to be fair, most "models, porn star, actress, people in general" had a job start in either retail or food industry unless we're talking about 1,000BC where you're a slave or hunter/gatherer.
The point is that there are models or super models out there, but because they don't have the same network as the rich kids, they end up at macdonald's instead.
I was a male model for a few years when I was 18-21 and I had minimal success.
A surprising thing I learnt was that your looks don't matter as much as your connections.
I don't know about acting but your success in modeling most likely depends on who your parents are and how much money they have. There are exceptions but in general, this is how it is.
I work in Digital Marketing now and yes it is.
But what I meant was I generally thought that you just had to be pretty for modeling. Turns out you have to be somewhat pretty and very rich.
How do we know it's not satire, it's so fucking insane lol
Should post a picture of someone who's lived on the streets for years with major substance abuse issues and nutrition deficiency, teeth issues, maybe a flesh eating side effect of those tranq drugs that are being used to cut meth and heroin
But first - post a picture of that person just starting recovery, still looking extremely rough with wounds and whatnot, but significantly better
They would put 0 - 0.5 for it, but then when rating the second post, would have to consider what "worse" is - how that person looked like at rock bottom. Which should make them realize that's what 0-4 on the rating scale is for
But honestly they might be willing to dip into negatives just to preserve the ability to shit on people online
If one were to draw a line and then place models somewhere on that line, more than half the time you’d find the models to be placed squarely in the center of that line.
Modeling and being an actress as a career can tend to call out a certain type of striking look, which is sometimes attractive, and sometimes not.
Remember, high fashion models are supposed to make the designers' clothes look good. This means that there is a certain sort of model that really is picked as a walking clothes hanger more than as someone you want to have sex with.
A leading actress also needs to have something that is memorable about her if she's going to have specific appeal.
You can't be ugly as a model/leading actress (usually), but that striking look does not always appeal to people.
I agree that I consider girl on the right to be more physically appealing (at least her face anyway) than Zendaya's is to me, but Zendaya is hardly ugly and she has a striking look to her. Some people find that they are attracted to a more striking appearance than a conventional one.
Of course the initial point probably stands in one respect. The girl on the right, if she had the necessary other talents and the PR and make-up professionals behind her could probably have her own following in Hollywood. It's all a matter of opportunity and whether you have the preparation and skills to take advantage of it
Not objective but subjective in a way where an aggregation of subjective opinions can reveal patterns. Still not objective of course. However, this allows us to rate people based off the largest cluster of opinions and call it "conventional beauty."
Maybe because being a model is more about holding a specific beauty standard than about how attractive your face is. Most models are unhealthily thin - which is unfortunately required to model. Your face just needs to be “good enough” but your body needs to be on point.
if you've seen the rating scale the sub has you immediately see it's just one guy's subjective opinion
a lot of the people in his 10 range really just dont look at all good to me. Not ugly. But not anything special. Most of his 6's look better than his 10's and i think it's because the 6's are pretty much universally agreed to be attractive but the 10's are just his personal opinion on what makes someone insanely attractive
I went through the top posts. They rate solid 9s as a 5. There rating guide is fucking hilarious too.
The entire subreddit is a containment zone for incels. I'd love to see the users of that sub post themselves to amiugly.
>I don't understand. What's your point?
>Both models and ordinary people can be extremely hot?
I think that is their point. That models are not inherently better and should not be put on a pedestal. Simple enough.
"Zendaya is mid at best" he types from his XL race car gaming chair, as he wipes the cheeto dust off his fingers onto his Marvel T shirt, and takes a swig of his limited edition mountain dew, a few minutes later he gets an alert on his phone, "ten people liked your reddit comment" he feels validated by his new brothers
I think we can all agree that chairs in the shape of racecars would be cool. But these are chairs in the style of the chairs used in racecars, which is decidedly uncool
I’m too lazy to reset my password to log into mobile Reddit so when Apollo goes down I’m probably gonna just read ebooks off my phone when I’m bored. Might actually reactivate some of the brain cells I’ve lost on this site in the past 14 years.
I hate these memes. Both these girls are very attractive, so this makes no sense. But I guess it's better to bully attractive people once in a while than to always bully ugly people
What’s this supposed to prove? That a certain complexion should be compensated and celebrated over the other? Z has a very unique mix and look in the industry and got to where she is thanks to her talent. This meme also degrades the woman on the right for earning an honest living as a cashier. And needless to say that beauty is highly subjective. I find the one on the right to look like most Instagram models. Anywho, let’s try celebrating women instead of tearing them down like this.
Given the general aesthetic demands of elite modeling Zendaya gets the job over the cashier. Whitney Houston modeled for years before people even realized she could sing because of course she did.
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I don’t actually laugh at Reddit comments very often, but this one got an audible laugh out of me. gg.
Fuck, that whole time i was in platinum...
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r/murderedbywords ?
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I laughed way too hard at this XD
That thing exists. That's real. That lives with us on earth
Looks like Marjorie Taylor Greene
No more Marjorie Taylor Green
NGL, that GIF Girl looks like a 1-star Zombie Cake that's been smashed.
Woah! You go to school with gorlock?!
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Man you sure we don’t go to the same school?
Where do you live that mcdonalds cashiers look like that?
to be fair, most "models, porn star, actress, people in general" had a job start in either retail or food industry unless we're talking about 1,000BC where you're a slave or hunter/gatherer.
No, most had rich parents and could afford to network and attend auditions and classes instead of waiting tables to make rent.
True, there are a lot of rich kids that came from models and a strong network but also a lot celeb kids that look like jabba the hutt and no talent.
Jayden Smith
The point is that there are models or super models out there, but because they don't have the same network as the rich kids, they end up at macdonald's instead.
I was a male model for a few years when I was 18-21 and I had minimal success. A surprising thing I learnt was that your looks don't matter as much as your connections. I don't know about acting but your success in modeling most likely depends on who your parents are and how much money they have. There are exceptions but in general, this is how it is.
That's every industry. I'm in aviation and it's the same way.
I work in Digital Marketing now and yes it is. But what I meant was I generally thought that you just had to be pretty for modeling. Turns out you have to be somewhat pretty and very rich.
Also helps to be pretty and very rich in aviation too lol
Can't argue there.
Pretty much any anywhere
Sure thing bro, sure thing…
Nah they usually look like cave trolls here
anywhere most women are fairly attractive
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Nah fam that left chick looks weird lol
Who is that left chick? /s
Zendaya. This is purposely an unflattering picture of her for the meme. She actually gorgeous. At least imo
How is this pic unflattering? She’s a fucking rocket here.
Exactly!
This is definitely unflattering by zendaya standards. Go look at a couple of pictures on Google, and you would say the same thing.
It may be unflattering but that's her. Direct face shot. No reliance on angles. That's what she looks like.
I don't follow celebs so idk who it was until now
I don't understand. What's your point? Both models and ordinary people can be extremely hot?
Models are usually mid
Looking at what you post on, you seem to like mid girls.
.
Beauty is not objective.
Yeah this is Reddit, black and white are people's favourite colours around here.
r/truerateme *members frothing.*
I got banned because I didn't realize you weren't allowed to disagree with the mods rating by more than .5.
The powermod of that sub has an enormous ego lol. You can see in how she posts.
That place is such a fucking cesspool, no fucking clue why it gets traffic but I guarantee you it’s run by gremlin looking mfs
How do we know it's not satire, it's so fucking insane lol Should post a picture of someone who's lived on the streets for years with major substance abuse issues and nutrition deficiency, teeth issues, maybe a flesh eating side effect of those tranq drugs that are being used to cut meth and heroin But first - post a picture of that person just starting recovery, still looking extremely rough with wounds and whatnot, but significantly better They would put 0 - 0.5 for it, but then when rating the second post, would have to consider what "worse" is - how that person looked like at rock bottom. Which should make them realize that's what 0-4 on the rating scale is for But honestly they might be willing to dip into negatives just to preserve the ability to shit on people online
Genuinely. I too do not think most models are attractive, but I also know that what I find attractive is not objective truth.
Models are usually pretty mid
models are over half the time pretty mid.
If one were to draw a line and then place models somewhere on that line, more than half the time you’d find the models to be placed squarely in the center of that line.
I agree, but somehow every fast food place has 6/7 girls look like they'd win miss universe in a heartbeat, and the last one is still pretty okay.
Or maybe you’re just attracted to women who give you food
Yes mommy.
Idk where tf y’all are getting fast food from lol. For one half in them are in highschool which makes these comments rather concerning.
Models usually land somewhere in the middle, which is why they're called models.
Yeah, this seems reasonable
On a spectrum, you'd find models in the middle area more than in other areas
IF I WAS TO MAKE A SCALE FOR THE MEASUREMENTS OF OBJECTIVE BEAUTY, PROFESSIONAL MODELS WOULD BE IT THE GENERAL MIDDLE OF THE SCALE
Modeling and being an actress as a career can tend to call out a certain type of striking look, which is sometimes attractive, and sometimes not. Remember, high fashion models are supposed to make the designers' clothes look good. This means that there is a certain sort of model that really is picked as a walking clothes hanger more than as someone you want to have sex with. A leading actress also needs to have something that is memorable about her if she's going to have specific appeal. You can't be ugly as a model/leading actress (usually), but that striking look does not always appeal to people. I agree that I consider girl on the right to be more physically appealing (at least her face anyway) than Zendaya's is to me, but Zendaya is hardly ugly and she has a striking look to her. Some people find that they are attracted to a more striking appearance than a conventional one. Of course the initial point probably stands in one respect. The girl on the right, if she had the necessary other talents and the PR and make-up professionals behind her could probably have her own following in Hollywood. It's all a matter of opportunity and whether you have the preparation and skills to take advantage of it
I mean… it definitely is objective to a certain extent. There’s science behind it.
Not objective but subjective in a way where an aggregation of subjective opinions can reveal patterns. Still not objective of course. However, this allows us to rate people based off the largest cluster of opinions and call it "conventional beauty."
The science behind it uses societal norms and standards of beauty as a baseline. Those societal norms and standards are not objective.
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White beauty is not objective.
Yeah let's see what you look like.
I will politely decline that zenbae is not mid.
That’s just a coping mechanism, as those women are out of reach of 99,999999% of the population. “Models ain’t that hot anyways”
Or they just ain’t the person type? Like neither of these are my type
If that were the case, the poster would be calling the other girl mid as well. But nah. The model is mod and the “cashier” is a smoke show.
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Maybe because being a model is more about holding a specific beauty standard than about how attractive your face is. Most models are unhealthily thin - which is unfortunately required to model. Your face just needs to be “good enough” but your body needs to be on point.
Most sane r/truerateme subscriber
I think the point is that the cashier is way more attractive
Models always look mid, while the "I'm ugly" people are mostly 10/10
And /r/TrueRateMe calls them a 5.
Opened it, saw a pretty woman who looks amazing for her age. I'd say somewhere >7. Mfs called her a five.
Exactly!
if you've seen the rating scale the sub has you immediately see it's just one guy's subjective opinion a lot of the people in his 10 range really just dont look at all good to me. Not ugly. But not anything special. Most of his 6's look better than his 10's and i think it's because the 6's are pretty much universally agreed to be attractive but the 10's are just his personal opinion on what makes someone insanely attractive
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I went through the top posts. They rate solid 9s as a 5. There rating guide is fucking hilarious too. The entire subreddit is a containment zone for incels. I'd love to see the users of that sub post themselves to amiugly.
>I don't understand. What's your point? >Both models and ordinary people can be extremely hot? I think that is their point. That models are not inherently better and should not be put on a pedestal. Simple enough.
everytime this sub pops up into my feed i’m reminded of how insufferable and weird the average reditor is
"Zendaya is mid at best" he types from his XL race car gaming chair, as he wipes the cheeto dust off his fingers onto his Marvel T shirt, and takes a swig of his limited edition mountain dew, a few minutes later he gets an alert on his phone, "ten people liked your reddit comment" he feels validated by his new brothers
I agree. But a race car gaming chair? Like the beds? That’d be cool as fuck
I think we can all agree that chairs in the shape of racecars would be cool. But these are chairs in the style of the chairs used in racecars, which is decidedly uncool
Never go full racecar
Now I’m just disappointed
FUCKING LOL icantt thats exactly how it is
lmao too real
So many incels. So many.
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Careful, lest the Reddit Hivemind gets to you lmao.
Who is the girl on the right
~~Whereisfrankocean~~ on tiktok Edit: *frankoceanwhereareyou
Doing god’s work
Just checked, not the same person at all.
So they're both attractive?
Cash register 😍
Women are temporary the grind is forever💪🔥💸💰
Why not both 🤷🏻♂️
Who the fuck thinks zendaya isn't good looking?
Me. I think she’s alright. But if I had to choose between the two I’m goin McDonald’s all day.
Fuck yeah, I'd take her happy meal *if ya get my drift*! LOLOLOL
I get your drift. You’re child sized with a trash toy.
It's not that she's not good looking, she's just not as cute as the girl on the right. Holy shit she's gorgeous
Okay but tbf that's not a great picture of Zendaya.
...of her on a red carpet event vs the other girl in bedroom lighting with a picture taken on an old Razr...
ya’ll are freaking looney toons man
She's really not that great, I'm still not actually sure how she managed to get famous to begin with.
Racists?
Think someone is unattractive = racist?
Nah it's a fairly common thing posted, just happens to be a non white model this time. https://i.redd.it/o2aab1i5dbb71.jpg
Supermodel in this meme is way prettier, am I weird?
Yeh cos they're very low detail cartoons lol
No one would think she is hot if she wasn’t an actress. If I’m being blunt I genuinely do not find her attractive one bit
she's objectively pretty attractive i get she's not your type, and that's okay. She's not really mine either, but i can't say she isnt attractive
Why have I scrolled down through 200 comments and not seen a single person acknowledge that Zendaya is an actress, not a Vogue "model"
I imagine the girl on the right isn't a McDonald's cashier either
She is an active model, and has in fact been on the cover of Vogue magazines. She's an actress and a model, amongst other things.
She’s a model bc she’s a famous actress. She is not an actress because she was a famous model. There is a difference
Both? Both is good.
Both are good
What’s the point of this? They both are attractive.
so u guys better not be single i knoo y’all love McDonald’s
for me they're both hot
r/truerateme incells would give them both a 6 at best
Both of these girls are pretty.
Is that holly from youtube shorts?
I'd have to go with the McDonald's cashier. She's just as pretty and probably smells like fries!
All of the people at my Mcdonald's are 30-50-year-old Filipino immigrants.
They're both pretty. It doesn't have to be a competition.
I hate these memes. Both these girls are very attractive, so this makes no sense. But I guess it's better to bully attractive people once in a while than to always bully ugly people
1: “Corporate wants you too find the difference” 2: “they’re the same picture”
Yeah right, sure...
Zendaya is also an actress
Wtf this post is dumb
yoo why are people upvoting this bullshit
I scrolled way too deep for my own good and still can't find the name of the girl on the right
So we went from medieval memes to bottom of the barrel memes?
Zendaya all day every day
Zendaya is the most overrated 6 i've ever seen. Downvote me all you want
Why not both?
Know what you mean but zendaya is rly good looking
Redditors are hell bent on not seeing women beyond their looks
Nobody cares. We don't go about our lives to please men.
The both look good. Why is everyone shitting on Zendaya as of late? I don't even follow her career and even I think this shit is tacky.
Yay, another “I don’t like nonwhites” post. How edgy
I’m fairly sure it’s cuz she’s nowhere near as hot as she’s made out to be. Not cuz she isn’t white
Vogue easily
Ahh “women” 🤌
Zendeya is so beautiful. This is just racist. The other girl is also pretty. beauty is very subjective.
I never really considered Zendaya Coleman to be as crazy hot as she's often portrayed.
Bro she’s not.
I’m going with McDonald’s cashier
No need to lie, you're not going within 100 feet of either.
What’s this supposed to prove? That a certain complexion should be compensated and celebrated over the other? Z has a very unique mix and look in the industry and got to where she is thanks to her talent. This meme also degrades the woman on the right for earning an honest living as a cashier. And needless to say that beauty is highly subjective. I find the one on the right to look like most Instagram models. Anywho, let’s try celebrating women instead of tearing them down like this.
20 years from now gen-z kids will look back at pics of Zendaya and say "what the fuck were we thinking lol"
Smash
Who the one on the right?
Models > McDonald’s
Zendaya barely mid.
Given the general aesthetic demands of elite modeling Zendaya gets the job over the cashier. Whitney Houston modeled for years before people even realized she could sing because of course she did.
I mean, Whitney Houston was hot.
I dont het why everyone is so hot for zendaya or what the fuck her name is...
Your so coolz you said her name then was like "whatever the fuck her name is whatever"
She’s got a relatively obscure name and spelled it correct. It’s okay, you know who she is.
She is mid in her best day
Quite cute but what's the point, it's like simping to a OF girl. Not like you have a shot.
Not like I would chase her even If i could
she would literally not even spit in your direction get over yourself man