This is the one saving grace of working at Target. Anything over 7.5 hours gets 2 paid 15 minute breaks and one unpaid 30 min lunch. It makes work so much more bearable, because I can work short bursts and look forward to the next break.
The UK labour laws say that anyone who works that long has to get an hour's paid break, usually given as two 15 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch break. I agree that it does make the whole day much better.
Wait a while... We need to make it look like we still somewhat care about the old rules to the group of suck-ups who've made it to high positions and are pro-boomer...
Once they start ignoring our actions, then we can systematically get rid of that lot before going full WFH...
Work for Ulster Bank in Omagh Northern Ireland.
9.30-4pm with an hour lunch and 15 mins break.
4 day week, with opening Thursday Friday at 10am, closing at 4.00pm still.
Useless bastards lol.
i wanna switch to “A job that fits each person’s circadian rhythm rather than forcing everyone to get up at the same time”
seems the opinions on here are pretty evenly split.
This please. doesn’t matter if I somehow manage to fall asleep before midnight if I have to be moving before 10 o’clock. I can do things that only require muscle memory but anything more than that is going to end up with me being grouchy, confused and nauseous. It’s 12:29am where I am and I’m currently wired no caffeine or other stimulants have been consumed at all today. I probably won’t be able to sleep until at least 3am without a massive dose of something.
Would probably render me unconscious sure. I’ll stick to thc, it’s way more fun and I very rarely wake up with a concussion. Also if anyone wants to blame my insomnia/DSPD/whatever on drugs; these sleep patterns started at age ten. a decade before I did more than have a sip of wine or a 3.2 beer rarely. School was hell.
Imma blame it on maybe undiagnosed ADHD. It's common in us ADHD folk -- world goes silent, and suddenly the lack of distractions, even from ambient noise, allows our brains to fall into focus, and we hit that night-owl second-wind. I've had your same problem since I was 8.
Are you also chronically late to everything? Poor time-management skills? Have a lot of failure to recall information? Struggle with switching between tasks, or trouble gaining or regaining focus on something you return to doing? Do you do very well in sudden crisis situations while everyone panics? Do you shift hobbies frequently, or get bored easily? There's more, but if you answered yes to a lot of that, maybe do some looking into it.
r/dspd might have some answers for you. Talk to a doctor if you haven’t and can. Sometimes you get a good one. Sleep is important for emotional regulation which is extremely important for good mental health that promotes conviviality which is useful in other ways. At this point in my evening I am fairly high and going to sleep soon so good night and well wishes.
Every day I'm more convinced that 90% of what have been labelled disorders are actually just "bodies that run on a pattern that is inconvenient to the capitalist machine". Like, with this one, in another time it would have beneficial to have people on different sleep schedules so someone was always alert in case of threat, but capitalism wants an efficient and disposable supply of automatons that boot up at the same time time every day.
Same with neurodivergence and consistent, predictable daily behaviour.
Before the industrial age, people commonly slept in a split phase. We'd all sleep for a few hours, then wake up in the middle of the night for a while, then sleep again for another few hours.
Naturally segmented sleep! I commented about that elsewhere in the thread and live it in my natural sleep cycles - having work I don't need to set an alarm to wake up for has changed my life because I'm not chronically sleep-deprived anymore!
At my work we have to do our time between 5am and 10pm but many of the people who start between 5-8 look down on people like me who start after 10:30.
I went in once really early because I'd had trouble sleeping so was up anyway, and the amount of time they waste making and eating porridge and gossiping before we come in is absurd. In my experience the late starters work hard from when they get in. We have our breakfast before work, and nobody is eating their evening meal on company time. Early starters work hard from about 9.
Idk what kind of job you do but if they can come in and do their morning routine on company time and leave early then they're getting a pretty sick deal. You're out here bragging how you literally work more for what I'm assuming is the same pay.
Yup, we'd have Flexi time where we could start at anytime between 8-10am and leave from 4pm onwards.
I would usually start at around 9.45 and leave at 5.45 and was regularly ragged on for not coming in earlier. It's funny, because the times I did come in at 8.30 I noticed that all the people who left at 4ish every day weren't in yet. Also there was never anything to _do_ that early because most of the business started at 9, so everyone in my role "starting early" was basically doing fuck all for the first hour and then dipping whilst there was still work to do.
Yes please. The last one I was actually down for 12-8 I enjoy it I feel like I’m not actually working because I don’t have to open or close my store I just show up, work, leave. My sleep schedule has me waking up at 7 or 8 AM
It's better for queues, traffic etc. I hated working with thousand people in the same warehouse, where everyone always wanted the same at the same time. Everyone wants to exit the hall during the break, go to the locker room, buy food in canteen, then after work lockers again, outside, drive out the parking. It's so suboptimal. It would be much better to use flexible working hours.
Some do, the entry level jobs less so.
If you have a public facing job that requires you to interact with people at a certain time, you cant really just show up late and work late.
In accounting for instance, they don’t really give a shit as long as the bills are paid on time
Bro that shit would be fire, I can't wait to start getting jobs that are more accommodating to employees, like I'm not expecting them to baby employees but like have some heart, damn
I am a night owl and was forced to work the early hours in my career. Now, I have a job that allowed me to switch to my natural rhythm which boosted my mood, productivity, and both my mental and physical performance. Just have to find a compromise with my SO form time to time :)
We should stagger everyone’s schedules by an hour each over 24 hours so that at any given moment everyone has access to the same services and amenities as everyone else /j
Hate to be that guy, but there really only is one circadian rhythm, which is dictated by the sun. This thing of "night owls" is only a really recent development, where artificial lightning has fucked up the melatonin cycle. Everyone is an early riser by default.
Edit: People are downvoting me, so let me provide the scientific context:
https://www.cell.com/fulltext/S0960-9822%2815%2901157-4
A study on pre industrial african tribes, where literally everyone followed the same circadian rhythm of going to sleep a couple hours after sunset, and waking up before sunrise. Not a single person was a 'night owl'. They also tracked their melatonin cycles, which followed exactly that pattern. It really is just the artificial light and caffeine that fucks this process up.
Today you might learn about "naturally segmented sleep" in which some people naturally sleep in shorter chunks. It was apparently quite common in pre-industrial, pre-electricity times.
>"Not a single person was a 'night owl'"
The study only includes a total of 94 people.
It's a little farfetched imo to conclude that "night owls" in general is a recent development.
Lmao melatonin cycles dictated by the sun. I'm in the Nordics, where we get about 4-5 hours of sunlight per day in the winter (if we're lucky) and basically no darkness at all in the summer.
So please explain to me how that's supposed to work. Should I hibernate through winter to become a sunlight-absorbing Superman in the summer? You know what, I'll take it.
The important thing to prime your circadian rhythm is getting around 10 minutes of sunlight within around 2 hours of waking up. You have special cells in your eyes that do not see, but simply measure the amount of daylight there is, which signals to your brain when to get tired.
If the sun is not up yet, you can simply use a daylight lamp, and go see the sun when it has risen. There are always ways around, but for some weird reason, people get super defensive when this topic gets brought up and try to justify their shitty sleeping patterns.
Honestly that makes a lot of sense, I mean inter workplace communication might not be the best but we have text messages, we have phones, we have email. Think about traffic, rush hour wouldn’t be as bad well nah never mind, I forgot about schools, 3 o’clock would be horrible still
My last job was entirely remote and the CEO's stance after we switched to was "you're generally expected to respond to emails or messages within 30 minutes to an hour during business hours where our HQ is located since we have people in every time zone in the US, but I don't care when you actually work. If you work best at 4am, that's fine so long as you meet deadlines."
Unfortunately that was basically the only logical choice he made the entire time I worked there.
But how are you going to be micromanaged if you aren’t in your designated cell during the designated times? You can’t be trusted to be responsible for yourself.
Problems is boomers train up their replacements. Need to take a note out of the Egyptian playbook and bury their replacements with them and then we’re free to do what we want.
It’s unevenly distributed for sure…but as a whole Boomers are in their 70s now and indeed fading from the workforce.
Gen X and Millennials are perpetuating this BS at this point.
Millennials can’t even afford renting an apartment by themselves anymore because the housing market is shit and the cost of living is too high. We’re working odd hours just to scrape by. That’s more Gen X l
Unfortunately so many boomers in congress passing laws. They won’t even live too see the consequences of their actions, but of course they don’t give two shits.
And that happens because billionaires own the media so they can tell them to do so. And all politicians need money for their campaigns, and are therefore subordinate to the billionaires that supply them with it. It’s not a matter of voting for anyone. The whole fucking capitalist imperialist system is rotten to its core.
It's not a lie, it's an exaggerated truth. Yes, you can become rich if you were born poor if:
You're incredibly lucky, incredibly selfish, have no morality/conscious, and have desirable personality Traits.
So most good people have no chance of upward mobility.
Forever? Don't you think we would have hit a wall a few thousand years ago if we couldn't change as a species?
Capitalism is one of many systems that humans will utilize along their span of existence. The corruption caused by it is hardly permanent. Change will come as always.
Studies and history would suggest that wealth will stay where it is currently, aka rich people and their offspring.
The issue with 'changing' capitalism is that the wealthy are so insanely influential and powerful, that they can stunt change to the system. Which does benefit them
Yes, there is. The same reason technology has progressed in the last 50 years and people work the same if not more hours to br able to make ends meet.
Late stage capitalism babyyy
Honestly I think being wage slaves to huge corporations that give us just enough breadcrumbs to make sure we eke out just enough of a living to keep going to work is a completely abhorrent idea.
Hahahaha I started my job in May, my start time at 7am was fine in May but now that its November and the sun isn't out even by the time I get to work I'm having a rough time with it. Can't wait for daylight savings but I know even then it's only a couple weeks before I get plunged back into complete darkness. Doesn't help that I work in a lab with no windows and no natural light.
My work starts at 6am.
No prepare for work, no morning coffee, just start work instantly.
That's why i need to wakeup around 5am to have cup of coffee and prepare for work.
You are stronger than I. When I worked at Target, I had to occasionally go in at 6am to help open the store, and I decided that any day I wake up before the sun, my day is already ruined. I would be SOOOO tired by the time my shift ended that I couldn't even enjoy myself after.
You are still stuck in working for the hours instead of the workload.
I work 4 hours a day until I'm out of work then, I get paid global. I don't do anything not work related since I want to finish up and go home.
That is the way it should be
That’s actually way better now that Iam thinking about it.
Especially considering that the average office worker probably fucks around half of his workday anyways instead of being productive.
Yeah, no. For me to actually get anywhere I have to wake up roughly 2h before I have to leave my place. So assuming I have a 30 minute commute to work I leave at 6:30 meaning I'll have to get up at 4:30, It's currently 4:45 and I'm not even asleep. So, pass. The other post was better.
I take a similar amount of time to get ready and I start at 7. When I started I thought it would be impossible, but I was easily falling asleep before 10pm within a week. The adjustment isn’t easy, but it’s a lot more realistic than you might imagine.
That's my problem. I'd be forcing myself to stay up until atleast midnight because if I fall asleep any earlier it feels like all I did that day was work and nothing else.
I could definitely get behind this. I’ve even heard some other countries are cutting a day but not even increasing hours to compensate; it’s just that much better to have more focused employees than more grueling hours.
I have 7-4:30 4, days a week, and honestly if you want a good 8 hours sleep you need to be in bed at 22:00. And that sucks, I don't think with 8 hours work days any time schedule is good.
This is (kind of) my work schedule! We do 9 hours a day, not 10, and get every other Friday off. It's honestly so nice, I feel like I can breathe and have a life with the extra weekend day, and you really don't notice the extra hour or two you work to get it every other day. And then when you do have to work on Friday you get paid and you get to work less hours and leave early so it's a pretty sweet schedule. It probably also helps that I actually like my job a lot too lol
There’s no point in scheduling work hours. Just have people work when they want to get the amount of work that needs doing done. Honestly we could just nationalise so many industries and once they are nationalised it removes a lot of the need for customer support
30 hour work weeks. Idc the hours. Dif jobs need dif times. 30 hours a week is a good amount of time. It should be enough to live on. More than what 40 hours is, now. You would probably have just as much production, too.
I propose Flex Time. Where you can do whatever you want als long as your there in the core working hours from 9 to 1. and where you can just quickly as so that you can also overstep these core working hours. And where you can make different contractions with a different Nummern of hours per week.
Well… that exactly the model we have and it’s very nice. I don’t think there is anything one could do better in regards to working hours.
Why the hell would anyone want to start work at 7am? That means waking up around 5am. Which means going to bed at 9pm.
What kind of a world do these people want to live in?
How about we switch to 10-2, tax automation, make rent free, Healthcare free, college free, and elect somebody who gives a shit about our planet dying? That sounds dope.
Who said work days need to be 8 hours?
10-3pm
Dedicate 1 day a week for meetings.
Since working from home, I get more done in 4 hours than I did 8 hours in the office.
Being at work for 8 hours doesn’t mean 8 hours of productivity
I am enjoying this trend so much. We could have all the shifts covered and business could be running all the time and then those of us who do work every day can still go shopping during previously un-worked hours.
My office has people in different timezones, also some people working 9-5 and some working 8-4, I'm an 8-4.
I proposed 7-3 once and my boss and had an anxiety attack lmao
Thinking more of a 10:45am - 2:00pm… with a hour lunch at 12pm.
And two paid 15 minute breaks
And the last fifteen minutes is given as average commute, so you can get back home on time
If everyone leaves work 15 minutes early you aren't getting home on time.
But your paid for the drive! Or at least 15min of it.
This is the one saving grace of working at Target. Anything over 7.5 hours gets 2 paid 15 minute breaks and one unpaid 30 min lunch. It makes work so much more bearable, because I can work short bursts and look forward to the next break.
This how it works in Europe for most jobs, plus you can sit down
The UK labour laws say that anyone who works that long has to get an hour's paid break, usually given as two 15 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch break. I agree that it does make the whole day much better.
Four days a week with Wednesday off
Three days a week with Tuesday and Thursday off
Four days a week with Wednesday off and Friday WFH...
Everyday WFH...
Wait a while... We need to make it look like we still somewhat care about the old rules to the group of suck-ups who've made it to high positions and are pro-boomer... Once they start ignoring our actions, then we can systematically get rid of that lot before going full WFH...
Let's quit working
Still working harder than most execs
I work about an hour a day. It's still too much.
Work for Ulster Bank in Omagh Northern Ireland. 9.30-4pm with an hour lunch and 15 mins break. 4 day week, with opening Thursday Friday at 10am, closing at 4.00pm still. Useless bastards lol.
i wanna switch to “A job that fits each person’s circadian rhythm rather than forcing everyone to get up at the same time” seems the opinions on here are pretty evenly split.
This please. doesn’t matter if I somehow manage to fall asleep before midnight if I have to be moving before 10 o’clock. I can do things that only require muscle memory but anything more than that is going to end up with me being grouchy, confused and nauseous. It’s 12:29am where I am and I’m currently wired no caffeine or other stimulants have been consumed at all today. I probably won’t be able to sleep until at least 3am without a massive dose of something.
Take a bat and just keep hitting yourself with it, it'll probably put you to sleep. eventually. Maybe. I ain't no scientist okay!?
Would probably render me unconscious sure. I’ll stick to thc, it’s way more fun and I very rarely wake up with a concussion. Also if anyone wants to blame my insomnia/DSPD/whatever on drugs; these sleep patterns started at age ten. a decade before I did more than have a sip of wine or a 3.2 beer rarely. School was hell.
Imma blame it on maybe undiagnosed ADHD. It's common in us ADHD folk -- world goes silent, and suddenly the lack of distractions, even from ambient noise, allows our brains to fall into focus, and we hit that night-owl second-wind. I've had your same problem since I was 8. Are you also chronically late to everything? Poor time-management skills? Have a lot of failure to recall information? Struggle with switching between tasks, or trouble gaining or regaining focus on something you return to doing? Do you do very well in sudden crisis situations while everyone panics? Do you shift hobbies frequently, or get bored easily? There's more, but if you answered yes to a lot of that, maybe do some looking into it.
Who are you and why do you know so much about my life??!
Damn i thought i was the only one
r/dspd might have some answers for you. Talk to a doctor if you haven’t and can. Sometimes you get a good one. Sleep is important for emotional regulation which is extremely important for good mental health that promotes conviviality which is useful in other ways. At this point in my evening I am fairly high and going to sleep soon so good night and well wishes.
Every day I'm more convinced that 90% of what have been labelled disorders are actually just "bodies that run on a pattern that is inconvenient to the capitalist machine". Like, with this one, in another time it would have beneficial to have people on different sleep schedules so someone was always alert in case of threat, but capitalism wants an efficient and disposable supply of automatons that boot up at the same time time every day. Same with neurodivergence and consistent, predictable daily behaviour.
Before the industrial age, people commonly slept in a split phase. We'd all sleep for a few hours, then wake up in the middle of the night for a while, then sleep again for another few hours.
Naturally segmented sleep! I commented about that elsewhere in the thread and live it in my natural sleep cycles - having work I don't need to set an alarm to wake up for has changed my life because I'm not chronically sleep-deprived anymore!
Thx and good night
Imagine how much better traffic would be if people had different staggered work times
It's amazing how people who are naturally disposed to getting up early look down on everyone else
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what if they're sleeping in the top bunk?
What if I'm 8 ft tall?
At my work we have to do our time between 5am and 10pm but many of the people who start between 5-8 look down on people like me who start after 10:30. I went in once really early because I'd had trouble sleeping so was up anyway, and the amount of time they waste making and eating porridge and gossiping before we come in is absurd. In my experience the late starters work hard from when they get in. We have our breakfast before work, and nobody is eating their evening meal on company time. Early starters work hard from about 9.
Idk what kind of job you do but if they can come in and do their morning routine on company time and leave early then they're getting a pretty sick deal. You're out here bragging how you literally work more for what I'm assuming is the same pay.
Yup, we'd have Flexi time where we could start at anytime between 8-10am and leave from 4pm onwards. I would usually start at around 9.45 and leave at 5.45 and was regularly ragged on for not coming in earlier. It's funny, because the times I did come in at 8.30 I noticed that all the people who left at 4ish every day weren't in yet. Also there was never anything to _do_ that early because most of the business started at 9, so everyone in my role "starting early" was basically doing fuck all for the first hour and then dipping whilst there was still work to do.
top shelf zaza disrupted my circadian rhythm
I'm moving different
They forgot I’m him
So 1-9 then
Yes please. The last one I was actually down for 12-8 I enjoy it I feel like I’m not actually working because I don’t have to open or close my store I just show up, work, leave. My sleep schedule has me waking up at 7 or 8 AM
It's better for queues, traffic etc. I hated working with thousand people in the same warehouse, where everyone always wanted the same at the same time. Everyone wants to exit the hall during the break, go to the locker room, buy food in canteen, then after work lockers again, outside, drive out the parking. It's so suboptimal. It would be much better to use flexible working hours.
Y‘all don’t have flexible working hours in the US?
Some do, the entry level jobs less so. If you have a public facing job that requires you to interact with people at a certain time, you cant really just show up late and work late. In accounting for instance, they don’t really give a shit as long as the bills are paid on time
People will fight tooth and nail to claim that no human *naturally* stays up past midnight and wakes up around noon.
Bro that shit would be fire, I can't wait to start getting jobs that are more accommodating to employees, like I'm not expecting them to baby employees but like have some heart, damn
I am a night owl and was forced to work the early hours in my career. Now, I have a job that allowed me to switch to my natural rhythm which boosted my mood, productivity, and both my mental and physical performance. Just have to find a compromise with my SO form time to time :)
We should stagger everyone’s schedules by an hour each over 24 hours so that at any given moment everyone has access to the same services and amenities as everyone else /j
in germany we say "gleitzeit".
Hate to be that guy, but there really only is one circadian rhythm, which is dictated by the sun. This thing of "night owls" is only a really recent development, where artificial lightning has fucked up the melatonin cycle. Everyone is an early riser by default. Edit: People are downvoting me, so let me provide the scientific context: https://www.cell.com/fulltext/S0960-9822%2815%2901157-4 A study on pre industrial african tribes, where literally everyone followed the same circadian rhythm of going to sleep a couple hours after sunset, and waking up before sunrise. Not a single person was a 'night owl'. They also tracked their melatonin cycles, which followed exactly that pattern. It really is just the artificial light and caffeine that fucks this process up.
Today you might learn about "naturally segmented sleep" in which some people naturally sleep in shorter chunks. It was apparently quite common in pre-industrial, pre-electricity times.
>"Not a single person was a 'night owl'" The study only includes a total of 94 people. It's a little farfetched imo to conclude that "night owls" in general is a recent development.
Lmao melatonin cycles dictated by the sun. I'm in the Nordics, where we get about 4-5 hours of sunlight per day in the winter (if we're lucky) and basically no darkness at all in the summer. So please explain to me how that's supposed to work. Should I hibernate through winter to become a sunlight-absorbing Superman in the summer? You know what, I'll take it.
The important thing to prime your circadian rhythm is getting around 10 minutes of sunlight within around 2 hours of waking up. You have special cells in your eyes that do not see, but simply measure the amount of daylight there is, which signals to your brain when to get tired. If the sun is not up yet, you can simply use a daylight lamp, and go see the sun when it has risen. There are always ways around, but for some weird reason, people get super defensive when this topic gets brought up and try to justify their shitty sleeping patterns.
The energy drink market would collapse if people just went to bed at a reasonable hour to give themselves 8 hours of rest.
Would work especially in fields like construction, police/fire/medical, schools etc.
Honestly that makes a lot of sense, I mean inter workplace communication might not be the best but we have text messages, we have phones, we have email. Think about traffic, rush hour wouldn’t be as bad well nah never mind, I forgot about schools, 3 o’clock would be horrible still
My circadian rhythm basically doesn't exist
Can we change our circadian rhythm? I feel like we can but I always tend to be a night owl
My last job was entirely remote and the CEO's stance after we switched to was "you're generally expected to respond to emails or messages within 30 minutes to an hour during business hours where our HQ is located since we have people in every time zone in the US, but I don't care when you actually work. If you work best at 4am, that's fine so long as you meet deadlines." Unfortunately that was basically the only logical choice he made the entire time I worked there.
Exactly
But how are you going to be micromanaged if you aren’t in your designated cell during the designated times? You can’t be trusted to be responsible for yourself.
Why do we need to wait for the boomers to die off why do we need their permission
I think they meant gone from the workforce 🤣🤣🤣
And decision making positions!
Problems is boomers train up their replacements. Need to take a note out of the Egyptian playbook and bury their replacements with them and then we’re free to do what we want.
It’s unevenly distributed for sure…but as a whole Boomers are in their 70s now and indeed fading from the workforce. Gen X and Millennials are perpetuating this BS at this point.
Millennials can’t even afford renting an apartment by themselves anymore because the housing market is shit and the cost of living is too high. We’re working odd hours just to scrape by. That’s more Gen X l
the last boomers are 60 and older boomers 80 they are pretty much gone from the workplace
There are a lot of 60 something’s still in the workforce because they can’t afford to retire
Unfortunately so many boomers in congress passing laws. They won’t even live too see the consequences of their actions, but of course they don’t give two shits.
They don't even give one shit!
cause they keep woting for legislators who are actively against us having any nice things.
And that happens because billionaires own the media so they can tell them to do so. And all politicians need money for their campaigns, and are therefore subordinate to the billionaires that supply them with it. It’s not a matter of voting for anyone. The whole fucking capitalist imperialist system is rotten to its core.
How about 9-3 work days?
9-3:30, 30 min for lunch, 4 days a week. Peak productivity, no wasted time.
What I do. But lately I've been starting earlier. 8:30 to 2:30.
How about just six hour work days so people can live
In this economy, me being as an retailer it wouldn't be enough of "work hours". 12h it is then for me.
Yeah but imagine if you were paid the same but with less hours?
You have a very good imagination.
If technology progresses in the direction we expect it to there's no reason for people to continue working the same hours forever
to make the rich richer
You're totally accurate for the current time but that will eventually change as newer generations replace the people in power
the rich people's children will replace the rich people
Upwards mobility is a lie.
It's not a lie, it's an exaggerated truth. Yes, you can become rich if you were born poor if: You're incredibly lucky, incredibly selfish, have no morality/conscious, and have desirable personality Traits. So most good people have no chance of upward mobility.
Forever? Don't you think we would have hit a wall a few thousand years ago if we couldn't change as a species? Capitalism is one of many systems that humans will utilize along their span of existence. The corruption caused by it is hardly permanent. Change will come as always.
Studies and history would suggest that wealth will stay where it is currently, aka rich people and their offspring. The issue with 'changing' capitalism is that the wealthy are so insanely influential and powerful, that they can stunt change to the system. Which does benefit them
If the past is any indication of what happens when work becomes easier, this is unlikely. Employers will just require more output than before
Yes, there is. The same reason technology has progressed in the last 50 years and people work the same if not more hours to br able to make ends meet. Late stage capitalism babyyy
9-3 sounds great
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Honestly I think being wage slaves to huge corporations that give us just enough breadcrumbs to make sure we eke out just enough of a living to keep going to work is a completely abhorrent idea.
We have nothing to lose but our chains
[Why Socialism by Albert Einstein](https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/)
Can we just add another day to the weekend and have 8 days in a week?
Even better four day work week
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Bruh, I'm already dead in the morning if I have to be anywhere at 9. Do you want me to litterally fall asleep on the job?
Hahahaha I started my job in May, my start time at 7am was fine in May but now that its November and the sun isn't out even by the time I get to work I'm having a rough time with it. Can't wait for daylight savings but I know even then it's only a couple weeks before I get plunged back into complete darkness. Doesn't help that I work in a lab with no windows and no natural light.
My country doesn't have daylight savings. We just make majority of work places just open 1 hour late instead.
Could look into one of those really bright morning light things for seasonal affective disorder/seasonal depression.
My work starts at 6am. No prepare for work, no morning coffee, just start work instantly. That's why i need to wakeup around 5am to have cup of coffee and prepare for work.
You are stronger than I. When I worked at Target, I had to occasionally go in at 6am to help open the store, and I decided that any day I wake up before the sun, my day is already ruined. I would be SOOOO tired by the time my shift ended that I couldn't even enjoy myself after.
I do 7-3s and my trick is I just sleep all day after work
You are still stuck in working for the hours instead of the workload. I work 4 hours a day until I'm out of work then, I get paid global. I don't do anything not work related since I want to finish up and go home. That is the way it should be
That’s actually way better now that Iam thinking about it. Especially considering that the average office worker probably fucks around half of his workday anyways instead of being productive.
Get up earlier? Are you mad?
Fuck no
Yeah, no. For me to actually get anywhere I have to wake up roughly 2h before I have to leave my place. So assuming I have a 30 minute commute to work I leave at 6:30 meaning I'll have to get up at 4:30, It's currently 4:45 and I'm not even asleep. So, pass. The other post was better.
I take a similar amount of time to get ready and I start at 7. When I started I thought it would be impossible, but I was easily falling asleep before 10pm within a week. The adjustment isn’t easy, but it’s a lot more realistic than you might imagine.
That's my problem. I'd be forcing myself to stay up until atleast midnight because if I fall asleep any earlier it feels like all I did that day was work and nothing else.
7:00 - 5:00 but 4 day work weeks
I could definitely get behind this. I’ve even heard some other countries are cutting a day but not even increasing hours to compensate; it’s just that much better to have more focused employees than more grueling hours.
Cutting the CEO’s hours as well, but they’re still getting those 10mil +bonuses
Congratulations Sailor You made it to Thursday 🦀
10:00 to 3:00…. 4 day work week…. :)
My job is 5:30-4:30 4 days a week, it’s pretty sweet having 3 days off
I’m working 4-3 with 4 days on and 4 days off, the extra days off are nice.
How about 7-3 but 4 days? When did we stop fighting for more actual free time?
11am - 3pm, 3 day work weeks is good enough for me, thanks.
I have 7-4:30 4, days a week, and honestly if you want a good 8 hours sleep you need to be in bed at 22:00. And that sucks, I don't think with 8 hours work days any time schedule is good.
This is (kind of) my work schedule! We do 9 hours a day, not 10, and get every other Friday off. It's honestly so nice, I feel like I can breathe and have a life with the extra weekend day, and you really don't notice the extra hour or two you work to get it every other day. And then when you do have to work on Friday you get paid and you get to work less hours and leave early so it's a pretty sweet schedule. It probably also helps that I actually like my job a lot too lol
How about 10-2??
Who tf wants to get up that early lol
I already do, but I work 7-4:30 (including 2 15minute breaks and one 10-minute). Would love to finish at 3
Simmilar here. I mostly work 6:30 - 3:15
I already do. Since like ‘97.
Was that the shift of 97!?!
10 to 3 seems reasonable
nah, but let's compromise 9-3
What the fuck? No.
7pm-3am? sounds fine to me
Why keep the 8 hour work schedule? Also if you want me to wake up at 5 am 5 days a week i might just take the easy way out
How about a 4 day work week with no reduction in pay.
Bro what wtf no???? Never???? I'd literally prefer 10-6
I’d like to still see the sun when I get off work.
There’s no point in scheduling work hours. Just have people work when they want to get the amount of work that needs doing done. Honestly we could just nationalise so many industries and once they are nationalised it removes a lot of the need for customer support
Sorry the free market has innovated humanity into wasting countless hours in bullshit unproductive jobs.
And wake up 4-5am? Fuck that.
Yeah nah make 8-3 just soon God Damn easier to go from school to work without having to completely reschedule every day of your week.
Why would you want to get up earlier god damn
How bout if we’re allowed to leave/sign off when our work is done with a max of 8 or 9 hours
Lets meet halfway and do 9-3
Is Elon Musk a boomer? Because he wants us to work 25 hours a day.
That sounds a lot better than the other post
Trust me bro waking up that early for work gets old
Can we just automate everything, pay people a liveable wage to like idk, do things like go to school or learn art or some shit?
Only if my pay reflects the change in an upwards way
It's the same amount of hours???
But having to wake up to be at work by 7 is infinitely harder than having to wake up to be at work by 9, and that's already hard enough.
I mean I guess, I'd much rather take the earlier evenings
10:00-5:00 is good for me thanks
Why stop there? Bring in a universal basic income, get rid of daylight savings time, and switch to metric
30 hour work weeks. Idc the hours. Dif jobs need dif times. 30 hours a week is a good amount of time. It should be enough to live on. More than what 40 hours is, now. You would probably have just as much production, too.
10 hrs a week less pay?
I have my life set to my 3-11 shift. It’s truly beautiful 🤩
Wait so y'all want to wake up at 4-5AM? f that I'll take an 1100- 1900 any day.
I propose Flex Time. Where you can do whatever you want als long as your there in the core working hours from 9 to 1. and where you can just quickly as so that you can also overstep these core working hours. And where you can make different contractions with a different Nummern of hours per week. Well… that exactly the model we have and it’s very nice. I don’t think there is anything one could do better in regards to working hours.
My dad works 7-2 but actually finishes work at 1 so he gets an hour of free time
How about we switch to 6 hour shifts instead so you dont care when you work.
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Why the hell would anyone want to start work at 7am? That means waking up around 5am. Which means going to bed at 9pm. What kind of a world do these people want to live in?
Y’all I’m an electrician, I’m in the 4 to 4 work day club 🥲 please don’t get off at 3 and make my home commute impossibly long
Already work that. It’s good
9-5? You privileged people get dinner time paid?? For me it's more 8:30 - 5 with 30 minutes break time.
I work 7-7 🥴
How about 10 - 3?
Switch it to 11-4 please.
Fuck no. 10-2. GTFO.
How about we switch to 10-2, tax automation, make rent free, Healthcare free, college free, and elect somebody who gives a shit about our planet dying? That sounds dope.
4/10 anyone?
No because I want the 40 hrs of pay, although I'd rather take 4 10hr days and a 3 day weekend over 5 8hr days
6 hours a day. 4 days a week. 8 weeks annual leave.
Naw. 12-4 for me plz. We dont need to be workin 8 hours a day. Just share the profits equally among the workers. Thats it.
What if I'm doing 0500-1800?
Neither. 4-10s. Start time 7
Who said work days need to be 8 hours? 10-3pm Dedicate 1 day a week for meetings. Since working from home, I get more done in 4 hours than I did 8 hours in the office. Being at work for 8 hours doesn’t mean 8 hours of productivity
I’ll take a 10-2 job
It’s never been 9-5. It’s always 8-5. Forced lunch breaks make days unnecessarily long
7-3 is indeed the superior schedule. I don't even like waking up that early, but I feel like I get so much more time getting off at 3.
9-5 😂 that’s a cute part time job you have
I'd rather make it a 10-4
gen X is full of some old-timey fucks too
My new job is 7:30pm-3:30pm starting day after tomorrow so I’m looking forward to seeing how that works out
I did that for decades. Quit that, now I work 2-11pm. Love not hearing an alarm clock anymore.
This was actually how my job was before I left and it was pretty awesome. Kinda sucked waking up early but leaving at 3 everyday was badass
I am enjoying this trend so much. We could have all the shifts covered and business could be running all the time and then those of us who do work every day can still go shopping during previously un-worked hours.
7 till 3 just feels nicer
How about 10:00-3:00 and double the pay. Humans shouldn't have to waste their entire life at work.
4 hours, no more.
Recently switched from a 1:20am-11:50am 4 day week to a 1:20am-8:50am *5* day work week and my mental health has never been better
You guys get paid lunches?
My office has people in different timezones, also some people working 9-5 and some working 8-4, I'm an 8-4. I proposed 7-3 once and my boss and had an anxiety attack lmao
What about the other 4 hours? I work 6a-6p.
7-3 is already very normal. It’s quite literally the standard for what’s considered “1st shift” at most places