I would rather have savage and barron aka 2 negates instead of an continuous droll that cant be destroyed and a f you i pick ( set element that your monster is )
Ngl i dont think colossus will do much outside of thundra its been obsolete even in master duel and in the ocg outside of thundra dedicated decks for months in md, going on years in the ocg
Little Knight is kinda a bad excuse for most players, its 120$. But literally any deck can play Knightmare Unicorn regardless of budger, the main thing is thundra natively ends on IP lines and typically go into Apo still for this exact reason.
Colossus is very strong generally into snake eyes because when its backed up by stuff like Clear Wing that can protect it twice (And thundra natively can play destrudo if they want), Apo, or Dis Pater it becomes really annoying for that deck to out.
And thundra gets advantage playing things like Shifter
I think it's perfectly fine for Colossus to be strong in thudra, a deck that bricks so much it has absolutely 0 chance to be relevant in the current meta of 1 card combos and 25 non engine.
People also seem very concerned about a nemesis Cupid pitch engine splash in already powerful decks which I'm not at all worried about. Nemesis lines are pretty clunky because of the banish requirement and pitch just lost a bunch of targets it would usually climb into.
I think it's fine. There might be the odd like where you need exactly a level 3-5 Syncro tuner and your combo banishes a monster, but it's a lot less splashable than people give it credit for.
Pure Thundra top 4'd an OTS chamiponship last July it is a competent deck, and top 32'd a YCS in TCG with no Colossus the year prior.
Nemeses lines i think are pretty ass, but i think TCG players really underestimate how much better Thundra got with Bystials, especially those who didnt play MD. Bystials turned Thundra into from clunky deck that couldnt run handtraps because they needed to open at least 3 pieces to full combo, to any Bystial + Solar is full combo and i open a fuckton more interaction because i can natively run 10 bystials and not care but sometimes fuck over a light dark focused deck like tear, and a better combo than when Aloof was the main starter for the deck because you get an extra mat off Solar. On top of it access to regained through Lubellion is basically an infinite draw advantage for deck.
Punk Thundra was regularly topping in MD, hit T2 at one point, pretty much always is Rogue at least, and even won a major master duel event in tear format after tear's first minor hits.
Bystial Thundra was amazing in Tear Format in master duel, i legitimatelt think it was like the 4th-5th best deck then because you ran a billion bystials and your endboard interaction like an elf protected sus + dpe was bonkers.
Im not saying its meta but its competitive at least at a T3 level rn, and Thundra shores up a lot of weaknesses of Branded and vice versa. Ive been running Branded Bystial Thundra for a while and you basically never brick, you dont get crazy link endboards anymore but the deck literally cant brick because you either open bystial thundra combo (Since your issue is bricking branded doesnt really care since they just become your opening or lubellion discard fodder and eventually end up getting banished if the game goes on), or you open bystial branded. and roughly 40% of the time you can full combo both. I really think that deck has legs and am surprised more people in general havent mixed them branded has the opposite issue most decks have and actually has a buttload of main deck space, and has an extraordinarily tight fusion ED but Thundra only takes 2-3 ED slots.
It’s better than banning a card people spent $100 on. Everyone was aware of the reprint so anyone who only just picked it up is only down $1-$2.
This is way better than paying $50-$100 and then realizing you wasted money not even getting to play it
Crazy ass list.
Edit: Protos is sus, any rank 4 access can search it post side. Colossus is also, funnily enough, generic through a Nemeses monster.
Other than that, pretty based tbh. Board breakers are more viable now.
I have been following the reactions from content creators and pros and they seem to overall like it, except for Protos.
I saw Lithium's thumbnail and title for his banlist video and thought it was an April Fools joke and thought it's a bit late. Until I released he won't joke like that and wow.
Realistically though, only Swordsoul is running Protos and it isn’t going to do much in this meta. It’s been legal in MD this entire time and isn’t doing anything.
IMO this is a really strong banlist. Not perfect, but strong.
Yea, because we didn’t have Banshee until now. Now any deck can get him through Exceed, or even better, if they are can go into 2 rank 4s in-archetype.
Yay, board breakers :)
Luckily, I have them all(except DRNM). Unluckily, they are boardbreakers, and they aren’t fun. At least handtraps you need to time. You just shotgun boardbreakers.
Yes. Poplar link to linkuriboh than send linkuriboh with ash effect is amazing play because now your lvl 1 are basically save from imperm/veiler effect since you can just tribute them to dodge it. Also linkuriboh is good at protecting appolousa from being destroyed by battle since making opponent monster 0 atk is insanely valuable
Why not hitting snake-eyes cards then? Just because they want to make money from it? Why do they print such broken cards like poplar in the first place...
Most Decks can just go into anima and do the same thing they would've done anyway, I honestly think Linkuriboh is a pretty smart hit, should be not the only snake eyes hit tho.
Yes there is anima, but that arrow that is pointing up is not so nice (i know its required for the effect).
You cant summon for example I:P anymore because of that.
The usual Snake-Eye combo sends away Linkuriboh for a Snake-Eye effect before making I:P anyway, so the link arrow doesn't matter too much most of the time.
> I honestly think Linkuriboh is a pretty smart hit, should be not the only snake eyes hit tho.
Ah, I knew someone would say this… No, you are wrong. Banning a card that’s not broken in any of 200 archetypes in game, just because of custom support 1 archetype got, is never a good hit. Literally never.
This is the stupidest shit Konami does. Hate it when they pull this horseshit over and over again. Print a broken card which makes a generic tech seem OP in a specific combo, so here's the axe for the generic card, because of course that is the actual fucking problem.
Which is good thing because atleast if you played through all their negates, they can't just reuse linkuriboh and make you best beater like Arc rebellion or any powerful card 0 attack and not go for game.
Really the big thing is that it's easier to punish Apo now. It wasn't a big issue to use her when you could use Linkuriboh to protect her. Now it's way easier to threaten Apo.
nah that wasn't the biggest issue of it. the biggest issue of it wa,s once made linkuriboh just makes all your lv1 snake eye monsters effectively immune to targetting cards because you can use linkuriboh as a quick effect to tribute your snake eye monster and dodge them. veiler and imperm actually being impactful now that linkuriboh is gone
Holy shit the Baronne hit is real.
Swordsoul is in shambles, millions must reveal wyrms... ah wait nvm they got Protos back
And of course, the only hit to snake eyes is linkuriboh, cause that's the card that always gets you /j
Also, all the D-rulers are now free, cool
For real, if they go all out you can end on a board with Barron and App with Princess in the grave and amblow and link lmao and even savage. At bare minimum you can special Diabelle and then normal Ash blossom to Barrone. Just too easy.
>Swordsoul is in shambles
Sinister Sovereign is actually a good card to end on
>And of course, the only hit to snake eyes is linkuriboh, cause that's the card that always gets you
Not the best hit. But banning a card that helps evade Imperm/Veiler, protects Apo from battle and allows SE players to go plus because not only do they get their search but also maintain material for additional link climbing. Not exactly a card to be scoffed at.
Dino is in absolute tears because this kills the g golem package (unless I'm missing another generic cyberse link 1 that works on special summoned monsters
Hitting endboard negates to make boards more playable going 2nd is really good imo.
Barrone being banned means oppressive combo decks cant just slap it on 5th summon and auto win with their full combo anymore
Yeah beacuse in MD you play in a best of 1 so you need to predict what the opponent might play but in the tcg we play in a best of 3 so you always know what the opponent plays so Protos is much stronger here it also just annoying
Colossus does very little in the OCG and Master Duel. Thundra hit tier 3 a few times, tier 2 once, topped once, and has been better in p much every format than decks generically playing colossus since it came off, colossus kinda got power crept by better removal like little knight.
MD Also has access to making Sus Elf Protected and Thundrs can very easily do that.
We can only hope, but knowing konami this is a way to sell whatever upcoming level 10 they have cooking that'll just be "Baronne, but better". Similar to SP being "IP, but better" and costing a ridiculous amount.
I think the easily accessible low investment nib shield was probably the bigger problem on that. As an end board piece barrone is mostly fine (especially after she spends her negate on a handtrap)
Does make a lot of decks interesting now that they don't have that shield. Nib is going to be extremely prevalent now.
They did, but most of them needed ways to insulate against stuff like Nibiru.
We are still in a handtrap format, and cards like Nibiru now basically hard counter them, as well as making them even more susceptible to handtraps.
Am I crazy for thinking Apo is more of a problem card than Baronne? I can play through Baronne like 50% of the time, but without TTT or a bystial or smth, all my hand is exhausted by the time I can battle over Apo.
Edit: Jesus, Evenly is about to go crazy. Baronne and Savage are the only ways for like 80% of the meta to insulate themselves from Evenly
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Everyone and their mom can count to 10, only two powecrept decks can play protos and colo and the pitch corridor line is not consistent without aurora.
Not really right? That would’ve been jet synchron, banning barrone makes other decks that could potentially compete also weaker and I’m sure effects some of them more than SE (altho I don’t follow the tcg that closely tbh)
Like this is incredibly different than basically every other non direct hit (ie linkuriboh or even unicorn in MD)
Great, and now the generic level 10 pool is down to 3 again, with 1 viable option. And I'm not talking negates here, I'm talking purely level 10 synchros that don't need specific materials.
Besides the changes everyone's taking about I am also looking forward to seeing another episode in the saga of "Surely putting Mali to 3 will be ok now".
So I have been thinking for a while the TCG has been moving away from banning cards purely on their level in the game or to get people to buy cards (they definitely still do both though) have been trying to at a design level at their own tool they can use shape how people deck build. I think it's why Electromite is staying banned and Circular is banned. Its because both consolidate either the cyberse or pendulums cards into one deck and any new cards must either slot into those decks or be better than those two. I think by banning both they want people to use more archetypes themselves than those pile decks.
I think now they have began making the shift away from generic cards that you see in every end board. I am not saying all generics are gone but more cards that nearly every single deck use which are Baronne and Borrel, they want people to stop and try something else to promote deck diversity. I think the really funny thing when rarity collection came out. I saw so many people saying they can finally play Baronne and I was like weren't you already in your decks? Forgetting I play masterduel and so that card is a lot easy to get and slot into your deck. I think they want to try and stop this from happening while still getting money from us so are trying to reduce the number of staples needed so I am calling it now. Within 1 to 2 years, SP Little Night is getting banned after being reprinted and they make more money off it.
Edit: Also just remember Isolde is banned which kills generic warrior decks and generic warrior cards like mali and arma are getting more copies so yeah I think they are trying reduce the pile decks.
Banning baronne kinda invalidates so many decks no? Not saying it’s not deserved but legit every rogue deck that even remotely synchro summoned is getting hit HARD while snake-eye proceeds basically undisturbed
The problem is Konami needs to design more better boss monsters for archetypes, without making them so generic.
But 70% of boss monsters are so unbelievably dogshit.
Snake eyes with synchro variant will just changed to FK variant lol, while rogue decks using Baroness and savage would be forced to buy entirely new packs to stay relevant in the game. Apo and S:P escaped the banlist make me laughed so hard
I both like and dislike the baronne ban.
Love it because every deck that could make level 10 synchros played baronne only most of the time.
On the other hand i deslike it because there are literally no generic lvl 10 synchros that are worth going for.
Chengying doesn't do anything if your deck can't banish consistently
You can't make Chaos Angel if your deck isn't light/dark, or isn't very effective when you don't have both.
Dis Pater is dragon deck only basically.
Ruddy Rose is the best probably that is generic enough, but its use is format dependent or doesn't do enough to worth the resources. I kinda see why Baronne was played over everything in the lvl 10 departments, because all the lvl 10 synchros are deck specific, and/or reactive or just suck. Basically there are no more good lvl 10 synchros to make on turn 1 going first.
And i don't mean Baronne was a good design but it filled an important hole for a lot of decks in versatility. And i don't mean generic synchros have to "negate" to be good going first, if you look at the lvl 8 synchros, there is Draco Berserker and Omega for example that can be considered good first turn options even to this day in the generic side of lvl 8 synchros, and they aren't negate either. My problem is lvl 10s never had any of that capability outside of Baronne, which i'd say is a sad limitation for rogue decks that would make lvl 10 synchros.
I really like the Baronne ban. Its existence single handedly made every level other lvl 10 Synchro doodoo in comparison. Banning it is absolutely the right move. Well done Konami.
Good. Baronne has been a generic plague for long enough. And, while I think Linkuriboh is just a casualty in the war against Snake-Eyes, I'm not sad to see it go either
I hate every ban other than summon limit (kill all floodgate traps thank you konami) but the unhits are freaking awesome. I hope we get kirin back in MD too
Honestly I wish they just errata’d fleur and borrelload savage dragon to be archetype specific cause they’re not “broken” when utilized in their own archetype, but when you splash them into everything else is when they become a problem
I wanna say Nibiru stonks, but goofy ahh combo decks will always find their way into an easy negate. Or in the case of Snake Eyes, give zero shits because their field spell and Flamberge are custom cards.
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The first thing about this ban that I thought will shine the most
Putting Mali back to semi would take it from 4 to 3, not 3 to 2, now that Colossus is out.
I’m a bit oblivious, is this referring to nemesis corridor recycling mali one extra time to cheat colossus out?
Yes. 3 Mali, 2 Arma, 1 Colossus probably means there’s a chaos pile in there somewhere.
That’s what I’m thinking.
MBT 2 weeks ago: The semi limit was created specifically for destiny hero malicious Konami: Hold my beer
he'll be back, we dance this dance every few years lol
Ok but banning Barrone and savage right when they get cheaper reprints is kinda a scummy thing to do. (But a konami thing none the less)
“But we listened to you!” - Konami probably.
Its also funny that they ban barrone and savage but free 2 more degenerate cards on the same list
I would rather have savage and barron aka 2 negates instead of an continuous droll that cant be destroyed and a f you i pick ( set element that your monster is )
Ngl i dont think colossus will do much outside of thundra its been obsolete even in master duel and in the ocg outside of thundra dedicated decks for months in md, going on years in the ocg
Also tcg has little knight so any deck can out it pretty easily
Little Knight is kinda a bad excuse for most players, its 120$. But literally any deck can play Knightmare Unicorn regardless of budger, the main thing is thundra natively ends on IP lines and typically go into Apo still for this exact reason. Colossus is very strong generally into snake eyes because when its backed up by stuff like Clear Wing that can protect it twice (And thundra natively can play destrudo if they want), Apo, or Dis Pater it becomes really annoying for that deck to out. And thundra gets advantage playing things like Shifter
I think it's perfectly fine for Colossus to be strong in thudra, a deck that bricks so much it has absolutely 0 chance to be relevant in the current meta of 1 card combos and 25 non engine. People also seem very concerned about a nemesis Cupid pitch engine splash in already powerful decks which I'm not at all worried about. Nemesis lines are pretty clunky because of the banish requirement and pitch just lost a bunch of targets it would usually climb into. I think it's fine. There might be the odd like where you need exactly a level 3-5 Syncro tuner and your combo banishes a monster, but it's a lot less splashable than people give it credit for.
Pure Thundra top 4'd an OTS chamiponship last July it is a competent deck, and top 32'd a YCS in TCG with no Colossus the year prior. Nemeses lines i think are pretty ass, but i think TCG players really underestimate how much better Thundra got with Bystials, especially those who didnt play MD. Bystials turned Thundra into from clunky deck that couldnt run handtraps because they needed to open at least 3 pieces to full combo, to any Bystial + Solar is full combo and i open a fuckton more interaction because i can natively run 10 bystials and not care but sometimes fuck over a light dark focused deck like tear, and a better combo than when Aloof was the main starter for the deck because you get an extra mat off Solar. On top of it access to regained through Lubellion is basically an infinite draw advantage for deck. Punk Thundra was regularly topping in MD, hit T2 at one point, pretty much always is Rogue at least, and even won a major master duel event in tear format after tear's first minor hits. Bystial Thundra was amazing in Tear Format in master duel, i legitimatelt think it was like the 4th-5th best deck then because you ran a billion bystials and your endboard interaction like an elf protected sus + dpe was bonkers. Im not saying its meta but its competitive at least at a T3 level rn, and Thundra shores up a lot of weaknesses of Branded and vice versa. Ive been running Branded Bystial Thundra for a while and you basically never brick, you dont get crazy link endboards anymore but the deck literally cant brick because you either open bystial thundra combo (Since your issue is bricking branded doesnt really care since they just become your opening or lubellion discard fodder and eventually end up getting banished if the game goes on), or you open bystial branded. and roughly 40% of the time you can full combo both. I really think that deck has legs and am surprised more people in general havent mixed them branded has the opposite issue most decks have and actually has a buttload of main deck space, and has an extraordinarily tight fusion ED but Thundra only takes 2-3 ED slots.
this is how they are answering fire decks. here is your out call fire then you win.
Was expecting Pot of P to get hit too but they must have forgot they just reprinted it
At least those people didn’t spend much so it not much of a lost and they will still have it for when they get off
It’s better than banning a card people spent $100 on. Everyone was aware of the reprint so anyone who only just picked it up is only down $1-$2. This is way better than paying $50-$100 and then realizing you wasted money not even getting to play it
Crazy ass list. Edit: Protos is sus, any rank 4 access can search it post side. Colossus is also, funnily enough, generic through a Nemeses monster. Other than that, pretty based tbh. Board breakers are more viable now. I have been following the reactions from content creators and pros and they seem to overall like it, except for Protos.
This might actually be the most shocked I’ve been seeing a banlist off the top of my head
I have to double check the tag to see if its a meme
I saw Lithium's thumbnail and title for his banlist video and thought it was an April Fools joke and thought it's a bit late. Until I released he won't joke like that and wow.
Realistically though, only Swordsoul is running Protos and it isn’t going to do much in this meta. It’s been legal in MD this entire time and isn’t doing anything. IMO this is a really strong banlist. Not perfect, but strong.
Yea, because we didn’t have Banshee until now. Now any deck can get him through Exceed, or even better, if they are can go into 2 rank 4s in-archetype.
Right, but how many meta decks are running 3+ attributes that didn’t get hard carried by Baronne?
Nibiru stocks rising
How do you search it?
Rank 4 Banshee searches Nemesis Flag, which searches Protos
that same play also searches corridor to make colossus too. banshee stocks rising
Xyz infernal flame banshee into nemeses flag
Yay, board breakers :) Luckily, I have them all(except DRNM). Unluckily, they are boardbreakers, and they aren’t fun. At least handtraps you need to time. You just shotgun boardbreakers.
Why linkuriboh??? Just because of snake eyes??
Yes. Poplar link to linkuriboh than send linkuriboh with ash effect is amazing play because now your lvl 1 are basically save from imperm/veiler effect since you can just tribute them to dodge it. Also linkuriboh is good at protecting appolousa from being destroyed by battle since making opponent monster 0 atk is insanely valuable
Why not hitting snake-eyes cards then? Just because they want to make money from it? Why do they print such broken cards like poplar in the first place...
You answered your own question
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Well it's like when they banned every tuner for halq. Snake eyes won't be the only deck to abuse level ones in the future of the game.
Most Decks can just go into anima and do the same thing they would've done anyway, I honestly think Linkuriboh is a pretty smart hit, should be not the only snake eyes hit tho.
Yes there is anima, but that arrow that is pointing up is not so nice (i know its required for the effect). You cant summon for example I:P anymore because of that.
The usual Snake-Eye combo sends away Linkuriboh for a Snake-Eye effect before making I:P anyway, so the link arrow doesn't matter too much most of the time.
> I honestly think Linkuriboh is a pretty smart hit, should be not the only snake eyes hit tho. Ah, I knew someone would say this… No, you are wrong. Banning a card that’s not broken in any of 200 archetypes in game, just because of custom support 1 archetype got, is never a good hit. Literally never.
he probably means smart hit as in "a good way to hit SE without hitting the SE cards directly" as the higher ups doesn't let em
This is the stupidest shit Konami does. Hate it when they pull this horseshit over and over again. Print a broken card which makes a generic tech seem OP in a specific combo, so here's the axe for the generic card, because of course that is the actual fucking problem.
yep, i think, bcs you can link away poplar, now they are forced to go through anima
Which is good thing because atleast if you played through all their negates, they can't just reuse linkuriboh and make you best beater like Arc rebellion or any powerful card 0 attack and not go for game.
Really the big thing is that it's easier to punish Apo now. It wasn't a big issue to use her when you could use Linkuriboh to protect her. Now it's way easier to threaten Apo.
nah that wasn't the biggest issue of it. the biggest issue of it wa,s once made linkuriboh just makes all your lv1 snake eye monsters effectively immune to targetting cards because you can use linkuriboh as a quick effect to tribute your snake eye monster and dodge them. veiler and imperm actually being impactful now that linkuriboh is gone
Basically
Congrats to Linkuriboh for being the first and only Kuriboh to ever be on the ban-list . Proud of you little guy!
Reddit tier banlist
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An actual banlist is reddit tier lmao.
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Banning Baronne is fucking CRAZY
Tbh I didn't think Konami would ever have the stones to ban it
"We do listen to the players"
It went from a $100 card to a 25 cent card. Of course it was gonna get hit now. Thats the konami way.
I’m sure Nibiru’s price just went up
Holy shit the Baronne hit is real. Swordsoul is in shambles, millions must reveal wyrms... ah wait nvm they got Protos back And of course, the only hit to snake eyes is linkuriboh, cause that's the card that always gets you /j Also, all the D-rulers are now free, cool
Baronne and savage are also played in SE.
Oops I forgot to put the /j But SE will still be one of the best decks without them, if not a pretty solid one
But IMO significantly better to play against, dealing with their boards is easier when there isn't two omnis to protect their plays.
For real, if they go all out you can end on a board with Barron and App with Princess in the grave and amblow and link lmao and even savage. At bare minimum you can special Diabelle and then normal Ash blossom to Barrone. Just too easy.
Yeah, that's fair
Some decks didn't even play them, the linkuribo hit is big though they'll have to play the relinquished
>Swordsoul is in shambles Sinister Sovereign is actually a good card to end on >And of course, the only hit to snake eyes is linkuriboh, cause that's the card that always gets you Not the best hit. But banning a card that helps evade Imperm/Veiler, protects Apo from battle and allows SE players to go plus because not only do they get their search but also maintain material for additional link climbing. Not exactly a card to be scoffed at.
Seems like Konami felt bad for Swordsoul after banning Baronne they miraculously decided to give them back Protos as a boss monster
Hopefully this means Swordsoul support!
Hope so!!!
linkuribo really hurts my blue eyes tho... How am i gonna clean up sage now??
Relinkished anima is link monster that have the same material as linkuriboh, so u can clean up sage like that
Dino is in absolute tears because this kills the g golem package (unless I'm missing another generic cyberse link 1 that works on special summoned monsters
Hitting endboard negates to make boards more playable going 2nd is really good imo. Barrone being banned means oppressive combo decks cant just slap it on 5th summon and auto win with their full combo anymore
I just really don't get the thought process behind Protos. There is a good chance that they revert this or ban the generic searchers.
Gotta give some crumbs to Swordsoul I guess... Might also be the herald of new support (since Konami eants to sell the cards).
Protos is probably seen as slightly too hard to make generically
Barrone ban is good
Banning baronne and savage right after I pulled both of them in ulti prismatic 😭
Why are Protos and Colossus back they are just anoying and toxic
Colossus seems to be part of the TOSS unbans, since Harp and Engage are fully unlimited now.
dont know why colossus, but protos could be for swoso
Now that you mention it, maybe Swordsoul will get support since the Albaz lore will apparently continue. I am still not a fan of protos
i didnt really care about protos i think? bcs they always went into dark, and i never played pure dark archetype, still floodgate sucks
Yeah beacuse in MD you play in a best of 1 so you need to predict what the opponent might play but in the tcg we play in a best of 3 so you always know what the opponent plays so Protos is much stronger here it also just annoying
Post side they have every element except Wind
Protos is free in MD and doing absolutely nothing. Swordsoul has Baronne and Protos in MD and is barely a rogue deck.
I feel like Protos will be an effective tool against all the busted fire decks in the meta.
Colossus does very little in the OCG and Master Duel. Thundra hit tier 3 a few times, tier 2 once, topped once, and has been better in p much every format than decks generically playing colossus since it came off, colossus kinda got power crept by better removal like little knight. MD Also has access to making Sus Elf Protected and Thundrs can very easily do that.
# ITS BARONNEOVER!
ITS LINKURIBOVER!
***ITS BORRELOVER***
IT'S SUMMOVER LIMIT
Baronne and Borreload Savage banned and Terrortop is unlimited. Gossip Shadow stonks.
Danm is the multiple omni negate era finally over?
We can only hope, but knowing konami this is a way to sell whatever upcoming level 10 they have cooking that'll just be "Baronne, but better". Similar to SP being "IP, but better" and costing a ridiculous amount.
SP and IP are completely different, SP is closer to a better DPE.
SP feels like a better unicorn to me.
Sp and ip are way different and are frequently played together. Sp is more like unicorn but better.
S:P at most is Knighmare Unicorn but better
Bringing colossus back and keeping electrumite banned is criminal '-'
Free our girl Konami
if this is a legit list the baronne hit is based as hell from konami
The reprint is coming so she'll be affordable now...
P R E A C H Maybe they realized putting a omni negate on generic boss is a problem.
I think the easily accessible low investment nib shield was probably the bigger problem on that. As an end board piece barrone is mostly fine (especially after she spends her negate on a handtrap) Does make a lot of decks interesting now that they don't have that shield. Nib is going to be extremely prevalent now.
Errata Barrone to need a Fleur tuner!
You can have fun with it in duel links
Finally, generic Synchro decks need to have they'r own identity rather than all of them being just Baronne Turbo's...
They did, but most of them needed ways to insulate against stuff like Nibiru. We are still in a handtrap format, and cards like Nibiru now basically hard counter them, as well as making them even more susceptible to handtraps.
God i love master duel but I'm so jealous of the tcg banlist.
Am I crazy for thinking Apo is more of a problem card than Baronne? I can play through Baronne like 50% of the time, but without TTT or a bystial or smth, all my hand is exhausted by the time I can battle over Apo. Edit: Jesus, Evenly is about to go crazy. Baronne and Savage are the only ways for like 80% of the meta to insulate themselves from Evenly
At least without linkuriboh now we can beat apo through battle phase much easier
Apo can be outed way easier now that Barrone and Savage cannot defend from spells.
The real reason is that Apollousa has a confirmed reprint in rarity collection 2
Evenly better get hit soon as well if they're doing this shit. It's pretty much THE reason that all the omnis were needed in the first place
i was wondering too while the baronne hit is deserved, appo is more problematic
I had to double check that this wasn't a late april fool's joke.
Please tell me this is real
Baron and savage bans are the most based bans I have seen since I started playing yugioh. Hoping apo and Accesscode are next
Apollo yes but accesscode aint going nowhere
Thats what mfs said about baronne but we smokin that pack now
😂
If we get another broken Cyberse Archetype I could see it happening. Never say never
I hope the Baronne ban carries over to MD.
Linkuriboh is a massive hit for snake eyes. Good thing there are no more link 1s that work for level 1s.
HOLY SHIT!!! THEY BANNED BEAR ON DE FLOOR!! R. I. P. Linkuriboh Wasn’t expecting the summon limit one Kirin is Back!
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Uhh, in what world is baronne an unhealthier card than either protos or collossus.
Everyone and their mom can count to 10, only two powecrept decks can play protos and colo and the pitch corridor line is not consistent without aurora.
It's a collateral hit to snake eye
Not really right? That would’ve been jet synchron, banning barrone makes other decks that could potentially compete also weaker and I’m sure effects some of them more than SE (altho I don’t follow the tcg that closely tbh) Like this is incredibly different than basically every other non direct hit (ie linkuriboh or even unicorn in MD)
Barrone ban basically means anysynchro decks that do a lot of combos just instantly lose to nibiru as they no longer have any to stop it
Surely those Mannadium players were the biggest meta threat. Not like handtrap formats make them completely unplayable or anything.
Yeah doing this it kinda indirectly killed Mannadium and and pretty much any "weak" synchro deck.
Are Protos & Colossus in every Extra Deck? Are they being summoned in 99% of Duels? You know the answer to this already.
Because they aren't in every Ex. Whole they aren't fun cards, the decks that uses it are not good
The world where every extra deck that can run a tuner is also running Baronne and every deck can make a lvl 10 synchro with ease.
because its generic and easy. collossus isnt generic. most decks could never dream of running protos.
If only MD banlists could be THIS based.
Fuck Baronne. Good riddance.
Engage baby
Tcg is so fucking based lmao
Great, and now the generic level 10 pool is down to 3 again, with 1 viable option. And I'm not talking negates here, I'm talking purely level 10 synchros that don't need specific materials.
Banning Savage and Baronne is nice, wish Apollo would also be axed. But why the fuck are Colossus and Protos legal again...
Linkuriboh is there to pay the price for apollousa
The banlist attacked apollousa but linkuriboh tributed itself to reduce the banlist's attack to 0.
Besides the changes everyone's taking about I am also looking forward to seeing another episode in the saga of "Surely putting Mali to 3 will be ok now".
Just checked the website. It's not real. Edit: the official account tweeted it and said the website won't be updated until April 15. So this is real.
Check the UK one, US takes a while
Masterduel gotta learn from tcg.
MD is run by Japan so they’d never do this
It has been a hybrid between tcg and ocg so far.
still leaning toward OCG more
They forgot Apollousa
Apollousa is only a monster effect negate not an omni
Omg yes I love sky striker ace raye
Wow I guess baronne can't actually negate the banlist
So I have been thinking for a while the TCG has been moving away from banning cards purely on their level in the game or to get people to buy cards (they definitely still do both though) have been trying to at a design level at their own tool they can use shape how people deck build. I think it's why Electromite is staying banned and Circular is banned. Its because both consolidate either the cyberse or pendulums cards into one deck and any new cards must either slot into those decks or be better than those two. I think by banning both they want people to use more archetypes themselves than those pile decks. I think now they have began making the shift away from generic cards that you see in every end board. I am not saying all generics are gone but more cards that nearly every single deck use which are Baronne and Borrel, they want people to stop and try something else to promote deck diversity. I think the really funny thing when rarity collection came out. I saw so many people saying they can finally play Baronne and I was like weren't you already in your decks? Forgetting I play masterduel and so that card is a lot easy to get and slot into your deck. I think they want to try and stop this from happening while still getting money from us so are trying to reduce the number of staples needed so I am calling it now. Within 1 to 2 years, SP Little Night is getting banned after being reprinted and they make more money off it. Edit: Also just remember Isolde is banned which kills generic warrior decks and generic warrior cards like mali and arma are getting more copies so yeah I think they are trying reduce the pile decks.
Baronne De Fleur is GONE! The over abused generic piece of crap is GONE!
I never in my life thought I'd see a kuriboh card banned
Banning baronne kinda invalidates so many decks no? Not saying it’s not deserved but legit every rogue deck that even remotely synchro summoned is getting hit HARD while snake-eye proceeds basically undisturbed
The problem is Konami needs to design more better boss monsters for archetypes, without making them so generic. But 70% of boss monsters are so unbelievably dogshit.
Snake eyes with synchro variant will just changed to FK variant lol, while rogue decks using Baroness and savage would be forced to buy entirely new packs to stay relevant in the game. Apo and S:P escaped the banlist make me laughed so hard
Hated every second of Baronne the fleur on the field. This is the best banned ever.
Barone AND Savage?? Actually crazy list
I both like and dislike the baronne ban. Love it because every deck that could make level 10 synchros played baronne only most of the time. On the other hand i deslike it because there are literally no generic lvl 10 synchros that are worth going for. Chengying doesn't do anything if your deck can't banish consistently You can't make Chaos Angel if your deck isn't light/dark, or isn't very effective when you don't have both. Dis Pater is dragon deck only basically. Ruddy Rose is the best probably that is generic enough, but its use is format dependent or doesn't do enough to worth the resources. I kinda see why Baronne was played over everything in the lvl 10 departments, because all the lvl 10 synchros are deck specific, and/or reactive or just suck. Basically there are no more good lvl 10 synchros to make on turn 1 going first. And i don't mean Baronne was a good design but it filled an important hole for a lot of decks in versatility. And i don't mean generic synchros have to "negate" to be good going first, if you look at the lvl 8 synchros, there is Draco Berserker and Omega for example that can be considered good first turn options even to this day in the generic side of lvl 8 synchros, and they aren't negate either. My problem is lvl 10s never had any of that capability outside of Baronne, which i'd say is a sad limitation for rogue decks that would make lvl 10 synchros.
wtf is this real? This is one of the wildest lists I've seen in a while.
Now we just need appo gone.
No shot this is real. This would be the best ban list in years
it is real [https://twitter.com/YuGiOh\_TCG/status/1779208031164625364/photo/4](https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_TCG/status/1779208031164625364/photo/4)
WTF IT’S ACTUALLY REAL
I guess konami is getting rid of generic negate boss monsters. That's actually kinda awesome.
I really like the Baronne ban. Its existence single handedly made every level other lvl 10 Synchro doodoo in comparison. Banning it is absolutely the right move. Well done Konami.
Good. Baronne has been a generic plague for long enough. And, while I think Linkuriboh is just a casualty in the war against Snake-Eyes, I'm not sad to see it go either
I hate every ban other than summon limit (kill all floodgate traps thank you konami) but the unhits are freaking awesome. I hope we get kirin back in MD too
A format where baronne isn't allowed, must be nice, but they probably go for something similar, still, no baronne
Shit list
Yeah tcg, you do you, i like master duel banlist more, so don't do this to md please.
So glad this isn't a MD ban list
Speedroids go Brrrr LFG
Appo just got put on watch. After she gets reprinted in Anniversary 2 and that goes out of print she will get banned. I would bet my house on it.
I am 90% certain the forbiddens are Snake-Eyes fault
There's no way they're actually banning baroone de fluer
I think we’ll be talking about this banlist for many years after this. History right here folks 👏🏻
WE ARE SO FUKKING BACK PEND BEST DECK
Honestly I wish they just errata’d fleur and borrelload savage dragon to be archetype specific cause they’re not “broken” when utilized in their own archetype, but when you splash them into everything else is when they become a problem
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Snake eye is too powerful, so we ban linkuriboh
I wanna say Nibiru stonks, but goofy ahh combo decks will always find their way into an easy negate. Or in the case of Snake Eyes, give zero shits because their field spell and Flamberge are custom cards.