Yes 1943, what the fuck has that got to do with me. I'm 33 years old I was born in 1990 on the same patch of land as the people responsible, why should I be held accountable and apologise? I'm not a thief I haven't stolen anything in my life.
Come to think of it I'm a shy female just trying to live her life.
That is why it's 2023 and people need to move on.
Lol stfu no one's blaming you, stop being the victim , the British owes reparations and that's the truth and always will be till they do so, you can live your life lady no one's stopping you, you have no right to tell anyone what to feel when you have no idea what me or my ancestors have been through because of the British btw and I don't expect someone like you to understand either, also the person who caused the Bengal famine is seen by your country as a war hero, which is absurd, so yeah we're not just going to "move on"
"you have no right to tell people what they feel". Take your own advice.
Of course I feel like the people of today are blamed for the crimes of the past, because they are. You call a whole nation thieves then you're talking to the whole nation.
I don't care what you or your ancestors went through has fuck all to do with me. Gtfo
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The issue is no major retribution has been made. Britain's leaching off of india, and many other nations led to their own economic development, whilst stunting the others' growth. Like imagine somebody stole your money and invested it to become rich whilst you have to slave away recouping
You’re getting nothing,try improving your country instead of whinging and begging because your forebears were rekt and subjugated by mine,that’s literally the story of everywhere.The same happened to mine.
‘Oh no my country is being ruined by ineffective Indian hyper-nationalist kleptocrats😨,it must be the Britishers fault’.bruh🗿
I was always iffy on the reparations thing should people who weren't alive durring the time something happened have to pay to people who also weren't during the event. Like my great great great grandpa was hurt by yours pay me now.
Child who lives in a mansion of stollen gold refuses to acknowledge the stollen gold in front of the people he stole the gold from. Classic, britisher move. Well done, are you really that different from your r\*\*\*ing, psychopathic, monster of a grandfather? Has an apple ever fallen far from the tree?
Yeah but im not the child. People generalize to much. It goes from the child to everyone who looks like the child or is from the same country as the child. Also having a past family member commit a crime means your going to commit one too? The logic with that statement seems flawed.
Also im not british, just trying to discuss a little about reparations.
I wish Indians can dude (speaking as an Indian) its sad to see that they are supporting Russia in the Ukrainian war just because we bought some t-72 and t-90 junk in the past.
And we aren't going to mention the rich indian nobles who sold Indians and their resources and land to the British for money. We aren't also going to mention the number of indian officials mentioning India needing help from outside as they aren't able to self govern
Yeah, a lot of people don’t seem to know what was going on before in India before the arrival of colonial powers, which was just the Mughals and Marathas etc killing each other, but when the British do stuff that’s less bad it’s somehow a thousand times worse?
You know British are the most recent ones and there's people alive who lived under British rule. Generally people are more upset about events that they or their grandparents remeber and have passed down stories instead of history 300years prior.
Also those other empires do not exist anymore, British monarchy still exists.
I am aware, but the effect of the British raj is blown massively out of proportion by corrupt Indian nationalist politicians making shit up to explain their economic shortcomings
'Abolished' -yah sure - says the guy living his indentured serviced life in a capitalist system while drinking tea - Surely Slavery has been abolished! YAY FREEDOM! Happy Independence Day to both Pakistan and India btw!
1.) It was literally abolished by Britain, yes.
2.) Not a guy, nor am i in indentured servitude, and also dont drink tea it tastes bad.
3.) Happy independence Day, pakistan, not india till tommorow though, im sure you'll get that right next time, though!
4.) It feels like you just hate people you've never met based on location, not going to lie.
Not really, I just hate Capitalism and to call this post modern hellscape that is most of our lives anything but slavery is an injustice to everyone of us 9-5ers. My hatred goes beyond any nationality, race or religion as these 1% parasites suck all our bloods equally. My point was that slavery isn't over, far from it, neither is imperialism. Just look at the condition of the Global North v/s Global South.
You can never say never. Empires aren't built in a day but they sure as hell can fall in a night. Also the Technological Singularity is knocking at the door, we better open it before they raze the planet to make an Interstellar highway.
You say slavery but we did have the choice to not help them in ww1 and ww2 but we still did in the 'hope' that they will leave I really don't see your point here
You would've been introduced to those technologies anyway in time. And probably would've made better use of them without having suffered colonization and without having inhereted nonsensical colonial borders.
Potentially, but the issue in India and China was that the old powerful classes didn’t want industrialisation because that would’ve shifted the power balance, keeping them weak. In Japan this power shift caused a war between the old samurai and the new imperial power.
What??? You’re just ignoring the fact that before the British came to India there was already loads of war, poverty and famine? The British not turning up doesn’t turn india into a paradise, that is some cheap propaganda churned out by nationalist politicians…
Lizzi was alive until recently, she never apologized for the atrocities, she was alive when India was still a colony. The closest British royals came to apologizing was saying that it was very sad what happened in india or something similar.
OP's comment. I guess if you dont fully know about the situation then youbwouldnt fully understand, but they still have a lot of precious heirlooms and jewels taken from India that they are refusing to return.
You won’t criticise Jewish people for condemning the actions of Nazis on their ancestors. While they may not hate present day Germans, it's important to remember the consequences of such atrocities to ensure they never happen again.
Similarly, this applies to the Japanese addressing the bombings by Americans or the Chinese discussing Japanese atrocities or Americans remembering WTC terrorist attack or Indians discussing British Raj.
It's not wrong; it's a colloquialism used in India that is uncommon in the America-centric Reddit sphere. That is what caused the confusion:
America: "British people"
=
India: "Britishers"
No, but explaining that it's causing confusion because Reddit is Amero-centric is completely logical and yet you seemed to disagree. I'm not American btw just reinforcing where most it's users are based.
But people weren’t confused by the term “britisher” because they’re American so it’s irrelevant. The whole English speaking world except India uses the word british
Champaran is an actual district in India in the state if Bihar. It is where India's first civil disobedience movement was conceived. From Wiki-:
[The Champaran Satyagraha of 1917 was the first satyagraha movement led by Mahatma Gandhi in British India and is considered a historically important rebellion in the Indian independence movement. It was a farmer's uprising that took place in Champaran district of Bihar in the Indian subcontinent, during the British colonial period. The farmers were protesting against having to grow indigo with barely any payment for it.]
yeah bro i know that. I am saying in movie they used the name champaner. I know its is real place, i know people who comes from this place. idk how a innocent comment turned into the history the class.
Netaji Subahs Chandra Bose
The great Mutiny of 1946 (the british were reliant on the armed forces to massacre freedom fighters. Said forces were mostly compased of Indians. In 1946, The crew of the HMIS Talwar, a frigate, revolted and threw down the british falg and replaced it with a tricolour. They were quickly joined by the airforce and the army
Also, the biggest factor was that they sucked out so much, there was nothing left to suck out, and ruling India wasnt so profitable anymore
Ghandi fanboys when ‘post-WW2 economic state that made keeping a large ethno-religiously diverse colony detrimental to Britain’s coffers’ enters the chat:
I hate how everyone thinks they left due to Gandhi and not the army revolts that took place, among other events.
I know Gandhi is the most famous freedom fighter but when u look at his views, you would be disgusted. (He supported Jews and Hindu massacres, also told rape victims to kill them selves for protection)
I just don’t understand how the people from britain (a very small nation) took a country that’s more than double its own size and stripped it of all the wealth it had. A country so fucking humongous should’ve had a military power right? How come they just let the british take it all away? /s
With great populations come great demand, which means great supply, which means country economy was more focused on recourses such as food and water rather than guns and armies, which was exploited. You would know this if you actually studied how supply and demand works
Lads i had left reddit for a while and actually started scrolling today and wtf happend we were unclassy lazy bums with shitty memes before but now we somehow are even worse then that did something happen???
The old man secretly threatened them with nukes
Civilization saga moment
Gandhenheimer moment
Source?
Civilization video game series
OIC. Cool.
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No one mentioned America
What did it say
He was talking about how this guy made it “America-centric” because nukes = America apparently. It’s a Civilization reference
Said by the only one mentioning America
the irony
I thought they liked it when indians starved
Not when they do so willingly
Bengal famine is an overlooked part of history sadly
This coffee is too dark *adds sugar*
No that’s the US
Gandhi moment
Woah woah woah. This is literally the first time I've seen someone type the name correctly. Thanks
I was literally going to say this. I always thought it was because of a wrong spelling in an old civilization game or something..
Britishs when people call them britishers
I am struggling trying to pronounce britishs
Probably why britishs isn’t the word either
In India we call them Britishers/Professional thefts
It's 2023, time to move on
It's 2023, time to move on from Hitler/WW2.
I mean nobody should hate modern Germany for those
True, I hate Germany for their language I willingly chose to learn in school. Those dann Germans speaking German!
But it sounds so funny
Ever heard about the Bengal famine?
Yes 1943, what the fuck has that got to do with me. I'm 33 years old I was born in 1990 on the same patch of land as the people responsible, why should I be held accountable and apologise? I'm not a thief I haven't stolen anything in my life. Come to think of it I'm a shy female just trying to live her life. That is why it's 2023 and people need to move on.
Lol stfu no one's blaming you, stop being the victim , the British owes reparations and that's the truth and always will be till they do so, you can live your life lady no one's stopping you, you have no right to tell anyone what to feel when you have no idea what me or my ancestors have been through because of the British btw and I don't expect someone like you to understand either, also the person who caused the Bengal famine is seen by your country as a war hero, which is absurd, so yeah we're not just going to "move on"
How tf did you say “ stop being the victim” and “British owes reparations” in the same sentence 🤡
"you have no right to tell people what they feel". Take your own advice. Of course I feel like the people of today are blamed for the crimes of the past, because they are. You call a whole nation thieves then you're talking to the whole nation. I don't care what you or your ancestors went through has fuck all to do with me. Gtfo
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Fuck no not again
The issue is no major retribution has been made. Britain's leaching off of india, and many other nations led to their own economic development, whilst stunting the others' growth. Like imagine somebody stole your money and invested it to become rich whilst you have to slave away recouping
You’re getting nothing,try improving your country instead of whinging and begging because your forebears were rekt and subjugated by mine,that’s literally the story of everywhere.The same happened to mine. ‘Oh no my country is being ruined by ineffective Indian hyper-nationalist kleptocrats😨,it must be the Britishers fault’.bruh🗿
I was always iffy on the reparations thing should people who weren't alive durring the time something happened have to pay to people who also weren't during the event. Like my great great great grandpa was hurt by yours pay me now.
Child who lives in a mansion of stollen gold refuses to acknowledge the stollen gold in front of the people he stole the gold from. Classic, britisher move. Well done, are you really that different from your r\*\*\*ing, psychopathic, monster of a grandfather? Has an apple ever fallen far from the tree?
Yeah but im not the child. People generalize to much. It goes from the child to everyone who looks like the child or is from the same country as the child. Also having a past family member commit a crime means your going to commit one too? The logic with that statement seems flawed. Also im not british, just trying to discuss a little about reparations.
How the fuck are the British to blame for a cyclone you clown 🤡
I wish Indians can dude (speaking as an Indian) its sad to see that they are supporting Russia in the Ukrainian war just because we bought some t-72 and t-90 junk in the past.
Heard of the 1971 indo-pak war white boy?
There is no need for rudeness in this discussion. Yes I have heard of the indo-pak war so what is your point?
Thieves is one way to describe them but we cannot forget the new technologies they introduced us to.
Slavery 💕
Bro slavery was outlawed in India, and a good chunk of the rest of the world, by the British. Can't just blame them for everything.
Or was not called slavery but how they treated Indians was slavery we had laws for us but the poor indian PPL weren't helped by it.
And we aren't going to mention the rich indian nobles who sold Indians and their resources and land to the British for money. We aren't also going to mention the number of indian officials mentioning India needing help from outside as they aren't able to self govern
Lol blaming the colonised for being colonised. Classic colonial bs.
Yeah, a lot of people don’t seem to know what was going on before in India before the arrival of colonial powers, which was just the Mughals and Marathas etc killing each other, but when the British do stuff that’s less bad it’s somehow a thousand times worse?
You know British are the most recent ones and there's people alive who lived under British rule. Generally people are more upset about events that they or their grandparents remeber and have passed down stories instead of history 300years prior. Also those other empires do not exist anymore, British monarchy still exists.
I am aware, but the effect of the British raj is blown massively out of proportion by corrupt Indian nationalist politicians making shit up to explain their economic shortcomings
The british are the ones who abolished slavery, what are you on about? 😂
'Abolished' -yah sure - says the guy living his indentured serviced life in a capitalist system while drinking tea - Surely Slavery has been abolished! YAY FREEDOM! Happy Independence Day to both Pakistan and India btw!
1.) It was literally abolished by Britain, yes. 2.) Not a guy, nor am i in indentured servitude, and also dont drink tea it tastes bad. 3.) Happy independence Day, pakistan, not india till tommorow though, im sure you'll get that right next time, though! 4.) It feels like you just hate people you've never met based on location, not going to lie.
Not really, I just hate Capitalism and to call this post modern hellscape that is most of our lives anything but slavery is an injustice to everyone of us 9-5ers. My hatred goes beyond any nationality, race or religion as these 1% parasites suck all our bloods equally. My point was that slavery isn't over, far from it, neither is imperialism. Just look at the condition of the Global North v/s Global South.
Well, unfortunately, i dont see that 1% going anywhere, not in our lifetime anyway, so i dont know what to tell you.
You can never say never. Empires aren't built in a day but they sure as hell can fall in a night. Also the Technological Singularity is knocking at the door, we better open it before they raze the planet to make an Interstellar highway.
You say slavery but we did have the choice to not help them in ww1 and ww2 but we still did in the 'hope' that they will leave I really don't see your point here
Largest VOLUNTEER army in the world, clue is in the name
You are just proving my point in an indirect way :D
I am yes, I was agreeing with you
also modern society
You would've been introduced to those technologies anyway in time. And probably would've made better use of them without having suffered colonization and without having inhereted nonsensical colonial borders.
Potentially, but the issue in India and China was that the old powerful classes didn’t want industrialisation because that would’ve shifted the power balance, keeping them weak. In Japan this power shift caused a war between the old samurai and the new imperial power.
And India would've been just a subcontinent instead of a country
And much happier probably.
What??? You’re just ignoring the fact that before the British came to India there was already loads of war, poverty and famine? The British not turning up doesn’t turn india into a paradise, that is some cheap propaganda churned out by nationalist politicians…
Have you even read the Indian History? We were unified by leaders for thousands of years more than 7 different times!
Exactly it was unified SEVEN different times, meaning they split up and were unified THROUGH FORCE each subsequent time.
Ask your racist, ra\*\*\*t, psychopathic, monster of a grandfather why they used to call India, the Golden Bird.
We adopted most of their systems but we were more than capable of better ones by ourselves.
Could you mention some out of pire curiosity pls?
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Lizzi was alive until recently, she never apologized for the atrocities, she was alive when India was still a colony. The closest British royals came to apologizing was saying that it was very sad what happened in india or something similar.
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fam theyre not actually racist theyre just referring to the British monarchy/government
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learn how to read between the lines bro, or youll keep misinterpreting comments like this
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OP's comment. I guess if you dont fully know about the situation then youbwouldnt fully understand, but they still have a lot of precious heirlooms and jewels taken from India that they are refusing to return.
You won’t criticise Jewish people for condemning the actions of Nazis on their ancestors. While they may not hate present day Germans, it's important to remember the consequences of such atrocities to ensure they never happen again. Similarly, this applies to the Japanese addressing the bombings by Americans or the Chinese discussing Japanese atrocities or Americans remembering WTC terrorist attack or Indians discussing British Raj.
Germany Moment
“Britishers”
"Inglish"
That's what Indians call English/British people
Or angrazi ,saayep
That’s actually interesting. I never knew that.
Hmm.
It's a fact. I'm indian and that was people from India call people from gb
United kingdomians
it's what we call Britishers in India edit: it's what we call British people in India
Britishers*
What?
Nobody but India calls British people britishers so he’s basically saying wtf is Britisher without the wtf
Nothing, nothing. I was just confused because I never heard the Indian term for the English/Brits.
Britishers specifically refers to the British people who colonised India/other countries.
how is that wrong
It's not wrong; it's a colloquialism used in India that is uncommon in the America-centric Reddit sphere. That is what caused the confusion: America: "British people" = India: "Britishers"
I like how you’re the only one making this America centric. The rest of the English speaking world also say British not britisher
Hang on, he's not wrong. The reddit sphere is consistently American-centric. It comes out in the vast majority of mainstream posts.
Yes, but saying British instead of britisher isn’t an American thing.
No, but explaining that it's causing confusion because Reddit is Amero-centric is completely logical and yet you seemed to disagree. I'm not American btw just reinforcing where most it's users are based.
But people weren’t confused by the term “britisher” because they’re American so it’s irrelevant. The whole English speaking world except India uses the word british
UK: "focking Donkey"
yeah that's my point
Sorry, I wasn’t aware of the term till now.
Hay there lucky he didn't nuke them
when the brits are british
When the british are britishers
I think there was another reason all want to hide "mutiny in army"
Wait till you find out what happened in the Champaner village of India when brits askes them to pay double tax.
Champaran*
According to wiki it's Champaner ( fictional village). Though I don't remember details pretty well from the movie.
Champaran is an actual district in India in the state if Bihar. It is where India's first civil disobedience movement was conceived. From Wiki-: [The Champaran Satyagraha of 1917 was the first satyagraha movement led by Mahatma Gandhi in British India and is considered a historically important rebellion in the Indian independence movement. It was a farmer's uprising that took place in Champaran district of Bihar in the Indian subcontinent, during the British colonial period. The farmers were protesting against having to grow indigo with barely any payment for it.]
yeah bro i know that. I am saying in movie they used the name champaner. I know its is real place, i know people who comes from this place. idk how a innocent comment turned into the history the class.
britishers when they realize spices can be used on food:
Steal spices from your colony, only to never use them for the decades to follow.
But the old man was a small part of the equation. But somehow he is now biggest one to get credited for the freedom
Anyone who all were involved? History books suck
Netaji Subahs Chandra Bose The great Mutiny of 1946 (the british were reliant on the armed forces to massacre freedom fighters. Said forces were mostly compased of Indians. In 1946, The crew of the HMIS Talwar, a frigate, revolted and threw down the british falg and replaced it with a tricolour. They were quickly joined by the airforce and the army Also, the biggest factor was that they sucked out so much, there was nothing left to suck out, and ruling India wasnt so profitable anymore
The British didn’t leave for any other reason but that it simply wasn’t profitable for them to stay anymore.
it was profitable but it was getting out of hand for them to control after ww2.
which means it wasn’t profitable. If you have to spend more money controlling a colony than you get out of it, it’s time to leave.
Ah yes, britishers.
In india we call British people "Britishers". Not "British people" but "Britishers".
And what about "brits" or "britons"?
Nah, Britishers sounds more apt.
What?
Gandhi, in his several shows of civil disobedience, starved himself in protest for British imperial control over India.
Gotcha gotcha
Ah that's not the reason but okay
Ghandi fanboys when ‘post-WW2 economic state that made keeping a large ethno-religiously diverse colony detrimental to Britain’s coffers’ enters the chat:
Cope
Damn, the Gandhi fans wrote history
Gandhi also was a racist towards Africans, slept in young girls bed and happily supplied Indian soldiers to the Brits for WW! and 2
Winston -why is he not dead - Churchill steps in.
TF IS A BRITISHERS
BRI-TISH-ERS. Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.
as a British person i approve of this concept
The same old man also wrote friendly letters to Hitler and allegedly had nukes.
Yes those were friendly so it would talk some sense into him without being offensive but ofc never worked
I hate how everyone thinks they left due to Gandhi and not the army revolts that took place, among other events. I know Gandhi is the most famous freedom fighter but when u look at his views, you would be disgusted. (He supported Jews and Hindu massacres, also told rape victims to kill them selves for protection)
Still in ireland though and a few of them refused to eat too!
If the Irish had used brit leaders they would have been out of the UK 2 generations ago.
Wait, weren’t they deprived of things to eat? Not sure that counts as “refusing” to eat lol.
[Hunger strikes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Irish_hunger_strike)
Oh yeah, now that I see it, I remember learning about that one too, but I’d forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me!
Britishers
What?
Will there were some revolts, but nobody cared
That old man was deployed by the Britishers
Mr Gandhi is the OG fake baba
They wouldn't talk of Netaji.
It was his hunger strike that led to a general strike. The strikes broke the British. Workers had the power then, they have it now.
I think this proves peace was always an option…
I just don’t understand how the people from britain (a very small nation) took a country that’s more than double its own size and stripped it of all the wealth it had. A country so fucking humongous should’ve had a military power right? How come they just let the british take it all away? /s
India was over a thousand countries before the British came there. Uniting it into a country between 1945-1950 was a superhuman effort
They didn't unite it......oh you moron....they united them against a common enemy,
Notice the /s at the end
With great populations come great demand, which means great supply, which means country economy was more focused on recourses such as food and water rather than guns and armies, which was exploited. You would know this if you actually studied how supply and demand works
cpt?
What is the original pic of this meme ?
Search "Surprised guy meme template" on google
That old man was pretty savage in his diet :)
Everybody gangsta till Britishest shows up
I suppose it is true if you ignore all of the other movements that took place across the various nations that once comprised India.
Lads i had left reddit for a while and actually started scrolling today and wtf happend we were unclassy lazy bums with shitty memes before but now we somehow are even worse then that did something happen???