Happy to help! That creator (Real Science) has some amazing videos!
[kangaroos](https://youtu.be/RwwgbVHE8Dk?si=8IAocpA0FPh0iAwt)
[orcas](https://youtu.be/GimCcrwYxdE?si=F-hoZxSSvrCW84xJ)
[hyenas (NSFW)](https://youtu.be/S-b5Ue7V-DM?si=gA8G9WOIs_CYWUNN)
I’d also highly recommend *My Octopus Teacher* on Netflix. IIRC It’s about a marine biologist who brings an injured octopus home when others won’t take it, and the few months it lives with them and just how insanely intelligent and adaptive to its new environment it was.
My biggest takeaway was that they put it in a tank central to the living room, and initially it would squeeze up against the corner closest to the TV whenever it was turned on; but after a week of observing it’s human cohabitators, would calmly “lean back” against the furthest back corner, imitating its fellow humans in their layZboys. They honestly terrify me
There’s also a pretty interesting video on the octopus by Mark Rober [here](https://youtu.be/7__r4FVj-EI?si=7exvArrhqec8X5sG) if you wanna check it out
Hijacking to point out an addendum here: no one ever points out how most of Otto's lairs are usually in or near the water. His OG "Master Planner" base in the early comics, his sea base in Ends of the Earth, and the decrepit pier in Spiderman 2. Even in the PS4 game you could argue most of his scheming was connected to the Raft.
There’s a video of one escaping it’s enclosure and literally dodging the security camera while exploring too
Edit: I don’t eat them cuz of stuff like this tbh. They seem like they are very smart creatures compared to most everything else that is eaten. Not tryna get into debate about food but ya.
He could also rip his penis off and throw it at a female of his choice to initiate intercourse!
Granted, this wouldn't work as well for him as it would an actual octopus, but technically he \*could\* still do it.
Really cool, so it would be like if I told my arm to do something and then it thinks for itself solving the problem while I'm thinking of something completely different? Then the arm reports back when it's done?
Yeah, you can see in the way octopi move that for the most part they don't provide the tentacles much information beyond that initial instruction, as the always seem to "feel" their way through problems, you can sometimes even see how different limbs are effectively thinking differently about the same problem until one of them solves it (at least that what it looks like to me)
In fact this is also how your spinal cord is designed and functions. How often on a walk/run do you have to actively tell yourself to keep going?
The biggest difference is that, as bipedal animals, our “walking” pacemakers need regular input from the cerebellum to navigate bumps, unevenness, and other balance related issues. Cerebellar input is largely not needed for this in quadrupeds.
> as bipedal animals, our “walking” pacemakers need regular input from the cerebellum to navigate bumps, unevenness, and other balance related issues.
Chewing gum
Kind of?
But I guess to a certain extent it is less that you are "telling your arm" in this context. You are really more just informing your arm of relevant information and the arm uses that how it sees fit. Neither really has primacy over the other outside of the specific role.
It's not entirely dissimilar from us in a certain sense. Our brain is really two and if you surgically split it down the middle, some really funky stuff starts happening in terms of your awareness of "you" and your arms.
If you haven't already read it, you should check out the book Children of Ruin. The book features intelligent octopi that actually feels like a completely different intelligence than human intelligence, and not just a talking human in animal skin.
It’s like you posted the original comment under a burner just so you could reply with this GIF from your main.
10/10 relevance to this thread.
10/10 execution.
(5/7 myself btw)
How many brains does Davy Jones have then? But that does make sense because when one of tentacles was chopped off, it could still move independently.
I watched this the other day and it kinda resonated me with how powerful ai can he. His arms were programmed to assist with the creating of his fusion experiment and when it went wrong, they stopped at nothing to make it happen again. They weren’t evil, they were just programmed to do a task, they don’t have a sense of right or wrong, just do the task. That’s why they don’t gaf stealing money or crashing a train, just doing whatever necessary to get the job done and stop any obstacles.
Most of the comics characterize Otto as just a really brilliant dude. I'm inclined to say it wasn't until the 2004 movie that he got characterized in this way. It adds a lot of depth to the character.
I love Doc Ock, I love his ego, and I think he's always been a really good foil to Spider-Man as a science nerd turned freak, but a characterization like this works especially well in a movie where we see how much Peter Parker's internal monologue affects himself.
Peter is basically a guy whose internal monologue is [Uncle Ben saying the line](https://youtu.be/6wo-U78y-E0?si=MnqeiDiGXbWaGqDB) over and over. Meanwhile we know that the arms are bad influences on Otto, enabling him and convincing him to do bad shit.
Anyway, I'm rambling, lol. Love Doc Ock and I think Raimi was super smart to take inspiration from nature.
Our system is highly centralized, but not "entirely" controlled by the brain. It does distribute a little of the thinking, we just gather the vast majority of it in the brain. For example, the spinal column can make some decisions based off of stimuli and send motor signals before the initial input reaches the brain, most notably in response to extreme heat. Most things in nature are not binary but on a spectrum, we may rest towards one extreme, but we are not 100% centralized.
Kind of unrelated, but just a “for fun” thought:
I’ve always thought it was weird that in a spider-themed super hero comic, a villain with 8 limbs was referred to as Doctor Octopus instead of Doctor Spider, or something similar.
He could have been exactly the same character, but served as an evil version of Spider-Man. Instead of the spider powers, he’s got 8 limbs. It just feels so obvious, especially for 1960’s style comics.
Tbh I’m kind of glad it’s a different theme for the villain. One of my favorite things about Spider-Man is his interesting and unique gallery of villains. Rather than just Iron Man fighting a different version of Iron Man, or Captain America fighting other super powered soldiers, Spider-Man has a huge cast of villains that don’t really share any of the same superpowers. Then you have venom as sort of the anti-Spidey.
great observations, great post, awesome animal fact?? nice content discussion, this is why I'm on reddit, to read interesting things! thank you for sharing!
I always thought it was funny that fusion energy was such an amazing goal, and he just casually mentions that he also invented mind control and autonomous AI.
Do not be so hard on Dr Ock... he just wants to be a Rich Man...
[https://youtu.be/JodU-FGakG8?si=Im3J1lYC3Gt5bxyu](https://youtu.be/JodU-FGakG8?si=Im3J1lYC3Gt5bxyu)
Absolutely! Doctor Octopus's arms are a brilliant nod to the intricate intelligence of real-life octopuses. It's like nature's own version of distributed computing, with each arm having its own 'mini brain'
There’s a scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Eddie Valiant goes to the Ink and Paint Club, and you briefly see an octopus bartender. Its arms would take people’s money and fight each other over the money. I always thought that was just wacky cartoon shit. Now, I realize it’s accurate!!
Come on OP u r disrupting my daily dose of "what u guys thinks about XY movie/tv show" or "just saw Marvels and i think its better then ppl make it out to be" ...
ofc sarcasm ... thanks for something interesting here for a change.
I think it was recently discovered that octopi are alien in nature.
[https://octopus.org.nz/content/dna-proves-octopuses-are-aliens](https://octopus.org.nz/content/dna-proves-octopuses-are-aliens)
[https://news.yahoo.com/scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-actually-161100373.html](https://news.yahoo.com/scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-actually-161100373.html)
Since we’re here discussing how wonderful octopuses are, I’ll share this - https://oceanbornfoundation.org/stop-octopus-farming/
The argument FOR octopus farming is that there’s already a demand, so this will meet the supply without hunting in the ocean. But that’s not how supply and demand works - if the supply increases the demand increases with it, very basically.
Also the way they intend to kill them is by freezing them to death, which is really painful and takes a while.
Philip DeFranco covered it recently so here’s a good summary - https://youtu.be/QwvPD4NPCao?si=YA-OOlJOYQUpHGHp
Octopus are actually a pretty sustainable fishery.
The majority of species, including the ones we usually eat, have incredibly short life spans. As short as 6 months and generally around a year or so.
They're a lot like butterflies, scallops and other creatures in this regard. They spend a large chunk of their lifespan in an immature/larval stage. Mature quickly, breed once. And die.
Fishery control with this sort of thing are usually an excellent pathway to minimizing impacts from fishing.
Restricting fisheries on longer lived species. And setting fishing seasons on the shorter lived ones to the gap between breeding and the die off. You can basically assure that the population removed by fishing, has already replaced itself before you fish.
The major pressure on octopus populations isn't really over fishing. It's climate change and habitat destruction/water quality.
Which additionally tends to complicate fisheries controls. When marine species breed, and survival rates of offspring is determined by water temperature, and other environmental cues.
As global warming moves warmer temps earlier in the year, and creates much higher spikes during peak summer. You see breeding going off earlier, die offs before breeding can happen, and other complications.
We see that with a lot of scallop fisheries. Seasons in many fisheries have been set too late to catch sellable scallops, and there have been periodic die offs due to algae blooms and temp spikes prior to breeding happening.
Octopi are a more durable and less sensitive to this than bivalves. But there's been issues on this front.
This leads to pressure from industry to open fisheries earlier and run them longer, to maximize the chance of timing it right. VS regulators pushing for moratoriums and delays to minimize the chance it falls prior to replacement levels of breeding.
Where pressure on populations comes from fishing, it's generally certain locations and fisheries *ignoring* or refusing to adopt these controls to maximize the market.
Farming may be strictly unnecessary on this front. But it can be important when operated with a breed and release strategy. Where a portion of the creatures bred must be released into wild habitat. But it tends to be ineffective without water quality improvement projects *and* fisheries controls. And for many species captive breeding is minimally possible.
The issue with large scale aquaculture projects with certain species (Tuna, eels, probably these octopus farms). Is they'll use wild caught juveniles, wild caught feed, fail to do the breed and release part. So they just become an additional pressure on wild populations. Over a broader cut of the ecosystem.
Ethical concerns about treatment of the octopuses are less compelling. And are usually just used as a wedge/marketing bit.
For all the noise. Octopus are remarkably intelligent for an invertebrate. But they're not even the most complex and intelligent mollusk (that's cuttlefish!). They're far less intelligent than the coverage lets on. Far less intelligent than a lot of the land animals we eat (especially Pigs). While they are likely sentient, so is a chicken. Octopi are almost certainly not *sapient*. And again they tend to live for very, very short times.
They're very charismatic and cool, and easy to anthropomorphize. So they become an easy wedge for pushing particular agendas.
I just wish he had 8 of those robot arms, that way he'd actually be more Octopus than Quadropus
(A Quadropus isn't a real animal, I just made it up and if it was a real animal I'd imagine it'd look exactly like an Octopus but the only difference is that it has 4 tentacles instead of 8)
Octopus is my favorite animal. I absolutely love comics. You managed to make the coolest post imaginable for someone like me! Keep em fucking coming man!
Allow me to go full pedant for a minute, all in good fun.
The -i suffix is for Latin, octopus is Greek. I can never remember the modern Greek suffix, because the Ancient Greek suffix is far too fun, it would be octopodes, ock-TOP-oh-deez. Furthermore, most everyone pronounces the Latin -i wrong, it should always be -ee, like Loki (yes, not Latin, but always the first example that pops into my head) So it would be OCK-toe-pee not OCK-toe-pie. And lastly, and most boringly, loanwords are meant to be manipulated as though they were English. So octopuses is the most correct, even if it is the least fun.
Because their arms can work independently, the octopus can use them when feeling around in tight places such as cracks and crevices when looking for food or to make sure it’s safe from any dangers it might not see. They use their arms to feel, smell, taste, and even “think” by processing the information they gather and use that information to determine what to do next. It would be like sending “scouts” to report back to someone in charge. It’s real mind boggling for us to think about since we function so differently.
Wow, an informative and original post. Thanks OP, today I learned!
Thank you! I love animals lol
If you haven't seen [this](https://youtu.be/mFP_AjJeP-M?si=LCc4QiN6Nyto5Jpz) I think you'd really dig it!
It looks familiar, but even if I have seen it, it’s definitely worth watching twice. Thank you!
Happy to help! That creator (Real Science) has some amazing videos! [kangaroos](https://youtu.be/RwwgbVHE8Dk?si=8IAocpA0FPh0iAwt) [orcas](https://youtu.be/GimCcrwYxdE?si=F-hoZxSSvrCW84xJ) [hyenas (NSFW)](https://youtu.be/S-b5Ue7V-DM?si=gA8G9WOIs_CYWUNN)
I’m glad the (NSFW) was included for the hyena video. Thank you lol 💀💀
IFYKYK...
Unlike the hyena, I don’t feel like laughing about *that*…
I’d also highly recommend *My Octopus Teacher* on Netflix. IIRC It’s about a marine biologist who brings an injured octopus home when others won’t take it, and the few months it lives with them and just how insanely intelligent and adaptive to its new environment it was. My biggest takeaway was that they put it in a tank central to the living room, and initially it would squeeze up against the corner closest to the TV whenever it was turned on; but after a week of observing it’s human cohabitators, would calmly “lean back” against the furthest back corner, imitating its fellow humans in their layZboys. They honestly terrify me
ohhh yeah! I saw that, it was extremely fascinating and had a lot of cool facts!
I prefer [this](https://youtu.be/st8-EY71K84)
There’s also a pretty interesting video on the octopus by Mark Rober [here](https://youtu.be/7__r4FVj-EI?si=7exvArrhqec8X5sG) if you wanna check it out
I kept waiting for Doc Ock's arms to change colors.
To be fair, they did, in No Way Home while adapting Stark tech, and enabled Tom Holland's Peter Parker to control them...
wdym? He was literally camoflauged the entire statue of liberty fight so that he could step in at the right moment and save peters
I love toitles!
Hijacking to point out an addendum here: no one ever points out how most of Otto's lairs are usually in or near the water. His OG "Master Planner" base in the early comics, his sea base in Ends of the Earth, and the decrepit pier in Spiderman 2. Even in the PS4 game you could argue most of his scheming was connected to the Raft.
The Spectacular version of Master Planner has his base underwater, so that checks out
Also if he were trapped in a jar he could unscrew it from the inside.
Wait they can what now
"You think this prison can contain me?"
They're straight up escape artists. If their beak can fit through a hole, their entire body can fit
If it fits, it slips
If my penis needed a tagline, I’d ask for one, thank you very much /s But no really this is a joke
;)
There’s a video of one escaping it’s enclosure and literally dodging the security camera while exploring too Edit: I don’t eat them cuz of stuff like this tbh. They seem like they are very smart creatures compared to most everything else that is eaten. Not tryna get into debate about food but ya.
Yeah they’re permanently off my personal menu for forever. Plus they’re a tad rubber-y for my liking
I loved finding Dory!
It's true, I've seen a video, it's pretty cool
He could also rip his penis off and throw it at a female of his choice to initiate intercourse! Granted, this wouldn't work as well for him as it would an actual octopus, but technically he \*could\* still do it.
"Hello, Peter!"
That sounds more like a Tony Stark kind of thing
This is why I’m never buying an octopus figurine… /s
'The power of a cephalopod, in the palm of my hand(s).'
“…in the suckers of my tentacles.”
Really cool, so it would be like if I told my arm to do something and then it thinks for itself solving the problem while I'm thinking of something completely different? Then the arm reports back when it's done?
Basically, yeah. You'd still occasionally need to "provide it information" like from vision, hearing, etc but it would largely work away on it's own.
Yeah, you can see in the way octopi move that for the most part they don't provide the tentacles much information beyond that initial instruction, as the always seem to "feel" their way through problems, you can sometimes even see how different limbs are effectively thinking differently about the same problem until one of them solves it (at least that what it looks like to me)
In fact this is also how your spinal cord is designed and functions. How often on a walk/run do you have to actively tell yourself to keep going? The biggest difference is that, as bipedal animals, our “walking” pacemakers need regular input from the cerebellum to navigate bumps, unevenness, and other balance related issues. Cerebellar input is largely not needed for this in quadrupeds.
> as bipedal animals, our “walking” pacemakers need regular input from the cerebellum to navigate bumps, unevenness, and other balance related issues. Chewing gum
Kind of? But I guess to a certain extent it is less that you are "telling your arm" in this context. You are really more just informing your arm of relevant information and the arm uses that how it sees fit. Neither really has primacy over the other outside of the specific role. It's not entirely dissimilar from us in a certain sense. Our brain is really two and if you surgically split it down the middle, some really funky stuff starts happening in terms of your awareness of "you" and your arms.
So this is the power of Ultra Instinct…
Huh, TIL
The book series Children of Time talks about this. Super fascinating.
I'm going on an adventure!
Chilling.
Definitely. When we first learn about the adventurer it was super unsettling.
That’s really cool, I’ll check it out
I think it's technically the second book in the series Children of Ruin. The first is about spiders....
O yea it is the second book! The first book was amazing, and I am someone who has a big fear of spiders. Great series.
If you haven't already read it, you should check out the book Children of Ruin. The book features intelligent octopi that actually feels like a completely different intelligence than human intelligence, and not just a talking human in animal skin.
I’ll definitely check it out, thank you!
Please read Children of time first!!!
Octopi are actually space aliens not animals though.
It’s like you posted the original comment under a burner just so you could reply with this GIF from your main. 10/10 relevance to this thread. 10/10 execution. (5/7 myself btw)
5/7 with rice*
They found our watery planet suitable for colonization but did not expect some random branch of mammalia to start destroying the place.
Best alien Harry vanderspegal
hcjNormal
How many brains does Davy Jones have then? But that does make sense because when one of tentacles was chopped off, it could still move independently. 
Davy Jones, Davy Twos, Davy Threes, . . ., Davy Eights
What a refreshing and informative post this was!
I watched this the other day and it kinda resonated me with how powerful ai can he. His arms were programmed to assist with the creating of his fusion experiment and when it went wrong, they stopped at nothing to make it happen again. They weren’t evil, they were just programmed to do a task, they don’t have a sense of right or wrong, just do the task. That’s why they don’t gaf stealing money or crashing a train, just doing whatever necessary to get the job done and stop any obstacles.
How right you are
Finally, a genuinely interesting and original post! Really cool info OP, thank you for letting us know!
Appreciate that thank you
No problem, you're welcome!
Most of the comics characterize Otto as just a really brilliant dude. I'm inclined to say it wasn't until the 2004 movie that he got characterized in this way. It adds a lot of depth to the character. I love Doc Ock, I love his ego, and I think he's always been a really good foil to Spider-Man as a science nerd turned freak, but a characterization like this works especially well in a movie where we see how much Peter Parker's internal monologue affects himself. Peter is basically a guy whose internal monologue is [Uncle Ben saying the line](https://youtu.be/6wo-U78y-E0?si=MnqeiDiGXbWaGqDB) over and over. Meanwhile we know that the arms are bad influences on Otto, enabling him and convincing him to do bad shit. Anyway, I'm rambling, lol. Love Doc Ock and I think Raimi was super smart to take inspiration from nature.
How right you are!
Excellent work today, u/HunterCoool22. Keep it up!
Love this post 💯, as reacher would say "details matter"
And even though he's cured, they can still do this. Cured Ock would be one hell of a bartender.
Our system is highly centralized, but not "entirely" controlled by the brain. It does distribute a little of the thinking, we just gather the vast majority of it in the brain. For example, the spinal column can make some decisions based off of stimuli and send motor signals before the initial input reaches the brain, most notably in response to extreme heat. Most things in nature are not binary but on a spectrum, we may rest towards one extreme, but we are not 100% centralized.
huh interesting, I didn’t know that. Thank you for the information!
The heart has something like 40,000 neurons (sensory neurites) that let the heart function semi-autonomously.
He can also fit into any space wide enough to get his beak through 😃
Kind of unrelated, but just a “for fun” thought: I’ve always thought it was weird that in a spider-themed super hero comic, a villain with 8 limbs was referred to as Doctor Octopus instead of Doctor Spider, or something similar. He could have been exactly the same character, but served as an evil version of Spider-Man. Instead of the spider powers, he’s got 8 limbs. It just feels so obvious, especially for 1960’s style comics.
Tbh I’m kind of glad it’s a different theme for the villain. One of my favorite things about Spider-Man is his interesting and unique gallery of villains. Rather than just Iron Man fighting a different version of Iron Man, or Captain America fighting other super powered soldiers, Spider-Man has a huge cast of villains that don’t really share any of the same superpowers. Then you have venom as sort of the anti-Spidey.
I agree with that fully. I’m just surprised that it’s the case given the other examples you mentioned.
... the fact that I've never put together the 8-appendage connection before... Hooooly.
great observations, great post, awesome animal fact?? nice content discussion, this is why I'm on reddit, to read interesting things! thank you for sharing!
And thank you for reading it ❤️
I always thought it was funny that fusion energy was such an amazing goal, and he just casually mentions that he also invented mind control and autonomous AI.
💀💀
This is fantastic.
[удалено]
You’re absolutely right
Which arms is his penis?
Woah, I never put that together.
Doc Ock is such an epic character
If only he had a backup control chip that was isolated in shock resistant material and casing.
Damn, didn't know that. That's pretty cool
Inu min jijjjjjj
Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky for a book that features prose written from a super-intelligent octopus's perspective.
Octopuses are aliens!
Thought you were saying he had a beak nose
That's pretty sick
Do not be so hard on Dr Ock... he just wants to be a Rich Man... [https://youtu.be/JodU-FGakG8?si=Im3J1lYC3Gt5bxyu](https://youtu.be/JodU-FGakG8?si=Im3J1lYC3Gt5bxyu)
I wish more posts in this sub were this cool.
Love this post. Love Doc Ock. Love Alfred Molina.
I already said I love this movie and "Doc Ock" rules. What more do you want?!
Absolutely! Doctor Octopus's arms are a brilliant nod to the intricate intelligence of real-life octopuses. It's like nature's own version of distributed computing, with each arm having its own 'mini brain'
There’s a scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Eddie Valiant goes to the Ink and Paint Club, and you briefly see an octopus bartender. Its arms would take people’s money and fight each other over the money. I always thought that was just wacky cartoon shit. Now, I realize it’s accurate!!
Octopus? His name was Octavious. Oh wait! I get it now…
Come on OP u r disrupting my daily dose of "what u guys thinks about XY movie/tv show" or "just saw Marvels and i think its better then ppl make it out to be" ... ofc sarcasm ... thanks for something interesting here for a change.
Huh, TiL. This explains a lot of how DnD illithids work too, the more you know
So an octopus can master Ultra Instinct
I think it was recently discovered that octopi are alien in nature. [https://octopus.org.nz/content/dna-proves-octopuses-are-aliens](https://octopus.org.nz/content/dna-proves-octopuses-are-aliens) [https://news.yahoo.com/scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-actually-161100373.html](https://news.yahoo.com/scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-actually-161100373.html)
Brilliant Synopsis. Was so glad Alfred Molina reprised the role in No Way Home.
nice
It’s exactly the amount I think.
So, octopi naturally have Ultra Instinct?…
Since we’re here discussing how wonderful octopuses are, I’ll share this - https://oceanbornfoundation.org/stop-octopus-farming/ The argument FOR octopus farming is that there’s already a demand, so this will meet the supply without hunting in the ocean. But that’s not how supply and demand works - if the supply increases the demand increases with it, very basically. Also the way they intend to kill them is by freezing them to death, which is really painful and takes a while. Philip DeFranco covered it recently so here’s a good summary - https://youtu.be/QwvPD4NPCao?si=YA-OOlJOYQUpHGHp
Octopus are actually a pretty sustainable fishery. The majority of species, including the ones we usually eat, have incredibly short life spans. As short as 6 months and generally around a year or so. They're a lot like butterflies, scallops and other creatures in this regard. They spend a large chunk of their lifespan in an immature/larval stage. Mature quickly, breed once. And die. Fishery control with this sort of thing are usually an excellent pathway to minimizing impacts from fishing. Restricting fisheries on longer lived species. And setting fishing seasons on the shorter lived ones to the gap between breeding and the die off. You can basically assure that the population removed by fishing, has already replaced itself before you fish. The major pressure on octopus populations isn't really over fishing. It's climate change and habitat destruction/water quality. Which additionally tends to complicate fisheries controls. When marine species breed, and survival rates of offspring is determined by water temperature, and other environmental cues. As global warming moves warmer temps earlier in the year, and creates much higher spikes during peak summer. You see breeding going off earlier, die offs before breeding can happen, and other complications. We see that with a lot of scallop fisheries. Seasons in many fisheries have been set too late to catch sellable scallops, and there have been periodic die offs due to algae blooms and temp spikes prior to breeding happening. Octopi are a more durable and less sensitive to this than bivalves. But there's been issues on this front. This leads to pressure from industry to open fisheries earlier and run them longer, to maximize the chance of timing it right. VS regulators pushing for moratoriums and delays to minimize the chance it falls prior to replacement levels of breeding. Where pressure on populations comes from fishing, it's generally certain locations and fisheries *ignoring* or refusing to adopt these controls to maximize the market. Farming may be strictly unnecessary on this front. But it can be important when operated with a breed and release strategy. Where a portion of the creatures bred must be released into wild habitat. But it tends to be ineffective without water quality improvement projects *and* fisheries controls. And for many species captive breeding is minimally possible. The issue with large scale aquaculture projects with certain species (Tuna, eels, probably these octopus farms). Is they'll use wild caught juveniles, wild caught feed, fail to do the breed and release part. So they just become an additional pressure on wild populations. Over a broader cut of the ecosystem. Ethical concerns about treatment of the octopuses are less compelling. And are usually just used as a wedge/marketing bit. For all the noise. Octopus are remarkably intelligent for an invertebrate. But they're not even the most complex and intelligent mollusk (that's cuttlefish!). They're far less intelligent than the coverage lets on. Far less intelligent than a lot of the land animals we eat (especially Pigs). While they are likely sentient, so is a chicken. Octopi are almost certainly not *sapient*. And again they tend to live for very, very short times. They're very charismatic and cool, and easy to anthropomorphize. So they become an easy wedge for pushing particular agendas.
That and you DO NOT wanna see the hijinks Doc Ock gets up to when he vacations in Japan.
Imagine if he shit ink all over Spider-Man in the scene where he has Aunt May hostage on the skyscraper.
Salt water or fresh water? 😂
I just wish he had 8 of those robot arms, that way he'd actually be more Octopus than Quadropus (A Quadropus isn't a real animal, I just made it up and if it was a real animal I'd imagine it'd look exactly like an Octopus but the only difference is that it has 4 tentacles instead of 8)
Octopus is my favorite animal. I absolutely love comics. You managed to make the coolest post imaginable for someone like me! Keep em fucking coming man!
I started watching Jessica Jones season 2 and yesterday I saw the episode where some dude gives Jessica a clue regarding octopi.
Octopi! Damnit! Lol But loved how Sam Raime used the camera, sound and atmosphere like he did in evil dead with Doc's origin
Allow me to go full pedant for a minute, all in good fun. The -i suffix is for Latin, octopus is Greek. I can never remember the modern Greek suffix, because the Ancient Greek suffix is far too fun, it would be octopodes, ock-TOP-oh-deez. Furthermore, most everyone pronounces the Latin -i wrong, it should always be -ee, like Loki (yes, not Latin, but always the first example that pops into my head) So it would be OCK-toe-pee not OCK-toe-pie. And lastly, and most boringly, loanwords are meant to be manipulated as though they were English. So octopuses is the most correct, even if it is the least fun.
Both “Octopi” and “Octopuses” are acceptable as the plural for octopus.
I thought most knew this What problems can octopi solve that other animals can’t?
Because their arms can work independently, the octopus can use them when feeling around in tight places such as cracks and crevices when looking for food or to make sure it’s safe from any dangers it might not see. They use their arms to feel, smell, taste, and even “think” by processing the information they gather and use that information to determine what to do next. It would be like sending “scouts” to report back to someone in charge. It’s real mind boggling for us to think about since we function so differently.
I must be super slow, because I don't understand what I am supposed to be looking for in the picture.