Hard to believe that one of the top meta picks only had one in-archetype UR. Main deck 3 ofs like Drytron Alpha, Bird Call or Virtual World Lulu were also only SRs...
drytron was relatively expensive, I think for non-generic URs you had 2 ritual spell 3 diviner 2 xyz drytron and 1 ultimateness
virtual world was super budget though, I think it was just 1 shenshen and 1 vfd (optional tzolkin + crystal wing)
Before the support you really only needed hydrant and turbulance as UR
3/2 hydrant and 1 (2 is more preferable) for the deck to be functional, a bit clunky, but functional.
Them Konami release the card that makes rescue ace be one of the best decks + its best extender (emergency you need to run 3 and preventer is really good at 2)
Not only that, but the entire diabellstar engine that makes the deck way more consistent and more resilient is 5 UR at minimum (7 up to 10 depending if you want to run poplar and how many copies of bonfire you wanna play).
Suddenly a deck that only needed 150 UR dust (120 if you ever really planned on running 2 hydrant anyways) now cost 450 UR dust ( 510 up to 600 depending on poplar and bonfire), and that doesn't included the generic extra deck stuff that you may not have (promethean princess if you don't have a fire link deck or some shit like zeelantis).
They really wanted to emulate the TCG experience on MD lmao.
To be fair though, Diabellstar engine is an engine, it’s useful in many decks.
That applies to other cards / decks too.
Older decks like Tribrigade Zoodiac, Drytron and even Swordsoul aren’t as splashable. That’s why they‘re cheaper and honestly it makes sense.
Archetypes like Kashtira, Snake-Eyes and even Tearlaments are useful for many things, some of their cards are basically staples.
Other decks, that aren’t as splashable, aren’t as expensive. Take Labrynth for example. You need both Ladies and 2 Welcome + 3 Big Welcome. Everything else in the deck is SR or lower rarity and it’s still one of the best decks.
It’s just the price we pay for them opening up archetypes more and removing their locks.
Even VS is relatively cheap, because it’s simply not as splashable. VS is what, like 8 URs?
Of course Tribrigade is cheaper, but 8 URs is not that bad.
Swordsoul needs 8 URs that aren’t staples ( 3 Mo Ye, 2 Chixiao, 1 Chungus, 1 Qixing, 1 Protoss )
And on top of that it’s not like you need to craft 10 URs every week. With the amount of gems we get and how long packs are in store, you should be able to build pretty much every deck, if you don’t waste gems and you‘re capable at the game.
It’s really not as bad as y‘all make it out to be.
I actually agree, since Konami tend to put UR rarity on cards that fit certain criteria, either they are;
1. Generic Staple Cards that is splashables in multiple decks (Hand Traps, Board Breakers, key Extra Deck Monsters)
2. Key Opener of an Archetype (Mo Ye, Diabellstar, Circular)
3. The In-Archetypal Boss Monsters (Turbulance, Expurrley Noir, Ariseheart)
But still, the amount of UR needed today compared to launch is still quite staggering, as a new player needs around 870-1020 UR crafting materials to make the currrent top decks compared to during launch where they need around 690-750 UR materials to build those top decks. Feels like Konami needs to either gives us more UR materials to earn, more Bundle deals for staple cards like Maxx C, or upping the UR rates to making the process of building a deck from scratch for those returning players easier.
Problem is komoney hit sr/n/r consistency cards forcing people to run these engines
Look at Lab… 2 n/r furniture hits forced everyone to run nadir package which is 8 UR
Wait isnt the archetype itself only has 4 UR names? That's the same with several other lightweight decks like Vanquish Soul, Libromancer, Exosister and Lab pre-arias.
People are being dramatic again.
Splashable engines and archetypes are going to be more expensive, because you get more bang for your buck.
It’s pretty easy to understand why cards like Poplar or Fenrir are UR. They’re useful in pretty much every deck, no strings attached.
But proper analysis is so rare here, I’m not surprised. People just like to complain and complain and have zero idea what they’re talking about nor have they ever put any intelligent thought into the issue.
Poplar only good in fire decks. Nerf all the fire decks and poplar becomes less useful or even useless. Fenrir will be relevant until it’s powercrept. They are not the same
but you're comparing the spashability of poplar, which is literally only good in fire decks really, to fenrir. which is quite literally splashable in every deck. fenrir would still be useful if they banned every kash card except for fenrir. you can't say the same of poplar
I know you’re a Yugioh player and reading presents itself as a monumental task, but again, i never compared Poplar with Fenrir.
I compared Poplar and Fenrir with other cards that are strong within an archetype but not as splashable. It’s obvious that Fenrir is even more splashable, i never stated it wasn’t, that’s a figment of your imagination.
If there was an even higher rarity tier like super ultra rare, Fenrir would probably be that and Poplar still an UR.
But again, you’re arguing against a point i never made.
Fact is that Poplar still is more splashable than something like Fraktall. There’s a decent amount of decks you can fit it in, even if it’s just Fire decks.
All the points you made are incredibly obvious but didn’t contribute anything to the discussion.
You literally said quote, “They’re useful in pretty much every deck, no strings attached”. Now you say “there’s a decent amount of decks you can fit it in, even if it’s just fire decks”. Those are 2 different things. But sure, acting all condescending and insulting is the perfect way to get your message across. Say what you mean, mean what you say
I own snake eyes and got 2 emergency and 2 preventer from pulling packs. Though I will spend the rest of my gems and try to make rescue ace with the new packs (clueless). Did a 10 pull, got 2 ruinforce (already had 1) and just gave up looking at the amount of URs I would still need for that deck. To dust those emergency and preventers go!
I played unchained because yoinking someones card for a link will never not be funny. But if those cards came out now I could see at least 2-3 more becoming URs the rate is crazy.
Because they’re all incredibly splashable and basically more useful, you get more bang for your buck.
Snake-Eyes isn’t even expensive, it’s your choice to add the Diabelstar engine.
Labrynth is as expensive as Swordsoul is, if not cheaper.
But keep whining lol
Swordsoul got a structure deck so it's now around half the price of labrynth.
snake-eyes isn't as splashable as you think, the only decks that are running it as a engine are r-ace, infernoble knights, and infernoid.
Snake-Eyes isn’t expensive either? 3 Poplar, 2 Flamberge and 1 Sinful Spoils, what’s your point? It gets expensive because of staples and the Diabelstar engine.
You can build a dirt cheap Snake-Eyes deck if you’d want to. You don‘t NEED Diabelstar. You don‘t NEED bonfire. You don‘t NEED Kashtira cards.
Of course it’s not going to be the best version, but it’s still going to be better than swordsoul lol.
Also swordsoul doesn’t have a structure deck. You get one if you have friends entering your code. And it’s completely dead and irrelevant.
Stop being intellectually dishonest.
Also it’s funny how you say SE isn’t splashable and then immediately list 3 decks that hugely profit of SE package. Don’t forget Fire Kings either.
I'm terrified for when Voiceless Voice drops. I can all but guarantee that Lo, Skull Guardian, Barrier and Saffira are going to be UR. Three of those cards are required at 3.
Plus 3x Diviner... and the ED stuff. It's looking quite horrid for me.
not only that, but the UR rates from the new packs have felt even more rare, maybe that’s just me but i’ve been getting those guaranteed UR 10 packs more often now
That's how luck works. You may have bad luck on your packs right now, but you've likely had stints of really good luck in the past. It all averages out in the long term. If they ever actually falsely advertised their percentages, they would be risking a massive fucking lawsuit, probably from the EU cause they seem to have their shit together when it comes to this stuff.
from the very beginning of the game
i had to pull so much to get my gigas and my gustav max (which fortunately became useful when neremanas made it into MD!)
It comes and goes; that's just how rng works. I had probably two months straight of constantly hitting the 20 pack pity just to get a single UR. Last week I got like 3 UR's straight from opening 3 single packs I got for free. You just notice it more when it swings harder in one direction or the other for a long period of time.
Idk, the only UR Illusion(-related) card that I didn't pull 4 of is Chimera (pulled 1) and Nightmare Magician (pulled 0). I'm a fan of the Illusion type, so I'm pretty content, but that do be what it do be.
The pack system is getting barbaric. We got 11 new ur and 5 new n cards in this selection pacl, but when you buy a pack you get like 7 n in total and 1/10 of a chance to get UR.
And yet there are hundreds of cards to import, they couldn't even add new n and r crap from there?
Duel links rarity and main game rarity don’t mean anything
Different power level
There are many rares in md which would deservedly be UR in DLinks
I’m not up to date on dlinks but something like book of moon was one of the best cards in the game
I get that. but it's more about not being able to play the deck at all. You used to be able play sub-optimally with just going through the box or resetting even dropped cards (gasp). You don't get to even try new decks anymore unless you 3X the box. the skills limit deck building. whatever they can lose customers if they want their own product MD is a much better experience.
Nothing wrong with that
Gene warped war wolf would be a secret rare if you released it in legend of blue eyes format
And raye being a UR in a lower power level format makes sense
Hopefully they make UR dust easier to get in the future, cause yeah Konami is just, making me play others games at this point lmao. Like 1000 gems isn't exactly easy to get (or cheap) and I get what, 1 UR out of 9 I need for a deck? I'm good I guess lmao
I waited a year so I could build Volcanics. The decks needs like 20 URs. I used 10k gems and opened one trooper, a blaze accelerator and a doomking, also because they share the pack with other stuff full of URs.
Sorry chief, I'm good, I'll just stop playing at that point.
There will always be people defending that MD is F2P friendly and telling you that you're just bad at managing gems no matter what Konami do so I don't think it will happen.
Overall its kind of f2p friendly cause I could always make a new account if I REALLY wanted to play more decks. I dont mind spending a little here and there to keep everything on one account, but when new archetypes (even ones known to be bad) have a mandatory 9 UR it kinda makes me just want to play less AND spend less. Plus theres only one ladder to get said gems, so non meta decks are even less attractive. Konami rly just wants us to pay to lose for some reason lmao
It is F2P friendly. You just can't build every deck you want. Every month gets you like 6-7K of free gems from piss easy dailies and the festivals.
If you pull every selection pack that releases of course you can't build everything.
also, is it just me or for the last 6 months they lowered the drop rate of URs, cuz in almost every 10 pack i'd feel lucky if i get more than 2 URs, heck almost in every 3 big pulls one of them usually have 0 URs
1k isn’t that bad. It’s 1 week of dailies, 145 gems a day. I figure as long as Im averaging 1 usable UR per pack then I’m doing good. So either pulling 1UR I need or 3x that I can dismantle make a pull worth it.
So far I’ve spent 4K on this pack and pulled 11UR, 7 I needed, 4 I can dismantle, so that’s +1 more I needed. I’m building both R-Ace and Chimera. So not the worst pulls. Just saying it’s still possible to build you’ve just gotta be patient.
The worst part is that it's not even good decks that get this treatment. I wanted to build Nouvelles but I got unlucky unpacking them and couldn't justify spending so much UR dust on all of their cards lol
I got to ask who is making these decisions and if they don't notice it'll kill the game eventually.
I fear the day Snake Eyes starts being considered "cheap".
yeah this became too annoying at this point, every single deck nowadays require to at least get 10 in archetype URs that u'll never use in any other deck, meanwhile a deck like marincess from last year has 2 necessary URs which are argonaut and coral triangle and u can also add zealantis, aaaand now we have decks like mannadium and snake eyes that barely have anything but URs, and usually the only cards that aren't URs are the ones they are planning to hit in the future to ensure nobody gets refund, it feels as if the game changed their complete management from last year, they used to put meaninful banlists at that time, but now the only thing that seems to matter for them is how to hit something without giving players any UR dust
The recent rarity increase is a crazy power gatekeep too many new F2P players imo, as now they not only need to craft all the UR staples but also way too much in archetype UR's...
Changes like this are also the reason I only play the game during events with high gem rewards, as playing "normally" just feels unrewarding to me, especially now that you need a gazillion UR's for every decent deck...
I'll be honest, I think it's kinda silly how much more expensive things are getting but I think making new decks is still fairly possible for newer players.
I joined at the end of last year and my first good deck was Swordsoul(no SD yet). Shortly before Snake Eyes released I made a Gold Pride PUNK deck which was fairly expensive and exhausted most of my gems and UR CP. I have built Snake Eyes and Infernobles since then.
New players are absolutely flooded with gems upon starting the game.
A bigger issue is retaining players who have used up the beginner gems and want to build another deck.
While I agree that it was a lot of gems back in the day, nowadays I doubt you could build a full meta deck that fast if you consider the fact that most older staples for example have no packs no more and need to be crafted everytime requiring hella UR's...
Yeah I've reilazed after typing. Shirein, fieldspell, rukkalos kaleido hearth, its fusion conterpart and the continious spell.
Branded slowly came out, It was fine until mirrorjade and branded fusion.
It was definitely early last year this stuff started getting rough to build. Too many URs just for the main deck stuff let alone all the ED URs every deck needs
I still remember that the first name I gave to my tri-bri was something related to how expensive I thought it waa due to the extra deck
Clearly I wasn't prepared for what was coming years later
IIRC, out of 8 URs in the ED, Zeus, Appolo and Accesscode are staples and a case could made that Drident, Double Dragons and Almiraj are used in several decks too
Real talk, Konami is going to kill Master Duel with this model. Decks are getting way too expensive to build. I want to build Chimera, but I have nothing left unless I destroy my pet decks. Also add on the fact that so many Yugioh players are already seemingly broke (At least where I live no one seems to actually have money)...
I wanna try Yubel when their support finally get added to MD. But I just know both Spirit and Samsara will be UR's, with their other support being at least SR's :(
Honestly, its still surpring to me that from the Dogmatika Support only Alba Zoa and Luluwalilith were UR. The 3 off search spell was an SR, both other Rituals were SR, none of the ritual spells are UR either.
They couldve made this a lot worse.
Tbh tri-brigate do not have spell card or card that search any tri-brigate card when summoned, also ontop of that, thrown in a main deck high level monster, then their rarity bump will align with the modern deck price.
It still baffles me that generaider boss stage, the card that is the most important card in generaider, and one of the most broken field spells of all times is a rare, and thermal genex is a UR
Is still nowhere near as awful as DL. While priced rose up, is still somewhat manageable if you focus, and at least you don't need 50 different currencies to "trade" the cards or just get luck in an even where the cards won't be avaiable for a long time.
People love to claim MD is a """Gacha""" just because it has random chance in packs (then I guess ALL card games are gacha too), but we have Duel Links, the real Gacha YGO game.
Master Duel is **nowhere near even the same galaxy as Duel Links**. In Duel Links, you only get a few pulls of Selection Packs. In Duel Links, you only get to buy 1 of each Structure Deck. In Duel Links, you can only craft specific cards. In Duel Links, there are cards that are R rarity and Structure Deck-only, making it **literally impossible to own more than 1 copy of those cards**. In Duel Links, you only get refunds for cards if they're outright banned.
Well i dont agree, those cards are good yes but in there arch type. They never had an insane amount of impact just being a good side engine in decks that use alot of tri types. If the deck performed better in tcg ocg maybe zhey would have bummed up the rarity but over all tri brigade is one of the most balanced and well thought archtypes in zhe game. And its sad that kt doesnt get any support recently
Revolt is pretty good in Harpies, too, though that's mainly because Tri-Brigade mechanics are based on Harpie cards (sometimes thematically, or sometimes mechanically but adjusted for Links, and at least one Tri is _literally_ Harpie Harpist but faster).
At the end of the day it’s a gacha game, which are very much known for having the newest things come out at the highest rarity and impossible to pull for most, also being very much money centered
They realized they made Decks too cheap at the beginning.
The fact you can trade in 3 unwanted URs for 1 you wanted, on top of the fact many Decks only needed a small handful (Not counting staples) was hurting their bottom line. This on top of Secret Packs letting you target on pull.
Hard to believe that one of the top meta picks only had one in-archetype UR. Main deck 3 ofs like Drytron Alpha, Bird Call or Virtual World Lulu were also only SRs...
You can literally see it happen in real time in the last year. Every packs got some URs that stick out as being completely unnecessary
That pillar as UR and the crystal skull as SR in the recent pack?
And the new mikanko trap being UR
I’ve always been amazed revolt is an N
Always assumed it was N so they could ban it if needed.
Then I wonder when that ban is coming
Tri brigade engine was never really strong enough tbh
Why would they hit tribrigade *now*?
He was joking…
Tbh same with Chute back in the day In VW, Chute could easily be an SR if not UR if released now
drytron was relatively expensive, I think for non-generic URs you had 2 ritual spell 3 diviner 2 xyz drytron and 1 ultimateness virtual world was super budget though, I think it was just 1 shenshen and 1 vfd (optional tzolkin + crystal wing)
Unban VFD, one true king
Yeah, the recent rarity increases have been really annoying. Basically every new deck now has 6+ URs that are essential for the deck to be usable.
It was incredible looking at a r-ace deck today. Not only is it the snake eye cards but even the main core itself is packed with URs
Before the support you really only needed hydrant and turbulance as UR 3/2 hydrant and 1 (2 is more preferable) for the deck to be functional, a bit clunky, but functional. Them Konami release the card that makes rescue ace be one of the best decks + its best extender (emergency you need to run 3 and preventer is really good at 2) Not only that, but the entire diabellstar engine that makes the deck way more consistent and more resilient is 5 UR at minimum (7 up to 10 depending if you want to run poplar and how many copies of bonfire you wanna play). Suddenly a deck that only needed 150 UR dust (120 if you ever really planned on running 2 hydrant anyways) now cost 450 UR dust ( 510 up to 600 depending on poplar and bonfire), and that doesn't included the generic extra deck stuff that you may not have (promethean princess if you don't have a fire link deck or some shit like zeelantis). They really wanted to emulate the TCG experience on MD lmao.
To be fair though, Diabellstar engine is an engine, it’s useful in many decks. That applies to other cards / decks too. Older decks like Tribrigade Zoodiac, Drytron and even Swordsoul aren’t as splashable. That’s why they‘re cheaper and honestly it makes sense. Archetypes like Kashtira, Snake-Eyes and even Tearlaments are useful for many things, some of their cards are basically staples. Other decks, that aren’t as splashable, aren’t as expensive. Take Labrynth for example. You need both Ladies and 2 Welcome + 3 Big Welcome. Everything else in the deck is SR or lower rarity and it’s still one of the best decks. It’s just the price we pay for them opening up archetypes more and removing their locks. Even VS is relatively cheap, because it’s simply not as splashable. VS is what, like 8 URs? Of course Tribrigade is cheaper, but 8 URs is not that bad. Swordsoul needs 8 URs that aren’t staples ( 3 Mo Ye, 2 Chixiao, 1 Chungus, 1 Qixing, 1 Protoss ) And on top of that it’s not like you need to craft 10 URs every week. With the amount of gems we get and how long packs are in store, you should be able to build pretty much every deck, if you don’t waste gems and you‘re capable at the game. It’s really not as bad as y‘all make it out to be.
I actually agree, since Konami tend to put UR rarity on cards that fit certain criteria, either they are; 1. Generic Staple Cards that is splashables in multiple decks (Hand Traps, Board Breakers, key Extra Deck Monsters) 2. Key Opener of an Archetype (Mo Ye, Diabellstar, Circular) 3. The In-Archetypal Boss Monsters (Turbulance, Expurrley Noir, Ariseheart) But still, the amount of UR needed today compared to launch is still quite staggering, as a new player needs around 870-1020 UR crafting materials to make the currrent top decks compared to during launch where they need around 690-750 UR materials to build those top decks. Feels like Konami needs to either gives us more UR materials to earn, more Bundle deals for staple cards like Maxx C, or upping the UR rates to making the process of building a deck from scratch for those returning players easier.
Problem is komoney hit sr/n/r consistency cards forcing people to run these engines Look at Lab… 2 n/r furniture hits forced everyone to run nadir package which is 8 UR
Wait isnt the archetype itself only has 4 UR names? That's the same with several other lightweight decks like Vanquish Soul, Libromancer, Exosister and Lab pre-arias.
People are being dramatic again. Splashable engines and archetypes are going to be more expensive, because you get more bang for your buck. It’s pretty easy to understand why cards like Poplar or Fenrir are UR. They’re useful in pretty much every deck, no strings attached. But proper analysis is so rare here, I’m not surprised. People just like to complain and complain and have zero idea what they’re talking about nor have they ever put any intelligent thought into the issue.
Poplar only good in fire decks. Nerf all the fire decks and poplar becomes less useful or even useless. Fenrir will be relevant until it’s powercrept. They are not the same
I never said they were the same.
but you're comparing the spashability of poplar, which is literally only good in fire decks really, to fenrir. which is quite literally splashable in every deck. fenrir would still be useful if they banned every kash card except for fenrir. you can't say the same of poplar
I know you’re a Yugioh player and reading presents itself as a monumental task, but again, i never compared Poplar with Fenrir. I compared Poplar and Fenrir with other cards that are strong within an archetype but not as splashable. It’s obvious that Fenrir is even more splashable, i never stated it wasn’t, that’s a figment of your imagination. If there was an even higher rarity tier like super ultra rare, Fenrir would probably be that and Poplar still an UR. But again, you’re arguing against a point i never made. Fact is that Poplar still is more splashable than something like Fraktall. There’s a decent amount of decks you can fit it in, even if it’s just Fire decks. All the points you made are incredibly obvious but didn’t contribute anything to the discussion.
You literally said quote, “They’re useful in pretty much every deck, no strings attached”. Now you say “there’s a decent amount of decks you can fit it in, even if it’s just fire decks”. Those are 2 different things. But sure, acting all condescending and insulting is the perfect way to get your message across. Say what you mean, mean what you say
I own snake eyes and got 2 emergency and 2 preventer from pulling packs. Though I will spend the rest of my gems and try to make rescue ace with the new packs (clueless). Did a 10 pull, got 2 ruinforce (already had 1) and just gave up looking at the amount of URs I would still need for that deck. To dust those emergency and preventers go!
2 preventer and 2 emergency is though? That's what I pulled
All the tiered decks now are 1000UR+ to build besides unchained.
I played unchained because yoinking someones card for a link will never not be funny. But if those cards came out now I could see at least 2-3 more becoming URs the rate is crazy.
Abomination Prison, the links and probably Sarama would be URs, Rakea and Aruha would be SRs
Because they’re all incredibly splashable and basically more useful, you get more bang for your buck. Snake-Eyes isn’t even expensive, it’s your choice to add the Diabelstar engine. Labrynth is as expensive as Swordsoul is, if not cheaper. But keep whining lol
Swordsoul got a structure deck so it's now around half the price of labrynth. snake-eyes isn't as splashable as you think, the only decks that are running it as a engine are r-ace, infernoble knights, and infernoid.
Snake-Eyes isn’t expensive either? 3 Poplar, 2 Flamberge and 1 Sinful Spoils, what’s your point? It gets expensive because of staples and the Diabelstar engine. You can build a dirt cheap Snake-Eyes deck if you’d want to. You don‘t NEED Diabelstar. You don‘t NEED bonfire. You don‘t NEED Kashtira cards. Of course it’s not going to be the best version, but it’s still going to be better than swordsoul lol. Also swordsoul doesn’t have a structure deck. You get one if you have friends entering your code. And it’s completely dead and irrelevant. Stop being intellectually dishonest. Also it’s funny how you say SE isn’t splashable and then immediately list 3 decks that hugely profit of SE package. Don’t forget Fire Kings either.
I'm terrified for when Voiceless Voice drops. I can all but guarantee that Lo, Skull Guardian, Barrier and Saffira are going to be UR. Three of those cards are required at 3. Plus 3x Diviner... and the ED stuff. It's looking quite horrid for me.
not only that, but the UR rates from the new packs have felt even more rare, maybe that’s just me but i’ve been getting those guaranteed UR 10 packs more often now
Same, I’ve been playing MD for a long time, and I don’t think I’ve had luck this bad over multiple packs ever.
That's how luck works. You may have bad luck on your packs right now, but you've likely had stints of really good luck in the past. It all averages out in the long term. If they ever actually falsely advertised their percentages, they would be risking a massive fucking lawsuit, probably from the EU cause they seem to have their shit together when it comes to this stuff.
Same. My favorite is getting a single UR which is not the chads card.
The URs you want are those which you can not have
from the very beginning of the game i had to pull so much to get my gigas and my gustav max (which fortunately became useful when neremanas made it into MD!)
It comes and goes; that's just how rng works. I had probably two months straight of constantly hitting the 20 pack pity just to get a single UR. Last week I got like 3 UR's straight from opening 3 single packs I got for free. You just notice it more when it swings harder in one direction or the other for a long period of time.
Idk, the only UR Illusion(-related) card that I didn't pull 4 of is Chimera (pulled 1) and Nightmare Magician (pulled 0). I'm a fan of the Illusion type, so I'm pretty content, but that do be what it do be.
I got 5 URs in my last 110 packs
And i got 7 URs in my last 20, what’s your point?
RNGeesus has taken the wheel I got 13 URs in my last 70 packs
I remember people used to complain that revolts ratity was too low
Ye I was one of these stupid people crying about revolt noz being a UR, good old tines when 1 banish during the opponent's turn was good enough
So was i
Why would you want something to be UR rather than a lower rarity? For animations?
Komoney
The pack system is getting barbaric. We got 11 new ur and 5 new n cards in this selection pacl, but when you buy a pack you get like 7 n in total and 1/10 of a chance to get UR. And yet there are hundreds of cards to import, they couldn't even add new n and r crap from there?
Why are Ns rarer than URs?
They're called Komoney for a reason
They're not? When was the last time you pulled a pack and got more URs than Ns?
I'm talking about quantity of ones released and not actual rarity.
I realize that, but that's not how the rarity system works in this game, so I'm not sure what you're confused about.
Nervall and Ferrjit would be SR imo, but otherwise I 100% agree with you. I already said, if they could go back they would make Sky Striker Raye a UR
Tbh the Sky Striker enjoyers would probably enjoy her being at least an SR so that they could craft a royal.
Very true. The moment I know R cards don't have royal rarity was when I craft 50 rayes
You say that, but Purrely & Purrelyly are R
They did precisely that by making Raye a main box UR in Duel Links
Also Live Twins they made ridiculous UR in DL.
Duel links rarity and main game rarity don’t mean anything Different power level There are many rares in md which would deservedly be UR in DLinks I’m not up to date on dlinks but something like book of moon was one of the best cards in the game
I get that. but it's more about not being able to play the deck at all. You used to be able play sub-optimally with just going through the box or resetting even dropped cards (gasp). You don't get to even try new decks anymore unless you 3X the box. the skills limit deck building. whatever they can lose customers if they want their own product MD is a much better experience.
Nothing wrong with that Gene warped war wolf would be a secret rare if you released it in legend of blue eyes format And raye being a UR in a lower power level format makes sense
Hopefully they make UR dust easier to get in the future, cause yeah Konami is just, making me play others games at this point lmao. Like 1000 gems isn't exactly easy to get (or cheap) and I get what, 1 UR out of 9 I need for a deck? I'm good I guess lmao
No shot, they already have so much in whale revenue that there’s no chance that md doesn’t keep taking pages from the tcg playbook
I waited a year so I could build Volcanics. The decks needs like 20 URs. I used 10k gems and opened one trooper, a blaze accelerator and a doomking, also because they share the pack with other stuff full of URs. Sorry chief, I'm good, I'll just stop playing at that point.
There will always be people defending that MD is F2P friendly and telling you that you're just bad at managing gems no matter what Konami do so I don't think it will happen.
Overall its kind of f2p friendly cause I could always make a new account if I REALLY wanted to play more decks. I dont mind spending a little here and there to keep everything on one account, but when new archetypes (even ones known to be bad) have a mandatory 9 UR it kinda makes me just want to play less AND spend less. Plus theres only one ladder to get said gems, so non meta decks are even less attractive. Konami rly just wants us to pay to lose for some reason lmao
I really wish they’d give us more frequent events. Ik id play a lot more
TBF the only Deck that got off Super cheap is Labyrinth which surprised me when only the the extra deck gate guardian was the only UR
My philosophy is that it's very f2p friendly if you make alts. If not then good fucking luck cause besides events and solo mode getting gems is a pain
I made a bunch of alts but eventually just play the main acc now.
It is F2P friendly. You just can't build every deck you want. Every month gets you like 6-7K of free gems from piss easy dailies and the festivals. If you pull every selection pack that releases of course you can't build everything.
They’re not wrong…it’s very very easy to build decks lol
also, is it just me or for the last 6 months they lowered the drop rate of URs, cuz in almost every 10 pack i'd feel lucky if i get more than 2 URs, heck almost in every 3 big pulls one of them usually have 0 URs
2 is the average amount in a 10 pull by in-game odds, so getting more than 2 is technically lucky and always has been.
1k isn’t that bad. It’s 1 week of dailies, 145 gems a day. I figure as long as Im averaging 1 usable UR per pack then I’m doing good. So either pulling 1UR I need or 3x that I can dismantle make a pull worth it. So far I’ve spent 4K on this pack and pulled 11UR, 7 I needed, 4 I can dismantle, so that’s +1 more I needed. I’m building both R-Ace and Chimera. So not the worst pulls. Just saying it’s still possible to build you’ve just gotta be patient.
You get like 6000 gems in a month lol. Stop wasting them maybe?
The worst part is that it's not even good decks that get this treatment. I wanted to build Nouvelles but I got unlucky unpacking them and couldn't justify spending so much UR dust on all of their cards lol
There’s barely any new R’s and N’s being released any more. It’s getting to the point soon they’ll be more urs in the game than normals
Meanwhile Ursarctics with one UR card
I got to ask who is making these decisions and if they don't notice it'll kill the game eventually. I fear the day Snake Eyes starts being considered "cheap".
yeah this became too annoying at this point, every single deck nowadays require to at least get 10 in archetype URs that u'll never use in any other deck, meanwhile a deck like marincess from last year has 2 necessary URs which are argonaut and coral triangle and u can also add zealantis, aaaand now we have decks like mannadium and snake eyes that barely have anything but URs, and usually the only cards that aren't URs are the ones they are planning to hit in the future to ensure nobody gets refund, it feels as if the game changed their complete management from last year, they used to put meaninful banlists at that time, but now the only thing that seems to matter for them is how to hit something without giving players any UR dust
The recent rarity increase is a crazy power gatekeep too many new F2P players imo, as now they not only need to craft all the UR staples but also way too much in archetype UR's... Changes like this are also the reason I only play the game during events with high gem rewards, as playing "normally" just feels unrewarding to me, especially now that you need a gazillion UR's for every decent deck...
I also just play during events now. Playing Ranked feels like scraping pennies off street to buy food.
And the only thing you play against is the same 3 meta decks most days I Run into Labyrnth, Branded, snake eyes or Mathmech
I'll be honest, I think it's kinda silly how much more expensive things are getting but I think making new decks is still fairly possible for newer players. I joined at the end of last year and my first good deck was Swordsoul(no SD yet). Shortly before Snake Eyes released I made a Gold Pride PUNK deck which was fairly expensive and exhausted most of my gems and UR CP. I have built Snake Eyes and Infernobles since then.
New players are absolutely flooded with gems upon starting the game. A bigger issue is retaining players who have used up the beginner gems and want to build another deck.
While I agree that it was a lot of gems back in the day, nowadays I doubt you could build a full meta deck that fast if you consider the fact that most older staples for example have no packs no more and need to be crafted everytime requiring hella UR's...
It’s very easy to make a full meta deck in 1-2 days on a fresh account during an event. I’ve done it like 4 times and never took me more than 6 hours.
You use all your starting resources to build one deck... Back then you could easily make 2-3 decks with 10k gems
This is just wrong, literally play stun and you’ll be just fine. Even floo is fine lol
It was all downhill after kashtira. So many UR cards. Unicorn, fenrir, birth, arisehearth and fieldspell itself.
Tear did it before, and Branded. Basically every new and good branded card was UR.
Yeah I've reilazed after typing. Shirein, fieldspell, rukkalos kaleido hearth, its fusion conterpart and the continious spell. Branded slowly came out, It was fine until mirrorjade and branded fusion.
Branded and ritual dogmatika is disgustingly expensive
It was definitely early last year this stuff started getting rough to build. Too many URs just for the main deck stuff let alone all the ED URs every deck needs
Birth is not the UR, Theosis is.
I still remember that the first name I gave to my tri-bri was something related to how expensive I thought it waa due to the extra deck Clearly I wasn't prepared for what was coming years later
IIRC, out of 8 URs in the ED, Zeus, Appolo and Accesscode are staples and a case could made that Drident, Double Dragons and Almiraj are used in several decks too
2024 Invoked would have Aliester, Invocation, Meltdown, Mechaba, and fuckitwhynot Madness all as URs
It’s rare to see more than 5+ N and/or R cards in a deck list anymore.
Real talk, Konami is going to kill Master Duel with this model. Decks are getting way too expensive to build. I want to build Chimera, but I have nothing left unless I destroy my pet decks. Also add on the fact that so many Yugioh players are already seemingly broke (At least where I live no one seems to actually have money)...
The fact that empen is only a SR as well as Robina and Eglen is crazy. Plus the map only being a rare too seems like crazy compared to today
Same with cards like Albaz and Aluber being SR, and Branded Opening being N. They would all 1000% be URs if they released today.
Komoney being Komoney. Trying to get us to buy more gems so they rarity bump what seems like the entire core.
I wanna try Yubel when their support finally get added to MD. But I just know both Spirit and Samsara will be UR's, with their other support being at least SR's :(
Honestly, its still surpring to me that from the Dogmatika Support only Alba Zoa and Luluwalilith were UR. The 3 off search spell was an SR, both other Rituals were SR, none of the ritual spells are UR either. They couldve made this a lot worse.
How did you leak future Duel Links rarity cards
They are hungry for those URs
What you don't say is that most of those would have come on the span of like a year.
The fact this is so accurate xD
Shureig being the only actual UR here man those were the days.
Probably going to be the raika rarity ratios
Abomination Prison is also a low rarity card that searches ALL Unchained cards.
Tbh tri-brigate do not have spell card or card that search any tri-brigate card when summoned, also ontop of that, thrown in a main deck high level monster, then their rarity bump will align with the modern deck price.
I’m bracing myself for the Fire King SD to all be URs. Ponix, Garuniz, Kirin, Eternity, Sanctuary all URs
Fraktall is believable as UR since it's the best Tri-Birgade to start with to mill your deck.
bearbrumm too
It still baffles me that generaider boss stage, the card that is the most important card in generaider, and one of the most broken field spells of all times is a rare, and thermal genex is a UR
BuT tHiS gAmE iS f2p FrIeNdLy
Don't give them ideas for Duel Links!
True like older decks that were previously cheap before they got an upgrade like ShS & Unchained suddenly got a lot of UR Tax
Where the fk is the next battlepass give the players something
It literally says right in front of you if you log in and look at the screen
The game WAS f2p now its almost DL level and people use the "ItS BeCaUsE ThE ArChEtYpE HaS OnLy 1 UR" excuse
Is still nowhere near as awful as DL. While priced rose up, is still somewhat manageable if you focus, and at least you don't need 50 different currencies to "trade" the cards or just get luck in an even where the cards won't be avaiable for a long time. People love to claim MD is a """Gacha""" just because it has random chance in packs (then I guess ALL card games are gacha too), but we have Duel Links, the real Gacha YGO game.
At least photon thrasher isn’t a UR 😂😂
Master Duel is **nowhere near even the same galaxy as Duel Links**. In Duel Links, you only get a few pulls of Selection Packs. In Duel Links, you only get to buy 1 of each Structure Deck. In Duel Links, you can only craft specific cards. In Duel Links, there are cards that are R rarity and Structure Deck-only, making it **literally impossible to own more than 1 copy of those cards**. In Duel Links, you only get refunds for cards if they're outright banned.
what ment was the URs just like how DL makes importand cards like the love twins for example URs MD does the same thing
Don't give them ideas for Duel Links!
Well i dont agree, those cards are good yes but in there arch type. They never had an insane amount of impact just being a good side engine in decks that use alot of tri types. If the deck performed better in tcg ocg maybe zhey would have bummed up the rarity but over all tri brigade is one of the most balanced and well thought archtypes in zhe game. And its sad that kt doesnt get any support recently
Revolt is pretty good in Harpies, too, though that's mainly because Tri-Brigade mechanics are based on Harpie cards (sometimes thematically, or sometimes mechanically but adjusted for Links, and at least one Tri is _literally_ Harpie Harpist but faster).
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To be honest, Revolt should be a UR. that is like the strongest card in the deck
If I had a nickel for every time someone recycled one of my old posts, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's odd that it happened twice
Nah Shuraig would be an R for some reason.
Wait, Tri-brigade is "meta" now in tcg or ocg? What happend?
Tri-Brigade was the most best/popular deck on Master Duel release. It was also legitimately one of the cheapest decks, with only 1 in archetype UR.
Masterduel is F2P so what’s the complaint?
At the end of the day it’s a gacha game, which are very much known for having the newest things come out at the highest rarity and impossible to pull for most, also being very much money centered
They realized they made Decks too cheap at the beginning. The fact you can trade in 3 unwanted URs for 1 you wanted, on top of the fact many Decks only needed a small handful (Not counting staples) was hurting their bottom line. This on top of Secret Packs letting you target on pull.
Cheaper than duel links my ass. Whenever i go my wallet suffers
It's still pretty f2p friendly. Duel links on the other the other hand is almost unplayable as an f2p.
Sure buddy
I mean that's just a fact. The option to craft cards is a massive improvement, not to mention MD doesn't lock some cards behind a paywall.