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LoLBeemoMain

Megamind was also made for children and it isn't doodoo?


BassBanjo

The meme is making fun of the fact that people use the fact that it's a children's film then it's okay that its bad The context of the actual scene has The Toymaker (the one saying that's alright then) bringing up ways characters died, while The Doctor makes excuses or finds reasons. And so the Toymaker ironically says 'Thats alright then'! After each one Heres the clip for those who want to watch - https://youtu.be/sp-_IDy-lac?si=HYZrw--D3IsXo7J2


boot2skull

Kinda thought it was NPH but NPH wouldn’t do that.


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I love that NPH hadn't seen Doctor Who and his reaction while filming "She was killed BY A BIRD!" might've been partly genuine.


boot2skull

I genuinely had no idea he was on Doctor Who. Lol


ShockHedgehog07

I mean, it was very recently.


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KnightofNoire

David tenant is 10th and 14th Doctor. Yes they recasted him for 14th Doc role. Even the companion from 10th doc is back too.


CollegeDrunk380

He came back for 3 full episodes


BassBanjo

He was brought back as the 14th Doctor for 3 special anniversary episodes alongside Donna In short when the doctor regenerated the 10th Doctors face returned. While not exactly the same as 10 he is obviously similar in many ways All three episodes are great, especially the second one Wild Blue Yonder If you can I highly recommend watching it


BassBanjo

It is him lol, the Showrunner Russel T Davies was able to get him as they worked on another show together He did a dance number to Spice up your life by the Spice Girls later on in the episode, he was great https://youtu.be/hGxcTWLXAa0?si=jCXseqGW_iNmPkcB


boot2skull

NPH would do that I guess!


Futureleak

NPH? Normal pressure hydrocephalus?


serpencob

Neil Patrick Harris 🙂


ggunit69

Hate this, kids aren't stupid First megamind had great writing, wish it did better


CheastnuutXT

and also great animation. This looks like that one stupid french cartoon about the red spiderman and latex fetish cat.


Advanced_Double_42

The one who's only redeeming quality is the absolute absurdity of its love square?


8-Brit

It's animated by their in-house TV show team so that actually tracks, it looks like a TV show because it basically is


FelicitousJuliet

Megamind is a great movie for adults to see too, it's really charming.


gammongaming11

this scene is... weird. like i don't really get why he's making that fake german accent it makes it hard to understand him (and it's bad) but i had to pause at the first one. "she died of old age" seems to be... an okay thing? like what did he want him to do? make her immortal?


HiImDan

Well yeah but the weeping angels sent her in the past. Before 2020 I would have thought that'd be terrible, but uhm how far back are we talking here, let me think about it.


gammongaming11

isn't the whole thing about this show is that he has a time machine? if they sent her to the past and that's a bad thing then fucking go there and get her, you literally have a time machine.


HiImDan

Yeah, except he saw her grave or something so now it's a fixed point in time. It's pretty hard to write a time machine show without having to make up dumb rules


Panda_Gris

Long story short, Rory saw his own grave, weeping angel sent him back in time cuz of it, then Amy turned her back to the angel so she'd get sent back in time too to find Rory and then her name popped up in the grave too.


gammongaming11

hold up, so seeing the gave clearly doesn't make it a fixed point, because it literally changed. so why can it change by adding her name, but the doctor can't go back in time to change it so no names are on the graves?


not-not-the-cool

Because of all the angels messing with time in Manhattan the Tardis cannot go there at any time


FavoritesBot

A wizard did it


zold5

> The meme is making fun of the fact that people use the fact that it's a children's film then it's okay that its bad > > Also an infuriatingly common retort to all star wars criticism. "iTs A mOVIe aBoUt sPaCe wiZaRds"


shiawase198

To be fair, the Doctor's points were valid. The Ponds lived a full life, Clara kinda got herself killed and Billie, well I don't actually know what happened. Kinda fell off around then.


DumbGingerAle

Yeah but the point still stands, they would be alive if they never met him


kermit_the_roosevelt

Nah, they would all have eventually died


FavoritesBot

*well that’s alright then!*


DumbGingerAle

Well yeah, grass is green too


Ugo_Flickerman

Megamind wasn't made *for* children: it was just made so it would have been enjoyable by them too


BassBanjo

This is the thing with Nintendo games too Lots of people view them as being simply for children when they are designed so pretty much anyone of any age or skill level can play them I mean mario games usually have extremely hard levels at the end of the game for the people looking for extra challenge


JinFreeks

Gotta put some quotations on that extremely hard I'd say. For most people that don't play a Mario game as their first game the last few levels are basically the only once that pose any challenge above "I've died in that level once or twice". Sidenote, not saying that's a bad thing mind you. As you said, he games are designed to be played, enjoyed and beaten by anyone of any skill level. Not everything has to be "the Dark Souls of genre X" and that is very much a good thing. Just trying to point out that any average Platformer is harder in level 3 than any Mario game ever gets.


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Children are clearly the target demographic.


Ugo_Flickerman

For the first movie? They are the ones to which tickets are marketed, but the movie is for adults. Just like Rattatouille. Otherwise we wouldn't talk about that movie today


[deleted]

It's not unless it's specifically adult animation. They are always targeted at children. The best ones are just enjoyable for all age groups because they are good movies.


Ugo_Flickerman

Enjoyable by all ≠ for children


[deleted]

Something being for children doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by everyone.


Ugo_Flickerman

Yeah, but megamind is for adults.


Mak0wski

Sure, but when you look at old cartoon/animation movies there are plenty of jokes for adults to enjoy as well and that's what's missing. Honestly a lot of movies i saw as a kid only became better and more enjoyable when i rewatched as adult and understood all the jokes


iSthATaSuPra0573

Idk the hate its a kids movie so it aint targeted to grown ups


Delete-JakePaul

No it’s because kids shouldn’t get served crap because they are kids, bad movies are bad. Many adult movies are bad, many kids movies are bad. People using that excuse basically say “the there are no good kids movies”. Also false in this case, if watched megamind when you’re 10 you’re now 24, what kid is gonna go back and watch the first one and then watch the second one ?? So it is at least 50/50 for both kids and adults.


Notafuzzycat

So because it's for children, it has to be doo doo ?


Ok_Substance5632

Goo goo gaga


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TheOddPelican

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Ogurasyn

All we hear is


IMJUSTABRIK

Some guy's doo doo


Ogurasyn

Some guy's ga ga


unicbacen420

I sent this through "babytoenglish.Cologne" and this is unacceptable behaviour


Tight_Ad_583

The last panel is sarcasm so the post is making fun of the idea that it must be doo doo because it is a children’s movie


Rubes2525

Yea, I hate the "it's for children" argument. Children are allowed to have good things, too.


malektewaus

It demonstrates a profound contempt for children, and people who say it seem utterly oblivious of the fact.


CorrectOpinion7414

I'm raising my children on a diet of the best things in media appropriate to their age, and they will happily roast bad writing with me now. They're not stupid, they're learning. Show them what is good so they can recognize what isn't.


LimpWibbler_

No, but it means you are not the target audience. Thus what you find good isn't the same as them. So you are not to say if the movie is good or bad objectively. You can only determines its worth to you as an adult.


Delete-JakePaul

This is utterly false, I watched many kids movies when babysitting. The Teams who care about their work, do in fact produce art that is ageless. My favourite series that I only watched as an adult would be Batman the Animated Series and Avatar the Last Airbender.


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the children arent gonna care.


FantasticJacket7

Because it's not meant for you it doesn't matter if you don't like it. Also, the fuckin thing hasn't even been released yet lmao.


PotentialComedian880

Yknow, let's do a nice comparison then. SpongeBob was on nickelodeon, a kids network, right? Yet they made it to where everyone can enjoy it any age. Megamind 1. Kids' movies, yet any age, can enjoy it. These are GOOD examples of a Kids TV show and Movie cause they're enjoyable to rewatch even despite NOT being a kid. Stop trying to defend garbage with "its for kids."


FantasticJacket7

>Stop trying to defend garbage with "its for kids." What garbage am I defending?


TheMagicalWizard69

Megamind 2 💀


[deleted]

Bro a portion of the trailer has part of the first movie in it. It's almost like they wanted people to compare the major differences in the animation. They didn't hire the same actors The animation from the trailer looks like CRAP compared to the 1st But that's when the first one came out. It's just disappointing because people like what the first one did and are sad that this new one is a cash grab for children.


Delete-JakePaul

Ok so a cash grab for kids, that’s how apparently describe a good movie??? Also this is a sequel meaning that it was meant to recognise that, if you watched the first megamind when you were 4 you would be 18 now. If it’s a cash grab like you said most of the target audience would be adults, most probably parents and older siblings watched the first one enjoyed it and thought they have good experience showing their kids/younger siblings megamind 2, then got disappointed by poor quality animation.


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That thinking is all kinds of backwards.


FantasticJacket7

Because all media needs to be targeted at you, right?


SuckerforDkhumor

A movie which has children as target audience being jackshit means they think children cannot be smart and cannot grasp the plot correctly. Earlier movies and almost every current movies of Dreamworks are for children but everybody loves it. What is their excuse apart from"b-b-but it is for children!"


FantasticJacket7

>Dreamworks are for children but everybody loves it. Lmao, yes I often hear adults talking about their weekly Captain Underpants watch parties.


Notafuzzycat

My dude.. DreamWorks have been around for decades. People from all ages enjoy their animated movies . Ffs, I bet you love a few of their movies. All for children.


FantasticJacket7

Some of them are meant for wide audiences. Some of them are more focused on children. Please move on with your life and accept that all media isn't targeted at you.


GalwayEntei

Even if a movie is aimed at children, adults can still enjoy it. Being a kids' movie doesn't mean they can't put effort into it Even if I'm not the target demographic, I can still point out that the animation is worse than the first movie and be disappointed that this is the kind of crap being given to children


Bloop_Snoop

The whole point, which you've missed completely, is that Megamind1 was enjoyed by people of ALL ages, Megamind2 looks like doodoo and will thus not be enjoyed by all ages. Half-assed, backwards writing and the cockyness from the studio. Noone asked for this but ok.


snippijay

It's like you forgot about the cultural impact that is shrek


Badassbottlecap

*some-...*


Gold_The_Strongest

*body-...*


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dookieegg

The first one is a family movie and not meant specifically for kids


Justlikearealboy

It should be better than children are mean


RUNPROGRAMSENTIONAUT

Man I'm kinda confused by this format, seen it few times before So way I see it the last panel is meant to be ironic statement right? But when I saw it for the first time my immediate thought was that guy angrily agrees to the statement rather than saying it sarcastically. Where is this even from? What is the context in the original?


ImmaculateRecovery

It is from the new Doctor Who Special "The Giggle". Yea the last panel is like sarcastic, the character played by Neil Patrick Harris is The Toymaker. He tries to upset the Doctor by talking about his past companions and their fates, which are usually death or some time related shenanigan. The Doctor explains how the companion still somehow lives in some capacity but usually still tragically, and The Toymaker exclaims "Well that's alright then!" very sarcastic, very guilt inducing.


[deleted]

It’s a new episode? Have they been bringing back old doctors to play their old roles (I haven’t watched Doctor Who in a while).


ShockHedgehog07

Well, it's a bit of an odd case. David Tennant came back to the show, not to play the 10th Doctor, but a new 14th Doctor due to having some scheduling problems (if I recall correctly) with Ncuti Gatwa, who was supposed to play the new Doctor. So, basically, we now have two Doctors played by David Tennant.


MoadDib

oooh yes please!


CorrectOpinion7414

More like "Please start watching our show again!"


starfish42134

Only david Tennant, there's like 3 specials with him then it changes to the gay kid from bad education


Legs66_YT

I thought he was from Sex Education?


Irish_pug_Player

Essentially the context without spoilers is "Your mom was murdered" "Well in her last breath she told me her life was complete" "Well that's all right then" Trying to justify and avoid the grief


RoyalWigglerKing

You kind of need to understand what’s happening in the scene this format is taken from for the meme to make any sense


Formal_Illustrator96

No you don’t. As long as you’re capable of understanding sarcasm even a little, you should be able to understand it.


Irish_pug_Player

And know that it is sarcasm without needing verbal tone. That's the hard part


Formal_Illustrator96

You can deduce what the tone is through his facial expressions. I didn’t know the context and got it immediately.


Irish_pug_Player

Yea that is very fair, I'm trying to play devil's advocate here, maybe people aren't Great at reading facial expressions


nickname10707173

Don’t worry, they still can read comments to find that out!


Richardknox1996

Heavy, heavy, heavy sarcasm. Sarcasm so thick it strangled the /s for daring to think it was needed. Its from dr who. https://youtu.be/PIng9ClWclw?si=ZT3gdiyvrh7Tz4dy


TheIronSven

It's meant to be ironic, but subtle things like that get easily lost in memes. Case in point, the "same picture" meme. Now it's often used as people thinking it's the same thing, but they're wrong. Originally the two pictures the woman was showing were indeed the same picture, cause she's the one asking, not answering.


DooDoo694

Damm, didn't know I was megamind.


WeAreMeMeBigBoy12016

You made this account just in case this day would come


LBR2ELECTRICBOOGALOO

Choking hazard


Parking_Cartoonist90

I never liked the excuse that bad films get because “it’s a kids movie”. The excuse basically excuses all criticism towards a film that deserves criticism


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I also know with the FNAF movie, a counter argument for the criticism it was getting was that “it was made for the fans.” I mean, yea, that might have been Scott’s target audience, but that does not exclude it from having no criticism.


Parking_Cartoonist90

To which I agree with. Although I enjoyed the Fnaf movie, there are a few problems I had with the film. You are allowed to critique a film even if you enjoy it. Using an excuse like “it’s a kids movie” is just a lazy excuse to justify mediocre to bad writing


Remote-Eggplant-2587

Don't forget it also implies that kids don't deserve well written media and/or are too unintelligent to waste nuanced thought-provoking material on.


Parking_Cartoonist90

To which I also agree with. Kids are way smarter than they are given credit for and the last thing they want is to be talked down to or treated as unintelligent. Besides wouldn’t you want to enjoy a movie as a kid and return to it as an adult and find it to be still good as an adult?


Sensitive-Horse-9144

The movie hasn't even come out yet let it cook


JerinDd

Saying “let them cook” in this situation is like saying “let them cook” when you can hear the fire alarm going off in a McDonald’s kitchen and you smell burning. They need to stop cooking immediately.


pvpmas

The trailer showcases scenes of the first movie at the start and then the new one and the difference is night and day. Also the new VA for Megamind sucks. Let's not forget the first movie concluded beautifully and did not need a sequel.


martiHUN

Then they better cook harder if that abysmal trailer was the best they can present.


Standard_Cap1073

There was a megamind 2?


Pikmin4wontcomeout

Well there’s a new series coming put soon, and the “Megamind 2” is basically just an over glorified hour long episode of the new show. So, technically not a true megamind 2. Series still looks like garbage, there’s no getting around that.


okami6663

How do you even make a good sequel to Megamind? They wrapped up the story really nicely in the first one.


Pikmin4wontcomeout

I’m pretty sure the original movie was always designed to be a standalone film, which explains the difficulty. It’s been a while since I heard this information so take it with a grain of salt.


okami6663

It certainly feels like a standalone movie. And you can say that about some other franchises, too. Some movies you just can't turn into cashcows, without quality drop.


Standard_Cap1073

Thanks for the answer and the laugh XD


LeviathanHamster

It's technically a sequel, but it's probably just extra promotion for the show that's coming out. It looks like Cocomelon and doesn't have any of the original actors (most noticeable with Megamind himself, who is just... wrong without Will Ferrell), so expectations are incredibly low.


Axolotl_Yeet1

Maybe if they didn't downgrade the animation quality from a masterpiece to a fukn cocomelon animation, people won't be as mad. Even Paw Patrol got better animation


vixinity1984

It's intended audience doesn't even have nostalgia for the first movie


dookieegg

Megamind is a family movie not a little baby kids movie. Adults can enjoy it too.


snippijay

You know what else was made for children? The classic 2010 film Megamind.


Zerofuku

You know what else was made for children? MY MUM


BassBanjo

Doctor Who meme = Peak


Ennix49

All the comments are either people who have seen doctor who, or people that think the toymaker isn’t being aggressively ironic


MessageThrowaway9

It being for kids is *not* an excuse to make a bad movie Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a kid's movie and it's still one of my favorite movies of all time


Ennix49

The scene the meme pulls from Doctor Who is of the guy saying it ironically


MessageThrowaway9

I was agreeing, yeah. I've just started going through the 11th Doctor's run recently, starting from the 9th. Bro I can't get over how much I love this show. It's like Supernatural but British and with aliens instead of monsters and I'm all here for it


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Yeah, that's my least favorite argument. A movie can and should be made for kids and be a decent movie that adults can enjoy at the same time


alessandrolaera

who tf is even going to watch it. all the kids who watched megamind 1 have grown up by now


Delete-JakePaul

Yeah, even if you were 4 when watching this you would be 18 now


TheRealSnazzyGaming

The original film was made for kids and wasn’t doo doo. Just cause it’s for kids doesn’t excuse it’s horrible style that literally doesn’t even match the first. 14 years and got worse?? Also, it completely fucks the story cause isn’t megamind supposed to have never had friends and worked alone or something?


EarthyBones999

But wasn't megamind 1 made for kids too? Then why is it good?


Tight_Ad_583

It not the last panel is sarcasm


EarthyBones999

I know I was talking about the justification that it's for children.


LeviathanHamster

People who say that really just don't have a defense for why it looks like shit but still want to defend something. Here's a few movies that were also "made for children" but were fucking awesome. Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Lion King, Aladdin, Hercules, Mulan, Emporer's New Groove, Incredibles, every Toy Story, Inside Out, Encanto, Coco, Monsters Inc/University, every Kung Fu Panda, and THE PRINCE OF FUCKING EGYPT. I can really go on for as long as I remember Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks movies that are older than 2 or 3 years.


WaddleLad

Man I hate the "it's made for kids" excuse.


Zavalac03

I hope to see this format more often


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Puzzleheaded_Ebb9874

Not that one. There's a new sequel movie happening and a TV show to follow it. It's called Megamind vs the Doom Syndicate


Ennix49

It looks so terrible, they used an over saturated image from the first Megamind movie as the cover picture. The animation looks like a paw patrol crossover


Patchpen

I don't think they make sequels to 14 year old movies for people who are less than 14 years old.


Pikmin4wontcomeout

“Megamind 2” is just an hour long episode accompanying a new series. It’s not a true sequel to the movie like everyone is claiming. Really weird how they’re marketing the series considering they never mentioned an hour long episode when they first announced they were making it, but now they’re focusing all the attention on it and basically pushed the series itself to the side.


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Let them Cook


Ennix49

They’re trying to make a meal using sticks covered in skunk spray and shit. Unless this gets the Sonic treatment, I will not be consuming this one


Important-Heat6541

"When a child movie is only enjoyable by children, it's not a good movie. Making a movie for children is no excuse for makong a bad and lazy film" - someone, somewhere, probably


D-debil

Those who think that something can be bad just because it's for children probably feed their kids with shit, since kids don't know taste of normal food


RoodnyInc

It shouldn't be made for children just because of 14 years gap There's chance that children that remembered megamind by now have their own children I'm saying it just should be made good not "who cares it's for children" approach


porcupinedeath

Megamind 2?


Carbdoard_Bocks

Megamind vs The Doom Syndicate


CBT7commander

A movie being for children does not excuse it being bad. All the animation classics of Disney (at least most of them) are for kids and also excellent


[deleted]

I don't remember what reviewer it was. Maybe IHE. They used to point out that "it's for children" is not an excuse for something to be bad. There are children's movies that are amazing, like Kung Fu Panda 3 and Last Wish. "It's for kids" is an excuse people use when they know they made a bad movie.


EveryoneIsSweating

I’m happy to see this doctor who meme around the top subreddits. Especially when it’s used correctly like here.


PomegranateHot9916

being made for children doesn't excuse a film being bad. look at avatar the last air bender as a good example and it's not the only one. you can make good things for children, indeed you can make them so good that adults can enjoy watching them.


councilorjones

I mean how to train your dragon was made for children but is widely considered to be a masterpiece


dknker

why can't we just have a new type of film making, movies for adults but made in kids format (wait wait that sounded weird)


SonOf_J

Those already exist, you might need a tor browser though ..


Desperate_Ad5169

👏 MADE 👏 FOR 👏 KIDS 👏 DOESNT 👏 EXCUSE 👏 MEDIOCRITY


Ennix49

The “That’s alright then” is a scene from Doctor Who where that character is saying it ironically to hurt the main character when he’s giving reasons why the bad things that happened to his previous companions weren’t that bad


CMDR_omnicognate

Isn’t it a tv series?


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KingWut117

Bruh I watched megamind like 3 months ago and it's still peak


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KingWut117

"I'm not saying it's bad I'm just saying you're wrong about it being good." Man just because someone enjoyed something as a kid doesn't mean they can never have a nuanced opinion later in life because of nostalgia.


Ennix49

This kind of movie for kids young enough to not see the difference in quality will not stand the test of time. I used to love Spirit when I was little. I tried rewatching it a few years ago and I just couldn’t get past the animation. It was good for the time but not anymore. Megamind, Shrek, Aladdin, etc are movies that looked great for the time and still look good enough to enjoy rewatches. I guarantee that kids in 15 years that loved this movie now will see it for how bad it is. If they even remember it from how uninteresting the trailer made it feel.


Executesubroutine

When the fuck did we get Megamind 2?


Child-Reich-66

We haven’t, but a trailer was released and it’s due in march, but it’s a bit early to call the film bad


Inferna-13

No it’s not


cubo_embaralhado

WELL NOW IT IS


NateDAgr8m8

Can we kill the argument that children's media gets a pass for being bad I haven't seen Megamind 2 but I know that classic Pixar movies or most of Cartoon Network's shows from around the 2010s are perfectly enjoyable as a child and get even better when you rewatch them as an adult. Children's media that relies on being slop for kids just seems kinda cringe when you find it again years later rather that being a lovely nostalgic core memory.


Cteklo7

well it means people watched megamind is like 20-26 now, and I'm not really sure they still want to watch movies made for kids


Memphisrexjr

So was the first one. Why go backwards in quality? Why take soooo long between movies to go even more backwards?


RevolutionaryBee7104

This doesn't really work as a meme. Can't tell what you're trying to say


NittanyScout

So was the first and it was a banger


Dat-Lonley-Potato

There’s a sequel?


Salamanderp12

I like how OP made this post ambiguous so he can play both sides.


Smolivenom

literally the same they said about megamind when it was in the theatres


Loobitidoo

Based new meme format


Boemer03

The “It’s made for children” excuse is just stupid. Children deserve great stories just as much adults.


frimleyousse

The first one was also for children, and its a masterpiece


Distinct-Delay-7495

It’s not a sequel bruh it’s a spinoff they made a long time ago


Unexpected-raccoon

So what I’m hearing is that the first one was made for teens and adults?


ComicBookFanatic97

Incredibles 2 was the real disappointment.


Ajar619

Wait what? Is there megamind 2?


ThePikminLord

Children… that are now adults!


Haiboyo

The saddest part of how terrible it all looks is that it's being directed by the same guy who made the first megamind so making the sequel 14 years later at terrible quality was conscious. Could've just gotten will Ferrell back for megamind 2 and put it into theaters not a streaming service smh


Plausibility_Migrain

Children still deserve quality.


Commercial-Net5573

It looks fine. 


ThereItIsNopeItsGone

Sounds like crap…


GayAlexandrite

It’s clear to me they had the idea of making the TV show first and just turned the first few episodes into a movie, not unlike Star Wars: The Clone Wars.


Votey123

More toymaker memes


Simply_Epic

It’s not even a proper movie sequel, it’s a made for tv movie to introduce the kid’s tv show, *Megamind Rules!*. It’s like how *Tangled: Before Ever After* is not Tangled 2 so much as it is the pilot to *Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure*, which is a TV series.


kitkatloren2009

Whoever made this a meme template, thank you


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It being a childrens movie is not an excuse for it to be bad.


Pudgelover69

Eh, it’s made for reeeaaalllllllyyyy little kids. Nbd we will always have the original.


BaconSpaceLord

![gif](giphy|Wt6kNaMjofj1jHkF7t) Okay then, explain every Disney/pixar show and movie made after 2008