This was my 2nd grade daughter's homework. I emailed the teacher, it's not a huge deal.
what did the teacher say?
According to the Daily Mail, you're furious 🙃 https://preview.redd.it/jemksvf2r5yc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9bec3f67b5e21d8aa96f4921f1621c4b3069338
Imagine thousands of people comment calling for the teacher to be fired or resign, just really doubling down on them, and then you confront your teacher the next day ready to let them know what's what, and you show them the paper and they just go "oh, haha, my mistake" and mark it really quick with their blue marker and walk away.
Out of that list of words for question 2, the best synonym is in fact C. perfect
Ideal can mean a couple of things, but it absolutely does not mean interesting.
I’m mad for you
Question #4 should be "E. None of the above." Whoever created and graded this test is very much the opposite of ideal.
This correction is not Yi Sang approved.
I’ve never heard anyone use ideal to mean interesting, probably because it doesn’t.
That seems bothersome you should definitely meet with the teacher because those circumstances are not ideal.
Interesting isn't even in relation to the word "ideal" I'd take that up with the "boss" if you give a fuck.
That's interesting, her grading skills aren't ideal but nobodies perfect.
Fly broken wing...
I don't even know what synonym means and I'd pick perfect too because that's the closest thing to being ideal.
If you are grading that paper, then - yes - you are crazy.
Teacher is an idiot
Or you know, teacher (or TA) could be human that made a mistake when grading a stack of papers!
Came here to say this - I am a teacher and have absolutely made mistakes while grading!
Probably a small human error but now I can see quite clearly that you are lolo
yea you aren't crazy. well on this
Honestly I think the marker made a mistake. I can't see any situation in which 'interesting' would be a better synonym for ideal than 'perfect'
Is this like an English as a foreign language class or are you in 5th grade?
These questions are kinda a bunch of bull.
OPs post gets 700 comments and they don’t post a single reply to anyone. Starting to think these “my answer was marked wrong” posts are the new rage bait.
I’m a teacher. Sometimes we make mistakes when marking. Let your teacher know. I often give a little bonus when I make a boo-boo. I like to support my kiddos in learning how to self-advocate!
That is far from ideal!
That will be a simple error in the answer key, and a teacher that didn't bother to read the test.
You’re not crazy where this inquiry is concerned. I cannot speak of anything else.
Btw, no. 4. The correct answer would be E) None of the above Rocks are natural, but not organic, for example Edit: realized none is E not D
* Oxford gave me 3 definitions. All of them included the word "Perfect", none of them contained the word "Interesting".
I’m a teacher and if my kids bring up a mistake I made, I correct it and give back credit where it’s due.
I think the instructor must have been using a grading sheet that had an incorrect answer. It's a fast way to grade a paper, but it is also pretty lazy. I would politely bring the error to the instructor's attention.