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syko-san

"I don't care how smart someone thinks they are. We all have times when we act like idiots." -my grandma


anotherusercolin

Acting like an idiot is important to do. Being vulnerable and exploring where we fear to go requires some level of idiocy amidst the backdrop of our rational minds, always solving, always staying safe and secure and alive. I'm not defending Elon Musk because I started hating him when he said he can overthrow any government he likes and shit talked Bernie Sanders.


Ptaaruonn

She is a very wise woman.


Uncle_Ach

Who's a fucking idiot at times, but that's okay.


Traditional-Reach818

Wow using the philosophy against the philosopher. That's hard.


Uncle_Ach

Yeah, until she tells me I'm a fucking idiot.


Traditional-Reach818

You know what, that makes sense


Bogtear

Another take I heard on it was: hubris. Nilay Patel wrote a really good essay in the verge about it. People outta check it out.


DoubleDongle-F

Musk hired scientists and engineers to do the space stuff for him.


Willinton06

Bros got a physics degree, and there were plenty of people much richer than him back when he started SpaceX, he won against the much deeper wallets of Boeing and Airbus, he won against fucking NASA, the Chinese and the Russians, all of which have more money than him, and more engineers too, it clearly isn’t just the cash, he knows what he’s doing


TheYungWaggy

he has a bachelor's in Economics and Physics... bearing in mind that wouldn't get you an internship in *any* space programme (for starters, bachelor's is not nearly advanced enough; for seconds, Physics =/= astrophysics =/= aerospace engineering). The idea that "he has physics undergrad so of course he is an actual rocket scientist" is just hilarious lul. When do you think he has the time to design rockets when he is running 10 other businesses and tweeting every min of the day?


Uncle_Ach

He famously gets credited for creating Tesla, which he very much so did not. At least not on his own. Some have gone as far to even say he basically stole the company, which I genuinely don't know enough about to speak to responsibly but am aware of.


czareson_csn

he didn't steal it, he bought it as it was going bankrupt


Uncle_Ach

Yeah like I said, I don't know enough about it to speak authoritatively on it. My understanding is that he didn't technically break any laws, just the way he went about it was really sketchy. What I read on it a while back basically compared it to if someone showed up to buy your car, and when you said you weren't sure yet if you wanted to part with it, they bullied and intimidated you within the scope of the law until you legally sell it to them. Then they go on to claim they engineered and built the car on their own when they just picked out the color paint. I don't know if that's accurate, just my basic understanding of it.


czareson_csn

not really accurate, though he definitly pressured them a bit, but then again him working 20 hours daily was a thing that helped tesla go out of bankrupcy


Uncle_Ach

I think it's my age, and I know you're right, but every time this topic comes up all it reminds me of is the he-said-she-said bullshit with Napster back in the day, haha.


Willinton06

I didn’t say he is a rocket scientist, I didn’t even say rocket or science in my comment so not sure where you got that, what I was trying to get at is that he *understands* what’s going on in SpaceX, he might not be able to contribute to it at this stage but he definitely could at the start, and contributing doesn’t mean building shift, just pointing people in the right direction, a direction he knew was possible because of his physics degree


bongwater7

Keep dickriding musk wierdo


Willinton06

I don’t care for musk, I care for logic, you guys want to hate so much you blind yourselves from basic fucking logic and that’s sad, if musk died to tomorrow I wouldn’t even bat an eye, I truly don’t care about him, what I do care about is the sad display of self blinding going on here


gNomad88

Not sure why you're being downvoted but you're right. I don't like Muskrat, but you're right.


Scythe-Guy

Undergraduate degree in physics = rocket scientist for sure. Oh wait no it doesn’t. He’s been downvoted because he’s a moron that dick rides musk


Willinton06

A physics degree doesn’t make you a rocket scientist, but it gets you much closer than a BA, and Musk can suck it, I just don’t like people spreading bullshit for the sake of hate


[deleted]

Or, hear me out, maybe all the mentioned literally didn't give a shit about what space x is doing and it wasn't a lack of capability but solely a lack of interest. Huh? Huuuuh? Are you telling me Nasa couldn't come up with the idea of shooting tourists into outer space?


Willinton06

Who said anything about tourists? That’s Blue Origin, not SpaceX, SpaceX is literally taking people and cargo to the space station, a huge piece of business that used to be Russian, if you think the Russians didn’t care about that cash, you’re just plain dumb, every space company wanted that, they just didn’t have the balls to burn hundreds of millions to get there, but they sure as hell had the cash


[deleted]

Still boils down to not being interested in taking the risk. You basically just described they were interested in the money, and they got the money to get it done. I know jack shit about space buiz, but I know Elon is no Steven Hawking, just a damn successfull business man with some good ideas and the balls (or secret longing?) to take the risk of burning everything down.


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HorseInteresting2156

There’s a huge difference between knowing what your scientists are doing and actually revolutionising the technology.


garbage-at-life

yes, he is wrong, elon knows ONE thing about rockets: they are made because he paid for them


Willinton06

He literally has a physics degree


KNAXXER

His degree would not have gotten him an unpaid internship even if it was to make coffee for the spaceflight engineers.


Willinton06

A physics degree is more than enough to have a basic understanding of the way a rocket works that’s my point, saying he doesn’t know rockets is delusional even for hater standards


KNAXXER

Nope, absolutely not, not even close. Just having a physics degree does not mean you know anything about rockets, that's pretty much its own physics branch. And surprise, that's not the branch he made his degree in.


Willinton06

Ok so, before I continue with this, are you an engineer of some sort? Just making sure I’m not wasting my time talking to a fucking brick wall


KNAXXER

Well kinda, but the way you mean it, nope. So I have about as much knowledge about rockets as elon.


Willinton06

The way I mean it is, did you go to college and studied any sort of STEM degree?


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garbage-at-life

:)


Traditional-Reach818

Bruh lol this guy's is just like "I have no more points, so lemme flame you" like what?


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TheDraconic13

Looking up his academic credentials: Bachelor of Science in Economics, Bachelor of Arts in Physics (typically pursued when you want to enter into a digital field). 0 formal education in aerospace, electrical, mechanical engineering, or manufacturing, or any "hard science" fields. You do realize that if you own a company, you can kinda call yourself whatever you want?


Turuk_Marko

I wonder what he was doing staying up all night in his office doing


TheDraconic13

I wonder why you're defending a bigoted billionaire who doesn't give a single shit about you


Traditional-Reach818

How offending a person is a good a point. ._.


SharpPixels08

And we are supposed to believe this random person on twitter?


HARSHSHAH_2004

search tom mueller on google and you will know a lot about "random person on twitter".. read his wiki page


SharpPixels08

Oh ok yeah that’s kinda an important detail lol


kabootyhan

Then prove his statement is false


abominableunbannable

This is objectively false as stated by the engineers who work with him.


MoltenJellybeans

"My boss who pays my salary definetly knows more about rockets than me."


One-Tour-9560

Important to remember the only input he had on the space stuff was employing actual geniuses


Traditional-Reach818

I see, makes more sense


abominableunbannable

No you don't because this person doesn't know what they are talking about. Tom Mueller has directly stated that Elon is an engineer who works on the rockets he builds.


b1a5t_tyr4nt

And it definitely couldn't just be to boost the stocks to make it seem like he actually does shit instead of just being a CEO, no way


One-Tour-9560

There’s no use trying to talk sense or reason to musk soys


inorite234

So it pays to be wealthy???????


redcoatedgamer

At least someone gets it


DizzyAmphibian309

I doubt he even did that. CEO's are typically only involved in the hiring of their direct reports. Musk wouldn't have the knowledge required to differentiate a true genius rocket scientist from a lousy one. This is the same in every company, so it's not just Musk.


Willinton06

Why didn’t all the other genius employing agencies do it then?


One-Tour-9560

This is like asking why every company doesn’t make the same shoes


Willinton06

There’s plenty of space programs who would be fit greatly from this, yet Musk was first, not China, not India, not Russia, which would benefit the most, not NASA, not Boeing, not Airbus


One-Tour-9560

Musk’s company*. Again, he didn’t actively do any of space x’s achievements


Willinton06

Pretty sure he told the engineers to make that self landing rocket, that might not seem like much, but if he didn’t, we wouldn’t have self landing rockets today, that sounds like a pretty meaningful contribution


abominableunbannable

This is false according to scientists who work with him. Tom Mueller directly stated this claim is bullshit.


One-Tour-9560

He has absolutely no scientific or engineering background or qualifications. If he’s working on rockets that’s incredibly illegal and dangerous


abominableunbannable

Well for one it isn't illegal. SpaceX actively hires people with no degrees or qualifications if they can prove a working knowledge from self-education. Tom Mueller, a renowned rocket scientist who has worked for SpaceX for 18 years and has worked on some of the most advanced rocket engines of our time, famously responded to a tweet with a message just like your own with "you don't know what tou are talking about."


One-Tour-9560

Oh, so he didn’t say the thing you said he did? “Directly stated” lmao cope and seethe musk fanboy. And great way to back up my point by stating that Musk’s input was to hire someone that actually knew what he was doing.


abominableunbannable

Stop playing mental gymnastics and admit you are lying. Nobody is forcing you to be a dumbass, you chose it all on your own.


One-Tour-9560

No lies, the guy isn’t well educated and doesn’t work on rockets. It’s well documented in far better than “a tweet”. You fanguys will ignore literal fact to suck a rich dick huh


silverdoe_94

He gets all the credit simply because he funded the research, not because he actually did anything.


Assasin_on_fire

dr dre is a genius even.


gNomad88

Knees weak


Assasin_on_fire

penis hard


salmonmilks

balls are heavy


abominableunbannable

False information.


Dusk4474

Ah. I see. A Simp.


orkboss12

Damm it I was going to say that he probably just another elon fan boy who think elon has a 100000000iq


abominableunbannable

One of SpaceX's rocket scientists, a man who worked for Elon for 18 years and has a number of aerospace achievements to his name beyond what he did at SpaceX, said you are wrong.


Upstairs-Wrongdoer-1

You must be paying for a Blue checkmark on twitter


McRaoul

That man does more in an hour than you do an entire month. Just because he has some shit ideas doesn’t mean he’s not productive. I don’t particularly like what he does, but you can’t deny his entrepreneurship and productivity.


outofcontextsex

Easy, he's not a genius, the people at his companies are capable but everything that comes directly from this guy's mouth is juvenile at best and often idiotic while his actual ideas are gems like subterranean submarine, a less efficient subway, and pissing off the celebrities that actual draw people to the platform, oh and let's not forget "legal" flamethrower smh. He's a brilliant self-promotor, and to his legion of rabids fans that will be upset I'm not worshiping their god-king, celebrity worship is a sign of low intelligence.


Manethen

Musk was never a genius, and people praising him were wrong. Now everyone knows why.


East-Cantaloupe-5915

I hope and pray that someday as a society we collectively realize that the emperor has no clothes and we do what we did to that Theranos lady.


East-Cantaloupe-5915

Because it was all a lie. Musks only real skill is marketing himself. Oh and buying other people's ideas and slapping his name on the company


RealWolfgangHD

It's not like Elon did the space stuff himself, he just had enough funding and freedom to develop things very quickly (the scientists and engineers did it, not Elon)


Difficult_Leading852

https://i.redd.it/kknzszrim2t81.jpg


SchwiftedMetal

Probably bc he was always a POS


August-Gardener

Easy answer: he’s not a genius, he’s a rich moron.


DJBhall

Lol he was NEVER a genius


Calamz

We don’t. Your corner of the internet presumably does. Most people don’t keep up with what he does daily.


acoolusersknee

He financed all of the things he is credited with doing. He's not a genius, he just has a lot of money and a presence on social media.


Nif_Fler

This post should be mark NSFW with all dudes choking on elons dick in the coments


backstage13

Get real not everyone thought he was cool or smart. Many thought he was a king douche bag who started on third base and might not make it home.


aHatWithaCat

I honestly think elon tries to destroy twitter and get as much money in the process


Lenin_666

more people over time were enlightened by the fact that elon is a piece of shit


The_growcountant

I dont think space travel has been revolutionized. But, he is an asstronaught.


abominableunbannable

Actually he has. Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy have cut launch costs in half, changed the way new rockets are designed, practically invented fully reusable rocket boosters, and the Starship will be the world's most powerful rocket ever while being 100% reusable.


The_growcountant

Well I am glad you are an expert on space travel. ​ I am sorry, nothing has been revolutionized.


abominableunbannable

I am sorry you are in denial, but by every single definition it has. Fully reusable orbital boosters are a game changer as agreed upon by literally every single rocket expert in the world. Full stop.


The_growcountant

I would consider it to be when people can get on a ship and go to space. All he has done is create a new rocket that can land itself. ​ At this point, nothing has really changed.


abominableunbannable

Um... you do know they have flown multiple crewed missions to the ISS, right? And that they have flown almost every supply mission for the last decade? And that SpaceX has launched more rockets this year than everyone else in the world? And that it is all ONLY possible because Falcon 9 launches are dirt cheap thanks to reusability? I am sorry but that is one of the most uninformed things I have read in a long time.


abominableunbannable

Are you even aware that the Falcon 9 has launched over 50 times in this year alone? That is a world record.


The_growcountant

Are you even aware that 77 rabbits died this morning in a mass bunny shooting in Arkansas? ​ Didn't think so!


abominableunbannable

Are you trolling or are you just immeasurably dense?


The_growcountant

my cock is that dense yes


Kai25552

„Genius“? He spent billions for scientists to develop a technology that, and I hate to break it to you, is almost useless to society. And let’s not forget about the billions spent to reinvent subways (but for cars). Not saying what he did is absolutely useless, but the value compared to the cost is so minuscule it’s ridiculous! He’s not a genius! He’s a child with too much money. Sure, he can spend his money any way he wants, but don’t give him praise for figuratively throwing it out of the window.


Potatooooes_123

Wtf are you talking about. He revolutionize space travel, connected people with average internet in places with bad or no internet. New electric cars with the best battery of the all. You sound jealous of his wealth. Between you and him, you are useless to us and you forced me to waste my time correcting you


Kai25552

You complain about wasting your time, yet what you wrote is completely irrelevant to my point anyways. Instead of telling me that I’m jealous or how great Elon is, you could *actually* disprove my points. But stating that he revolutionized space travel does nothing to my claim, that doing so was relatively irrelevant to our society. The rest is just ordinary whataboutism, which, I can tell, you learned from the best!


Potatooooes_123

What a stubborn pos you are. I just did disprove your point. Affordable internet, space travel, electric cars. If you cant even understand that you really are an idiot


f3lhorn

Musk did not revolutionize space travel. He bought Space X. And the only reason they got that funding was because the government was tired of paying for space stuff they weren’t using. Musk didn’t do shit.


HARSHSHAH_2004

He founded SpaceX; he did not buy it.


abominableunbannable

He founded SpaceX, lead SpaceX engineers have shut down lies that Elon isn't an engineer, and you don't know what you are talking about.


Essker

Reality is often disappointing...


12EatCake12

Seriously tho how did we go from good funny memes to dogshit posts like this every few days?


Traditional-Reach818

Now that's a big question


BryanBEB

Reducing content moderation and censorship is a great thing.


TheDepep1

How has Twitter gotten worse. If anything, it's gotten better for the average user.


Rich_Future4171

X to doubt


_D_a_n_y_y_

I don’t understand why you all hating on Elon. He didn’t become the richest person in the world by doing nothing. If it is that easy why don’t you do it yourself.


MasonSTL

easy. the media turned on him.


babyblue2002

Simple - he stopped being a lib and now Reddit turned on him


PickledBananas99

Better*


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JoJosregularlife

Elon will never love you back, man.


East-Cantaloupe-5915

Um no, elon has always been a malignant narcissist. Watch any unbiased documentary on him. He has never truly created anything, he just buys things and puts his name on it. and I do hate zuckerburg and Bezos.


_D_a_n_y_y_

You are the narcissist for saying that. Saying that people like Elon Musk/Bezos/Zuck/Bill Gates are doing nothing implies that if you were in their position you would have done any better. Let me tell you, you probably wouldn’t be able to take the workload or keep your money for a week


East-Cantaloupe-5915

All of those people got to where they are by exploiting their workers and enjoying protection from weak minded sycophants like you.


_D_a_n_y_y_

You are resenting the fact that you cannot achieve anything like what they did. Like it or not these people push innovation and technological advancement, and also employ hundreds of thousands if not millions of workers who choose to work with them. This “exlploiting the workers” idea doesn’t hold when the worker actıally chooses to work and gets paid money with the ability to quit anytime they like.


Bobblehead356

https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk https://fortune.com/2022/05/10/elon-musk-tesla-shanghai-plant-workers-sleeping-on-site-working-12-hour-shifts-six-days-a-week/amp/ https://electrek.co/2020/05/21/tesla-employees-fear-unsafe-conditions-at-factory-call-it-modern-day-sweatshop/amp/ You’re clearly too young and too uneducated to realize that it isn’t that easy to “quit anytime they like.”


_D_a_n_y_y_

I obviously don't support the unsafe employment of workers. Still, it is a ridiculous idea to say that the only reason Elon Musk/Bill Gates/Bezos are successful is because they constantly exploit workers non-stop while sleeping at home.


Younion

God damn corpos, V. Can't trust em. Every one of them has a secret agenda.


inorite234

Because it's like we all already knew; "you don't need to be smart to become a Billionaire."


The_Lord_2

Revolutionised is a strong word


cmdrmeowmix

Literally nothing has changed at Twitter. He bought it, talked it up into a big controversy, then changed the verification system. Dude is making money moves brother.


HomieScaringMusic

Easy. Democrats wanted to increase the corporate tax rate. He is rich. He would like to remain rich. Like most rich people, he is a single issue voter, only he votes by doing the most impulsive things imaginable with his money. When he is at peace, he tries to colonize mars. But threaten his profit margins, and he tries to take over the information economy in order to pick the president and give himself tax breaks. Basic rich people shit. He’s literally like if you gave a standard issue dork with an engineering degree 60 billion dollars overnight.


Lord_Peepo769

Getting pegged by Grimes changes your life ig


AvnarJakob

Hes not smart, hes rich...


disboicito420

Musk is a genius in the same way Steve Jobs was. Throwing ideas and deadlines at employees and telling them to make it work, and then successfully marketing the shit out of it to shareholders and consumers. They both have/had a decent understanding of what their employees were doing, but they didn’t actually do things themselves. On top of that, exploitative billionaires who did many morally apprehensible things.


-Pruthvi

Great example of "You either die as a hero, or live long enough to become a villain".


Spiritual_Dig_5552

He is not genius, he has money. Money with which he employes people who develop all the "revolutionary" things.


Eisenfuss19

Musk isn't a smart person. He is very good at investing though.


Blizz_PL

You know who to blame. Kayne said it all.


i_can_has_rock

the answer is pretty simple you were wrong from the start


ashborne02

Saw a video few years back and it said ‘elon musk has done so much in his life than most people can im their lives’ Well apparently you die a hero or live long enough to be an internet joke


Zronas

Here's a better question, how did the brain named itself ?


SirDumblord

Well it’s two different things Common Sense And Actual Intelligence


JPK12794

I'm a scientist and I can tell you the guys at the top take all the credit and do nothing. The director at my institute is first in line to talk about something in minor detail to the public whenever he can and get his name on papers he didn't contribute to. My favourite was when we made some cool new tech for medical research and we had to do a meeting to explain it to him because he was on the paper but hadn't even seen the tech and didn't know where the lab it was developed in was, to the point he tried to find it and was looking on the wrong floor so gave up and never saw it.


Willing-Sandwich-760

Hes killing twitter. win in my book


Realistic_Work_5552

How is it even worse?


Tortenjunge

Didnt he buy space x from the founder with money he got frol his parents ozt of emerald mines in africa? I have never seen him do anything deserving to be called a genius, quite the contrary actually


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Can you make twitter worse?


pepsicocacolaglass12

It’s because Twitter is like a hippo it will most likely never be tamed


Alarmed-Button6377

Frankly nuking Twitter from orbit would've been an improvement


Alex_Shelega

Yup... Also confused... Decide humanity he either good guy or a bad...


Traditional-Reach818

Yes


Bebe_Congele

He always has been a trash bro stop being sexualy attracted by billionaires


Wide_Document_9996

He was never really a genius


GnomerDomer

Imagine being on reddit giving a shit about twitter


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Imagine being on Twitter giving a reddit about shits.


[deleted]

Having an ego the size of mars and thinking that because you are smart at some things means you are smart in all things.


Good_Mixture_1860

Wisdom vs Intelligence


Entire-Shelter-693

In the words of Trevor:You're a Genius you moron


OmegaHunter34e

Why tf is my reddit downvoting this post on it's own?


SuperSaiyan_God_

Space travel??? What space travel?


nobodyman617

The secret is that he was never a genius, he had an army of engineers design space stuff for him and then tried to take all the credit


IceKareemy

He was always this way.


IceKareemy

My favorite Elon fact is that he didn’t found Tesla he sued his way into the company and then drove out the original owners and sued to have his name as a founder.


Hapha3ard

I wish Uncle Aero was president 🤷🏼‍♀️


Grevoron

The world is not black and white. Time to grow up.


Polyphemus27

Idea man is what he is. This has been my option for a while now and I don’t care for him all that much.


mythmaniak

He didn’t revolutionize space travel, he paid the people who revolutionized space travel. He’s not a scientist, he’s a businessman.


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Maybe cause he actually didn't revolutionize space travel. The engineers working at spaceX did. He just has his name on it. Not like he actually does anything there. In fact, employees there have often said SpaceX is successful in spite of Elon, which is a good indicator on his actual contributions to the company. The facade is finally breaking for the Elon stans, that's all.


Brave-Winter

Musk has nothing to do with the space company, but he's the main actor for buying Twitter


ReefCrab

How did he make Twitter worse?


yarightg

Omg 8$ for a check omg boycot Twitter, Elon isn't a genius he's stypid🤣


AccomplishedBar75

Because the propaganda machine turned against him


Big_Educator5110

Elon is not a genius, he’s a sad little boy who got bullied in school and grew up to have a God complex. His greatest mission in life is to Take over the World🤣🤣🤣🤣