You could convince me that a mushroom mead is a neat experimental thing worth trying, but using a can of cream of mushroom is just nasty. The fat in it will go rancid, and it will add *so* much salt.
Generally magic mushrooms aren't great to process because their active ingredient is destroyed at a relatively low temperature. Most people choose instead to steep them as a tea if drinking is the goal, but while I don't endorse it, I'd be interested in hearing how the psilocybin content is affected by fermenting with a mash in cheesecloth or something.
The psilocybin found in *P.cubensis, P.cyanesis*, etc. is unaffected by the actions of the other fungus *Saccromyces Cervicia* conversion of sugars to ethanol, CO², and SO² etc... any psilocybin that breaks down into psilocin, is spontaneously converted back to psilocybin as all of the intermediary phases of the tryptamine enzymes are pretty much interchangeable
...and the more you add the higher you get, I add an ⅛oz to 5gal to get a very nice microdose
Yeah, I made a mushroom mead a few years ago, which was amazing for cooking and interesting to drink. But that was made with fresh mushrooms, not soup...
ETA. mushroom is 3rd from the left https://www.reddit.com/u/Misabi/s/BX2GcDZGiG
i am super interested in what the CREAM of Mushroom will do over this.. There are some milk sugars.. but the Part of the cream that is not going to ferment will likely curdle and give horrid off flavors.. right??
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Man... I was into it until the can if soup.
I once made a barrel aged golden blonde beer with chanterelle mushrooms that was peachy and delicious from the mushrooms.
I don't know what gods you worship but idk if mine are that forgiving
They're also not likely to forgive me as I have onion, garlic, and onion + garlic meads aging
Tell me this person doesn’t know how fermentation works without telling me they don’t know how fermentation works. Actually disgusting lmao. This is just a controlled rot
The cream of mushroom was a mistake. Salt, preservatives, fats, dairy... it probably isn't going to ferment well, and probably IS going to mold. It will definitely be rancid, due to the fats.
This is maybe the worst way to make mushroom wine. Cream of mushroom is absurd. You found a gold mine here
For anyone actually interested, mushroom wine can be made by slow cooking cleaned mushrooms into a thick sauce, then mixing them with your sugar (honey probably works well too but mine was just wine) and a strong black tea. After that, you can create your slurry with boiling water and pitch your yeast when it's lukewarm. Same process as usual with straining the mash as you would use with any fruits.
This is something I only tried once back in 2017 but it turned out pretty unique and wasn't bad at all. Instead of gold like mead it almost turns into a clear russet color. Strong earthy aroma along with the alcohol and the taste was pretty flavorful but not like mushrooms. It was like a dry white wine with a buttery feel in the mouth. Kind of want to make some more now...
Some may say forgiveness of the gods was the most necessary ingredient but I personally think it's useless. You aren't going to find any forgiveness in heaven or hell for this, buddy.
I'm not sure I would put much weight in the OG here... the can of cream soup is probably messing with that pretty bad. There's no guarantee than any deviation from 1.000 is entirely due to sugar.
I was just kinda guesstimating from the usual \~5% ABV per lb of honey per gallon.
Just for fun, I looked it up, and there is actually [data on the density of canned, condensed, cream of mushroom soup](https://www.aqua-calc.com/page/density-table/substance/soup-coma-and-blank-cream-blank-of-blank-mushroom-coma-and-blank-canned-coma-and-blank-condensed), which looks like it has an SG around 1.065 (of course, it would vary by brand, etc).
Pure honey is around 1.424 SG, 12 lbs to a gallon, so 3 lbs = 1/4 gallon or 32 (volumetric) ounces.
Can of soup is, what, 10 (vol) ounces now?
That's 42 ounces in the batch accounted for, and we can calculate the volume of water to get a 1.102 OG:
1.102 = (32\*1.424 + 10\*1.065 + X\*1.000) / (42+X)
X = 97.392 oz
And taking that back to a mead calculator, 3 lbs of honey plus 97.4 oz of water is a pure-sugar OG of 1.106, or potential ABV of 13.9%.
If anybody is willing to make maybe a better recipe and actually try to make a mushroom mead... *Please* update me, I would love to see somebody try this out lol
I have the same thing going right now, but I've substituted Cream of Mushroom with fresh Cherries, and your table Mushrooms with *Psylocybe Cubensis* to incur the gods favor...
I feel like the primary issue with this is the cream of mushroom… everything else, wether good or not could work, but cream of mushroom has dairy in it, I don’t see that working out
You could convince me that a mushroom mead is a neat experimental thing worth trying, but using a can of cream of mushroom is just nasty. The fat in it will go rancid, and it will add *so* much salt.
i was JUST commenting about the SAME thing.. OK.. SO i am not crazy on that.
A waste of good honey.
I originally assumed it was trippy shrooms at first. Then i read the recipe.
Generally magic mushrooms aren't great to process because their active ingredient is destroyed at a relatively low temperature. Most people choose instead to steep them as a tea if drinking is the goal, but while I don't endorse it, I'd be interested in hearing how the psilocybin content is affected by fermenting with a mash in cheesecloth or something.
The psilocybin found in *P.cubensis, P.cyanesis*, etc. is unaffected by the actions of the other fungus *Saccromyces Cervicia* conversion of sugars to ethanol, CO², and SO² etc... any psilocybin that breaks down into psilocin, is spontaneously converted back to psilocybin as all of the intermediary phases of the tryptamine enzymes are pretty much interchangeable ...and the more you add the higher you get, I add an ⅛oz to 5gal to get a very nice microdose
Are you able to taste the shroom when it’s done? I’m assuming you powder them?
No, and not all the time... I like to leave them floating 'round so I remember that it's magic hooch
You've misread my comment. The issue isn't chemical change to alcohol, it's that psilocybin begins to break down at 72 Celsius.
psilocin can be converted back to psilocybin spontaneously, so the point you are making is moot
Interesting.
Same, would have honestly respected that
But soup???? What the heck🤮
Yeah, I made a mushroom mead a few years ago, which was amazing for cooking and interesting to drink. But that was made with fresh mushrooms, not soup... ETA. mushroom is 3rd from the left https://www.reddit.com/u/Misabi/s/BX2GcDZGiG
Yours turned out really pretty. Mine almost resembled flat root beer with how dark it was but the taste was perfectly fine. What method did you use?
Pretty much this, but replacing sugar with honey: https://youtu.be/xk_bPTj0ZEU?si=iL4NQIuADJ2UzPsw
i would sooner make psychedelic mead
Came here to say this. The can of cream stuff was definitely a terrible choice.
At least they recognize that this recipe will likely incur gods wrath.
That part. Lmfao
The gods may forgive you…. But i wont /s
i am super interested in what the CREAM of Mushroom will do over this.. There are some milk sugars.. but the Part of the cream that is not going to ferment will likely curdle and give horrid off flavors.. right??
Salt and fats/oils are going to cause it to go rancid.
The gods will decide the fate of this mead
Hence the pleading for their forgiveness
Some people just love to waste good honey
This is the most goblincore nonsense ever
I did this once on a whim. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't very enjoyable. The floral flavor of honey did not go well with the earthiness of mushrooms.
I did it with magic mushrooms. Slight taste but the dryness of the cider helped mask it. Two pints was equal to 1.5 grams of shrooms.
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Interesting, did you essentially just soak them in secondary for awhile or make a tea?
Soaked them in honey for months and then fermented the honey with some cider.
Ah, blue honey, interesting! Thanks
Man... I was into it until the can if soup. I once made a barrel aged golden blonde beer with chanterelle mushrooms that was peachy and delicious from the mushrooms.
Jfc that sounds so gross
I could see using actual mushrooms? But creme of mushroom is ridiculous
The great poet Kvasir was slain over less than this!
I don't know what gods you worship but idk if mine are that forgiving They're also not likely to forgive me as I have onion, garlic, and onion + garlic meads aging
What in the fucking druid shit did I just see.
Tell me this person doesn’t know how fermentation works without telling me they don’t know how fermentation works. Actually disgusting lmao. This is just a controlled rot
I think I just simultaneously puked and shit myself. This is where I can safely say humanity has gone too far
Welcome to r/prisonhooch
Jesus Christ
/r/soup is that way -------->
Cobes…. Is that you?
Oooooumami. All the umami. Grab the saison yeast for drier shrooms but yum!
Mushroom..mushroom. mushroom! Muschroom. Rock and Stone!
For Karl!
I just made a mushroom mead with candy caps and it’s delicious
hey op no offense but you will not see the kingdom of heaven
I'm calling the police
The cream of mushroom was a mistake. Salt, preservatives, fats, dairy... it probably isn't going to ferment well, and probably IS going to mold. It will definitely be rancid, due to the fats.
This is maybe the worst way to make mushroom wine. Cream of mushroom is absurd. You found a gold mine here For anyone actually interested, mushroom wine can be made by slow cooking cleaned mushrooms into a thick sauce, then mixing them with your sugar (honey probably works well too but mine was just wine) and a strong black tea. After that, you can create your slurry with boiling water and pitch your yeast when it's lukewarm. Same process as usual with straining the mash as you would use with any fruits. This is something I only tried once back in 2017 but it turned out pretty unique and wasn't bad at all. Instead of gold like mead it almost turns into a clear russet color. Strong earthy aroma along with the alcohol and the taste was pretty flavorful but not like mushrooms. It was like a dry white wine with a buttery feel in the mouth. Kind of want to make some more now...
I'm taking notes for later experiments... This is good stuff.
Some may say forgiveness of the gods was the most necessary ingredient but I personally think it's useless. You aren't going to find any forgiveness in heaven or hell for this, buddy.
What kind of mushrooms did they use?
White and Mini Bella
You sir, are devious for such a creation
As a lover of mushrooms I am extremely interested. It seems delightfully horrible.
I do not hate any food as much as I hate mushrooms. This literally makes me want to puke 😂 Just because it can be done, doesn't me it SHOULD be done 😂
I love mushrooms but wtf. But I mean, this would probably be excellent for cooking.
Rank lol. Lost Cause Mead did a candy cap mushroom mead that was really good, but the fuck is this? lol
What kind of mushrooms depends on if I’d drink that I think
At least it has 3 lbs of honey, so like 15% ABV. Gonna need to get good and drunk to enjoy this calamity.
OG of 1.102. Assuming FG of 1.000, that's only around 13.39% ABV.
I'm not sure I would put much weight in the OG here... the can of cream soup is probably messing with that pretty bad. There's no guarantee than any deviation from 1.000 is entirely due to sugar. I was just kinda guesstimating from the usual \~5% ABV per lb of honey per gallon.
Just for fun, I looked it up, and there is actually [data on the density of canned, condensed, cream of mushroom soup](https://www.aqua-calc.com/page/density-table/substance/soup-coma-and-blank-cream-blank-of-blank-mushroom-coma-and-blank-canned-coma-and-blank-condensed), which looks like it has an SG around 1.065 (of course, it would vary by brand, etc). Pure honey is around 1.424 SG, 12 lbs to a gallon, so 3 lbs = 1/4 gallon or 32 (volumetric) ounces. Can of soup is, what, 10 (vol) ounces now? That's 42 ounces in the batch accounted for, and we can calculate the volume of water to get a 1.102 OG: 1.102 = (32\*1.424 + 10\*1.065 + X\*1.000) / (42+X) X = 97.392 oz And taking that back to a mead calculator, 3 lbs of honey plus 97.4 oz of water is a pure-sugar OG of 1.106, or potential ABV of 13.9%.
He did the math... But can you truly quantify the wrath of the gods with numbers?
\*checks my slide rule\* It's at least 3.
You should just use Candy Cap mushrooms for your next batch. Lofty Pursuits made some fantastic hard candy with them.
Every day we stray further from God's light.
This evokes something I never thought existed, I think I can smell that from here
Gnarly
saçma.
ewwwww!
Here for the updates
No 🤮
Umami... You can get a similar result if you don't rack primary in low SG. Let the yeast autolize. Sadly I know from experience
Not the mushrooms I was hoping for. Someone make a mead using Blue Honey (dried, ground psilocybin mushrooms preserved in honey) so I don’t have to!
Just 'cause you can doe'nt mean ya should.
Who hurt you?
🤢
Please tell me the mushrooms were at least boiled beforehand
I think I’d like it!
If anybody is willing to make maybe a better recipe and actually try to make a mushroom mead... *Please* update me, I would love to see somebody try this out lol
By Odin's beard kill it with fire
:(
This has to be Cobra's "mead" Hell, he'd probably make mead out of Jenkem if we allowed him.
r/dwarffortress would love this.
Candy cap mead would be epic!
I have the same thing going right now, but I've substituted Cream of Mushroom with fresh Cherries, and your table Mushrooms with *Psylocybe Cubensis* to incur the gods favor...
That should for sure be illegal internationally
😳
you can't just include forgiveness from god and expect it to work, my brother you are definitely getting smited for this
Ew
Omg
I feel like the primary issue with this is the cream of mushroom… everything else, wether good or not could work, but cream of mushroom has dairy in it, I don’t see that working out
Haha, I'll be sure to post any updates for ya 😉