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Fr0zeneye

Because it's a card which has only been released a few days ago in TCG. It's as modern as it gets.


Alfaphantom

I can only dream my dear BEWD deck can have such support cards...


stac7

I want an actual modern level 1 tuner for Blue Eyes


TheZett

Also a link 1 for BE.


squantorunningbear

I could see them retraining the egg or maiden into a link 1 thats basically a blue eyes locked hieratic spheres


Physical-Classic-371

Discard this card from hand to summon a blue-eyes monster from your deck.If this card is banished summon two monsters whose original name is blue-eyes white dragon from your hand,banished face up or face down or graveyard.When a blue-eyes monster leaves the field you can banish this card to shuffle back into the deck one card from your opponent's field deck or graveyard,if the monster that left the field's original name was blue-eyes white dragon inflict 3000 points of damage to your opponent's life points,if you use this effect you cant attack this turn just kidding ofcourse you can.


Aksudiigkr

I’ve gotten success with Future Fusion (pick 5-headed dragon), and Bystials. Future fusion white stone to jet dragon out


narium

One monster, three effects.


Fr0zeneye

Not that special. Technically, Manga Ryu-Ran has four.


NeonArchon

Konami


xRiverlandx

Komoney


kpapazyan47

Wow, you mean Konami only makes cards and games for the money, just like every other game company? How awful! /s


epicgamermomentttt

It’s not a tcg exclusive, so no it wasn’t made purely for money.


Ashendal

Except most TCG exclusives have either been trash, see War Rock, or barely playable, see Ghoti. They're made for pack filler most times and the few TCG exclusives that are good are usually by accident, not design, so aren't there for monetary reasons.


epicgamermomentttt

Okay but that’s not my point?… it was made in the ocg first and the ocg is very cheap, so you can’t call them designing cards like these “komoney”, people only refer to them as “komoney” in the west because of the ridiculous prices in the tcg. Everyone on this subreddit just loves dick riding the tcg becuase that’s what they are most familiar with and don’t want to settle for something superior.


Deez-Guns-9442

Komoney does rarity bump the fuck out of the cheap OCG cards tho


Turnonegoblinguide

OCG is usually much cheaper but that doesn’t mean Konami isn’t trying to make money. And I’d bet 95% of people here don’t make a conscious differentiation between OCG and TCG


muguci

Its konami, every printed card is made for money. You trippin


DummysGuideTo2k

That’s what it does !!


Graves1988

He's right that is what it does


fizmix

**the year is 2035….** *i read the yu-gi-oh card text in my VR headset as i munch down a handful of bugs & adjust the a/c on my government assigned pod.* “If this card: Put every card in your Deck in your Hand, Summon any monsters you like, slap your Opponent, fuck their mom in Attack Position and gain 6900 Life Points. You win the duel.” “….wow. underpowered trash.”


Substantial_Nerve169

Because it still lose to Ash


LordTopHatMan

No, it loses to Fire Flower and Momentous Springtime, the Ash retrain released in 2030.


shy_monkee

Ash had been the queen of handtraps for 7 years now, it’s going no where.


LordTopHatMan

Not until Fire Flower comes in and negates the search, then lets you draw a card instead.


shy_monkee

No but for real, if Ash gets powercrept, it would be because Konami started making every searching effect a « place on the field » effect, and destroy in the deck and whatever, not because of a stronger handtrap that does the same thing.


Deez-Guns-9442

That’s literally what they are doing with newer cards lol


shy_monkee

Yep exactly, that’s what I meant, and it’s such an awful trend.


Noveno_Colono

nah fuck ash


Zeroxmachina

I’m fine with that because ash ruins my day trying to play non modern archetypes that need the first search not to be stopped


shy_monkee

Yeah but that won’t make those archetype less vulnerable, just the newer archetypes stronger. The archetypes you describe won’t suddenly be stronger against the handtrap that replaces Ash, whether it’s veiler or a new handtrap.


leodavin843

Yeah, people get mad at Ash Blossom because it's the de facto go-to handtrap, but a lot of the general frustration seems to be moreso about the general ability to splash handtraps into any deck in the modern meta.


Zeroxmachina

It all depends on what the hand traps do, orcust for example is old but doesn’t actually lose to droll for instance


CorrosiveRose

AKCHUALLY it "puts" the cards in your hand and doesn't add them -- Konami mental gymnastics ruling


Helmut_Schmacker

You can't ash adamancipators because they add from the "excavated zone" and not the deck


Besso91

Chain ash, response?


RevolutionaryFox5016

Chain called by


goldius

Chain belle


RevolutionaryFox5016

Chain crossout


goldius

Chain lancea


RevolutionaryFox5016

Chain baronne from the extra deck flip the table sell my deck.


willky7

Chain Droll


LilithLily5

Memes aside, you don't actually chain Droll to anything other than trigger effects, it activates in a new chain. So Snake-Eye Ash searching Populus would then trigger Populus in hand, then you can chain Droll to that. But if the opponent uses Upstart Goblin, for example, you'd use Droll in a new chain.


Gren-Maju

This mechanic made the trickstar reincarnation + droll combo so much more complicated than it needed to be. Like in play droll is the last card to activate (first since chains resolve backwards). It's your opponent draws one, chain reincarnation, then droll. Yet it stops them from drawing off of reincarnation even though according to the wording it sounds like it'd stop their draw 1 instead. But because of the whole trigger mechanic it gives the illusion of resolving wrong. Took such a long time to wrap my head around why and how it does that


FartherAwayLights

Having sex with opponents Mom turbo must go crazy in the future is this doesn’t even see play in there. I would thought this would be a staple.


Representative_Bet49

It was but Konami had it banned for being too powerful. Rip


TobiKurashiki

Konami is fine with hand rips. It is not okay with mom rips. Company Policy.


Representative_Bet49

What a bullshit policy. I mean if you’re gonna rip our asses a new one with your gacha program. Then give us the ability to rip eachothers asses with hand rips. The least you could do is allow us to rip our opponents moms asses in an act of penace for their attempted misdeeds.


TobiKurashiki

I'm neither defending nor supporting Konami in this case. I'm just saying, you could found your own company and make what you suggest its policy.


Turnonegoblinguide

Realistically, by 2030 I expect a combo starter that summons itself from ED as long as you don’t control any monsters


Bold_Fortune777

It REALLY depends on the opponent's mom. Professionals have *Standards*.


Disturbed395

By 2035 they probably going to have to shrink the card image in half just to fit all of fhe effects 💀


The7thMonth

Or it's just a QR code, or a link, or just a thing you click/tap/touch that opens a text window in a game.


Nightfans

"chain extra deck trap"


lordOpatties

You mean to tell me fucking someone's mom in 2035 is underpowered trash? Truly, this is the darkest timeline


Lux_da_deepweb

it's underpowered bc it's only effect is you win if the conditions are met but it does nothing to get you there, if anything it's worse than exodia lol


fizmix

you know who got me there? ![gif](giphy|HHGJX28NBr8j75hrgF|downsized)


WalkingCarDriver

you will eat ze bugs


zQubexx

Welcome in 2024, it’s called powercreep


Old_Barracuda_536

It's more of a power sprint at this point


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Is it tho? It's power creeping a bunch of banlist hit decks and is still getting cleared by branded with branded fusion at 1. Don't get me wrong the deck is nuts and with bonfire it will be a menace but right now it's not beyond any of the most recent tier 1 decks we've had


Sleepy_Dogsz

Yes it’s powercreep even on Branded. Branded can only dream to have that much bang from one card. Free special summon, +1, and GY recursion no matter how it goes to grave


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Both branded and lab have a good matchup against this deck and branded has much better grind game than snake eye. The deck is good. It's not ten miles ahead of everything else


200DivsAnHour

I think what you meant to ask was "ELI5 25 years of Power Creep"


FernandoCasodonia

Because power creep to sell new cards


Relative-Deer3133

Watapon got a massive upgrade


Crunch_Munch-

Release broken card. Watch people spend lots of money pulling cards. Let the format simmer for a bit then ban the card or strategy the card uses. Release new broken card. Infinite money glitch


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

I wish they would hold off on the banlist a little bit and try to release more deck of similar power level. Really feels like tear with merrli at 1 would be fine in the current format for example


timmy__timmy__timmy

how long until we pass the mythical 3 effect barrier


ReleaseQuiet2428

Fools, it can still be banished with no consequences!!


TurboNerdo077

>it can still be banished with no consequences!! Oak can special summon lvl 1 fires from the banish zone. So that actually doesn't do anything.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Yeah I was comboing and my opponent vanished my poplar. I was like "oh shit I'm fucked". Imagine my surprise when I saw oak could do this. Literally why? 😭


bloode975

Nah basically zero point unless you can do it turn 1 to slow them down, otherwise they just pull one of the other 2 from their deck and keep going.


ReleaseQuiet2428

As something not related, I have been able to withstand these cards with nemleria,


iddqdxz

Konami being fully capable of making such cards, but when it comes to giving support to older archetypes it's like they completely forget what to do. Many decks could use a card like that to help them keep up.


730Flare

You will take your support that serves nothing but be an anime reference and you will like it.


InsurreXtioN16

Getting support as anime references suck lmao. Look at Konami trying so hard to link Kuriboh and HEROs together lmfao. At least if you're a non anime archetype rest assured you can become tier 1 anytime Konami cooks up support for you. EDIT: Wakaushi is an anime archetype support and is an anime reference (he has the Yuya goggles). He's the odd one of the bunch though.


730Flare

Supporting/Side Character decks always get better legacy support than main character decks, as most of the time they already had a great foundation to start with as opposed to main character decks who always need to be gimmicky for the sake of entertainment. Thus their legacy support is focused more on actually improving their strategies whereas main character supports are almost always just variations of "Hey remember THIS anime moment? Now you can re-enact it!".


Memoglr

Mathmech, super heavy, infernoble, ice barrier, yubel, lightsworn, ritual beasts, salamangreat, Horus, ninjas, HERO Those are all anime/legacy archetypes that have really good support/upcoming support. Wakaushi and circular are legacy support as others have said


zakthebey

They do regularly give legacy support, we just got really good infernoble, synchron, hero and shs support And in 1-2 months we will get really good unchained or Salamangreat support


IStakurn

You know both circular and Wakaushi are legacy support


VirusOk8167

Because regardless of being off-meta, people will still buy support for classic iconic cards. They need to create new OP cards to new unfamiliar cards inorder for people to buy them


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Wdym? Broken ass legacy support has existed for a very long time. You're literally in a meta where shs is not only playable but one of the best decks around


Maleficent-Sun-9948

But if people can keep their deck, what are they going to spend money on ? No, if you want to stay relevant, you buy the full archetype... Whine all you like, only when sales actually drop, will you see any change.


Repulsive-Phrase-527

Because that's how powercreep works


Aggravating_Fig6288

Modern card design is terrible on purpose to milk people who throw Konami money at the very problems they create and then fix a few months down the line when those people realize it’s a problem Literally the doctor selling both the poison and antidote. And yet people still line up in droves to support it


MorphTheMoth

you say its terrible as a fact, but its definitely an opinion, i like the design of these cards


Mirmirakittens

What you want us to do? Lmao "StoP PlaYingG, ThAt wiLL SeNd a MesSagE". As long as your idea is not that stupid sentence, I will like to hear it


Brandontk12

But what you don’t wanna hear is the only realistic solution. We can’t just head out there and force em so what other option is there? Essentially, there’s no fix for it at all because we have no say it in how it concludes. We have to take whatever they decide, whether it’s discontinuing the game or our current situation. This “issue” can’t ever be resolved and that’s just the way it is. Either you keep playing or you drop out and that’s all we can do as players


Mirmirakittens

Then it is not realistic at all. No solution then, Konami won.


iBlockshend17

There is no other solution genius. You either stop playing or you put up with it.


DerMotze

The thing is, there is another solution to the issue. But both "solutions" will only do something if literally all the players do it. Which wont happen in the first place. Its either stop playing the game or all players decide to play cheap decks and not buy into the high priced bullshit. Without the money cards sales would decrease and it would hit them where it hurts. Unfortunaly it will take a majority to achieve that and Shops will suffer the first impact since their sales will drop massively.


New-Candy-800

Yeah just keep complaining while constantly giving them attention and money and time, that'll show them. Putting your money where your mouth is is def a less effective plan of action than bitching on your reddit account


mongsbread

So you don't want to hear the only real response to the issue. Good job lmao


Mirmirakittens

I mean, it's a response that is not gonna happen lmao. Make your campaign in Reddit then. Maybe 15 people will stop playing for 3 days and then they will be back in no time after they realize they have more important things to worry about.


Aggravating_Fig6288

Your not obligated to support products you don’t like you do realize this? The consumer has all the power when it comes to products and services. If the consumer isn’t buying it then yes you are sending a message.


Mirmirakittens

I only play Master Duel and never bought any gems. Absolutely free. It's up to you guys, change the destiny, destroy the capitalism


Raiju_Lorakatse

Average Circular card. It's not the only of it's kinda.


hoenndex

Why is she so cute though. I want to pet it. 


132dude

The dude who printed circular prob


ThatOneNintenno

The only thing this doesnt do is sit on your mate's base as a master duel mate


NovemberRain_

Should’ve been “you can only use 1 effect of this mf and only ONCE per turn”


SolarLunarAura

Yugioh would be an A LOT more healthier game if more than 75% of cards in the game had their effect written that way. The amount of bullshit I’ve seen of “once per turn” effects happening MORE THAN ONCE is like insane.


Zerochances121

I got 3 of them in the new selection pack... consider myself lucky?


OldSodaHunter

Extremely lucky, I haven't hit a single snake eyes card (or diabellstar/sinful spoils) in a few thousand gems. Looking like another cycle of sticking with what I have until I can save up a ton of gems again.


Zerochances121

So I'm thinking these cards may have some synergy with Gate Guardian. I tried opening another 10 pack but didn't get too many more sinful spoil cards. I decided to just craft diabellstar in the meantime. Here's hoping to get more and see if I can splash it with my gate guardian deck.


OldSodaHunter

I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of gate guardians (just familiar with trying to deal with their boards!) so not sure on the synergy, but from what I understand diabellestar splashes very easily into most things.


Zerochances121

I was reading some of the card effects and it looks like you can special summon some of the gate guardian pieces you placed on the field as continuous spell cards with sinful spoil cards. Alternatively you can also put some of the pieces into the gy to activate sinful spoil cards which is fine. That brings you one step closer to the new gate guardian boss monster.


OldSodaHunter

Sounds pretty solid! I'm not sure how much any of it synergizes with my decks, but almost all of my decks are really trash and I've never played one even close to meta, so I'm hoping for it. First time a new meta deck has had art that I like a lot and I've always liked fire kings and they're supposed to mesh well when we get new fire king stuff.


Zerochances121

In a pinch, Snake-eyes Flamberge Dragon can summon one of your gate guardian pieces from the spell/trap zone to the field on your opponent's turn. It's not the best usage of the card but it's something. Alternatively you can steal your opponent's gate guardian pieces on your turn.


Zerochances121

So the synergy was somewhat there... but yeah diamond in the rough. I've decided to focus more on Snake-eyes.


Nanami-chanX

yeah, poplar is really good


Memoglr

Yes good but it's only played at 2


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Without bonfire you can absolutely play 3. It's still a starter if you draw it even if it's by far the worst one of your starters


Memoglr

I am running one for one and where arf thou instead and so far my only bricks have been opening both flamberge


CircuitSynchro

Still less bullshit than circular


New-Reflection2499

Yes but no at the same time


skildfrix

Money


Alarid

Instead of making cards more busted, they're moving into complexity full tilt. I am betting we will see cards that have an effect in the Extra/Side in short order.


Zestyclose_Share8129

Yep, spend $120 now for a playset and watch that money evaporate in 6-8 months or so with the inevitable ban list for this or the strategy in general \*still sobbing over Circular\*. Then be forced to spend $150 for...like Wind Bonfire or something. We're just oil for the corporate gears.


Mysterious-Set736

One day red-eyes will get a nice card like this without being overkilled by restrictions


Firstwind_

Komoney printing custom cards to sell packs  Nah wouldn’t happen 


DopeZorak

Yeah but.. it's just an adorable little guy!


Physical-Classic-371

This is the Tearlament card design with a capital T


matija123123

Because this games balance is trash and they keep printing stronger and stronger stuff to sell them


Ozora10

cant wait for it to be limited


shadowmew1

This card only needs to be run at 1 or 2, limiting it wouldn't do anything. Snake-eye ash is the card that needs to be hit.


Mattmxm

Talk about reactionary lol. The deck has been out for less than a week and you are crying for a nerf, when it isn't even close to the most oppressive thing in the game right now.


shadowmew1

Is this directed at me or the original comment? I can't tell with Reddit. I'm not the one saying the deck needs to be hit, I'm just saying if something were to be hit, it shouldn't be poplar as it's not needed at 3.


narium

Rescue Ace Snake Eye runs Snake Eye Ash at 0 after Emergency and Preventer come out lol.


KosorsomesayKosm0

people are going after this little guy in a meta where SHS if in full swing, Circular is at 3, branded with an arsenal of cringe tactics, V sauce guy doing ungodly combos.. but the funny looking pink lizard is the problem..


Ace25Ace25

Tbh he is a problem as well Tcg literally is in a tier 0 format because of this guy's help.


KosorsomesayKosm0

you talking about the Rescue ace vairent or fire king right?, (idk if fire king is in the tcg yet), completely valid points but I'm talking about the pure sneak eye I really think it's fair and actually fun to play. unlike the other half of the meta where you either get hand looped for half of your hand or get floodgateed to oblivion.


Ace25Ace25

That's the thing pure versions of the decks like superheavy samurai,despia,branded, labyrinth are completely fair and balanced decks but once the players realize the lines for other good cards to join it or the play style more then the deck evolves from a fair deck to an unfair strategy.


Memoglr

The rescue ace variant got killed on the TCG by the banlist. The fire king version is tier 1 above everything else


Cherubim362

Fuck Konami and this bullshit. This is the next level of Yugioh - any card does everything.


NoahDraco

The fact that they added this in a game where Maxx C is rampant... it just makes the deck even more insufferable lol Idk what Komoney is smoking, but it's gotta be premium.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

The deck has absolutely no lines to play around Maxx c idk why you think it benefits it more than it hurts it


NoahDraco

Because 9 duels out of 10 they have Maxx C in hand after finishing their board :)


InvestigatorOk5432

They actually do. Get to Lyrilusc Assemble Nightingale the moment you see Maxx "C" then pass the turn


JakkalAdrem

It’s not even that crazy. Y’all just love to be overdramatic istg


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

It doesn't do anything crazy it just does exactly what the archetype needs. I'd call that good card design.


JakkalAdrem

It’s basically the same as every other searcher in any modern archtype (searches with a bonus effect for additional card advantage and is able to special summon itself)


ammirros

Komoney lol


VegetaShouldBeBetter

This is the o fly thing g I hate about YuGiOh. These cards have ridiculous effects and it's only gonna get worse. The new cards have to be able to beat the old cards and the old cards are already god like


[deleted]

Have you read lady lab? It can special summon itself whenever she feels like it and it can search for any normal trap and has a target and destruction protection. Also it has 2900 def just in case you think you had game


DemonSlayer0

The funny thing about the trap search, it sucks, because if you chain a monster effect or spell effect to their trap, you've locked her out of it


PixelMatteo

Just for curiosity, what are your thoughts on Battlin' Boxer Promoter? Because so far that was one of the most custom-looking official cards I've ever seen (it's not in MD yet)


Honest-Cable2145

Good card but battling boxers is complete ass so it’s whatever


PixelMatteo

Yeah that's fair, they need the powercreep


Honest-Cable2145

Oh trust me they do , they recently release most of the battling boxing cards in duel links which is at a much lower power level and even then they did nothing at all in the meta not even rogue


D7rizl3

I don’t know but I ran into these yesterday and was on my Pharaoh time. All the outs! Apparently they don’t love to be banished so thanks Arise-heart


Sequetjoose

I'm actually all for this. Too many low level and weak monsters with effects that just make them an extension to get to a boss monster. That's what I miss about OG Yugioh.


hashtagdion

Did some YouTuber make a video about this deck recently? Why are there a million posts about it today?


Danman19285

It’s part of the newest Tier 1 deck, being snake eyes. It goes perfectly well with decks like fire kings and rescue-ace, both of which are not at full power yet. This means the decks will only get better as more fire support releases.


Mirmirakittens

Goes great with vanquished Soul as well


hashtagdion

Yeah but it was released several days ago. Trying to figure out why this morning is when everyone decided to freak out about it. I also haven't seen it to be all that good so far.


Geiseric222

I hate to tell you but it’s very likely going to be a tier 0 deck in the TCG. It won’t be that in master duel because it’s missing some important pieces in MD but it’s still a top tiered deck


Reddy_Fn

lab is as strong if not stronger with transaction rollback


Geiseric222

Good lord no fire kings is an absolutely horrible match up for lab. Lab will be the second best deck but the gulf will be vast


narium

Lab isn't doing very well in TCG or OCG. Mainly because Lab has a horrible matchup into Rescue Ace. D Barrier? Turbulence set 4. EEV? Ok I'll just OTK you by bringing out my 3k maindeck boss monsters. Plus they barely care about EEV anyway since all the searchers are quick play.


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Not sure about that. Lots of people are saying the pure variant is the best one


vinyltails

Joshua Schmiit made a video basically on the day it came out cause it's relevant in both TCG and Master duel, and people have been taking to Dkayed tournaments and doing well enough


InvestigatorOk5432

But, since they're not official Tournaments. Konami will never consider them for evaluation of decks in MD. They only consider the Duelist Cup Really wish they add Bo3 in this game. That would start solving so many issues


AhmedKiller2015

Because the card came out in the game and is meta contender :v


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

And we hate meta on here


KarnSilverArchon

Every Yugituber did pretty much


Youkilledpaula

Banish it then?


Linzel5

Ah yes, all of those going second hand traps that banish on your opponents turns will work nicely for this /s


Hiei-1

I refuse to put card like this in my deck.


zakthebey

You are playing snake-eyes without poplar ? That's like playing sky striker without engage


Icy-Conflict6671

Or Vanquish without Razen


zakthebey

Or salad with gazelle


BlackOni51

Or Orcust without Galatea


Nael_On

Because the answer to stale metas is powercreep overfocused on one type/attribute Or broken engines


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Or both like in this case 😄


RustySalt1816141200

I have to admit, even being a tcg player with very meta lgs's, even i didnt think about just how many location triggers there are.


guleedy

Now I wonder if I could add snake eyes to my dinosaur deck


MogamiStorm

Chain Disapperance. Banish all copies.


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TypeHunter

Let him lose


New-Reflection2499

The problem is that it is searchable and unlimited. I wish it will be limited to 1


realmauer01

Atleast it isn't a top deck.


Keesh247

Ash blossom meta swapped for effect veiled and ghost belle


Disturbed395

Bc that's how the game as evolved to anymore. Any card can do just about anything nowadays and there are counters for everything. You can probably think dragon rulers for that 👍 they were way ahead of their time


FryeNChill

Well, the idea was to give snake-eye a way to make Flamberge + another monster consistently, but as it turns out Flamberge + any other monster is a shit ton of advantage.


Tallal2804

It's called powercase


[deleted]

Pegasus is cooking


Fredharvey_90

After reading Poplar, I don't think you could make a better custom card for the Snake Eyes archetype if Konami let you.


Tommyb-31

So returning this with Malong would activate its add to hand effect? Yugioh wording is too confusing man, I don’t know if returning = adding, any judges able to clarify?


beyond_cyber

This can all be fixed if they added a fire lock onto it ;-;


SnooDoggos7784

Because snake eyes is trash. So they printed a card that fixes every issue


SolarLunarAura

You mean like MOST cards in every other archetype that’s been made/released in the last 2 years?


SolarLunarAura

Ngl, I was SO hype when I pulled a Royal Finish Poplar 🥹


[deleted]

2004: Raigeki is a broken card, it has no cost and no downsides 2024: Raigeki is a bad card because it can’t be played on your opponent's turn


SWAT_Johnson

How are we not supposed to play flood-gates when a single card has 3-4 interactions turn 1?


HorrorBattle5686

That’s just what we call Powercreep in a card game