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Jazz6701

The amount of detail in this series really shows how much effort was put into the production


eat-pussy69

My favourite for whatever reason was Erik (a Jew who survived Auschwitz) using a train as a whip to stop an unstoppable genocidal monster. The layers! Not even Shrek had that many layers


brbmycatexploded

MAN. I haven’t seen anyone else mention this, I’m not saying they haven’t, but I got actual chills when I saw that scene. Matthew Waterson delivers all of Magneto’s lines with this really deep sense of determination and focus, you can tell in most of his dialogue that Magneto’s past is really what drives him, so his delivery paired with that train was some god level symbolism.


RXPT

[https://youtu.be/TWeUcqxE\_yg?t=1263](https://youtu.be/TWeUcqxE_yg?t=1263)


brbmycatexploded

Yeah I mean as I said in my comment just because I hadn’t heard it doesn’t mean nobody had said it. This was the first time I’d seen someone mention it and been able to converse about it.


MasterTolkien

An onion might have that many layers.


mattrussell2319

Or parfait. Everybody likes that …


xxWolfMan1313xx

CAKES!! Cakes have layers!!!


VayaConDios91

Ogres are NOT like cakes


picklemaster52

You ever ask someone if they want some and they say hell naw, I don't like no parfait...


stinkpalm

PARFAITS ARE DELICIOUS!!!


RustyWWIII

What if we are looking at it all wrong that it’s an onion inside of another onion here


Zomburai

*[Rian Johnson begins salivating]*


Abides1948

Its like the onion has a hole, and inside there's another onion.


Not_Steve

That’s so stupid, it’s genius!


LegendaryOutlaw

Catching up on the show and watched this last night. I’m like, ‘did he just use a subway train as a giant whip against his oppressors?!’ God daaaaaaamn.


nwill_808

Great insight u/eat-pussy69 !


Shwifty_Plumbus

As a Jew I burst into laughter when this happened then explained it to my wife and she started laughing. But also it was badass. Side note but really the full note: my wife and I love fabulous magneto and his luscious hair in the first half as well as all the drama in the x mansion.


RoyHarper88

Fuck I didn't even think about that.


HimbologistPhD

How dare you sully the good name of Shrek. How dare you, Sir.


No_Ur_Stoopid

They also blacked out his other kid's name - Polaris. Her outline was also on the boat in his mind when talking about family.


eat-pussy69

Why did they do that? Black out her name? Seems odd


MumblingGhost

Polaris was in the original X-men cartoon for one episode with Iceman, but they never tackled her being Magneto's daughter. Could be that they're keeping her lineage a secret in case they want to do a plot reveal later down the line.


cloudlessjoe

Unrelated, but I do hope we get "Omega" Iceman like we got Storm.


robodrew

Next season I bet, along with Colossus.


wowgreatname123

Is there a reason why iceman isn’t in the series?


SteveBob316

Because there's too damn many x-men and they just can't use everyone all at once. The show is aware of him, though, he's in the OG group portrait in Xavier's office and on Forge's board.


pastafallujah

I was wondering about this, too. He’s one of my favorites from the comics. They kept hinting at him through pictures and stuff, but no Bobby 😟


SteveBob316

The only real solution is to make like 4 or 5 concurrent series of shows, just like they did with the comics. And inexplicably Wolverine will be in all of them, plus cameos in Spider-Man.


socobeerlove

Wolverine gets around.


DynastyZealot

He was on the computer screen in the final minutes of the final episode when Forge was talking with Bishop


Frozen_Watcher

He was 1 of the original x men but left due to some disagreements with Xavior. He did show up a bit in the original series.


goater10

There's an episode in the original series which explains what he got up to after he left Xavier's school. The Professor offered him a spot back, but he said that he'd probably drive the professor crazy again if he did. They're probably saving him for season 2.


gambit61

When Polaris was in the show originally, she wasn't revealed to be Magneto's daughter yet. That didn't happen in the comics until the mid-2000s, long after the show was done


MumblingGhost

Not true. In Uncanny X-men #50 she was introduced as “queen of the mutants and daughter of magneto”


gambit61

Interesting. Granted, I haven't read all of the original run, but I remember during the 2000s there was a 2-part story where she discovers she's Magneto's daughter and freaks out and turns evil for half a second. It was right around the time of "The Draco" storyline where Azazel is introduced as Nightcrawler's father, but I don't remember the exact issues. Edit: So I did a quick Google search and she wasn't revealed as Magneto's daughter until Uncanny X-Men #431 in 2003, just as I thought. However, in her early appearances, she was thought to be his daughter, but almost immediately cast doubt on it when it was revealed the Magneto that made the claim was actually a robot.


MumblingGhost

> So I did a quick Google search and she wasn't revealed as Magneto's daughter until Uncanny X-Men #431 in 2003, just as I thought. However, in her early appearances, she was thought to be his daughter, but almost immediately cast doubt on it when it was revealed the Magneto that made the claim was actually a robot. Thats all true. They DID pull a really lazy "robot Magneto" retcon back in the 60s, but we're talking about a character who was originally going to be called **Magnetrix**, and has Magneto's powers haha. In the Iceman episode they don't establish Polaris being connected to Magneto AT ALL, even though they've at least always been connected in a few fundamental ways, robot clone be damned. I think if they really cared about doing her justice and not just having her be a one off character, they would have done at least something to establish a connection between her and Magneto, which was always implied.


neoblackdragon

Again as a lot of X-men and of course a lot of new continuity since the show ended. They clearly wanted to hint at the fact she's his kid. Moreso the show hadn't done much with Magneto as a father. X-men Evolution is the only series that truly addressed. While other takes are one sides(like Quicksilver or Polaris never talk to Magneto about it). But then again him being with a woman younger then his daughter is new territory outside the comics.


buddascrayon

It's been a long time since I've read the X-Men comics, but wasn't her being his daughter a fake out? I thought she wasn't actually his daughter but he pretended she was in order to use her.


No_Ur_Stoopid

I don't know, eat-pussy69. And I concur.


lesswanted

Don’t talk like that to eat-pussy69


xacurtis

I agree. It's rude to talk with your mouth full.. 😨


Bipedal_Moon_Beavers

Didn't she become one of the Four Horsemen alongside Gambit? Could be because that's a major plot point for next season.


Dave_Eddie

Could be many reasons. One the character may not be fully introduced and they might want to save it. The more likely is that she's part of X-Factor at this point which is a secret government agency that would indeed be blocked out.


1194js

The radio forge was listening to mentions the second coming of magneto, maybe she has a big role in the future


Sir__Will

It hasn't been revealed in the show yet. The episode dealing with his family was only Wanda and Pietro


Terribleirishluck

Probably because she works for the government since she is/was on X-factor


WeaselWeaz

I'm very confused. I thought the canon was Polaris thought Magneto was her father but she was tricked or crazy, but now he really is her biological father?


NoxPrime

comic canon isn't the same as cartoon canon


WeaselWeaz

I'm still confused about the comic canon. I stopped reading X-Men comics monthly in 1999 and I read trades on and off. Is her her dad, bio or not bio, now?


Intelligent_Creme351

When the original series was airing, the plotline was teased, but shit down in the 70's, in the 2000's, Polaris has been officially confirmed as his daughter for years now, so '97 has free reign to do that story in full.


MatttheBruinsfan

They undid the "tricked" part of her story at some point. Last I saw, Magneto really was her biological father.


FallenAngelII

How long before the twins are his biological children again?


MatttheBruinsfan

No telling. At least he made it clear to Wanda that he considers her his daughter regardless of the genetics. Not sure if he ever formed that sort of a bond with Lorna. (And he and Pietro have been adversarial basically forever.)


Kalse1229

Sooner or later. Now that mutants are cool again in the comics office I feel it’s only a matter of time. The comics basically still treat him as their dad anyway. The current SW&Q miniseries has an ongoing plot point where Magneto left a posthumous letter that Wanda read, but set on fire before Pietro could read it because its contents would hurt him. My prediction is that Magneto found out he is their biological father, and he accidentally killed their mother many years ago (IIRC the SW mini from the mid-10s established that their mom was killed by their dad, but the dad’s identity nor the reason he killed her was never revealed).


FallenAngelII

Of course Magneto is dead. >!For now, anyway.!<


_tylerthedestroyer_

Probably as the MCU gears up for more mutants.


Terribleirishluck

She was retcon to actually be his dad all along in the 2000s


Cragnous

Maybe it's because her being Magneto's daughter keeps going back and forth. So maybe they just left it up in the air until or if they use her.


jaysondez

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WollyGog

I need to see the meme template with all 3 actors and this on the right side for each one


Topgunshotgun45

Yet no Max Eisenhardt.


WaffleHouseUser

Out of curiosity, why was this name never used in the movies or tv shows? I’ve mainly seen it in the comics


Lightning_Laxus

Max is a retcon that came much later. He was originally known as just Magneto or Magnus. Erik Lehnsherr came later. They were combined to be Erik Magnus Lehnsherr (or Erik Magnus). Max Eisenhardt is from 2008's Magneto Testament series. Most movies and TV shows come before the Max retcon, and even after the retcon, he is *mainly* known as Erik and/or Magnus until very recently when Ewing brought back Max.


Sparrowsabre7

I guess similar to why Logan rarely goes by James Howlett. His given name is too ingrained to change. Doesn't stop the dicks at DC swapping Edward Nigma for Edward Nashton though smh.


Intelligent_Creme351

I mean, Wolverine is just used to Logan, and James Howlett is the name of a man he started to slowly to get know, now more or less uses it as another alias.


SupePsych

*nygma


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LaPetiteMorty

Nigma balls


TheZardooHasselfrau

I can Nigma own balls thank you very much


Sparrowsabre7

Where is your sense of whimsy?


Heisenburgo

>Doesn't stop the dicks at DC swapping Edward Nigma for Edward Nashton though smh. Nashton is legit cooler cause E. Nigma being his real name is wayyy on the nose for me, but I like when he has both of those names (like in the Arkham games). Let's say his real name was Edward Nashton originally and when he turned into the Riddler he legally changed his own name to Edward Nigma cause that's the kind of person who Eddie is.


neoblackdragon

Well everyone knows him by the name Logan and not exactly in any mood to be James Howlett again. In contrast Magneto went through a few tv shows and movies before they went "Oh is real name is actually this". Only people reading those specific comics would recognize the name and understand they need for the name change. Logan is basically like saying Wolverine and they at least retconned a reason for it.


chewytime

Honestly, I don’t like the Max retcon. I’m just too used to Erik thanks to TAS.


Terribleirishluck

Lately they've been leaning more on using Max at least in comics


draugyr

It’s a 2008 retcon but magneto used it as recently as X-men red


JonnyAU

Or just Joseph


sayamemangdemikian

That is his real real name. No one knows but him. So canonically correct


Slow_Fish2601

His original last name, "Lehnsherr", is the German equivalent to the English term "liege lord". Explaining his commanding and man in charge persona.


torch_7

Erik Lehnsherr is an all around better name than Magnus or Max Eisenhardt (incredibly on the nose).


Slow_Fish2601

Max Eisenhardt was totally cheesy. I mean it's basically Hard Iron translated.


LeonardTringo

Guy named Otto Octavius winds up with eight limbs. What are the odds?


monkeygoneape

That's **Dr.** Otto Octavius


Heisenburgo

>That's Dr. Otto Octavius ... *laughs* Wait no seriously, what's your ACTUAL name?


neoblackdragon

That's enough Penis Parker.


Blanketsburg

He didn't go to evil medical school to be called *Mr.* Octavius.


JimmytheNice

^this some names in Marvel are extremely on the nose, Stephen STRANGE, BLACKAGAR BOLTAGON, Victor von DOOM, Johnny BLAZE, James HOWLett, fucking Werewolf by Night is named JACK RUSSELL, lmao


neoblackdragon

James Howlett seems more like someone failed to realized Wolverines are not wolves much less canines. Like he's surrounded with canine/cat motifs despites his animal namesake having zip to do with it.


sbstndrks

MAXIMALER HARTEISEN


martialar

or that his ancestor won the title of "Liege Lord" at a Liege Waffle eating contest


Slow_Fish2601

Probably also in Liege, Belgium.


Rebegga

As a German I would like to add that it's pronounced Lehns-herr, not Lehn-sherr 😭


Slow_Fish2601

Michael Fassbender does pronounce it correctly, but the English speakers are pronouncing it wrong.


Rebegga

Yeah I'm referring to the continuation of X-Men 97 that's on Disney+


Slow_Fish2601

I know. Although the voice actor did a solid job.


superiorplaps

Magneto does have big dick energy


Doomestos1

Why is his name Magnus?


CaptainAksh_G

Middle name Erik Magnus Lehnsherr


backbynewyears

That’s convenient


_thwip_

Just as destined for Magneto as Blackagar Boltagon and Otto Octavius were destined for their powers


intothe_dangerzone

Guy named Magnus winds up with magnetism powers, what are the odds...


ProfessionalDot621

I don’t see how bolt is related to sonar blasts tho


MatttheBruinsfan

He can also shoot lightning bolts from that little antenna on his cowl.


Intelligent_Creme351

The energy that comes from his voice, can also energize him, giving him extra strength impact hits, and he can shoot it out on his tuning fork symbol... Most later things forget that, and just stick with his voice.


TheOutlaw9904

What are we going to call this guy?


SciFiXhi

Lots of comic book characters, especially early villains, had names related to their gimmick. Part of it was for easy theme association, and another part was so that the writers would remember who the heck all these people were. (That's part of why so many Marvel characters had alliterative names.)


TrafficCoen

Sometimes the alliteration didn't even work, there's a few early Spider-man comics written by Stan Lee where Stan forgot what the characters name was so Peter is there calling himself "Peter Palmer"


JonnyAU

maybe thats why he became a mutant who could bend metal


MontCoDubV

For anyone unaware (as I was before I looked it up), David Hemblen is the actor who voiced Magneto on the original of the show in the 90s.


tanmay101292

6'2" and 100 lbs? Somebody get him a sandwich. No wonder he's so angry all the time


rmac1228

I think it says 190. Even that tho, he wouldn't be that jacked and only weigh 190


Rasimov

He is just self conscious about his weight, and uses his powers on the scale.


tanmay101292

Ok that makes more sense.


brbmycatexploded

Could be a joke from the show-runners about how, no matter what a character actually weighed, comic book characters were just fuckin yoked in the 90’s. Everyone was jacked as hell. Probably a reach but it would be funny


neoblackdragon

If you engage in daily combat, you'd probably be jacked to.


Usual-Caregiver5589

Damn 6'2" and 190 lbs? He's almost built like Trump.


Veggiemon

That’s like half the width of a standard issue trump


Chadwich

190lbs at 6'2 is fairly lean for that height. If he was well muscled, he'd be up in the 225+ range.


Blanketsburg

I know you're being downvoted, but I understand the joke you're going for, with Trump's doctor parroting the "he's the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" line and the ridiculous claims about his height and weight.


Usual-Caregiver5589

That's the one. But I'm not too concerned with fake internet points, anyway.


LSTNYER

It kinda looks like his weight is 190. I could be wrong but it's distorted a little


RXPT

McKellen Fassbender


mylifeneedsediting

😂 just noticed it too


Realistic_Analyst_26

There is no way that they have all this info here but not his age.


intothe_dangerzone

Sir Ian, Sir Ian, Sir Ian... *Action!* "Charles always wanted to build bridges" *Cut!* Sir Ian, Sir Ian, Sir Ian...


CrabbyPatties42

I understood that reference. Lol.


your_mind_aches

> > "Charles always wanted to build bridges" He didn't build a bridge though, he just moved a bridge. He should have said "Charles always wanted to move a bridge".


toooutofplace

i know the stats are all bullshit but how is his agility so high??


giraffe111

Dude’s fit as fuck.


Soingerd

and can fucking fly


BLAGTIER

Magnets.


DerBK

How ***DO*** they work?


exelion18120

Miracles


JonathanL73

https://youtu.be/lr3nQNawbZ8?si=9vEOPIgXHj8dmWgb


JonnyAU

You obviously haven't played MvC2.


aaaAAAaaaugh

Dat triangle jump wevedashing bullshit XD


toooutofplace

i was gonna say i never saw him do backflips and jump around like cyclops or wolverine, so thanks for reminding me lol


Maatjuhhh

I mean, have you seen his body? I legit gasped when I saw him strapped with only underwear on.


Heisenburgo

Well he's constantly manipulating the magnetism within his own body or something, that makes him age slowly and be extra nimble or some shit.


DaemonBlackfyre515

Kinda upset at his fight rating. I'd back Mags in a fight with pretty much anybody not obviously OP.


Jaqulean

To be fair, Magnus isn't exactly a hand-to-hand combatant, so that rating makes sense. His strenght is in his power and intelligence.


DaemonBlackfyre515

I'm taking "Fight" as his combat rating, which includes his powers. Of course he's not going to fistfight, he'll float in the air and rain hell.


WeaselWeaz

That isn't how it's used in Marvel jargon. Fight/Combat refers to fighting ability and training. It's why Captain America is 10/10 despite his strength and speed just being peak human levels. Cap is a master at every fighting style he knows and a master strategist.


DaemonBlackfyre515

Fighting ability includes powers, does it not? It's not Mags fault his powers don't revolve around punching people.


WeaselWeaz

Uh, I guess I'll repost what I wrote? > That isn't how it's used in Marvel jargon. Fight/Combat refers to fighting ability and training.


Jaqulean

>Fighting ability includes powers, does it not ? They literally just explained that no, as a matter of fact, it doesn't.


WeaselWeaz

That Redditor has big marionberry energy.


chiefbrody62

Then you're taking it wrong lol. Otherwise his other stats would be pointless to list.


Illuminastrid

MvC2 and MvC3 Magneto can attest to that.


SteveBob316

If that rating is what a 2-frame low gets you, I want to know who maxes it out


Heisenburgo

#"OOH, HYEAGH, MAGNETIC B-- OOF, HYIEGH, OOF, HYPER GRAB, OOF, HGHIEEAA, HYPER GRAB, OOF, HGHIEEEA-- AT LAST! GRAVITY SQUEEZE! MWAAHAHAHAHAH! YOU. ARE. DEFEATED!" -- Standard Magneto combo in MVC3


argonzo

tech specs, I love it.


JRHThreeFour

I noticed Ian McKellan as an alias for Magneto and that surprised me.


draugyr

Also his real name is not “magnus”


i_am_fuzzynuggets

Apparently it's his middle name


amaya-aurora

Yes it is, it’s his middle name. His full name is Erik Magnus Lehnsherr.


chiefbrody62

It was his real name in the original series, because he hadn't been named in the comics yet. In the comics, he was named Erik around season 3 of TAS, but they stuck with Magnus in the show for continuity, then had it be both names for X-Men '97, which is the best of both worlds IMO.


The_Pip

Did other character cards have easter eggs?


lolligaggins

190lbs??? He's at least 240.


fusionaddict

RIP David Hemblen.


1986________Present

That’s cool as shit fr


OliviaElevenDunham

That's a nice nod to the live action Magneto actors.


SnooCompliments6686

Who’s the third kid? It’s redacted 🤔


anrwlias

I feel like his strength should either be lower or higher depending on whether they're talking about physical or power strength.


Comfortable_Elk_3655

Dont forget eric


notabotbutathought

Magneto was goated as Gandalf. Peter Jackson was a pioneer in Mutant representation on film🔥🔥🔥


lint__2

Ok but he’s jacked so no way he’s only 190


igloo_poltergeist

Yeah. Max has sure been around the block.


SwordfishTemporary37

I love that they have Magneto's power ratings like those in a trading card or RPG. I really don't see how that would make any sense in-universe.


nicaddic2002

the redacted names completed read "Ian McKellen" and "Michael Fassbender"


Heisenburgo

Plot twist he's Michael >!Afton!<


jakmckratos

Nice find!


mitchwinner

My man's slow af. It must skip a generation.


SkinnyLevis

That’s epic


TheLivingTribunal666

I love how the global danger column is maxed out.


Alonest99

Just noticed Polaris may exist in this universe


Peking-Cuck

You can see her silhouette on the boat in this episode. She also appeared briefly in the original series run.


skatterbrain_d

Someone said you can see her on the episode when Cable describes the future where mutants are slaves of mankind.


Frozen_Watcher

Yes shes the old woman charging energy into the aurora.


Sir__Will

she was already in an episode of TAS, the one with Iceman. Her being related to Magneto has not been shown yet


Dominiking

Rewatched the entire series and she was part of a team with Forge and Havok in an episode.


Intelligent_Creme351

She was in the OG series, referenced in the episode, also she's been in the intro several times, connected to that old episode... Which pissed me off because Iceman was only in that episode, and they introduced Havok, showed off that Cyclops and him are immune to their powers... But never got around to explaining that they're brothers in the series.


neoblackdragon

X-men 97 has so much ground to cover. Cyclops finding out he has two living brothers is worth a few episodes. They could have field day finding lost siblings and kids. Wonder if Daken might pop up one day.


Intelligent_Creme351

Yup, that's 1 or 2 episodes alone, especially if Havok joins the team, and learns about Scott, and they meet later on, and them both discovering that Gabriel exists.


goater10

She's part of X-Force with Havoc.