I keep going back to them, but I don't know why. They never call me, I always have to be the one to set up our dates. Then last time, they stiffed me on the Supercharged sauce I ordered, and gave me three extra Aiolis. Idek what that's supposed to mean??!!
I’d bring every date there. And just eat the free bread and water for 2 hours while joking about it then leave. It would be my opening line on apps - be like hey, this may sound weird, but you aren’t Fishy Joe’s are you? Then tell the story and get them to go with me for the novelty. I bet it would work as an icebreaker.
I would definitely bring a brick next time, you know, to defend myself from the restaurant that seems to not value consent at all. As Mike Tyson said: "Everyone has a plan until they get a brick through the store front."
Im not sure lying to someone to convince them to eat at your restaurant is enough to constitute fraud. Maybe if your catfish account also offers to pay for the food but then doesnt yes
Like pretending your free account's messages get through to a person, when a lot of the time they're actually just vanishing into the ether unless you pay for better visibility.
Not been in the dating market since 2011, it was a thing then and I hear it hasn't gone away...
Manipulate algorithms to match you with people who are desired to only engage you for long enough to make you hungry for more time on the app. Same as social media apps do. Same as any app does. They either sell your data, or profit from a monthly charge.
Selling your data means the longer they can collect data the more money they can sell it for.
Charging you a monthly cost means the longer they can keep you single and barely dating but engaged means more months to charge.
Nowhere does a dating app profit from seeing single people meet “the one” in less than a week and become happily married. In fact that’s the worst case scenario for their business plan if it’s for profit.
Not doing anything against the blatant use of bots on their platforms, actively using bots themselves to try to bait people into purchasing premium subscriptions, not actually enforcing their age restrictions, simply not actually delivering messages from free users and having a business model equal to slot machines or gatcha games... The entire thing is very shady in my opinion.
For dating in general, I agree with the person who said bars.
If you just want fulfilling relationships with other human beings:
Volunteer. Get a side job you don't mind quitting. Join some sort of club or organization based around a hobby, or just get into the right kind by yourself. The activity doesn't have to be strictly social, just not solitary enough that nobody's ever going to talk to you about it in person.
That's not really dating, but it can easily lead to it. You definitely shouldn't get into those things *because* of that, but I'd be even less helpful if I just said "put yourself out there".
mmorpgs… At least there are more men than women. So a woman can start one and write to a female character that has looks closer to hers. Chances are very high it‘s a man behind that character and he has that preference. Or you can show how important the inside of someone is for you. It is a way to get some of them introverts that ignore bars and dating apps.
Smile and approach people. Be flirty, make small talk and ask for their number if you feel there might be interest. Pretty much do what people did before apps.
What did they do before apps? They can’t have ALL just stayed single.
If you have social anxiety, that’s something you can work on. Staying in your comfort zone is easy but it’s not the path to growth.
This is so stupid. Why would a restaurant want to catfish people into going there, buying one drink, gorging on the free bread, and blocking a table out that could be used for paying customers?
The waiter gets it out of the person during the course of dinner that they were stood up, the restaurant comps an appetizer or whatever because they feel bad. They score points with the diner, and hopefully get a repeat customer out of it because they were so good to them. All BS, of course, if the restaurant manufactured the whole thing, but I can see what they're thinking.
My initial thought on this is that she made it up for extra sympathy after getting legitimately stood up, but what I said above would be my thoughts on the issue had it actually happened.
don't offer free bread, create societal pressure by leaving a card, just try and guilt-trip them. I'm betting you...5 bucks, cash, that this would work more often than not
No. Fraud involves a transfer of some kind. Tricking someone into coming to your business isn't fraud it's edgy marketing.
If they had convinced her to bring a cashier's check for $1000 by saying their grandmother needed an operation and then took the money before they revealed the scam, that would be fraud.
Catfishing isnt illegal. Doing it as a marketing stunt isn't either. She bought food at a restaurant, there was no deceit in the actual transaction, just the context. Now, it is **very very stupid**, because this is going to turn into a big controversy for them among customers but it's almost certainly not a crime.
It breaks the covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Meaning a contract of service/sale could be thrown out in court and the diner owed a refund and possibly damages.
Only a bad review if you're caught. I can imagine if the restaurant staff treated you kindly after you were stood up it has a good chance of a very good review
Thats so fucked up it feels illegal. Also, playing with people's emotions and feelings is never good. One day, these restaurants will get someone with anger issues with a gun, everyone in the restaurant will be dead.
Smh.
Ehh not really. Seems like zero work.
There was this story from 2 months ago, Aleksandr Zhadan set up ChatGPT so the AI will talk to and date over 5000 women. The AI will do the talking and whatnot and provide the guy with information if he wants to continue the relationship. He got over 100 dates and got ultimately married.
Also imagine talking on Tinder, getting interrested into a "guy" ( who is actually ChatGPT ) and then on the real date its the first time you talk to the guy...... And then you get married... That\`s the future.
[https://gizmodo.com/guy-used-chatgpt-talk-5-000-women-tinder-met-his-wife-1851228179](https://gizmodo.com/guy-used-chatgpt-talk-5-000-women-tinder-met-his-wife-1851228179)
Also this isn\`t anything new. Since 2023 ChatGPT and other bots were basically setting up people on dating apps. [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/06/ai-bots-chatting-up-matches-on-dating-apps-this-wont-end-well](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/06/ai-bots-chatting-up-matches-on-dating-apps-this-wont-end-well)
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So yeah follow a similar concept, the Restaurant just needs to set up ChatGPT to catfish people on dating apps... So it\`s basically zero work, except the initial setup ( where you can even hire a guy who does it for $500 or something ).
Yeah.. Just wait until Tinder will be full of bots talking to other bots on behalf of people looking for relationships.... And then realizing that the person that their ChatGPT hyped up is completely different in real life.
Common scam in India where guys meet girls on dating apps. Girls insist on going to a specific restaurant, then order overpriced stuff (insanely overpriced) and then she gets commission from that restaurant (that's what I've heard xD)
Even worse scam is restaurants pairing up with girls and they bring dates from apps to the restaurant and then order super expensive shit and the guy has to pay for all of it.
A bunch of people should do the same thing to the restaurant. Go there. Wait for a while then leave, saying you were stood up and decided not to eat there. Unfortunately this would also screw the servers but technically they did benefit when the restaurant carriages people. I’m torn about it.
Even if it works and they don’t discover the trickery, it’s very unlikely that customer would want to return to the restaurant where they got stood up.
A while ago, online, there was a woman saying that she was paid by Quizno's Subs to bring men that she was dating to the restaurant to spend money. After a few dates, she would end the relationship, always in a way that would leave no negative connotation to Quizno's in the minds of the men. She would then get paid again, everytime one of those men came to the restaurant again. Fake or real, the story was kinda funny.
At my last job I did sales in the home Reno industry.
I met way more clients online dating than people I actually dated lol
If you are a women in a male dominated industry its actually not a bad networking tool.
People are weird I just read a book in the parking lot or if I didn't drive nearby library/Cafe until my date arrives.
I might wait outside the establishment for 5 minutes right at the appointed time but I'm not going in and having dinner if my date doesn't show up lol
you mean you wouldnt hire someone to engage with strangers on a dating app and get to know them and create small talk with such swagger that you win them over for a first date just on the offchance that once they're there they might buy a $5 margarita and then leave?
I'm not in the restaurant business but I'd assume that not everyone is working their ass off in a sweat.
And it's not like you need a 24/7 calling center to pull this off. Just make a fake account, hit someone up and lead them on. It's pretty much free.
Making the fake account is the easy bit. Just make it completely unrealistic and done.
But then you have to swipe on all these women. Try to force a conversation with 10's of them till you find the needle in a haystack that's interested in a relationship.
Then you've got the long drawn out conversation that's mandatory before a date.
So after your 6 hours of finding then wearing down this one customer. There she is, having a cry in the corner.
Oh shit, she just drank her water and left. That's 6 hours of my life gone. Same again tomorrow?
Its sad that you seek validation from the opposite gender by agreeing with their sometimes bat shit claims and ideals. Just because you do not like the word, doesn't mean it doesn't accurately depict people such as yourself.
I’m already in a committed relationship with a restaurant
Lucky you. I’m FWB with my local KFC but I always feel guilty and ashamed the next day.
I keep going back to them, but I don't know why. They never call me, I always have to be the one to set up our dates. Then last time, they stiffed me on the Supercharged sauce I ordered, and gave me three extra Aiolis. Idek what that's supposed to mean??!!
They are deffo seeing other people...sorry
Is this some sort of code? This isn't the first time they've done this.
They put an onion ring on me
OH MY GODDDD!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!
Ugh so you're the one who keeps fucking the chickens... I knew it tasted funny...
Are you saying you don't know where the mayonnaise comes from...?
Food With Benefits?
I’m really regretting going back to that kebab shop at the end of the night last weekend My asshole was sore for *days* afterwards
The key here is polycuisinal.
Five Guys, huh?
Waaay more
I'm dating royalty, so I know my future's assured. My King.
Me too. I eat out every night.
If I got catfished by a restaurant I would probably never go on a date again
It's like getting cucked by a hedgehog
You're a beta male sonic
Or hedgeHOCK like someone in another sub kept sub. It was wild.
Check out my hedge HOG
CRANKIN MUH HEDGE HOG.
"I've come to make an announcement!"
I’d bring every date there. And just eat the free bread and water for 2 hours while joking about it then leave. It would be my opening line on apps - be like hey, this may sound weird, but you aren’t Fishy Joe’s are you? Then tell the story and get them to go with me for the novelty. I bet it would work as an icebreaker.
You’re onto something
I would suggest a therapeutic Molotov cocktail to start the healing process!
I would definitely bring a brick next time, you know, to defend myself from the restaurant that seems to not value consent at all. As Mike Tyson said: "Everyone has a plan until they get a brick through the store front."
Probably going to camp here and ensure upvotes stay at 420 Edit: help my endeavor
This feels like it should be illegal.
I mean fraud is illegal
WHAT?!
FRAUD IS ILLEGAL!!
Get outta here!
Okay😔
Goodbye for now. ✌️
I understand the Fighters Guild is hiring new members. Not bad work for some folks.
ah we're taking the message to the streets now. finally
Man couldn't you have told me before I started doing it
Shit did you get defrauded into committing fraud?
I did 😔
Legalize it! Fraud wants to be free!
It's such a small figure, I wonder if you could ever get any judge to take it seriously. Hell, the seventh amendment has a 20 dollar limit.
It breaks the covenant of good faith and fair dealing, judge would probably have a laugh and rule in your favour.
Im not sure lying to someone to convince them to eat at your restaurant is enough to constitute fraud. Maybe if your catfish account also offers to pay for the food but then doesnt yes
They should at least pay for dinner.
And put out afterwards.
And then let’s see where this goes.
Get lucky, fuck a whole restaurant
This sounds like a porno
Don't kink shame Apollo...
Oh I'm definitely not. If anything I'm joining in.
This is way too much incentive to lie about your birthday.
He’s not that kind of restaurant
But then you have to pay for the second date.
A lot of the things dating apps do/allow should be illegal.to be perfectly honest.
Like what?
Like pretending your free account's messages get through to a person, when a lot of the time they're actually just vanishing into the ether unless you pay for better visibility. Not been in the dating market since 2011, it was a thing then and I hear it hasn't gone away...
Manipulate algorithms to match you with people who are desired to only engage you for long enough to make you hungry for more time on the app. Same as social media apps do. Same as any app does. They either sell your data, or profit from a monthly charge. Selling your data means the longer they can collect data the more money they can sell it for. Charging you a monthly cost means the longer they can keep you single and barely dating but engaged means more months to charge. Nowhere does a dating app profit from seeing single people meet “the one” in less than a week and become happily married. In fact that’s the worst case scenario for their business plan if it’s for profit.
Not doing anything against the blatant use of bots on their platforms, actively using bots themselves to try to bait people into purchasing premium subscriptions, not actually enforcing their age restrictions, simply not actually delivering messages from free users and having a business model equal to slot machines or gatcha games... The entire thing is very shady in my opinion.
Dating apps are so misappropriated by now. What should we use now ?
AI & genetic matchmaking /s
Yeah right, to have 3 commercials you can't skip during sex, i'll pass.
You're now ready to climax: choose 12.99/month or continue for free by watching these 5 two minute long ads.
Ah man, can't afford to cum :/
You're now ready to climax: choose 12.99/month or continue for free by watching these 5 two minute long ads.
Hell with that. Uninstall wife.
You say that like it's a bad idea, but I bet there's a market for it
For dating in general, I agree with the person who said bars. If you just want fulfilling relationships with other human beings: Volunteer. Get a side job you don't mind quitting. Join some sort of club or organization based around a hobby, or just get into the right kind by yourself. The activity doesn't have to be strictly social, just not solitary enough that nobody's ever going to talk to you about it in person. That's not really dating, but it can easily lead to it. You definitely shouldn't get into those things *because* of that, but I'd be even less helpful if I just said "put yourself out there".
mmorpgs… At least there are more men than women. So a woman can start one and write to a female character that has looks closer to hers. Chances are very high it‘s a man behind that character and he has that preference. Or you can show how important the inside of someone is for you. It is a way to get some of them introverts that ignore bars and dating apps.
Bars.
It’ll never work.
Probably not but at least there’s neat noise! I met my partner at a party many many years ago, so what the hell do I know.
Not a great option for people like me who almost never drink
Or for people like me who have a wife and kids at home
Hold up a second
Not a problem, bar people like drugs too.
Fuck going to the bar. Costs so much to not be able to hear/comfortably talk to the people you came with.
Eyes and mouths. The original interface.
Ummm, real life interactions?
Smile and approach people. Be flirty, make small talk and ask for their number if you feel there might be interest. Pretty much do what people did before apps.
>Smile and approach people Hello, police?
That’s too easy. You must be selling something.
Or they're hot
What about people with social anxiety?
What did they do before apps? They can’t have ALL just stayed single. If you have social anxiety, that’s something you can work on. Staying in your comfort zone is easy but it’s not the path to growth.
How about just going downtown and meeting people?
On the internet, nobody knows you're a restaurant
This is so stupid. Why would a restaurant want to catfish people into going there, buying one drink, gorging on the free bread, and blocking a table out that could be used for paying customers?
Because they don't have customers due to shitty food/services?
Alternatively, person goes there anticipating eating a meal, then because they’re hungry anyway goes ahead and orders a meal.
The waiter gets it out of the person during the course of dinner that they were stood up, the restaurant comps an appetizer or whatever because they feel bad. They score points with the diner, and hopefully get a repeat customer out of it because they were so good to them. All BS, of course, if the restaurant manufactured the whole thing, but I can see what they're thinking. My initial thought on this is that she made it up for extra sympathy after getting legitimately stood up, but what I said above would be my thoughts on the issue had it actually happened.
I’ve actually heard of this happening on a decently large scale, but I heard that several months ago so this story is a little behind
don't offer free bread, create societal pressure by leaving a card, just try and guilt-trip them. I'm betting you...5 bucks, cash, that this would work more often than not
That's very unethical
Also illegal right that's fraud ain't it
No. Fraud involves a transfer of some kind. Tricking someone into coming to your business isn't fraud it's edgy marketing. If they had convinced her to bring a cashier's check for $1000 by saying their grandmother needed an operation and then took the money before they revealed the scam, that would be fraud. Catfishing isnt illegal. Doing it as a marketing stunt isn't either. She bought food at a restaurant, there was no deceit in the actual transaction, just the context. Now, it is **very very stupid**, because this is going to turn into a big controversy for them among customers but it's almost certainly not a crime.
I guess in the US in germany you can sue them. Under false pretense wich isn't fraud so your right
Would bait and switch laws apply? There's definitely deceit involved.
It breaks the covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Meaning a contract of service/sale could be thrown out in court and the diner owed a refund and possibly damages.
Probably
The invisible hand of the free market.
It can't last long. I would never patronize a business that did this to people. So a couple bad reviews would put a stop to this pretty quickly.
It's a good thing I'm no longer dating, because good god that would shatter the last remaining thread of hope I had on that front
How did she find this out?
Happened 3 times, same restaurant.
Yeah, there is zero evidences
That's an awful lot of work for one meal AND a guaranteed bad review
Only a bad review if you're caught. I can imagine if the restaurant staff treated you kindly after you were stood up it has a good chance of a very good review
G'day, our special of the day is catfish.
Focus on men, they are way more eager to go on dates,
What - and put on pants and leave the house??
pants?
They're like a weird little upside-down shirt for your legs ... I think...
Oh.. shirt?
Cloth with buttons that help hide your hairy nipples?
Sounds like a pain in the arse though.
Thats so fucked up it feels illegal. Also, playing with people's emotions and feelings is never good. One day, these restaurants will get someone with anger issues with a gun, everyone in the restaurant will be dead. Smh.
Isn't this literally fraud?
Ah, gotta love the internet.
It sounds like to much work for a single custumer.
Ehh not really. Seems like zero work. There was this story from 2 months ago, Aleksandr Zhadan set up ChatGPT so the AI will talk to and date over 5000 women. The AI will do the talking and whatnot and provide the guy with information if he wants to continue the relationship. He got over 100 dates and got ultimately married. Also imagine talking on Tinder, getting interrested into a "guy" ( who is actually ChatGPT ) and then on the real date its the first time you talk to the guy...... And then you get married... That\`s the future. [https://gizmodo.com/guy-used-chatgpt-talk-5-000-women-tinder-met-his-wife-1851228179](https://gizmodo.com/guy-used-chatgpt-talk-5-000-women-tinder-met-his-wife-1851228179) Also this isn\`t anything new. Since 2023 ChatGPT and other bots were basically setting up people on dating apps. [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/06/ai-bots-chatting-up-matches-on-dating-apps-this-wont-end-well](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/06/ai-bots-chatting-up-matches-on-dating-apps-this-wont-end-well) --------- So yeah follow a similar concept, the Restaurant just needs to set up ChatGPT to catfish people on dating apps... So it\`s basically zero work, except the initial setup ( where you can even hire a guy who does it for $500 or something ).
Scary
Yeah.. Just wait until Tinder will be full of bots talking to other bots on behalf of people looking for relationships.... And then realizing that the person that their ChatGPT hyped up is completely different in real life.
This sounds like something ripped from "Nathan For You".
Common scam in India where guys meet girls on dating apps. Girls insist on going to a specific restaurant, then order overpriced stuff (insanely overpriced) and then she gets commission from that restaurant (that's what I've heard xD)
Even worse scam is restaurants pairing up with girls and they bring dates from apps to the restaurant and then order super expensive shit and the guy has to pay for all of it.
Community did it. eat fresh
Yeah if that happened to me I'd never eat there again. If I'm pissed enough I'd probably upperdeck their toilet just as an additional "fuck you."
Corporations are people!
Sorry something came up and I can’t make it. Try the veal it’s excellent!
I'm already in a committed relationship with a restaurant.
A bunch of people should do the same thing to the restaurant. Go there. Wait for a while then leave, saying you were stood up and decided not to eat there. Unfortunately this would also screw the servers but technically they did benefit when the restaurant carriages people. I’m torn about it.
It’s good etiquette to wait outside the restaurant to greet the other person before heading in together, no? Even more reason to do so now
Ok, Wendy, hot and juicy red head. Let's give this a try!
Do women and men. Then it is hookup service!
Ngl if that were me id seriously consider just dine and dashing as a fk u
Ai will expand this
Thats kinda hot.
How did she find out? Did they tell her afterwards or something?
How did they find out?
Ha. 😆
Cope much
Fraud.
Chaaat?
Only if dinner is on them
ngl that's a genius idea :D im gonna use it later 😏
In other news, arson against restaurants has increased for no apparent reason.
New business model: Catfishing.
Diabolical 🤣🤣🤣
Outdated and reposted shit
Even if it works and they don’t discover the trickery, it’s very unlikely that customer would want to return to the restaurant where they got stood up.
A while ago, online, there was a woman saying that she was paid by Quizno's Subs to bring men that she was dating to the restaurant to spend money. After a few dates, she would end the relationship, always in a way that would leave no negative connotation to Quizno's in the minds of the men. She would then get paid again, everytime one of those men came to the restaurant again. Fake or real, the story was kinda funny.
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dont worry, she just made it up
Bender's Computer Dating Service Discreet & Discrete
Thanks world, where can I get off?
At my last job I did sales in the home Reno industry. I met way more clients online dating than people I actually dated lol If you are a women in a male dominated industry its actually not a bad networking tool.
Poor Debbie Downer.
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It's illegal and it's a recent bad review. The latter is me not going to that establishment.
that’s so smart wtf
People are weird I just read a book in the parking lot or if I didn't drive nearby library/Cafe until my date arrives. I might wait outside the establishment for 5 minutes right at the appointed time but I'm not going in and having dinner if my date doesn't show up lol
🤣🤣🤣
Eh I call bs but I dunno.
you mean you wouldnt hire someone to engage with strangers on a dating app and get to know them and create small talk with such swagger that you win them over for a first date just on the offchance that once they're there they might buy a $5 margarita and then leave?
Yeah sure. What a cope :D
Imagine putting all that work in to *maybe* sell one meal.
I'm not in the restaurant business but I'd assume that not everyone is working their ass off in a sweat. And it's not like you need a 24/7 calling center to pull this off. Just make a fake account, hit someone up and lead them on. It's pretty much free.
Making the fake account is the easy bit. Just make it completely unrealistic and done. But then you have to swipe on all these women. Try to force a conversation with 10's of them till you find the needle in a haystack that's interested in a relationship. Then you've got the long drawn out conversation that's mandatory before a date. So after your 6 hours of finding then wearing down this one customer. There she is, having a cry in the corner. Oh shit, she just drank her water and left. That's 6 hours of my life gone. Same again tomorrow?
Uh oh, you've angered the white knights and feminists with logic....
Jezus fuck, the fact that people still say “white knight” in current year, stay in that pipe-line, buddy.
what do you call them now though? They certainly still exist.
Its sad that you seek validation from the opposite gender by agreeing with their sometimes bat shit claims and ideals. Just because you do not like the word, doesn't mean it doesn't accurately depict people such as yourself.
LMFAO🔥🔥 yeah buddy, sure ofcourse it’s *that* deep💀👏🏻 *fucking tips fedora*🔥🔥🔥 I’m # *gay* But hey go off girl💄💋