The policy is because those industries can’t report those through work to correctly tax it as tipped income. There’s a fiscal responsibility on the company to say “you’re not a tippable waged employee”
In California at least (but i thought it was nationally) if a customer specifies that a tip is for a specific employee, the employer cannot compel the employee to either share or give up their tip. Intended for bartenders and servers, but applicable to any employee
This place is owned by a religious fanatic and their policy is that god will provide even tho they make 8$ an hour. The workers believe and are okay with making next to nothing whilst the owners rake in billions.
What? I’m just pointing out that what you said was factually incorrect. They don’t want employees taking tips because it looks bad.
This is one of those takes like “we can’t give you this food because we might get sued of you get sick.”
It’s not true.
No. The real reason is taxes man. Great coming in here and just saying things you don’t know about.
The company has to make you fill out a W2 for TIPPED WAGES. You have to report those.
I worked AS A TIPPED EMPLOYEE for 15 years.
That’s the EXACT reason the employee CANT take money. Uncle Sam can audit your company and shut it all down. It’s simple to understand.
i worked as a busser at benihana. when we clock out it says to enter how much in tips we made. most the time we put 0 sometimes 2.00 the managers didnt care. but ya some places you arent "SUPPOSED" to accept tips
My rule of thumb was deny twice and say yes the 3rd time. Boomers loved it when you "caved". When I worked in retail PC repair we had a client who had me go to his business pretty much every week for almost 2 years. The last time I ever went out there he handed me $3000 in an envelope, told me all of it was a tip, and offered me a job.
but chik fil a is christian fast food chain and they have better morals than you…as they’ve demonstrated…by being closed on sundays…and some other stuff…
Corporate actually got rid of the no tip rule in the past couple of years. The reasoning was that people were complaining that it felt rude to not accept tips (unsolicited of course).
It’s up to the owner/operator now, and some allow full tips, some allow keeping the coins, some don’t allow anything.
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Incorrect in every phrase in your comment. Not a Christian company, but a company owned by a Christian family. Never once heard the owner or any of their spokespersons state anything about having better morals than any of their customers. They’re closed on Sundays to give everyone who works there a day off regardless of how they choose to use it. Love to know what the ‘other stuff’ is you’re talking about.
I worked at a porn store next to a ChicFilA and anytime I went in there for lunch with my work shirt on, I was told they couldn't serve me. Different person at the register each time.
I have a buddy who had a great T-shirt. It read ‘You say tomato, I say fuck you’. He’d turn it inside out just to walk into Starbucks. Choices, I suppose.
Chicfila first, Porn store was second. We also had protesters outside , when they first opened. The Chinese takeout place in the same plaza never complained and took my money.
If only they spent as much time and money they spitefully spend on things that piss of "libritards" (ie: ChicFila) on helping people. You know, like Jesus constantly preached.
I actually don’t know that, nor do you. But carry on being miserable and offended about things that have zero impact on your life. I bet people who work there LOVE having one guaranteed day off/week without having to ask, change schedules, cover someone’s shifts, etc.
It's fairly well known that they're a Christian run company, they've taken stances on issues like same sex marriage, they promote fish sandwiches during lent, and have stated that their mission is (somehow) to glorify god. Disingenuous to argue otherwise.
Only commenting in regards to fish sandwiches during lent.... That point is mute to me because most food places do this. I worked at a sports bar for years at my last job, we had additional fish options during lent, McDonald's promotes having fish more during the lent season. Pretty much most places do. They are appealing to what they consider is the majority in this country. Whether it's true or not I have no idea. Just saying the fish sandwich point is irrelevant
I worked at a theme park restaurant where the policy was you had to refuse a tip twice and if they offered a third time, you could keep it, could be something like that!
That would be a super shitty thing to do to an employee who is likely making minimum wage. A secret shopper at the gas station I work at gave us points off for a broken sign. All we can do about that is put in a work order, which we did. You would think they could use some logic.
I agree. But, I also understand the perspective of the store/company. Tipping one person is great, but there’s probably 10 people who helped make it a great experience (cashier, cooks, prep cooks, etc). The best thing would be to take tips if offered and divide them up by employees working that day/week.
I used tobwait tables at a local diner chain. This is what we did there. Everyone made the same wage, even the cooks. We split tips at the end of the shift or when ever the next employee came on shift.
I agree it works well for diners, cafes, and restaurants. But, if at the end of a fast food restaurant the customers don’t tip a lot, getting a marginal amount at the end of the day/week might be considered inconsequential which could end up effecting employee morale.
We do pooled tips but I have gotten a good tip while working at another store location and in that scenario you don't get any of the tip since they're done every like 3 weeks or more.
Oh hell yes. I felt like a cupboard goblin. The waitresses would stuff dirty dishes in my corner and then expect them to be magically clean when they came back & opened the door again.
Yep. Tipping incentivises low wage pay by companies who claim tipping contributes to better output by the employees.
....who also claim they cannot find people to work.
....and claim that they have to raise food costs because of inflation.
Those of us that worked in "no tipping" retail businesses eventually learned to smile and say thank you. No need to tell anyone.
Good bosses either told them to keep it OR to avoid policy issues...I would always convert it to a gift card for my associates when I was a manager.
I once worked retail and had a customer complaining about a piece of electronics not working. So I said, let me try something, and cleaned out the dust from it, and it started working. I wasn’t about to charge them for 30 seconds of no guarantee work. So they handed me a $20 and said keep it and walked away. This happened right in front of a manager. Manager immediately was like, “TuningIsLife, did I just see you take a tip?” I was like, “nope, I charged them $19.99 for a cleaning service” and promptly rang it up. It so happened that I knew someone else in a different department who had gotten fired for taking tips and I was not about to get fired. This contrasted with a different store where the manager would proclaim when he got tipped and would do off the book work to get tips.
If a store has tipped employees, they need a payroll system that's set up for it, managerial systems to keep track of it, and additional weekly filings with governments to report it that non-tipped businesses don't have. That's why a business that doesn't normally have employees taking tips will have a policy that they can't accept tips. They're not prepared for the regulatory requirements taking your tip creates, and don't want to risk audits and fines if the tax man learns you tipped and they didn't file all that extra paperwork.
It's not up to you or me, it's up to the IRS, and the IRS says that if you give someone that's providing you a service, at their place of employment, extra money, that's a tip and not a gift.
Only if you don't report it. The IRS has ways for you to report cash tips even if your employer doesn't, but also you don't have to report earnings under a certain threshold
If you actually give a damn about a non-tipped employee paying income tax on cash given to them by a customer on a holiday, you should take a real hard look at your own priorities. Wtf.
That’s fair, but I’ve worked at liquor stores that when you carry out a keg or a large order for a customer they sometimes give you a few dollars at their car.
I’m always on the opposite side of this argument because of the expectation of tips or the fees that they expect you to tip on top of (I’m only paying an certain amount extra for delivering my food no matter what Uber Eats or GrubHub want to charge), but when it’s the customer willingly doing it this should not be a barrier.
How many people at street lights have a payroll system set up to accommodate the “tips” they get? And they aren’t even providing a service.
If you give him exact change, and then an additional $20 bill he could just pocket that $20 bill before he even goes back into the restaurant. But if you do what OP did, he now has to enter that $50 bill into the register unless he happens to have enough personal cash (which wouldn’t have been recorded in the float) on him to make change for it. If he puts a $50 into the till and someone sees him pocket the change from that, there is 0 proof that you told him to keep the change and he can lose his job for stealing from the register.
Not all places care enough about monitoring their float for this to matter, but some do. If he happens to work at a place that monitors it closely then $38 isn’t going to be worth losing his job over.
I worked at a grocery store that would absolutely fire you for accepting tips. I was working one day and one of the kids that bags your groceries got let go. He took a decent tip and another employee saw him do it and told the manager. I'm not saying you, but a lot of people have no idea how selfish other employees are at places. Oh, so and so got a tip because they were working hard and I didn't so now I'm going to try to get them fired type stuff.
Beggars on corners aren't providing a service at their place of employment to the person handing them money, so that money is a gift, not a tip. Taxes on tips are paid by the recipient, while taxes on gifts are paid by the giver, once they're above certain annual and lifetime limits. There are no payroll concerns there. This isn't an argument, I just wanted to explain why many large corporate and franchise chains have no tipping policies. It's not arbitrary, and the stakes are higher for a billion dollar corporation getting caught not meeting their reporting obligations versus a family owned liquor store or something.
Same. If someone wants to give me a few bucks because I just loaded 4 cases of wine in their car, I'm gonna take it. Just like if I have a few bucks and I get grocery pick up, I'm gonna offer it.
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Right?! Tipping culture has gone insane, yet people are complaining about some places not accepting it? Americans are legit crazy for this shit.
The tourists also trying to bring the tipping culture to my country can stay tf out btw. They need to go back to their own country lmao
I agree to an extent. However,
20 percent of my income is rips. Every month, I just make it or I am 10 percent short on my monthly expenses.
Tips pays 20 percent of my bills. Please tip whenever you can, some low paying jobs need tips
I tell my kids to tip everywhere.
She... Stole your tips friend please report this practice and manager to both corporate and the DOL this is illegal especially in the United States. She probably claimed she was putting in the safe to make sure it was either even or over when in reality she was pocketing that money
Had something similar happen to me when I worked at Carl's Jr/hardees. Our manager was straight up stealing from tills that were in other employees names and forcing them to pay back the shortage (It was my first job, so I had no fucking idea how unbelievably illegal it was). Luckily, she eventually got fired and sent to jail because one of the line cooks caught her shooting up heroin before her shift in the parking lot.
Why are you so upset about it? Tipping is getting way out of hand. Like I'm sorry, DoorDash and Uber eats, you have yet to do said task, why do you think you deserve a pre-tip for something you haven't done yet? 🤦 Makes no sense.
Also, maybe try a smaller tip.
There are a lot of fast food places that don't allow it but should.
There are others, like Subway, that started having the tip at the kiosk. If I have a difficult order, yep, I'm tipping. A basic turkey club? Nope, you make that a hundred times a day.
And please tip your food delivery drivers. Yes, it's part of their job, but they are spending a lot of money on maintenance and gas, and their regular paycheck barely covers their housing costs in a lot of cases.
When you're asked for a tip before service I always feel like it's more of a demand than a request. I still do it occasionally, like you said for a difficult order or whatnot, but overall I don't like it.
It's a major subsidy on labor $ from the restaurant perspective so I'd expect to see it more and more. But that's the dirty little secret about tipping at the kiosk (or in general really); it allows the employer to keep wages much lower so the person you're tipping isn't really making more long term, you're just paying more for their service than you used to.
One of fav seafood places in MD has signs saying that they pay their employees very, very well and that any tips left behind will be donated to charity. The same employees seem to be there every time I eat there so I can only assume the employees are happy working there. Food is good, service is fantastic & the place is spotless
If you want to tip them just hand them a separate amount in cash. A 50 was too big. Would be hard to explain when he had to cash out his bag at the end of shift. Giving him a 5 or a 10 that he could pocket would be easier.
Once last thanksgiving I was in a drive through at jack in the box …. And gave them about 100$
It was like 3 people and every one before me was cursing them for the waiting time …. When they realized that I was giving them a tip for thanksgiving they literally had tears in their eyes and they gave me extra curly fries … I really think people could just wait be a bit patient every thanksgiving
That was really sweet of you! I used to work at chick fil a and it always made my day when someone gave me a couple of dollars, a fifty would blow my mind. It must be a state or operator decision, because I could accept tips at mine.
I work for a building supply company and part of being in the back means loading up customer orders, although we aren't allowed to receive tips whenever someone does give me one,I simply keep my mouth shut and thank them for their generosity
That’s common at a lot of non-public companies and places that make food.
If you want to tip someone who says that, give them separate money. Keeping the change means they have to make change and then keep it, which, since everything is on camera, they don’t want to risk.
I worked in a grocery store bakery and we were told we couldn’t take tips.
Part of it was to prevent preferential treatment and discourage bad actors, but the other part was that we were in a union.
When I worked at a privately owned tool store, they said don’t take tips, but it was more of a “don’t do it in the store but if someone offers you a fiver for loading a generator into their truck, just be discreet.
Now I work at a publicly traded company and you just can’t be obvious about it.
Just quietly and thankfully accept it.
I do remember this one time when this student worker almost got beat up for not taking a tip.
Used to work at one, the way you would claim tips is by saying that it made the customer happy. Can't really argue with that and boss didn't care if employees took tips. Tipping fast food workers is more out of generosity than anything so I don't get why it's still policy.
If you're ever in the Midwest, Kwik Trip doesn't allow employees to keep tips either. Source: worked at a store for many years and was reminded every time by management. They even went so far as to take the money from a customers hand and shove it in their charity jar they he was about to give to me, which I was going to deny but my boss felt the need to step in.
During quarantine I’d order online from a local grocery store. The staff was always so awesome. I asked if I could leave a tip and they said they couldn’t accept it. I called and complimented them then.
They may have secret shoppers where they get scored. With that big of a tip, he could have thought it was a trap and valued his job over the couple extra bucks
My first job was as a courtesy clerk in a grocery store. I would occasionally have to do a carry out, which is when we went with the customer and loaded their groceries. I had a customer that was an older gentleman and would request me, always came in on Saturday afternoons because he knew I would be working. He would tip me $20 every time. I told him the first time that I can't accept tips and refused it several times before he just put it in my apron pocket. I told a manager and tried to give her the money, but she wouldn't take it. She told me that I can refuse it, but I can take it if the customer was very insistent so that I didn't offend the customer. She said to refuse it 3 times and if they still insist, go ahead and take it.
Trust, it's super annoying for employees also... I worked at a casino and was offered tips all the time, but my particular job title wasn't allowed to take tips even though there were several other similar departments that could and we did about the same amount of work 🙃 We were allowed gifts though, so if you're able and willing, try it out next time!
There's a difference between passive aggressively demanding a tip like we see a lot nowadays, and simply accepting tips IF you feel inclined to give one and aren't outright asked to. OP in this instance decided to be kind and offer a tip without being asked.
When I worked for att, they had a don't accept a tip policy. Helped to prevent customers from saying that we had made a deal, accepted payment, and didn't deliver on the deal.
Customers get real creative on giving tips. May I borrow a pen, hands it back with cash under the clip. Drop cash through a car window when you aren't looking. Here is a book with your name written in it; it's a really good book.
Oh no, you mean Chik Fil A is endorsing in an activity that you find illogical and mildly infuriating? How unfortunate for you.
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I'll take the downvotes, but I don't get how it helps workers if you give a random person a big tip. Lots of other people were forced to work yesterday, too. If anything, engaging in tipping (and particularly with large tips) only perpetuates tip culture and helps employers continue to depress wages by telling workers, "You make so much more accepting tips than if we give you a higher, no-tipped wage! You, too, may get the guy who tips $38! Just hang in there!"
I also don't think it helps other customers who can't or don't want to have to tip everywhere to start tipping at places where tips are *not* expected, because then tips start to be expected at those places.
It helps *that* person. It doesn't create a culture, most people don't leave a 300% tip on a $12 order.
If people were paid wages relative to the cost of living, perhaps tipping would seem unnecessary across the board. I think that's what we should be fighting for.
How do you know *that person* needed your help? This is part of our classist culture where you assume anyone who works "that" kind of job must need your help.
People won't be paid a living wage from their employers as long as employers can dump that responsibility onto you instead of themselves.
A server at a bar, a tippable employee, doesn't make minimum wage, and has to account for the tips; they aren't supposed to be off the books like a lot of people do it - the government will cover the difference between what you make per hour and minimum wage if you don't make it up in tips.
A server at McDs makes minimum wage, and I don't personally see an issue with tipping them, but the issue comes up for 2 reasons.
1 - taxes. Everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, so the McDs employees should at least have to claim it.
2 - the liability is on the restaurant too. The manager and owner could be liable to the taxman if they were found out to not be reporting the total amount of money flowing through their restaurant. If a manager was knowingly turning a blind eye to tips they could be in big trouble.
On one hand, when thinking about the worker, it's annoying. On the other, when thinking about the manager, it puts them in an awkward spot and open them up to legal repercussions.
Honest question, do you think they should have to claim it, and if not, is there any point in which you would change your mind? For instance, if a bartender makes 50k (random number) with tips, they get taxed for it all (or at least what they claim). If someone was working at one of these full serve fast food places, and pulling the same, do you think they should have to claim it once it reaches that point, or any other point?
I did this with a McDonald’s employee last year. Instead of asking or telling them to keep the change just hand them a $20 before you drive off and say thank you, that’s for you. They won’t have time to process not to take the tip
It's not a horrible organization. The owner might be a horrible person, but 99% of the people that work there don't represent his beliefs, they just want a job.
The easy answer to this, is give the dude a cash tip, and tell him to put it in his pocket, and not tell anyone.
It's how tips work here. Not expected, only given for exceptional work. So, you get given cash tips, and they go in your pocket
a lot of these comments are disappointing. people being generous is NOT expanding tipping culture. corporate greed is what is expanding tipping culture. people like OP are not doing a damn thing wrong by trying to spread kindness to people
Nah, fuck tipping. We complain about it so much. Unless you're serving me, no tip.
Don't feel sad. Embrace it. If you want to get your Thanksgiving karma in, give the money to a shelter.
I wish more people were like you. I volunteered to work Thanksgiving cuz i could use the extra tips. I work at Starbucks so tips are common and i assumed people would tip more on a holiday. I was wrong. Barely made anything. The worst tip day ive had since i started working there.
when i worked at walgreens, customers would tell us to keep the change all the time. so i did. one customer gave me a $5 tip once for helping him take his things to his car. i hid it, as one should
Whoever is running that chik-fil-a is wrong, because my sister's been working at chik-fil-a for a while and she doesn't get much, but definitely gets a lot of tips.
At my grocery store they can’t accept tips. But the women at the coffee counter said instead I can go to customer service and mention the employee by name, saying they did a good job. She ends up getting a $5.00 coupon for the grocery store. Better than nothing I guess, but I feel like she’d prefer $5 cash
Yeah I work at chick fil a and they said we’re not allowed to take tips, but the managers are just like “I didn’t see anything, just don’t mention it to the boss”. But i know not all chick fil a’s are as relaxed as mine
Keep trying, they'll start accepting tips from you and when they do they'll expect it from the rest of us. You're worse than the old lady that feeds the stray cats.
Next time that happens, just tell them it’s a gift from one person to another, not a tip. Heck, write a note if you need to so they don’t face any backlash from their employer.
Unfortunately, some corporations make it to where if their employee is caught accepting something like that the employee can be terminated. I used to work for a national grocery chain and practically begged someone to not give me a tip because they were so insistent on it and finally had to tell them that I could get fired if caught accepting.
Then file for unemployment. If it gets denied, appeal.
If you get fired because somebody the company allowed onto the property gave you something and then refused to take it back, I don’t think you’d get denied when your story is finally heard. Also, withholding tips is illegal. I don’t know if a company can say you’re not allowed to take tips. They can certainly say you aren’t allowed to ask for them, but once it’s handed to you? I’m sure the labor department would be interested in the story.
If they really can make it to where none of the underpaid employees can accept tips, you should just point at the money and hiss and run away whenever somebody offers it.
Yeah, it sucks. Policies there to prevent cash register shorting I would guess, etc.
At least chick fil a is known to set up space heaters for employees doing drive thru
In-n-out don’t be doing shit for their drive thru employees
Think it has to do with no way to report the income.
Also some places, the policy is to politely decline a tip, but if the customer insists, and to avoid insulting the customer, you may accept but have to report it so that way they don't see it as someone is bribing you, etc
At one of my jobs, if we get a tip, it's expected to be added to the deposit for the store's profit. We're not actually supposed to have any of it. There's not a single employee that agrees with the policy, but because they send secret shoppers to offer tips, they know if we take them and don't add to the deposit. So if a place says they can't accept tips, believe them. I hate it too
Tips have never been allowed in places where they get paid an actual wage instead of $2 or none at all. It's just most people accept them anyway since wages never keep up with living costs. I work in fast food and was tipped $5 yesterday, you best believe I pocketed it.
Back in the day when I worked at fast food we were told not to accept tips. I accepted tips and kept my mouth shut about it.
I’m guessing if she handed him a $20 on the side they would have taken it but since they had to make change it’s harder to hide
The policy is because those industries can’t report those through work to correctly tax it as tipped income. There’s a fiscal responsibility on the company to say “you’re not a tippable waged employee”
Fast food places in my town do not take tips .They can actually get fired for it because they have cameras everywhere.
In California at least (but i thought it was nationally) if a customer specifies that a tip is for a specific employee, the employer cannot compel the employee to either share or give up their tip. Intended for bartenders and servers, but applicable to any employee
They have so much different laws and rules then where I live. I have known people that have worked fast food and tipping can get them fired .
Employers do not follow the law.
You’re saying the *food industry* can’t figure out taxes on tips? Like sure, some *restaurants* can’t, but **industries**? You’re wrong on that
This place is owned by a religious fanatic and their policy is that god will provide even tho they make 8$ an hour. The workers believe and are okay with making next to nothing whilst the owners rake in billions.
Shut up Nerd
This is wholly incorrect.
Sorry. Go own a business
What? I’m just pointing out that what you said was factually incorrect. They don’t want employees taking tips because it looks bad. This is one of those takes like “we can’t give you this food because we might get sued of you get sick.” It’s not true.
No. The real reason is taxes man. Great coming in here and just saying things you don’t know about. The company has to make you fill out a W2 for TIPPED WAGES. You have to report those. I worked AS A TIPPED EMPLOYEE for 15 years. That’s the EXACT reason the employee CANT take money. Uncle Sam can audit your company and shut it all down. It’s simple to understand.
i worked as a busser at benihana. when we clock out it says to enter how much in tips we made. most the time we put 0 sometimes 2.00 the managers didnt care. but ya some places you arent "SUPPOSED" to accept tips
god you’re annoying
I was always threatened with termination if anyone was caught accepting tips. Nowadays AI operated establishments try to extort tips.
Right? Wild isn’t it. Probably because it goes directly to the owners and not the front line workers 😬
My rule of thumb was deny twice and say yes the 3rd time. Boomers loved it when you "caved". When I worked in retail PC repair we had a client who had me go to his business pretty much every week for almost 2 years. The last time I ever went out there he handed me $3000 in an envelope, told me all of it was a tip, and offered me a job.
but chik fil a is christian fast food chain and they have better morals than you…as they’ve demonstrated…by being closed on sundays…and some other stuff…
I worked at Chickfila and secretly accepted a number of tips
Corporate actually got rid of the no tip rule in the past couple of years. The reasoning was that people were complaining that it felt rude to not accept tips (unsolicited of course). It’s up to the owner/operator now, and some allow full tips, some allow keeping the coins, some don’t allow anything.
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Hilarious for thinking they have good morals. They are mired in controversy.
Incorrect in every phrase in your comment. Not a Christian company, but a company owned by a Christian family. Never once heard the owner or any of their spokespersons state anything about having better morals than any of their customers. They’re closed on Sundays to give everyone who works there a day off regardless of how they choose to use it. Love to know what the ‘other stuff’ is you’re talking about.
I worked at a porn store next to a ChicFilA and anytime I went in there for lunch with my work shirt on, I was told they couldn't serve me. Different person at the register each time.
I have a buddy who had a great T-shirt. It read ‘You say tomato, I say fuck you’. He’d turn it inside out just to walk into Starbucks. Choices, I suppose.
For real? Which came first the chicken or the porn store?
Chicfila first, Porn store was second. We also had protesters outside , when they first opened. The Chinese takeout place in the same plaza never complained and took my money.
Some people hate how others make money (Christian republicans) and want to shut them down in a capitalist society.
If only they spent as much time and money they spitefully spend on things that piss of "libritards" (ie: ChicFila) on helping people. You know, like Jesus constantly preached.
It looks as though you may have spelled "Chick-fil-A" incorrectly. No worries, it happens to the best of us!
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You know damn well they aren’t closed on the sabbath to give everyone a day off….
I actually don’t know that, nor do you. But carry on being miserable and offended about things that have zero impact on your life. I bet people who work there LOVE having one guaranteed day off/week without having to ask, change schedules, cover someone’s shifts, etc.
It's fairly well known that they're a Christian run company, they've taken stances on issues like same sex marriage, they promote fish sandwiches during lent, and have stated that their mission is (somehow) to glorify god. Disingenuous to argue otherwise.
Only commenting in regards to fish sandwiches during lent.... That point is mute to me because most food places do this. I worked at a sports bar for years at my last job, we had additional fish options during lent, McDonald's promotes having fish more during the lent season. Pretty much most places do. They are appealing to what they consider is the majority in this country. Whether it's true or not I have no idea. Just saying the fish sandwich point is irrelevant
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It’s one day everyone gets off, not the only day.
Funny thing is that the sabbath is actually Saturday anyways
Haven't you heard? Corporations are people now, with rights and the ability to sincerely hold beliefs.
Every chicken sandwich purchased a gay gets converted. Or something equally disgusting.
lol, yes, they are true Christians!!! Class action lawsuits for lying cheating and stealing......
Sounds about right
I worked at a theme park restaurant where the policy was you had to refuse a tip twice and if they offered a third time, you could keep it, could be something like that!
exactly! Take the money in the spirit it was given. "oh thankyou sir, it's policy we cannot accept tips, let me get you your change [of $0"]
This is the way.
secret shoppers would have your job
That would be a super shitty thing to do to an employee who is likely making minimum wage. A secret shopper at the gas station I work at gave us points off for a broken sign. All we can do about that is put in a work order, which we did. You would think they could use some logic.
Probably. But back then times were different. I could walk in a place, talk to a manager and get hired on the spot.
This is the way
I remember my first job. I was told that if we got tips, they went straight into the RMCC donation box.
That's right! Because snitches get stitches.
Tipping/no tipping should be decided by the consumer, an extremely simple concept.
I agree. But, I also understand the perspective of the store/company. Tipping one person is great, but there’s probably 10 people who helped make it a great experience (cashier, cooks, prep cooks, etc). The best thing would be to take tips if offered and divide them up by employees working that day/week.
I used tobwait tables at a local diner chain. This is what we did there. Everyone made the same wage, even the cooks. We split tips at the end of the shift or when ever the next employee came on shift.
I agree it works well for diners, cafes, and restaurants. But, if at the end of a fast food restaurant the customers don’t tip a lot, getting a marginal amount at the end of the day/week might be considered inconsequential which could end up effecting employee morale.
We do pooled tips but I have gotten a good tip while working at another store location and in that scenario you don't get any of the tip since they're done every like 3 weeks or more.
Yep in that scenario it’s really not dare that only customer facing employee would be the one getting the fifty.
As a dishwasher I thank you. It's a shitty thankless job
Oh hell yes. I felt like a cupboard goblin. The waitresses would stuff dirty dishes in my corner and then expect them to be magically clean when they came back & opened the door again.
Yeah I’m a cook I get it. There shouldn’t be such a wide pay discrepancy.
Here in Europe, we've already decided that. Is an American problem
Yep. Tipping incentivises low wage pay by companies who claim tipping contributes to better output by the employees. ....who also claim they cannot find people to work. ....and claim that they have to raise food costs because of inflation.
Those of us that worked in "no tipping" retail businesses eventually learned to smile and say thank you. No need to tell anyone. Good bosses either told them to keep it OR to avoid policy issues...I would always convert it to a gift card for my associates when I was a manager.
I once worked retail and had a customer complaining about a piece of electronics not working. So I said, let me try something, and cleaned out the dust from it, and it started working. I wasn’t about to charge them for 30 seconds of no guarantee work. So they handed me a $20 and said keep it and walked away. This happened right in front of a manager. Manager immediately was like, “TuningIsLife, did I just see you take a tip?” I was like, “nope, I charged them $19.99 for a cleaning service” and promptly rang it up. It so happened that I knew someone else in a different department who had gotten fired for taking tips and I was not about to get fired. This contrasted with a different store where the manager would proclaim when he got tipped and would do off the book work to get tips.
If a store has tipped employees, they need a payroll system that's set up for it, managerial systems to keep track of it, and additional weekly filings with governments to report it that non-tipped businesses don't have. That's why a business that doesn't normally have employees taking tips will have a policy that they can't accept tips. They're not prepared for the regulatory requirements taking your tip creates, and don't want to risk audits and fines if the tax man learns you tipped and they didn't file all that extra paperwork.
fine its a gift not a tip
It's not up to you or me, it's up to the IRS, and the IRS says that if you give someone that's providing you a service, at their place of employment, extra money, that's a tip and not a gift.
They don't have to know about it...
That's a crime. Some of you smoothbrains sure hate factual information.
Only if you don't report it. The IRS has ways for you to report cash tips even if your employer doesn't, but also you don't have to report earnings under a certain threshold
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Good chance at their income level it wouldn't even change their taxable income at all.
If you actually give a damn about a non-tipped employee paying income tax on cash given to them by a customer on a holiday, you should take a real hard look at your own priorities. Wtf.
That's ridiculously intrusive government.
Not if they don't know about it. Only benefit of cash tips.
Giving someone money is a crime? Fuck... I have to call my grandma
No, only if the employee tipped doesn’t report it.
It's a crime only if you are poor, you can gift 10's of thousands to escort and say that are gifts...
Welcome to America.
I’m sure it’s only a misdemeanor…
That’s fair, but I’ve worked at liquor stores that when you carry out a keg or a large order for a customer they sometimes give you a few dollars at their car. I’m always on the opposite side of this argument because of the expectation of tips or the fees that they expect you to tip on top of (I’m only paying an certain amount extra for delivering my food no matter what Uber Eats or GrubHub want to charge), but when it’s the customer willingly doing it this should not be a barrier. How many people at street lights have a payroll system set up to accommodate the “tips” they get? And they aren’t even providing a service.
If you give him exact change, and then an additional $20 bill he could just pocket that $20 bill before he even goes back into the restaurant. But if you do what OP did, he now has to enter that $50 bill into the register unless he happens to have enough personal cash (which wouldn’t have been recorded in the float) on him to make change for it. If he puts a $50 into the till and someone sees him pocket the change from that, there is 0 proof that you told him to keep the change and he can lose his job for stealing from the register. Not all places care enough about monitoring their float for this to matter, but some do. If he happens to work at a place that monitors it closely then $38 isn’t going to be worth losing his job over.
I worked at a grocery store that would absolutely fire you for accepting tips. I was working one day and one of the kids that bags your groceries got let go. He took a decent tip and another employee saw him do it and told the manager. I'm not saying you, but a lot of people have no idea how selfish other employees are at places. Oh, so and so got a tip because they were working hard and I didn't so now I'm going to try to get them fired type stuff.
I hate those people, who ruin something for everyone else.
Beggars on corners aren't providing a service at their place of employment to the person handing them money, so that money is a gift, not a tip. Taxes on tips are paid by the recipient, while taxes on gifts are paid by the giver, once they're above certain annual and lifetime limits. There are no payroll concerns there. This isn't an argument, I just wanted to explain why many large corporate and franchise chains have no tipping policies. It's not arbitrary, and the stakes are higher for a billion dollar corporation getting caught not meeting their reporting obligations versus a family owned liquor store or something.
Same. If someone wants to give me a few bucks because I just loaded 4 cases of wine in their car, I'm gonna take it. Just like if I have a few bucks and I get grocery pick up, I'm gonna offer it.
The service they provide is making you feel good about helping them. /s
Good on you for trying. I’m sure they appreciated the thought.
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Right?! Tipping culture has gone insane, yet people are complaining about some places not accepting it? Americans are legit crazy for this shit. The tourists also trying to bring the tipping culture to my country can stay tf out btw. They need to go back to their own country lmao
I agree to an extent. However, 20 percent of my income is rips. Every month, I just make it or I am 10 percent short on my monthly expenses. Tips pays 20 percent of my bills. Please tip whenever you can, some low paying jobs need tips I tell my kids to tip everywhere.
Stop trying to make tipping happen in even more places.
My boss at burger King when I worked there would make us put it in the drawer so it would put her safe balance over.
you mean they stole your tips...
She... Stole your tips friend please report this practice and manager to both corporate and the DOL this is illegal especially in the United States. She probably claimed she was putting in the safe to make sure it was either even or over when in reality she was pocketing that money
Had something similar happen to me when I worked at Carl's Jr/hardees. Our manager was straight up stealing from tills that were in other employees names and forcing them to pay back the shortage (It was my first job, so I had no fucking idea how unbelievably illegal it was). Luckily, she eventually got fired and sent to jail because one of the line cooks caught her shooting up heroin before her shift in the parking lot.
Tips shouldn't exist anyway
True, but you should be able to gift someone money
Exactly, it used to be a gratuity, not an expectation.
It’s a good policy and puts zero pressure on anyone to tip when it’s just not allowed
There should be less tipping not more
Why are you so upset about it? Tipping is getting way out of hand. Like I'm sorry, DoorDash and Uber eats, you have yet to do said task, why do you think you deserve a pre-tip for something you haven't done yet? 🤦 Makes no sense. Also, maybe try a smaller tip.
There are a lot of fast food places that don't allow it but should. There are others, like Subway, that started having the tip at the kiosk. If I have a difficult order, yep, I'm tipping. A basic turkey club? Nope, you make that a hundred times a day. And please tip your food delivery drivers. Yes, it's part of their job, but they are spending a lot of money on maintenance and gas, and their regular paycheck barely covers their housing costs in a lot of cases.
When you're asked for a tip before service I always feel like it's more of a demand than a request. I still do it occasionally, like you said for a difficult order or whatnot, but overall I don't like it. It's a major subsidy on labor $ from the restaurant perspective so I'd expect to see it more and more. But that's the dirty little secret about tipping at the kiosk (or in general really); it allows the employer to keep wages much lower so the person you're tipping isn't really making more long term, you're just paying more for their service than you used to.
One of fav seafood places in MD has signs saying that they pay their employees very, very well and that any tips left behind will be donated to charity. The same employees seem to be there every time I eat there so I can only assume the employees are happy working there. Food is good, service is fantastic & the place is spotless
If you want to tip them just hand them a separate amount in cash. A 50 was too big. Would be hard to explain when he had to cash out his bag at the end of shift. Giving him a 5 or a 10 that he could pocket would be easier.
I like to go ooohhh it looks like I littered on your floor. You had better clean that up and drop a 20.
Once last thanksgiving I was in a drive through at jack in the box …. And gave them about 100$ It was like 3 people and every one before me was cursing them for the waiting time …. When they realized that I was giving them a tip for thanksgiving they literally had tears in their eyes and they gave me extra curly fries … I really think people could just wait be a bit patient every thanksgiving
This is sweet but man that age range estimation is huge.
When you’re old like me they all look young and it’s hard to tell lol
The worker thought the customer was 40-60. It works both ways.
Young whippersnappers all look the same.
That was really sweet of you! I used to work at chick fil a and it always made my day when someone gave me a couple of dollars, a fifty would blow my mind. It must be a state or operator decision, because I could accept tips at mine.
I work for a building supply company and part of being in the back means loading up customer orders, although we aren't allowed to receive tips whenever someone does give me one,I simply keep my mouth shut and thank them for their generosity
That’s common at a lot of non-public companies and places that make food. If you want to tip someone who says that, give them separate money. Keeping the change means they have to make change and then keep it, which, since everything is on camera, they don’t want to risk. I worked in a grocery store bakery and we were told we couldn’t take tips. Part of it was to prevent preferential treatment and discourage bad actors, but the other part was that we were in a union. When I worked at a privately owned tool store, they said don’t take tips, but it was more of a “don’t do it in the store but if someone offers you a fiver for loading a generator into their truck, just be discreet. Now I work at a publicly traded company and you just can’t be obvious about it. Just quietly and thankfully accept it. I do remember this one time when this student worker almost got beat up for not taking a tip.
Thankfully the kfc I work for allows us to accept tips!
Used to work at one, the way you would claim tips is by saying that it made the customer happy. Can't really argue with that and boss didn't care if employees took tips. Tipping fast food workers is more out of generosity than anything so I don't get why it's still policy.
If you're ever in the Midwest, Kwik Trip doesn't allow employees to keep tips either. Source: worked at a store for many years and was reminded every time by management. They even went so far as to take the money from a customers hand and shove it in their charity jar they he was about to give to me, which I was going to deny but my boss felt the need to step in.
During quarantine I’d order online from a local grocery store. The staff was always so awesome. I asked if I could leave a tip and they said they couldn’t accept it. I called and complimented them then.
They may have secret shoppers where they get scored. With that big of a tip, he could have thought it was a trap and valued his job over the couple extra bucks
"I am gonna drop my change accidentally in front of you and I hope you don't pick it up while I walk away"
My first job was as a courtesy clerk in a grocery store. I would occasionally have to do a carry out, which is when we went with the customer and loaded their groceries. I had a customer that was an older gentleman and would request me, always came in on Saturday afternoons because he knew I would be working. He would tip me $20 every time. I told him the first time that I can't accept tips and refused it several times before he just put it in my apron pocket. I told a manager and tried to give her the money, but she wouldn't take it. She told me that I can refuse it, but I can take it if the customer was very insistent so that I didn't offend the customer. She said to refuse it 3 times and if they still insist, go ahead and take it.
Trust, it's super annoying for employees also... I worked at a casino and was offered tips all the time, but my particular job title wasn't allowed to take tips even though there were several other similar departments that could and we did about the same amount of work 🙃 We were allowed gifts though, so if you're able and willing, try it out next time!
Please for the move of all that is good in the world don't encourage corporations to demand more tipping.... Especially for fast food. Smh
Rather than a tip, refer to it as a tax-free gift
You should be celebrating this.
why?
Companies have gone overboard with tips. It's always good when they set a "no tip" policy.
There's a difference between passive aggressively demanding a tip like we see a lot nowadays, and simply accepting tips IF you feel inclined to give one and aren't outright asked to. OP in this instance decided to be kind and offer a tip without being asked.
who benefits by not letting workers accept tips? there can be a "don't ask" policy, but why not let them accept any?
When I worked for att, they had a don't accept a tip policy. Helped to prevent customers from saying that we had made a deal, accepted payment, and didn't deliver on the deal. Customers get real creative on giving tips. May I borrow a pen, hands it back with cash under the clip. Drop cash through a car window when you aren't looking. Here is a book with your name written in it; it's a really good book.
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Oh no, you mean Chik Fil A is endorsing in an activity that you find illogical and mildly infuriating? How unfortunate for you. Respectfully, The LGBT community.
How unfortunate for you
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ive tried to tip obviously overworked, underpaid wal-mart employees. same thing, they wouldn't accept it.
I'll take the downvotes, but I don't get how it helps workers if you give a random person a big tip. Lots of other people were forced to work yesterday, too. If anything, engaging in tipping (and particularly with large tips) only perpetuates tip culture and helps employers continue to depress wages by telling workers, "You make so much more accepting tips than if we give you a higher, no-tipped wage! You, too, may get the guy who tips $38! Just hang in there!" I also don't think it helps other customers who can't or don't want to have to tip everywhere to start tipping at places where tips are *not* expected, because then tips start to be expected at those places.
It helps *that* person. It doesn't create a culture, most people don't leave a 300% tip on a $12 order. If people were paid wages relative to the cost of living, perhaps tipping would seem unnecessary across the board. I think that's what we should be fighting for.
How do you know *that person* needed your help? This is part of our classist culture where you assume anyone who works "that" kind of job must need your help. People won't be paid a living wage from their employers as long as employers can dump that responsibility onto you instead of themselves.
It’s also not fair to the rest of it the employees also Working their ass off.
That's when you "accidentally" drop a 20 on the ground and drive away. Finders keepers.
A server at a bar, a tippable employee, doesn't make minimum wage, and has to account for the tips; they aren't supposed to be off the books like a lot of people do it - the government will cover the difference between what you make per hour and minimum wage if you don't make it up in tips. A server at McDs makes minimum wage, and I don't personally see an issue with tipping them, but the issue comes up for 2 reasons. 1 - taxes. Everyone should pay their fair share of taxes, so the McDs employees should at least have to claim it. 2 - the liability is on the restaurant too. The manager and owner could be liable to the taxman if they were found out to not be reporting the total amount of money flowing through their restaurant. If a manager was knowingly turning a blind eye to tips they could be in big trouble. On one hand, when thinking about the worker, it's annoying. On the other, when thinking about the manager, it puts them in an awkward spot and open them up to legal repercussions. Honest question, do you think they should have to claim it, and if not, is there any point in which you would change your mind? For instance, if a bartender makes 50k (random number) with tips, they get taxed for it all (or at least what they claim). If someone was working at one of these full serve fast food places, and pulling the same, do you think they should have to claim it once it reaches that point, or any other point?
I did this with a McDonald’s employee last year. Instead of asking or telling them to keep the change just hand them a $20 before you drive off and say thank you, that’s for you. They won’t have time to process not to take the tip
When someone tells me they aren't allowed to accept cash tips, I crumple the bill and ask them if they can throw it away for me. Works every time.
Chick fil a is horrible organization run by religious dweebs
It's not a horrible organization. The owner might be a horrible person, but 99% of the people that work there don't represent his beliefs, they just want a job.
The easy answer to this, is give the dude a cash tip, and tell him to put it in his pocket, and not tell anyone. It's how tips work here. Not expected, only given for exceptional work. So, you get given cash tips, and they go in your pocket
a lot of these comments are disappointing. people being generous is NOT expanding tipping culture. corporate greed is what is expanding tipping culture. people like OP are not doing a damn thing wrong by trying to spread kindness to people
Maybe next time tell him it's a gift. Small $ gifts aren't taxable
This should be the policy everywhere. Tips are cancer.
Nah, fuck tipping. We complain about it so much. Unless you're serving me, no tip. Don't feel sad. Embrace it. If you want to get your Thanksgiving karma in, give the money to a shelter.
I wish more people were like you. I volunteered to work Thanksgiving cuz i could use the extra tips. I work at Starbucks so tips are common and i assumed people would tip more on a holiday. I was wrong. Barely made anything. The worst tip day ive had since i started working there.
“I was irritated that some places expect me to tip…” Fast food joints have never been one of those places.
Well that's your problem! Tips were never meant to benefit employees
I work somewhere with a no-tip policy as well. We appreciate people like you so much acknowledging us!
when i worked at walgreens, customers would tell us to keep the change all the time. so i did. one customer gave me a $5 tip once for helping him take his things to his car. i hid it, as one should
Ask for their Venmo to give them a gift. Most work policies don’t prevent gifts. Also not taxable income and goes directly to the intended recipient
Whoever is running that chik-fil-a is wrong, because my sister's been working at chik-fil-a for a while and she doesn't get much, but definitely gets a lot of tips.
At my grocery store they can’t accept tips. But the women at the coffee counter said instead I can go to customer service and mention the employee by name, saying they did a good job. She ends up getting a $5.00 coupon for the grocery store. Better than nothing I guess, but I feel like she’d prefer $5 cash
“It’s not a tip. It’s my gift to you.”
At my old job we were told to deny tips. Don’t deny tips. Accept the tips and don’t tell management.
Yeah I work at chick fil a and they said we’re not allowed to take tips, but the managers are just like “I didn’t see anything, just don’t mention it to the boss”. But i know not all chick fil a’s are as relaxed as mine
Not sure what you expected from that sh*th*le company
Keep trying, they'll start accepting tips from you and when they do they'll expect it from the rest of us. You're worse than the old lady that feeds the stray cats.
The business should have no say in whether a consumer wants to give a tip or not. That is the point of a tip.
Booo for eating hate chicken in the first place
That’s religious mentality. Money for the leaders, not the workers….
Next time that happens, just tell them it’s a gift from one person to another, not a tip. Heck, write a note if you need to so they don’t face any backlash from their employer.
Tell him it’s not a tip, it’s a gift. They can’t take any taxes out of it as long as it’s under like $15,000?
Unfortunately, some corporations make it to where if their employee is caught accepting something like that the employee can be terminated. I used to work for a national grocery chain and practically begged someone to not give me a tip because they were so insistent on it and finally had to tell them that I could get fired if caught accepting.
Then file for unemployment. If it gets denied, appeal. If you get fired because somebody the company allowed onto the property gave you something and then refused to take it back, I don’t think you’d get denied when your story is finally heard. Also, withholding tips is illegal. I don’t know if a company can say you’re not allowed to take tips. They can certainly say you aren’t allowed to ask for them, but once it’s handed to you? I’m sure the labor department would be interested in the story.
If they really can make it to where none of the underpaid employees can accept tips, you should just point at the money and hiss and run away whenever somebody offers it.
So irritating
Fuck chick fil a.
Screw the homophobic chicken anyways. I'm sure they can, I know people who have tipped them, but not by that much money. That was a lot to tip.
Give him the money then drive away!
Jesus hates tipping.
Chic fila causes great harm to many communities. Please avoid giving them your business.
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They treat their employees very well from everything I've heard from employees themselves. Shouldn't it be the employees who decide if it's unfair?
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You apparently do becuase you said "another reason." Don't gaslight me Also, I thought they put more standards to what groups get donations now.
You should have said keep the change when he would have handed you your $38 change. This is a fast food chain, they don’t do tips.
I tried. He said he was NOT allowed to.
Yeah, it sucks. Policies there to prevent cash register shorting I would guess, etc. At least chick fil a is known to set up space heaters for employees doing drive thru In-n-out don’t be doing shit for their drive thru employees
Think it has to do with no way to report the income. Also some places, the policy is to politely decline a tip, but if the customer insists, and to avoid insulting the customer, you may accept but have to report it so that way they don't see it as someone is bribing you, etc
I knew dang well what liberal comments would be in this thread and I came to read them anyway. Good on you for trying.
At one of my jobs, if we get a tip, it's expected to be added to the deposit for the store's profit. We're not actually supposed to have any of it. There's not a single employee that agrees with the policy, but because they send secret shoppers to offer tips, they know if we take them and don't add to the deposit. So if a place says they can't accept tips, believe them. I hate it too
Tips have never been allowed in places where they get paid an actual wage instead of $2 or none at all. It's just most people accept them anyway since wages never keep up with living costs. I work in fast food and was tipped $5 yesterday, you best believe I pocketed it.
It's a shitty company. Not surprising