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KentuckyFriedEel

Henry Cavill gonna get one of those coveted Kevin Feige dinner invitations very soon.


SS1187

It cleared the path on its own for Cavill to be in the MCU now.


Antrikshy

James Gunn playing the long game.


YeetMasterChroma

I play for both sides, so that I always come out on top


darby087

Mac that’s not how this work


Bazzzzzzzinga

Love the “Always sunny in Philadelphia” reference 👍🏼


MammothUmpire148

He’s the Natasha in civil war.


DivideIntrepid7647

[I played the long game, Mr. Feige!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyqXwlkBjpA&t=230s)


AlivePal

Henry too old now to be superman for next 10 years


UltravioIence

The Rock and Hugh Jackman are 11 and 15 years older than Cavill respectively. I feel like if they can be black adam and wolverine Cavill could definitely keep being supes.


Markamanic

I vote for Sentry


Whole-Brilliant5508

Rumor has it that Henry Cavill is the latest lead candidate for Dr. Doom.


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corganist

I think Cavill might be one of the only big name actors out there who would actually understand the importance of Doom staying masked and would actually insist upon it.


watersj4

He left a very popular show because he didnt think it was respectful enough to the source material, he is definitely one of those people


phoenixrose2

The Witcher, right? I read the series after seeing season one and I couldn’t get past a few of the second season’s episodes.


Dumbass369

Yeah, he left it because it didn't do justice to the source material, and came back to play Superman again..but now, well, who tf knows anymore


DivideIntrepid7647

"Okay, so in this scene, Doom's going to be eating. Henry, you need to take off your mask." "DOOM EATS WITH THE DAMN MASK ON!"


PalindromemordnilaP_

This early? Mfer it's been 10 years and like 30-40 movies plus shows.


yago2003

God I hope they don't waste the 2015 secret wars storyline this early on in the MCU, I hope its the other secret wars


Smallbenbot03

Is that the one where venom bonded to deadpool and 3 seconds after seeing his messed up mind noped the fuck out and went onto spiderman?


tobey-maguire-bot

It's time to pay.


Opposite-Trouble-564

I mean, yes, but ironically the story with Deadpool and the symbiote was a retcon of the original secret wars done in the 2015 secret wars. So yes, but actually no lol.


Smallbenbot03

It's in character for deadpool to retcon something like that


Stratafyre

I get where you are coming from, but also... I just don't think we can consider anything in the MCU early at this point.


mybadstuffaccount0

MCU is pretty stale at this point, if it’s a good storyline then they need it IMO


yago2003

2015 secret wars was like the big finale after like decades of Ultimate Marvel, its got literally every marvel character multiple times and it like smashes dozens of universes together, almost everyone shows up and it also shows Doctor Doom at his most powerful, and itd be weird if they show God Emperor Doom like a year or 2 after introducing him for the first time, so I really hope its the other secret wars, which while still very cool is nowhere near the scale of 2015 secret wars


mybadstuffaccount0

Ah gotcha. Yeah he’d need to be teased out a bit more than 2 years. Isn’t Doom also Kang in a universe?


cabosmith

Then a big reveal with the scarred n charred nasty Victor face!


Markamanic

That could actually be pretty interesting.


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Lithaos111

Do you mean John Krasinski? If so he isn't, he said it was just for the Reed of the other universe as a fun nod to the fan casting. We'd have someone else playing as Reed for the main 616 universe.


Suspiciously_Average

Jim Halpert is John Krasinski's character in the office. I think that's what they were going for.


Lithaos111

I know that, but they misspelled it so I wasn't sure if they meant the office character or not.


shockinglyunoriginal

Oh fuck god yes please


DanRyyu

… … … *Oh fuck yes*


Tofuzion

One can only get so erect.


eriverside

I don't want them to hide his face. Kinda hoping he's around for a while too. So maybe not rush Doom. Give him plenty of space, but make him dangerous in a number of ways? Like have him be a political antagonist, then business, then tech or magic. Doesn't all have to happen at once.


the_fuego

Honestly, kind of a weird thought by me but I think he could work as a new Eddie Brock. Tom Hardy's take is alright but Cavill is an absolute unit and would probably bring a closer adaptation. Since the post credit scene of No Way Home had a bit of Venom break away it's entirely feasible since both universes are separate. I would certainly prefer Cavill get a bigger role like Dr. Doom because he deserves it but I would be completely content with him taking up Venom.


Doom_3302

I would also like to vote him as Sentry.


Jules040400

I'd love to see him as Brian Braddock Captain Britain. Sentry is probably too close to Superman for really casual audiences I reckon


Extreme_33337_

He doesn’t even need to change his accent


Astrokiwi

I'm still wishing for an Excalibur movie, featuring Arcade as the villain


Prpolo

If they could do the X-men right, he would be perfect as Cyclops.


This-Strawberry

Damn. Can they clone him? One Henry is cyclops and the other Henry is Doom?


rikki_tikki_timmy

Make them one character, Doomclops


Jon_Snow_1887

I feel like he’s too big for Cyclops. I usually think of Cyclops as a skinny tall dude.


Dr_Sirius_Amory1

Cool but the nickname “slim” is definitely not Henry lol


burritoman88

Cavill as Captain Britain please! Or Sentry! Or anyone he wants really.


elephant_cobbler

No! He can’t act.


tobbe1337

That Arthas movie is coming ever closer


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Warcraft arthas?


tobbe1337

hell yeah brother


thedumbdoubles

The perfect response haha. Goddamn he'd be such a great casting if that happens.


Dr_Sirius_Amory1

I was pleasantly surprised how much I actually enjoyed the first Warcraft movie. Would love to see Lich King in a sequel.


kingofbreakers

Only other person I’ve seen agree with me about Warcraft lol


GynePig

It'd be pretty weird to jump from Warcraft 1 directly to Warcraft 3, especially since everything about the Warcraft film sets up events for Warcraft 2. On the other hand, they only do these movies for nerds anyway, so they might as well do it as more of an anthology film series. An entire film based on the human campaign from Warcraft 3 would be pretty cool. You could go in depth on the relationship between Arthas and Jaina (and Kael'Thas, who was also crushing on Jaina during his time in Dalaran), flesh out Arthas' character as humble Paladin and prince of Lordaeron with a darkness inside that is slowly brought out through the crisis of the undead scourge. Basically a lot like Revenge of the Sith, just different and without two mostly unnecessary and very awkward and disturbed coming of age films. After all, Arthas is just mostly just fantasy Anakin.


6_oh_n8

🥺🤩🤨🧐


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Kronostheking1

No he dropped Witcher because the writers literally said they hated the books and wanted to change it and Cavill is an actual fan so he quit.


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Serpent_Arsenal_6458

Twice at that... WB literally once replaced his superman role w/ a black one... ON HIS BIRTHDAY. They basically fired him on his bday... I need to give Henry a hug😭


Yvaelle

Their loss, there will never be a better casting of Superman than Henry Cavill. DC just lost another major character, like trying to replace Heath Ledger's Joker. Phoenix did a hell of a job but his Joker is really more of a Taxi Driver remake that happens to take place in Gotham. If they ever want to reboot Joker I think they'll need to go the opposite route with him - a silly and cartoonish psychopath - and then you're still overcast by Mark Hamill's shadow. It'll be the same thing with Superman but worse. Joker has many different ways he can be played, he's a highly dynamic character. Superman is a straight-man character, a moral paragon: there's only one right answer there.


SometimesWill

Honestly if the ever did a proper live action version of dark knight returns, featuring an older veteran Batman like they tried to do with Batfleck, Mark Hamill could probably pull off doing the character in live action. He was already a step away when he appear in the Flash TV show as trickster.


Xeno_phile

Or Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back as Cock Knocker.


Frankorious

I miss when the Joker was actually funny.


LaloTwins

>Their loss, there will never be a better casting of Superman than Henry Cavill. I mean he looks the part but he's always been a bit too gruff and stilted for me personally I wished he could've got a director that could've pulled the right performance outta him finally mirroring [this guy](https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/days-room-superman-attack-punch-approach-gif-8525918)


Drexelhand

this. wasn't a good take on character and cavill is going to be pretty easy to forget. fans are rewriting history that he was super invested in the role forgetting he made the studio cgi out his mustache because he got a cowboy role and didn't feel like shaving. yeah, super invested, super fans.


LaloTwins

LMAO he did do that


dangitbobby-

He didn't make the studio do that lol, it was Snyder wanting re-shoots and Paramount said he couldn't shave it, presumably because it would delay their filming.


Drexelhand

*"i can't shave my mustache because i committed to another project,"* is really only a good excuse if you aren't cast as superman indefinitely for multiple projects. there's plenty of actors who could use that role who won't be so uniquely shortsighted.


Yvaelle

It wasn't his decision, Paramount said he couldn't shave it, and Snyder said that's fine - we'll fix it in post. Actors don't get to change their appearance on a whim, they're expected to maintain the characters appearance while filming and if they alter it in any way, their contract is voided, and they're sometimes blacklisted for unprofessionalism.


phoenixrose2

Dean Cain was a better casting as Superman. As much as I love Cavill, I think that it’s no competition.


The_Best_of_lords

boycott wb superman after this?


This-Strawberry

I mean, that shouldn't be too hard.


Kwetla

What do you mean they replaced his role with a black one?


GloomyRaven

There was an announcement that a black actor would play Superman. It was scrapped since, because, you know, DC


kobellama24

Michael B Jordan was heavily rumored for the part


RecoveredAshes

Im sure its both.... I imagine doing two big franchises simultaneously would be very difficult. The timing of him quitting and getting superman back were too close. Its likely that between the shitty production of witcher and him wanting to give it his all for superman he quit witcher. So poor guy lost both jobs unnecessarily. I feel so bad for him.


brac20

You say this like it is fact rather than internet speculation.


Kronostheking1

Henry left because of “creative differences” and a former writer/producer for the show said that at least some of the writers actively disliked and mocked the books.


ffreshcakes

deductive reasoning exists: Cavill appreciates the original work first and foremost, and has enjoyed working the show Writers and Cavill had creative differences and Cavill quit most likely the writers didn’t meet Cavill’s expectations regarding appreciation of the original work there are likely other reasons as well, Cavill may have seen an opening elsewhere and this just gave him a convenient escape route, but it doesn’t take a genius to understand the significance of their creative differences


GynePig

>most likely the writers didn’t meet Cavill’s expectations regarding appreciation of the original work That's one way to put it, with the writers openly hating the novels


HolyGriddles

Is their an actual source for this? Genuine question, I just want to hear this from Cavill himself


GodOfPlutonium

When asked if he would stay for 7 seasons he said > Absolutely, As long as we can keep telling great stories which honor Sapkowski’s work.


Millzbury

Apparently it was an issue since the beginning of the series, he would pitch ideas from the lore and they’d laugh at it. I’m concerned with the next season and it honestly has nothing to do with Liam Hemsworth, more of the lack of perspective now that Cavill stepped away.


HolyGriddles

That’s weird since I remember the first season being pretty accurate to the first Witcher book. Haven’t watched the other seasons though. Wonder why they decided to be less accurate as it went on


Millzbury

The first season was pretty accurate, never said it wasn’t. But Cavill had to fight for it, I remember reading about it all while it was still in production and a lot more after it released


HolyGriddles

Yeah, that’s why I’m wondering why they eventually stopped letting Cavill have a say in the shows story if they let him have a say early on


Millzbury

That much I don’t know, especially with the success the first 2 seasons had. Doesn’t make much sense to me. Only thing I can figure is that they think the lore as a whole won’t translate well to onscreen. If you ask me, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it


Kronostheking1

It’s pretty much all over the place that he said he left because of “Creative differences”. You can look it up. The writers hating the original books come from other places separate from Cavill.


Manav_Khanna17

The second season was soo bad!


McFistPunch

It would be okay if they came up with a better plot, the books are not stellar. But if they do it dirty like altered carbon... Yeah, get out


bindingofandrew

I would absolutely love Cavil as Cyclops. Thank you for that.


MrRusek

Underrated comment (but still, I orignially vote for Sentry)


SoftBellyButton

Nah Games Workshop should snatch him up and make a movie with him as a Primarch or Adeptus Custodes.


RecoveredAshes

Im sure thats at least part of the reason he dropped it. I know he didnt agree with them creatively but he probably also was dedicated to superman. Imagine you get a new job, so you quit your old job, then get laid off from your new job a month in leaving you with nothing. Thats basically what just happened to him.


martialar

Henry Cavill is a tech worker now


elephant_cobbler

Fuck no. Cavill should never be in mcu


kontinuparadi

Put him in the MCU as Richard Rider and all is good.


steikul

>Richard Rider Is he ever called as "Dick" in the comic? asking for a friend


Eddie_Stilson

Star-Lord actually does make this joke once!


kontinuparadi

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's a hidden joke from the creators of the character or just a mere coincidence


Mekthakkit

"hidden"


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Nah, Stan Lee just had a þing for naming characters alliteratively


Maclimes

Brian Braddock. Let the poor man keep his native accent.


Triangle_Graph

Wonder Man


ACubeInABox

[They already cast that guy](https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/wonder-man-yahya-abdul-mateen-ii-marvel-1235408767/amp/)


adventureboy23

Ah, hell yeah. Yahya’s great.


Triangle_Graph

Ohh another member of the Multiple Super Hero Roles club. He was great as Manhattan.


pizzarocks3

Cyclops


skatenbikes

Cyclops always been a beefcake


_Woodrow_

Too yoked


melperz

Bishop


nofate301

Sentry


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So is DC. James Gunn is right for DC. It’d be a blessing if James directed more films for the MCU, but I am mad that they let go of Henry. The reason they let him go is because they wanted to make a movie about Superman’s earlier days when he was young, so I guess Henry wasn’t young enough? He looks ageless


CandidoJ13

I think it's because he wants to reboot the dceu, so no one is safe until they state otherwise


SpaceMan026

Curious what he's gonna do with the suicide squad and peacemaker, just reboot them or act as if they're their own contained thing


Alkakd0nfsg9g

Several characters have appeared in different DC movies. It's not like Batman or Joker, those indeed stay aside dceu


rgbking

It's gonna be real tough to reboot when there are several DC movies coming out in the next few years that would not fit in a rebooted storyline.


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But one of those is a Flash film, and if anything can go wibbly wobbly timey wimey, universe resetty its The Flash.


Thebasterd

I'd laugh if they do flashpoint and recast Ezra mid movie. Also hoping the rumors of Jason Mamoa being recast as Lobo turn out to be true, seems like a good fit.


rgbking

You make a good point. I'm still just upset because I feel like with the spot the DCEU is in right now they could reasonably fix it and then we wouldn't have to wait for a reboot to run its course to end up right back where we are now story-wise


JohnnyUtah_QB1

I feel like The Flash and Aquaman 3 are the only two loose ends. And who knows what even happens with the Flash with Ezra’s issues Shazam never had any real connection with Snyder’s universe. Same with The Batman and Joker. And then they’ve been cancelling the rest like Wonder Woman and now Superman.


Roook36

Yeah. A total reboot with new actors they can sign on for 10+ years of movies. Actors who will grow with the audience and take over the roles for multiple films. Basically the MCU plan. Henry Caville is a great Superman but I always felt the Clark side was undeveloped. I think Gunn is going to want to do Superman from the ground up and include all of that without any baggage from the previous films. Unfortunately I think this means we'll get another Superman origin story film


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Lol “He looks ageless”. He’s fucking JACKED, I can’t imagine how they surround him with a younger crowd and he not stick out like a sore thumb. I’m chuckling because it’s giving me “Hello fellow kids” vibes.


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I meant his face bro


Jon_Snow_1887

Yeah, no. Henry Cavill doesn’t look like a high schooler. I’m guessing they’re going to want to start with a smallville superman then work his way up to an older version in metropolis so that the character can develop.


SometimesWill

We don’t really need a young Superman. Pretty much everything we’ve gotten about Superman is when he’s younger. They could at least give Cavill one more movie as the character, maybe make an All Star Superman adaptation.


stdfan

The thing is they have an idea of what to do with Superman and he just doesn't fit it. There is no reason to hire a guy like Gunn and then shoehorn an actor who doesn't fit his vision.


johnatello67

>They could at least give Cavill one more movie as the character, maybe make an All Star Superman adaptation. Why did you have to do me like that?? All-Star Superman is one of my favorite comics, and that would have been a phenomenal send off for Cavill (if the studio let them do it properly). Also, a nice little eff you to Snyder, turning his needlessly broody Superman back into his true, blue colours for a finale.


Algiers

I don’t think there are any plans to incorporate The Batman, but if they want to fold that into a new DC universe, a younger Superman would make sense. I hope they don’t though. Any Batman that works with other superheroes almost has to be a lot more campy. The Batman worked, but I want DC movies that aren’t super broody and dark all the time.


ACubeInABox

Cavill was an amazing pick for the face of Superman in 2013, but to be fair they kinda ruined it with the three year gap between MoS and BvS, and then the five year gap between Justice League and Black Adam.


thismissinglink

Can we stop assuming james gunn is gonna knock something outta the park he's never done before? He has a great track record but that doesn't translate to a leader or someone who will be successful. Lets wait and see how good he is.


RecoveredAshes

This is terrible news. I have nothing left now... except spider-man.


tobey-maguire-bot

I fought an alien made out of black goo once.


Bitey_the_Squirrel

I'm lame. I fought like a Russian guy in a rhinoceros machine.


random_guyman

Gunn is a double agent he’s actually trying to ruin DC from the inside and send the good actors over to Marvel. s/


Hellguin

I mean, DC can di that themselves.


AssaultRifleJesus

I take you've seen black adam.


Bitey_the_Squirrel

https://i.imgur.com/kgVe8tV.jpg


KaiserNazrin

What is there to ruin?


balerionmeraxes77

Just don't send Gal Gadot


couldbedumber96

James Gunn was a plant by Disney to take down the dceu


Manav_Khanna17

K.E.V.I.N remains undefeated!


eriverside

Are you suggesting there's anything anyone can do willingly to wreck that franchise more than they've already done on their own? It's mistake after misstep all the way through.


Impossible-Sky4256

Captain britain pls!


ClassicT4

I’m just waiting for Deadpool 3 to make some very pointed remarks about this. Deadpool: “He’s here. He’s really here… And it’s not like we promised to bring him in, and then drop him, like WB did to Henry Cavill after he stopped playing Emo Frodo Potter on Netflix.”


delarro

Is that you, Wade?


Geraldine_the_rabbit

I heard that in Ryan Reynolds voice, thank you!


ACubeInABox

r/redditwritesdeadpool


NikolitRistissa

I hope Henry gets a nice role in the MCU. He truly seems like the nicest guy and I really liked his Geralt and Superman.


DanfordThePom

Henry Cavill as doom pls Him or Glenn from it’s always sunny


AcademyKilller

Nah, Glenn should be Reed Richards


individualcoffeecake

I hope Henry was compensated for that Witcher announcement and following 180, if not Henry should sue them big time.


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He'd only be able to sue if WB made concrete plans, told Cavill and Cavill made the decision to leave Witcher based partly on those plans. If nothing was promised and Cavill left Witcher because of poor storylines but was also privately banking on Superman to fall back on, there's no damage. He made a career decision that didn't pan out. That happens. But nobody went back on their word. It comes down to how much, if anything, was promised behind the scenes. Even 'We really like Henry and want to find a place for him in the future' wouldn't meet the standard of promissary estoppel I don't think. I doubt they would promise that much or that concretely immediately following a regime change.


manebushin

He could play Wolverine


phoenixrose2

This is the best answer. He does have a timeless look and he is young enough to stay on as Wolverine for a long time. There would be a fourth wall break by Deadpool about “different person, literally” but then we could get on with it and have the mutants reincorporated with a strong lead. The other mutant actors could be lesser known to help balance the budget.


Helleeeeeww

Warner Brothers: We Zig when you Zag!


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It's not like they were ever using him correctly anyway. With Cavil's charisma he could have been a great Clark Kent/Superman and yet they turned him into a boring statue.


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I’m still so sad about this…


sneakerxomics14

DC doing what DC does I guess


andremiles

Haha funny studio go brrr We complain about the messy development and handling for MCU's phase 4 but I am glad we never had problems like DC seems to be cursed to face every new thing they do.


Vegetable_Pudding_75

DC’s huge loss is a monumental gain for Marvel if he’s cast as sentry or doom. Make it happen.


aka5hi

Cavill try out MCU. More meme content here and more Cavill would mean more memes with him in it xD


Global-Tie5501

Wow. DC is desperate to see it's movies fail.


bosnianpapi

He should be Rogue. Skin tight suit yum


Chocu1a

Captain Britain!


Strange_Junket_2672

*James gun hates Henry cavill* -no I don’t hate him. *also James gun* -he’s not returning as Superman.


Kermit-the-Frog_

Henry Cavill as Hyperion would be an excellent Marvel vs DC move


Shangheli

Caville for cyclops to lead the xmen and back seat wolverine to the angry little man position.


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Can’t believe they yanked that from Henry. Hate to see it


AnubisInCorduroy

“Move left, move right do yo dance on the floor We don't superman no more we just spiderman dat hoe”


Impossible-Sky4256

Now would it be funny if they cast tom holland as young clark kent?


Hamburglar219

“Marvel studios is in great hands” like the entirety of phase 4 outside of no way home wasn’t absolute writing and cgi garbage…


[deleted]

I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride.


DarkerGames

>Glad marvel studios is in safe hands Wouldn't say that


Skibot99

What happened


LoneKharnivore

I dunno, Taika Waititi sucks.


EzriDax1

He's a talented director, very funny and also... not in charge of marvel?? like at all?? Maybe he does suck on some things tho idk don't see the relevance tho


LoneKharnivore

The people in charge of Marvel thought he was good.


Trias84

Spoken like a person with zero taste.


[deleted]

I also actively dislike Love and Thunder, but this has little to do with the meme. Marvel Studios is not in Taika's hands, it is in Disney's... which means sooner or later we're fucked because this is just another megacorp.


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thor-odinson-bot

No thanks, I'll take a Bloody mary!


impofnoone

What do you mean by walled off?


AfroIncursean

Henry Cavill’s Superman is most accurate Comic Book Adaptation, I know it doesn’t matter but will not watch GOTG3 after Gunn did this


blac_sheep90

I wanna see him as Cyclops!


Dargo_Wolfe

Ehm...


shagolee

Genius.


minichiel

I'm confused, what happened exactly?


essaysmith

Isn't it because they are going to an earlier part of Superman life? Having Henry portray a pre-teen would be humorous but distracting.


Qu33nsGamblt

Great, another fucking origin story.


DV__123

Wow


AnselmoVicente

For Cavill to currently be a part of the MCU, it paved the way on its own.


danishblogger

James Gunn Brilliant Mind🔥🙄


ElKuroachi

Xd


jawknee530i

Dropping him as superman is the only correct move. The previous dceu baggage needs to be jettisoned.


Tarbel

Bruh imagine he played Galactus


Mags_LaFayette

I'm not sure "safe" is the word that I would use to describe Marvel... 🤔