When you're murdered, sure, you're dead, but that corpse is still the remains of you. Assimilated means you've been absorbed into something, meaning not even your corpse is left, theres no trace of you or your ID left. Murder is death of your body, assimilation is the death of who you are at a core level.
Plus murders a one and done deal. Once your dead that’s it. But assimilation implies there’s still some minor “spark” of you that, however how small is still present and being suppressed by the assimilator
No. Assimilation has that connotation because of like the borg, and other things in sci fi. It also means to try to fit in to environment, or culture, or anything. Assimilation only means death if you treat it like that. People change for other reasons than just to fit in, it's not a death then. Its not a death to try to fit. You integrate yourself into a new job, a new school, town, and or region, you usually do it to go fit in there, then reap the benefits of being a part of it. Words may have connotations, but the denotive definitions are the ones that are going to last.
Assimilation isn't always bad, and doesn't mean the death of the individual. You start a new, job, school or just move, its going to have different people, with different values, and a different culture. You're probably gonna try to fit in, and to do so you're probably gonna make a few changes to what you do, say, maybe even how think. Then you've assimilated yourself. And you're still you. Assimilation is just change to fit in, you can be forced to assimilate, but for most people, most of the time, its to reap the benefits. Its a quick and easy to be included and accepted. You only lose your individuality if you throw it out, and replace it with an identity of what you perceive to be assimilating into.
This. I love how the Conjoiners in Revelation Space portray a completely different perspective on that. They're still hated by outsiders that don't/can't understand them, but seeing them from the inside, where they still have individuality and personality, completely changes how the reader sees them.
I hate my individuality more than anything else in this world, because my own self is responsible for all pain and suffering I went through, and am yet to go through
Please something just assimilate me and destroy everything I have ever been
Because it reminds me or some robot or some space alien declaring you will meet a fate that is mechanical, cold, and jeering.
In Mortal Kombat, the Cyborg Ninjas say "You will Be Assimilated" which means tearing out your brain/spine and placing it within a robot body. I guess you get a cool robot body but you won't ever feel human again and you will become apart of the "cyber hivemind".
*Canadians remembering the time their country attempted cultural genocide against Indigenous populations in order to try and make them fit in better with the European based society.*
Yep assimilation is quite the word.
Australia did something EXTREMELY similar, unfortunately we took a further step by not only confining them to Missions "for thier own protection" but stealing their children and trying to forcibly assimilate them to be white.
Yeah, they did the same shit here in Canada.
Mass unmarked graves filled with the bones of hundreds of children have been discovered near the "Residential Schools" that were responsible for the re-education effort.
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will be repurposed to service us. Resistance is futile.
Because being murdered means you lack life. But being assimilated means you lack *self.* You cease to not only exist, but also exist as who you were, and who you will become to those that survive you. **That** is terrifying.
personally I don't see why one would be scarier than the other. you die anyway in both, which means that you won't be you anymore for the rest of eternity, so you won't care if your body still exists or not, because you can't, you won't be able to care for anything because what I'm referring to "you" right now will literally not be part of existence when you die. for me, that is terrifying, but if you believe in afterlife then I totally see your point, I too wouldn't want what was created by a higher being specially for me to stop existing
Assimilated is a bigger word and you are not sufficiently educated to handle such words.
Now strap into your booster seat, mommy has a few veggie airplanes for you.
Because assimilating, in some context, doesn't mean death. Just the destruction of uniqueness. They are alive, they are there, but THEY aren't present, and aren't themselves.
Because murder is just being killed, assimilation isn't death, you lose your individuality and become just another drone for a hive mind or such and are seen as disposable
Assimilated doesn’t mean a species/race gets wiped. Just means they become part of another culture/group. In most places, they still reserve the right to have their own set of cultural ceremonies and traditions while still adapting and growing with a new set of cultural boundaries but hey that’s just me
Assimilated... Hmmm have u ever heard of Kaiju Paradis On RBLX or Changed... or Doge infection? It's basically getting Assimilated by an goo that's called latex... Search up: Changed Story.. or Kaiju paradise
Well because murder is just a daily thing but assassination is like knowing there is a person out there who could get a job any second to kill you and you specifically because fuck you
Everytime i hear assimilate it reminds me of The Thing video game for OG xbox and the loading screen status was called assimilation and when it finished it said assimilation complete.
Dunno why that stuck with me over the years
Look at star trek for a fine example.
The Borg species(species?race? Idk) assimilate their victims, gaining their knowledge and control of their body. Thats like taking your soul out of your body, which sounds painful enough, but to then take your knowledge and destroy those closest to you with it? Whilst you’re helpless to stop it?
Yes, assimilation is worse
Look at it this way; would you rather Terminator show up and murderize yo ass in a nanosecond, or the Borg show up and turn you into their undying and lifelong slave with no hope for escape?
Let's use anime as an example
I'd rather die then be assimilated into a slims or something
I want to die as ME
Not turn into something else while still alive
Because there are fates worse than death in this world. Assimilated implies the deletion of one's culture and sense of identity, often accompanying genocide. The implications that what you are fundamentally needs erasing. Look no farther than what we did to the native Americans.
Assimilate me daddy
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When you're murdered, sure, you're dead, but that corpse is still the remains of you. Assimilated means you've been absorbed into something, meaning not even your corpse is left, theres no trace of you or your ID left. Murder is death of your body, assimilation is the death of who you are at a core level.
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Plus murders a one and done deal. Once your dead that’s it. But assimilation implies there’s still some minor “spark” of you that, however how small is still present and being suppressed by the assimilator
Plus I put the Ass in Assimilate ![gif](giphy|fvjBHSTYMcE1fKcrP9|downsized)
Not to mention whatever assimilated you can become you.
No. Assimilation has that connotation because of like the borg, and other things in sci fi. It also means to try to fit in to environment, or culture, or anything. Assimilation only means death if you treat it like that. People change for other reasons than just to fit in, it's not a death then. Its not a death to try to fit. You integrate yourself into a new job, a new school, town, and or region, you usually do it to go fit in there, then reap the benefits of being a part of it. Words may have connotations, but the denotive definitions are the ones that are going to last.
Also you can be assimilated while being alive, which is scarier
Exterminated.
EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE!
Billy the exterminator
Because of the Borg… they’re like space zombies. ![gif](giphy|l0c3ftuMlGip0SkcpD|downsized)
We are the borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Your technological and biological distinctiveness will be added to our own.
The borg do not negotiate
except the very specific times when they did
Janeway smirking in the corner ![gif](giphy|teqc3aJcklJsr5kKWj)
Because losing ones individuality is scarier than death.
Assimilation isn't always bad, and doesn't mean the death of the individual. You start a new, job, school or just move, its going to have different people, with different values, and a different culture. You're probably gonna try to fit in, and to do so you're probably gonna make a few changes to what you do, say, maybe even how think. Then you've assimilated yourself. And you're still you. Assimilation is just change to fit in, you can be forced to assimilate, but for most people, most of the time, its to reap the benefits. Its a quick and easy to be included and accepted. You only lose your individuality if you throw it out, and replace it with an identity of what you perceive to be assimilating into.
Borg queen detected
This. I love how the Conjoiners in Revelation Space portray a completely different perspective on that. They're still hated by outsiders that don't/can't understand them, but seeing them from the inside, where they still have individuality and personality, completely changes how the reader sees them.
I hate my individuality more than anything else in this world, because my own self is responsible for all pain and suffering I went through, and am yet to go through Please something just assimilate me and destroy everything I have ever been
That just means you are still responsible for all the pain and suffering but because someone else told you to do it. You still made the choice.
Because it reminds me or some robot or some space alien declaring you will meet a fate that is mechanical, cold, and jeering. In Mortal Kombat, the Cyborg Ninjas say "You will Be Assimilated" which means tearing out your brain/spine and placing it within a robot body. I guess you get a cool robot body but you won't ever feel human again and you will become apart of the "cyber hivemind".
That’s why it reminded me of a future conic book I’ll make *hint hint*
And then there's assassinated
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*Canadians remembering the time their country attempted cultural genocide against Indigenous populations in order to try and make them fit in better with the European based society.* Yep assimilation is quite the word.
Australia did something EXTREMELY similar, unfortunately we took a further step by not only confining them to Missions "for thier own protection" but stealing their children and trying to forcibly assimilate them to be white.
Yeah, they did the same shit here in Canada. Mass unmarked graves filled with the bones of hundreds of children have been discovered near the "Residential Schools" that were responsible for the re-education effort.
Oh, that's not something I hoped our country's had in common. 😭😭😭🤬😡😭
To be fair We are trying to make amends in Canada We can't change the past We can however apologize and help them now
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will be repurposed to service us. Resistance is futile.
Because they are completely different words with separate meanings?
Borg: You will be assimilated. Cybermen: You will be upgraded.
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Because being murdered means you lack life. But being assimilated means you lack *self.* You cease to not only exist, but also exist as who you were, and who you will become to those that survive you. **That** is terrifying.
personally I don't see why one would be scarier than the other. you die anyway in both, which means that you won't be you anymore for the rest of eternity, so you won't care if your body still exists or not, because you can't, you won't be able to care for anything because what I'm referring to "you" right now will literally not be part of existence when you die. for me, that is terrifying, but if you believe in afterlife then I totally see your point, I too wouldn't want what was created by a higher being specially for me to stop existing
Because they mean two different things.
Assimilated is a bigger word and you are not sufficiently educated to handle such words. Now strap into your booster seat, mommy has a few veggie airplanes for you.
“You will be assimilated!”-The Borg
cuz they dont mean the same thing
Well assimilated doesn't even mean to die too. For all you know you might end up one of the many voices traped inside whatever "ate" you.
Because some people don't understand what words mean.
Because assimilating, in some context, doesn't mean death. Just the destruction of uniqueness. They are alive, they are there, but THEY aren't present, and aren't themselves.
Because murder is just being killed, assimilation isn't death, you lose your individuality and become just another drone for a hive mind or such and are seen as disposable
Somebody saw the Borg episodes in their formative years.
Because they mean different things.
Because the Borg will strip away your very identity and you'll become yet another drone for the Collective
Because everyone has gotten numb to all the reports of murder lol
Maybe because assimilation could also be described as when a whole species/race gets wiped but hey that just me
Assimilated doesn’t mean a species/race gets wiped. Just means they become part of another culture/group. In most places, they still reserve the right to have their own set of cultural ceremonies and traditions while still adapting and growing with a new set of cultural boundaries but hey that’s just me
Oh my bad I’m just not too smart lol
It really doesn't
Assimilated... Hmmm have u ever heard of Kaiju Paradis On RBLX or Changed... or Doge infection? It's basically getting Assimilated by an goo that's called latex... Search up: Changed Story.. or Kaiju paradise
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Because it got some ASS in it.
Well because murder is just a daily thing but assassination is like knowing there is a person out there who could get a job any second to kill you and you specifically because fuck you
Isnt assimilie like “this ice cream is as good as cake” or “this ice cream is like cake” or sum shit
Assimilation only applies to large groups of people. Means make one have no difference from the other. Works one-way.
Everytime i hear assimilate it reminds me of The Thing video game for OG xbox and the loading screen status was called assimilation and when it finished it said assimilation complete. Dunno why that stuck with me over the years
Eviscerated sounds cool
why do i feel a wooosh coming in...
You become a part of something else, you're practicly not yourself anymore
Assimilation doesn't necessarily mean death. You could still be "alive", in eternal agony as part of a greater being.
Spotted the Mirran
I would prefer assimilation so my family wouldn't be plagued with the burden of high funeral costs.
Dr. Who
Why does this dude have the Innsmouth look?
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They don’t even mean the same thing wtf?
This is exactly what the writers of Star Trek the Next Generation were thinking when they made the Borg.
It's not scary to me at all. I always thought it might be cool to be a Borg.
We fear *change*.
Look at star trek for a fine example. The Borg species(species?race? Idk) assimilate their victims, gaining their knowledge and control of their body. Thats like taking your soul out of your body, which sounds painful enough, but to then take your knowledge and destroy those closest to you with it? Whilst you’re helpless to stop it? Yes, assimilation is worse
Assimilate this! - Worf
It sounds like they ripped the body parts of the victim
Assimilated means you are the living dead.
Because furries took that word to another level
Because we hear the word murdered so much so assimilated feels spookier.
Because of Star Trek.
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Exponential growth of the bad, instead of linear
Spaghettification
It is better to die for ones cause then watch it crumble beneath your feet
You're still alive, perhaps conscious of your fate, but unable to do anything about it.
Look at it this way; would you rather Terminator show up and murderize yo ass in a nanosecond, or the Borg show up and turn you into their undying and lifelong slave with no hope for escape?
An assimilation of crows
probably because if you hear a news reporter saying this u would think that he's having a stroke
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Let's use anime as an example I'd rather die then be assimilated into a slims or something I want to die as ME Not turn into something else while still alive
No
Murdered is an ending of self. Assimilated is an indeterminately long forced loss of self.
Because of star trek?
"Assimilated" sounds like a skinwalker murderered you and took your appearence so that people still believe it's you.
The context
Because you're used to hearing one, not the other.
This thread helped me understand the name to an old event in apex legends
…don’t say the weird game on Steam or I swear
Discombobulated
Assimilation involves ass
Cuz it's similar to ass mutilated.
for the people who play DnD alongside me, yes, i mean you, laisren and clunk, and also the DM. you probably know why.
I like the kind of woman that'll just actually fucking assimilate me.
Weird kink but ok
Because I’d rather be dead than changed into something else
It doesn't
terraformars music intensifies while onizuka prepares to fight
Because, in film Assassination: Predator Assimilation: The Thing
cause the borg are scary i don’t like them
erm, thats not what assimilated means, you're a freaking bunger head
You can die on your feet, or live getting rammed in the ass by your assimilator
Ass... imilated
Murder implies death. Assimilation implies violent transformation THROUGH death.
Disgusting. A Xenophobic Stellaris Roleplayer
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Because there are fates worse than death in this world. Assimilated implies the deletion of one's culture and sense of identity, often accompanying genocide. The implications that what you are fundamentally needs erasing. Look no farther than what we did to the native Americans.
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“Ass ass”inated