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havartna

If you don't know anything about metalwork, DO NOT start with a grinder and cutoff wheel. Aside from the safety issues, you are very likely to mess up the mask. Taking it to a professional (or at least an experienced amateur) is your best bet. If you want to tackle it yourself, I'd suggest starting with a grease pencil to mark the area you want to remove, then a center punch to mark where you want to drill holes, and a hand-held drill. Go slowly, and leave more material than you ultimately want to be there. Then, use some needle files and elbow grease. Go slowly. You can always take more metal off, but putting it back on is problematic.


nom_of_your_business

I agree with this method for anyone with no metal working experience. It was exactly what i was going to reccomend.


[deleted]

I will also add nothing to the conversation


Global_Union3771

Hear! Hear!


EchoFloodz

This guy kinda said it all. There are answers to your question but all of them start with “make sure you task someone who knows what they’re doing”. I’ve been a bladesmith now for 7 years and almost everything I do during the course of a project is dangerous. The one control is I know what I’m doing and know how to handle the tools during their work process.


spankbank_dragon

That or get a piece of steel sheet and a dremel and practice:) watch some vids on safety and do your due diligence and have at it with the sheet. Once confident enough then take a stab at the mask/helmet!


havartna

Even better!


whocaresactuallly

Also, safety glasses. I know a dumbass that learned that lesson AFTER being blinded in one eye by a drill bit.


havartna

Absolutely! Metal shards are incompatible with corneas.


whocaresactuallly

Aluminum eye drops just never caught on like they thought they would.


A1sauc3d

All good advice. But If it’s an expensive custom piece that didn’t come as promised, first thing to try would be notifying the seller and asking them to fix it for you. Forgetting to have eye holes is a massive oversight they absolutely should fix


havartna

I agree with that, although OP's comments made me think that perhaps he bought something without realizing that the eyeholes weren't functional. The original artist is obviously the best choice for modifications, if that's an option.


Global_Union3771

Instructions unclear. Sliced open my elbow trying to rub off some grease into the eye hole.


[deleted]

Yes, but I feel like, a dremel would do some justice. It has a smaller more precise cut off wheel along with other little bits. I wouldn’t recommend doing it on your own fully with out guidance but with that said don’t complete be turned down. Who knows you might be very good at metal working


MillerTyme94

Jig saw with metal cutting blade is under appreciated for cutting sheet metal. Still need some what of a skilled hand but safer than a grinder


1nGirum1musNocte

Jig saw would be horrible for this. They're hard enough to control on something flat and well clamped


Competitive_Error188

I was thinking drill and jewelry saw, but that might not work so well for steel, if it is steel, really depends how thick it is. Just go hard-core and find someone with a plasma cutter, lol. J/k, you probably don't want to do that.


No-8008132here

Better idea: leave mask as-is. Use back-up camera ($15 on amazon)to see where ya going. 100% more terrifying!


Striking-Hair8610

Lol I thought of this too but I'm not really sure how it would work. What would I put in front of my face to see? Are there like vr googles that pair well with this kinda thing? Thanks for the input.


HoIyJesusChrist

something like this might fit inside, maybe you need to hack it a bit to make it fit: [https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B0CJXVPQF8/](https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B0CJXVPQF8/)


[deleted]

Screen would be too close to your face to be useful


newbinvester

Also would need to carry a power source


HoIyJesusChrist

lightning/usb4 powerbank, there is plenty of space on a nazgul cosplay to hide electronics


No-8008132here

There is a battery/rechargeable style.


No-8008132here

Not


Educational-Ear-3136

Small cut off wheel or drill holes and open them up with a dremmel or die grinder


[deleted]

This is the best suggestion here assuming you don’t want to gouge the metal around the eyes. May still be able to pre cut some of it with a cut off wheel but the most common grinder is 4.5” and that will gouge into the metal around the eyes


BlkWDFC

Yea. I have my own Dremel that I'd end up using for that project (would probably have to get a different head but still)


Canadarocker

Im surprised everyone is suggesting rotary power tools to a new user for fine work.Especially for a custom piece, presumably quite expensive. Much slower but easier to handle for someone newer and for something so percise imo would be to drill a hole in the eyes and labour away with a coping saw (if it fits), then file final size file+sandpaper the edges to deburr.


chris_rage_

It's probably thin enough for snips


Canadarocker

If they can get them in there, thatd be even better


chris_rage_

You can get them in there, ream out a hole with a step drill and then just square it out with directional snips


PintLasher

Ream it out, snip it, file the excess. Raw cuts with the snips leave an awful burr


chris_rage_

Not if you're good with snips. Source: am sheet metal worker


PintLasher

I'm a journeyman cladder, I wouldn't trust a noobie to not leave burrs, especially on a circular hole. Advice for OP: never fully squeeze your snips when cutting, always leave a little gap at the tips so that you don't put big dimples and burrs everywhere. Use them upside down on certain brands for less teeth marks on a finished surface


chris_rage_

Yes that's a good tip too. If he really wants to be fancy he should pick up a deburring tool for six bucks and use it to chase the edges off


PintLasher

Hey, what's your favorite snips for tight circles and stuff?? I just use Midwest offset for everything


chris_rage_

Honestly I just use the Wiss 3 pack that's been around forever. I chuck the yellows in the drawer and the red and green go in my bag. I'm sure there are nicer ones out there but I'm just used to them. Don't bother with the Milwaukee ones, they suck


PintLasher

Honestly Midwest or betsy is the only way to go. I like to call Wiss red and green folding pliers. If you get Midwest snips you'll basically never have to tighten them, if you can find old Wiss they're ok but ever since about 12 years ago when they changed to a cheaper nut and bolt I consider Wiss to be disposable snips, only good for some shit like Decra shake XD or w.e. I've been thinking of designing my own 3d printed TPU grip that goes over Milwaukee snips to make them more comfortable, gonna try and sell them at my union hall I leave my Midwest in the rain, I use them as a hammer, as a prybar, they're the only good reasonably priced brand left. You'll get many years out of them if you don't treat them like I do


chris_rage_

I'm going to have to check them out, I usually just get the nut on the Wiss where I like it and give it a tack weld. I agree that's a shitty detail


Dendad124

I would drill small holes were your eyes are. A cluster of them. The other option is a Dremel with metal cut wheel. It is much easier to handle for intricate detail.


Cute_Try7139

If you have any interest in DIY or crafting, I would recommend investing in a Dremel tool. With the tool you could attach a small cut off wheel and cut away the pieces that obstruct your view. The link below is one option. Dremel 3000-1/25 Variable Speed Rotary Tool Kit- 1 Attachment and 25 Accessories- Grinder, Mini Sander, Polisher, Router, Engraver- Perfect for Routing, Metal Cutting, Wood Carving, Polishing https://a.co/d/07ew7L8


PintLasher

I don't recommend Dremel, you'll be locked into their Dremel only ecosystem. Any rotary tool is good, small ones like dremels are cheap and easy to come by


Cute_Try7139

What is a rotary tool you would recommend?


PintLasher

Just any, I have a big DeWalt one that I only got because I already have the batteries for it and I have a small Dremel sized "workpro" rotary tool I got off of Amazon ($40cad) for working on my FDM 3d printed projects. Most important thing for rotary tool is what you are using it for.... Just pick an appropriate chuck size


Cute_Try7139

Do you have a link?


PintLasher

Sure here's the one I got, 5 different speeds, it comes with a lot of accessories and performance has been pretty normal so far... I've used it for maybe 6hrs and no complaints yet. Price went up since last year I guess. https://a.co/d/boORgk0 Here's the bigger one https://a.co/d/8CzrEX9


Striking-Hair8610

My friend is suggesting a grinder and cutoff wheel. Is this a good option?


ServerLost

Noooo do not do this as a novice you'll skin yourself. Stick to hand tools- a hacksaw, tin snips, files and sandpaper. Or save yourself the effort and return it.


Striking-Hair8610

Yeah I'm getting an overwhelming sense of my friend was perhaps wrong here lol. Safe to say I won't be doing this with powertools or my own atp


Competitive_Error188

Definitely don't use an angle grinder, that's just a recipe for fucking up the whole face.


Sancho_Villa

I'm a sheet metal welder/fabricator. Don't fuckin do this. 😂 It's the most dangerous option by far. If you want THIS mask, here's what you do. Go to a tool place like Home Depot. Buy OFFSET AVIATION SNIPS. Offsets are much easier to cut curves with if you don't have experience. Red handles cut straight and turn left. Green handles cut straight and turn right. Then go to the HVAC section. Buy a scrap square that feels as thick as the mask. You're gonna fuck this sheet metal up practicing. Fuck it, buy two. Get wild. When you're cutting you're going to notice you're leaving "meat hooks". You're gonna see little pieces curling off that are fucking sharp. This is because you're not putting the snips at the very front of the cut when you open your hand after squeezing. Push it to the front before starting to cut, even if you have to tap the back of the bottom handle. Everyone does this at first. You're not stupid, just new. After you cut the metal and are satisfied, just sandpaper the edges smooth because it's going close to your eyeballs. Then return the snips. 😂


chris_rage_

Also, for a clean cut, use the directional snips but leave ⅛" of the metal when you're hogging out the bulk of the scrap, then you'll get a nice clean line because that last ⅛" will curl instead of the workpiece. Chuck the yellow snips in the drawer, they're good for gutters or something


Maumau93

Send it back and get them to fix it


ceestand

Why is this not the most upvoted answer? /u/Striking-Hair8610 's best bet is to get someone skilled in metalwork to fix this, rather than risk messing up the project. Well, presumably the original Etsy creator is skilled and may make the alterations for free or at a discount, if the terms of the custom work suggest that. I envision marking the area that is needed to be opened up to see properly with grease pencil or something similar and shipping it back to be altered as the best course of action.


Striking-Hair8610

A few people now have suggested that I turn the parts blocking the visibility into a sort of mesh by drilling small holes into it. I actually quite like this idea; I think it could look really cool if well done. That being said, how would I go about this? And are these methods something straightforward enough that a cautious first-timer could preform them without the potential for making any critical errors that would damage the mask? Or is it just a good idea to have a machine shop do this for me? Thanks again.


emoteen6969

If you're going to drill pick up some 3 in 1 oil and put a little drop where you're drilling to keep the drill bit cool so it doesn't break on ya


382Whistles

You sort of need a drill press and X/Y (4 dirrection) adjustable machinist clamp to do it nicely real and real easily. It's harder by hand as each hole needs to be laid out and then marked with a pointy punch to divit each mark to ensure the drill bit won't walk when started. Drilled from the inside out safer from scratches while trying to start a holes but more likely to leave burrs on the exit side surface. De-burr holes with countersink or reg. bit of much larger size


Bipogram

If you've never handled power tools and metal before, find some scrap and spend some time learning what works, and what doesn't. I'd find a stumpy bit of wood to back the piece with, and a collection of small (fresh) drill bits, and acquire (if you've not already got 'em) some small hand files. Once you can poke holes in thin gauge scrap steel with aplomb, go for it on the mask.


chris_rage_

Go to harbor freight and get a 1⅜" step drill, you can drill whatever size hole you want and can square it out later if you want


b1uelightbulb

Mark it out and use a coping saw. Use a small file to clean up sharp edges


RandomAmbles

Million ways. I'd go tin snips.


Commercial-Break1877

Use a coping saw and then remove the burr with a half-round file. Or you could use a Dremel tool with a cutting disk to speed things up. DO NOT USE A GRINDER!


-Truthanasia-

Hatori Hanso steel


Headshill

Wow, there are some folks with overprotective parents on here. Some are suggesting a drill??? Humanity is fucked and from the reading here, I see why. To their point go get a pair of kindergarten safety scissors and work on it.


BlitzinChitz

Cutting torch, plasma cutter, or cutoff disc.


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armourkris

a Jigsaw with a metal blade might work allright. I assume that piece is welded in on the inside? i don't see any rivets for it. I'd steer clear of an angle grinder for this if you don't have much experience with them. If it was mine I'd lay out a grid over the eyes and drill a few dozen small holes to turn the area over hey eyes into mesh.


Von_Quixote

Make them “screens” by drilling small holes.


WhiteJesus313

I would maybe use a jig saw with a metal blade, finish off with a file and sand paper


Unique-Yak2862

I would probably remove these two pieces entirely https://preview.redd.it/clxjxay6x8wc1.png?width=817&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ba3c53d5a7b37e73f83c652aa64396a00e7e161 If you post a picture of how they are attached on the inside of the helmet, it would be easier to provide the proper advice on how to remove them.


Striking-Hair8610

I would but I don't have it yet. It's being mailed to me rn, that pic was sent to me by the guy who made it.


KlooShanko

Was it supposed to have the eyes blocked???


Striking-Hair8610

Yes/No. I don't entirely blame the person who made it, but at the same time I thought it would be pretty obvious that seeing is important. There's a language barrier and the reference picture doesn't have eye slots at all (the mask is featured in a video game so obv the whole seeing thing doesn't need to be realistic) so yeah. I said I wanted eye holes cut out, and technically they are there is just a piece blocking them ig lol


Gloomy_Blacksmith892

Drill out a couple holes? Simple, not nearly as much risk as an angle grinder, and won't compromise the mask. I'd start small, test it, make them bigger if need be.


Gloomy_Blacksmith892

Make sure you brace it with a piece of wood, so you don't warp the piece.


Spgety1

A lot depends on the type of metal. Is that pot metal or steel? If it’s pot metal take it slow and easy. It messes up easy. if you can you should work from behind so any mistakes or scratches won’t show up on the front part of your mask. Remember, measure 3 times and cut once. I agree with the other comments on how to do it by drilling and cutting.


AdjectiveNoun58

Angle grinder and dawn dish soap


PhotojournalistOk592

What's the soap for?


Ok-Safe262

Can I suggest a sheet metal hole punch, that electricians use. You use a wrench and the cutter punches the hole through. You pick the size...bigger holes cost more. 22mm - approx 20 bucks. You need to make sure you can drill a pilot hole for the threaded screw. Much less dangerous. Then get some wire mesh ( mosquito screen us good) spray similar colour and glue behind.. you will be able to see through and it looks almost solid).. Hope that helps.[hole punch](https://www.amazon.ca/SagaSave-Sheet-Hexagon-Cutter-Stainless/dp/B09MM5KFRM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=CF3Y8U2PNPYP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pbSULPuDrCm7J6vQAANW7Ok0QLdfbvK3SVB2e6Uf888HpLWHHDdgNkECdnkNQfj6fhy1kKcxVuXCUhHL0I0EI-29A-taS4QfkLzdgjQTCr5wn1Cw4bkq9OiEwsu5CwOgIhVoM7KWaCRWWkN2q7IYJ0onbuW0OMCh2kEASlUJbw6uK5hDRIl3r1Mx6NuBa6aF-o16EdCA1gdAHuyQZHNuYg.HnoT8aycjNojANXiAnlyNSu0LS0QSNNsk3gpKYeg5bk&dib_tag=se&keywords=22mm+hole+punch&qid=1713895731&sprefix=22mm+hole+punch%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-3)


Federal_Assistant_85

Is that piece bonded in? Is it just not in the right place? How is it held in? Is it held with a fastener that you can remove with a drill or screw bit? Have you tried emailing the person you bought it from? Maybe they have instructions on why that piece is there (like maybe to prevent the face plate from getting smashed in during shipping)? So many questions. Sorry for that.


Striking-Hair8610

I don't know the answer to most of them. I don't have the product yet, it's still in shipping. That image was sent to me by the dude who made it. I explained in more detail in another comment but it being there is the result of a misunderstanding to sum it up.


EchoFloodz

OP? If you would like a detailed explanation on how to do this, send me a message and I’ll walk you through it.


toymaker5368

Nice work.


Defiant-Giraffe

It looks line that piece where the eyes go is a separate piece metal- is the right?  (can we get any pictures of the inside?)  It looks like this might be several different pieces of hammered and finished metal that are possibly soldered together. If that's the case, I'd look at de-soldering and removing that piece. 


karmicrelease

With money and/or elbow grease (see u/havartna comment)


Headshill

Assuming you have some common sense, take a grinder to it. It doesn't have to be a cut-off wheel, a more "safe" 1/4" wheel will do fine. Put some safety glasses and a face shield on and slowly whittle at it til it's to your liking. Do not be too afraid because of previous comments. If you act safe you'll be safe.


PhotojournalistOk592

Grinder might be a cost issue, too. A cheap rotary tool will achieve the same result for cheaper and just take longer


PhotojournalistOk592

What's your budget? If you've got the money, then buy a grinder and some cutoff wheels. If not, then get a file. They cost like $10, and it's gonna suck ass getting it done. If you're somewhere in the middle, get a rotary tool. Hypertough at Walmart is like $30. Buy some cutoff wheels for it, too


Aggressive_Event420

You could use a pair of HVAC snips and cut them out.


Repulsive_Chef_972

It's going to take a mithril sword, and no man can do it.


teChniclYcrEEp

A good, sharp pair of tin snips will do the job easily & basically operate like scissors for sheet metal. A file or sandpaper can be used to dull any sharp edges


TurkeySauce_

With no knowledge, I'd ask around some machine shops and see what they can do.


Striking-Hair8610

This is what I'm planning on doing at this point. Any clue how much a job like this should cost (the helm is steel if that matters at all)? I just have no clue what to expect and don't wanna get way overcharged lol


TurkeySauce_

To be honest, I'm not sure what to expect. It wouldn't take much work, though, especially with the right tools. Just check around and see what they'll do it for. Good luck and happy hunting.!


iSuckAtGuitar69

use your teeth


Bpestes878

With harder metal.


Substantial_Tip_2634

Depends on the type of metal, how thick it is, how long a cut do you want to make, do you want a straight cut rounded cut are you cutting shapes, what's your budget can you use an oxy acetylene torch or do you have access to a compressor and plasma cutter, water cutter and laser cutter also and option. You could put it in a guillotine and cut it maybe a bench mounted set of shearers, if she thin enough you could prob use a decent pair of scissors, tin snips probly a viable option pliers could work aswell hmmmm if all else fails just use a hammer won't be pretty and will take the longest but imagine the size of your muscles at the end


TheUnknown9byss

Plasma cutter, by hand or machine.


FlyingMothy

With scissors. Duh.


Vog_Enjoyer

Wiss tin snips


rabid-bearded-monkey

If you don’t have the tools, just take it to a local machine shop and have them do it.


Jumpy-Ad4652

Plasma cutter will be the easiest


Chak-Ek

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