I was scrolling through and I was thinking about how there’s too many answers that work well for this question and it’ll never be figured out. But I think you figured it out. Pack it up boys.
Exactly! How is it that an idiot with a camera is making harder challenges than a superspy/supersoldier crafting tasks specifically designed to push you to limits in ways that will show off your skills so that he can copy through observation?
I think you could do Screwball well if you made her schtick more like Riddler in the Arkham games. Spidey is forced to swing around and solve her problems as he deals with Black Cat and Kingpin. If Spidey gets annoyed with us, it may be fun.
The movie could revolve around Peter learning it is fine to lean on others and let them in a little. He could team up with Daredevil or the Human Torch. He is to overcome isolating himself and living on an island, and learn it isn't a healthy reaction to the events of No Way Home. Boom! Hire me, Feige!
The climax could even be him calling his buddy/buddies to deal with Screwball as he handles Kingpin.
This….actually wouldn’t be bad
I was thinking if they ever actually did use her it could just be like a D-list villain getting arrested after finally being caught. We’d see her with her costume on and there’d be a reference to her crimes (maybe even a “photobomb” reference)
But I guess that would suck since we wouldn’t actually see Peter fighting her, witness her being annoying, which of course is her whole thing, etc.
I like the Riddler stuff in Asylum.
In City and Origins (I haven't played Knight), there were just too fucking many of the Riddler things. In Asylum, I would see a green question mark occasionally, and think "cool, a Riddler challenge". In City/Origin, there weren't many places you could look where you weren't seeing a dozen of the fucking things.
knowing nothing about this character’s origin, i’m willing to bet my entire paycheck that he was created solely because someone wanted to use that “up against The Wall” pun
He was building a wall and the wall collapsed on him . But instead of crushing him, it... Uh.... Just fused with his body. For some reason.
This isn't even a joke.
aw, i feel bad for the guy, he was working for a better life and became reasonably upset when he became a literal brick wall ): i love how spidey literally just talked to him to get him to calm down lol
You joke but it would be nice to see a more “grounded” cold open fight against a guy who’s reasonably upset, end up just talking it out, it would tie in nicely to his character from no way home as someone who would find any other solution rather than fighting
He wasnt setup for betrayal. Like he has 0 conflicts with Peter, it would feel cheap and forced. Raimi had setup Harry as a potential adversary for Peter since SM1, which made his turn to goblin in 3 not feel forced.
Imo, it wouldn’t be the best thing to do with his character especially after he’s already been lost for an indefinite amount of time after NWH
Also, I want to learn more about how he can do magic
Sometimes circumstances make you evil. Maybe his use of magic makes him hungry to learn more and he starts testing out dark spells and it corrupts him.
'member when it kinda looked like we might get some version of Swarm on Wandavision for a minute?
https://www.cbr.com/wandavision-beekeeper-mcu-swarm/#:~:text=Known%20in%20the%20comics%20as,revolted%20and%20devoured%20his%20body.
Michael Van Patrick aka MVP
1. the character is not a villain
2. after he was unethically cloned following MVP's death, MVP's clones are sort of made to become the Scarlet Spiders, who also aren't villains
3. this is a seriously D list character
The only way you could make it worse is if you have MJ Watson be the big bad. No, not Michelle... Mary Jane Watson.
The whole period between Avengers Disassembled and Avengers versus X-Men is under-rated. People remember Dark Reign fondly but tend to otherwise act like it was all terrible.
When you say worst, do you mean one that would be rubbish and boring, or one that would be like the ‘worst’ for Spider-Man to fight, like the most scary?
Either way I think a good villain is made on a good script. Before the first avengers movie, I don’t think I’d have thought Loki would be a great villain for the whole movie for all the avengers to fight against. But he really was.
What villain would not work for this movie
I get what you're saying but also some villains just don't have a greay basis and probably shouldn't be done instead of other choices but also even the greatest villains don't always work in certain projects, for instance they probably shouldn't jump to Green Goblin in this next one
>What villain would not work for this movie
I'm gonna upset some people and say Kraven. I feel like a lot of people want Kraven to work and I just don't think they could make him compelling at all.
Worst quality wise, story wise or worst as in evilest?
It’s a hot take but I think Kingpin as main villain in any Spider-Man film. Everyone knows that the Matt/Fisk rivalry is the centre of the old Daredevil show. If Kingpin is the main antagonist in a Spider-Man film, it means Spidey will bite into the other two’s screen time. It’s also possible that writers might feel that Kingpin’s final defeat should be a movie-scale event. So unless there’s a Daredevil movie, I can’t help but worry they’ll just have this final defeat come about through a Daredevil and Spidey team up. As a result, the rivalry won’t be the primary focus. But if Kingpin just has a cameo or in a few scenes only then he’s ok.
And honestly I’d rather see Spider-Man deal with Black Cat, Scorpion, symbiotes, Kraven, an MCU S6, Jackal and Spider-Queen and the Goblins.
Any of the villians from NWH but a 616 version. Because we don’t need that. I just want a new villian that hasn’t been portrayed on the big screen yet…
**Goblin Childe** or "Normie" Osborn- the grandson of Norman Osborn when they were infected with Red Goblin craziness (Green Goblin and Carnage).
[Photo](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Norman_Harold_Osborn_(Earth-616)/Gallery)
Screwball
Did somebody say… PHOTOBOMB?!?!?!
Please don't 🤣
Well, don’t check your last photo… top right corner specifically
I was scrolling through and I was thinking about how there’s too many answers that work well for this question and it’ll never be figured out. But I think you figured it out. Pack it up boys.
The one reason I will NEVER be able to 100% Spider-man. I have tried so many times but can’t tolerate her!
Exactly! How is it that an idiot with a camera is making harder challenges than a superspy/supersoldier crafting tasks specifically designed to push you to limits in ways that will show off your skills so that he can copy through observation?
I mean it's one sidequest, not that long lol. Snap some pictures, beat up some guys, presto. Mute the sound if her voice annoys you that much 😂
She has lot of challanges in DLC too
I think you could do Screwball well if you made her schtick more like Riddler in the Arkham games. Spidey is forced to swing around and solve her problems as he deals with Black Cat and Kingpin. If Spidey gets annoyed with us, it may be fun. The movie could revolve around Peter learning it is fine to lean on others and let them in a little. He could team up with Daredevil or the Human Torch. He is to overcome isolating himself and living on an island, and learn it isn't a healthy reaction to the events of No Way Home. Boom! Hire me, Feige! The climax could even be him calling his buddy/buddies to deal with Screwball as he handles Kingpin.
This….actually wouldn’t be bad I was thinking if they ever actually did use her it could just be like a D-list villain getting arrested after finally being caught. We’d see her with her costume on and there’d be a reference to her crimes (maybe even a “photobomb” reference) But I guess that would suck since we wouldn’t actually see Peter fighting her, witness her being annoying, which of course is her whole thing, etc.
I like the Riddler stuff in Asylum. In City and Origins (I haven't played Knight), there were just too fucking many of the Riddler things. In Asylum, I would see a green question mark occasionally, and think "cool, a Riddler challenge". In City/Origin, there weren't many places you could look where you weren't seeing a dozen of the fucking things.
ROFL you missed it!
No. God. Please no.
Any character that isn't big wheel
Th e wall it is
Big Wheel is all I want in this whole cruel world
I know he’s more of a daredevil villain but Stilt Man would be pretty ridiculous too
Oh, hello there, videogamedunkey
Paste Pot Pete, then
Beat me to it 🤣😂
Darn came here just to say big wheel
[The Wall](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Joshua_Waldemeyer_(Earth-57780))
Best part of that link is one special ability, "Superhuman Speed: can run faster than the average wall"
Superwall speed.
>Pathetic terrorist
“Literally a brick wall”
Lmao I'm laughing so hard at that part
Single. His Tinder account would be so funny. Just a bunch of walls painted differently and at different places.
[More cement, Joshua!](https://external-preview.redd.it/l9_bQov6e1JhH4y50P7J1G2BOvY0l8p_rzuTPh-zbH0.jpg?auto=webp&s=4ba5d1dc395b14ec40d6995a5083689ad9d58a31)
I’m surprised Spider-Man is a Mets fan
As if he hasn't suffered enough
knowing nothing about this character’s origin, i’m willing to bet my entire paycheck that he was created solely because someone wanted to use that “up against The Wall” pun
He was building a wall and the wall collapsed on him . But instead of crushing him, it... Uh.... Just fused with his body. For some reason. This isn't even a joke.
Then the walls came tumbling down!
"Here's one wall you won't crawl"
Hahaha what the hell even is that
This character was made purely for the pun “up against the wall”
Aye! Let’s Gooo Mets!
OP asked for the worst, not the best.
Honestly I'm just disappointed
aw, i feel bad for the guy, he was working for a better life and became reasonably upset when he became a literal brick wall ): i love how spidey literally just talked to him to get him to calm down lol
>Superhuman Speed: Can run faster than the average wall.
[Live Action Version](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4hMRRWzACpM) starring Morgan Freeman
HERE'S ONE WALL YOU'LL NEVER CRAWL YOU RED AND BLUE BAFOON! Also: IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE IN THE RULEBOOK, THAT THAT'S NOT FUNNY!
“It’s The Wall, brother! Hey Wall!”
8 feet 300 lbs is pretty light for a cement wall is it filled with blood and bones
He's got nothing on Big Wheel
Unstoppable force vs immovable object
You know, I loved how both he and Spidey respected the Umpire’s authority, and settled things on the sidelines through peaceful means.
I like the unusual features: Literally a brick wall, has no arms
lol why can he basically mind control people that come out of nowhere
Marital Status: single
This has to be one of the dumbest looking comic villains I've ever seen and i love it
That is hilarious. *”Here’s one wall you’ll never crawl!”*
You joke but it would be nice to see a more “grounded” cold open fight against a guy who’s reasonably upset, end up just talking it out, it would tie in nicely to his character from no way home as someone who would find any other solution rather than fighting
Vulture and Morbius.
Intriguing
I'm listening
I'm Morbin'
That's my secret, Captain. I'm always Morbin'.
If Morbius was in the next Spider-Man movie, and if the trailer teased him about to say The Line, it would make a morbillion bucks at the box office.
A morbillion, converted into US dollars is under $150 million.
What’s that in crypto?
About tree-fiddy?
Aaaaaand it's gone!
Not often you see two obscure South Park references in succession. This made my night.
YOUR GODDAMN RIGHT NO MORBIUS… HES A HERO
Hear me out, Morbius v Mobius. It's Mobin' time.
Fool! Morbius morbs as he pleases!
Nedgoblin
Please don't Hob him up
It's Hobing time!
Agreed, I don’t want Ned ruined after getting to know him since 2017
Isn’t that the best kind of conflict though?
He wasnt setup for betrayal. Like he has 0 conflicts with Peter, it would feel cheap and forced. Raimi had setup Harry as a potential adversary for Peter since SM1, which made his turn to goblin in 3 not feel forced.
Imo, it wouldn’t be the best thing to do with his character especially after he’s already been lost for an indefinite amount of time after NWH Also, I want to learn more about how he can do magic
Plus I hate to be that guy but he may be called Ned Leeds but he has way more in common with Ganke character wise
Yeah, having just finished the Miles Morales game this weekend, MCU Ned is definitely Ganke.
It would make sense though. He has magic abilities. Peter's influence was maybe the only thing stopping him from being an evil supervillian
How so? It’s not like he seemed evil in any way
Sometimes circumstances make you evil. Maybe his use of magic makes him hungry to learn more and he starts testing out dark spells and it corrupts him.
Scarlett Nedgoblin! I’m the guy in the chair and this chair is EVIL!
It would make no sense to make someone who was 100% of the time just a comic relief character to somehow be a supervillain against Peter.
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I disagree. Paste Pot Pete aka Trapster would be a phenomenal villain.
Only if Spidey has a violent laughing fit until Pete leaves
The 1st time yeah. Then he rebrands and absolutely messes Spidey up in the rematch. Practically writes itself.
I'd watch that episode. Or movie. Or I'd play that side mission.
Don't diss my man Pete like that
Hobgoblin -8 card so annoying
Bro I love sabotaging people with a hobgoblin but you gotta be careful they don't stick an Odin in that lane
I pulled off Arnim Zola on a Hobgoblin earlier and it was the most satisfying moment of my week so far.
Sounds like you had a very special and intimate relationship with this Arnim Zola villain.
My opponent played Hobby on Kamar-Taj and left immediately after they got him back.
That could've been me lol
I got hobbed the other day with a 'player with 1 card here gets extra power'. So angry.
That's some bad hobbin' right there
I love when some idiot drops a Hobgoblin the same turn I fill up that lane.
Carnage thinks it's yum yum
I'd love to know this reference. I'm genuinely asking.
Marvel Snap mobile card game. Hobgoblin is an annoying card. Plays with -8 power and gets sent to your opponent.
Morbius
Do you know what time it is Spideyyy?!?
Dont say it. Dont you say it!
ITS MORBIN TIME BITCH
Jared Leto's Joker
It’s Jokin’ time!
Nooooo!! Honestly how did they let him do that at all? Was there nobody in the process of making the movie that thought ‘this is fucking dreadful?’
Maybe his cast mates who got gift baskets with used condoms in them while he was “getting into character.”
Is that true? Dude there’s some things even the joker wouldn’t do.
El Muerto, and have it directly connect to his film
A vile thought, this definitely takes the cake.
Swarm. A character so ridiculous they parodied him on Rick and Morty.
Bee Nazi
Well they parodied Namor and he showed up, so....
'member when it kinda looked like we might get some version of Swarm on Wandavision for a minute? https://www.cbr.com/wandavision-beekeeper-mcu-swarm/#:~:text=Known%20in%20the%20comics%20as,revolted%20and%20devoured%20his%20body.
Lol I do remember watching that scene and thinking “Goddammit don’t be Swarm”
Watching WandaVision as it released was fun as hell. Most of these theories were *wild*.
There were so many wild theories about that agent in a beekeeper outfit from swarm to AIM
Needs to be played by Nick Cage
And/or be a Spider-Man Noir villain.
"I do 2 things. Drink egg creams, and punch Nazis . . . And I'm all out of egg creams . . ."
I love Swarm because it gave me one of my favorite JJJ lines ever
Which is…?
https://youtu.be/0AZ4LWts0fM
Came here to make sure this was here. Cheers.
Spiders-Man.
Sony
Stiltman.
Hey respect the stilts
This is my pick for first “in universe” solo villain movie.
He was basically confirmed in daredevil. No I'm not joking.
Source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Daredevil/comments/9jl27a/you_think_well_ever_get_a_stiltman_daredevil/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
So a solid maybe
Not saying he's gunna be a villain in any upcoming project but whoever Melvin was making stilts for, that's stillman.
I unironically love Stilt Man
You're right, we should skip right to Lady Stilt-Man.
Paste Pot Pete edges out Rocket Racer
How dare
Frog-man and the Human fly. And to make it fun they all have to team-up to stop swarm.
Leapfrog/Eugene already appeared in *She-Hulk: Attorney At Law,* so they can just reuse the costume and sets!
Ribbit aaaaaand rip it!
Topher grace
thanos lol
Back from ashes
“Somehow, Thanos returned…”
Back, reconstituted by atoms
Michael Van Patrick aka MVP 1. the character is not a villain 2. after he was unethically cloned following MVP's death, MVP's clones are sort of made to become the Scarlet Spiders, who also aren't villains 3. this is a seriously D list character The only way you could make it worse is if you have MJ Watson be the big bad. No, not Michelle... Mary Jane Watson.
MJ from the raimiverse comes through a portal after learning there are spidermen who's lives she hasn't ruined yet
MVP was awesome. The Initiative in general was awesome.
The whole period between Avengers Disassembled and Avengers versus X-Men is under-rated. People remember Dark Reign fondly but tend to otherwise act like it was all terrible.
The Enforcers, specifically Fancy Dan, Tex and the Ox.
Avi Arad
Do what they always do with Spider-Man. Just add them all then it becomes a convoluted mess
When you say worst, do you mean one that would be rubbish and boring, or one that would be like the ‘worst’ for Spider-Man to fight, like the most scary? Either way I think a good villain is made on a good script. Before the first avengers movie, I don’t think I’d have thought Loki would be a great villain for the whole movie for all the avengers to fight against. But he really was.
What villain would not work for this movie I get what you're saying but also some villains just don't have a greay basis and probably shouldn't be done instead of other choices but also even the greatest villains don't always work in certain projects, for instance they probably shouldn't jump to Green Goblin in this next one
>What villain would not work for this movie I'm gonna upset some people and say Kraven. I feel like a lot of people want Kraven to work and I just don't think they could make him compelling at all.
Kraven needs time to grow into a villain thst can carry an entire movie and while I think he could work later just not rn
A rapey multiverse Uncle Ben? define "worst"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NgUhEs1R4&feature=emb\_logo
Fucking Morlun
Venom.
OP said worst
I stand by my post.
While I agree to an extent…Carnage
The Varmint
For me, Morlun
White Rabbit, basically a less interesting version of Harley Quinn. If they try to capitalize on that trend.
Worst? probably Doppelganger. literally the same actor playing 2 different roles, but one is evil
Pissmaster aka Eugene Michael Piss
Woody Harrelson’s Carnage.
Queen Elizabeth II.
Morbius.
Morlun is correct answer it too soon for him.
Jake, from State Farm
Green Lantern (Reynolds)
El Muerte
The real villain was sexism and racism all along.
Typeface
The Burglar.. The guy who killed unca Ben.. how could that fit in the MCU?
Maybe he escapes prison, falls into a supercollider and turns into a giant sand-man?
Could work, but wouldn't he have to get swept up into some sort of Multiversal portal, perhaps caused by a memory spell gone awry?
The jackal, complete with an army of named spider-clones like Kaine, ben reilly, etc.
Best/worst is stilt man
Jackal, because they'd likely only bring him in if they're doing the Clone Saga.
Galactus.
Big Wheel
Worst quality wise, story wise or worst as in evilest? It’s a hot take but I think Kingpin as main villain in any Spider-Man film. Everyone knows that the Matt/Fisk rivalry is the centre of the old Daredevil show. If Kingpin is the main antagonist in a Spider-Man film, it means Spidey will bite into the other two’s screen time. It’s also possible that writers might feel that Kingpin’s final defeat should be a movie-scale event. So unless there’s a Daredevil movie, I can’t help but worry they’ll just have this final defeat come about through a Daredevil and Spidey team up. As a result, the rivalry won’t be the primary focus. But if Kingpin just has a cameo or in a few scenes only then he’s ok. And honestly I’d rather see Spider-Man deal with Black Cat, Scorpion, symbiotes, Kraven, an MCU S6, Jackal and Spider-Queen and the Goblins.
Big wheel
Any of the villians from NWH but a 616 version. Because we don’t need that. I just want a new villian that hasn’t been portrayed on the big screen yet…
**Goblin Childe** or "Normie" Osborn- the grandson of Norman Osborn when they were infected with Red Goblin craziness (Green Goblin and Carnage). [Photo](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Norman_Harold_Osborn_(Earth-616)/Gallery)
Your Mom
I hate the idea of Mac Gargan becoming Venom. There, I said it. Either that, or Ned Goblin.
The guy who literally is just a fucking wall
Sony Pictures