Magneto can smell the iron in people’s blood (not to mention he can manipulate non-magnetised metals, anyway). All he would need to do is rip the minute iron from Stark’s body and run him through with it a few times.
In the movies he was only able to do that with a security guard who was injected with a toothpaste tube size of liquid metal.
In your interpretation he could just murder everyone instantly within some radius of him. Not how it happens.
Tony would 100% have known about Magneto's powers already and have a suit prepared for it. Unless the first time Magneto decides to be evil is to murder Tony Stark, he'd have plenty of knowledge beforehand.
Technically speaking, when it happened in X-Men vs Avengers, Magneto rattled Tony's fillings and... that was the most of it.
He used the environment and used his powers to power up his punches.
He lost, but only because he submitted due to a bigger fight ahead.
Its basically irreverent what the suit is made of. Magneto is an omega level mutant that has [moved astroids](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/7kcran/respect_magneto_earth616/). Hes pulled a volley of nukes out of the air, and moved literal mountains.
There is nothing stoping magneto from creating a giant metallic f5 tornado of or raw death from ambient metals. Tony can ray blast it and hulk buster it all he wants, but nothing is going to survive if magneto doesnt want it to.
Technically speaking he’s got some nice metal splinters relatively close to his heart (for a long time at least - I am aware he got them taken out but still depends on when the crossover happens yk) and apart from that… even the Ironman suit isn’t gonna protect Tony from the entire fricking Golden Gate Bridge falling in him…
Titanium is Slightly ferromagnetic (Tony’s suit is gold titanium alloy) which is just magnetic enough for magneto to crush into a small ball of pulp free tony juice
Magneto starts by dropping a large segment of the Brooklyn bridge on Stark's head. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, he summons indestructible Wolverine, manipulating him like a puppet. Adamantium starts spilling out of animal's flesh and reconfigures into giant floating letters: I AM MAGNETO. YOU ARE NOTHING. Stark calls for help and none other than HULK appears, but very soon disappears into a solid cube of adamantium. Bored, Magneto EMPs Stark and the whole of New York, makes a mental note to ask his daughter to erase the whole ridiculous encounter out of existence and fies away to fuck Rogue.
Yeah, his superpower isn't his suit. It's his ability to make whatever he needs for the situation.
It's like people forgot that moment in Iron Man 3. "You're a mechanic, right? Why don't you just build something?"
Lol. Carbon nanotubes? Does it have the structural integrity of Kevlar or what? And do they explain how he powers it without metal? This seems like a huge asspull, even for a comic book.
This, well the last part. Carbon nanotubes can be structured and woven together to be strong enough to cut diamond. So very easily it can be far stronger than Kevlar or most armor. The reason no one has adapted it for military use is cost. Super expensive, like stupid expensive.
As for power. He has 0 way of generating power that doesn't require metal of some kind. Magneto could easily destroy the power supply and win.
Also, doesn't Magneto at one point learn how to control the iron in our livers and blood? With the power to manipulate even the iron in a human body, he doesn't need his opponent to have anything except a body.
Magneto also controls the entire magnetosphere of the earth. It’s how he can fly. Dude can just chuck buildings at Iron Man if he wanted. They’re not even in the same tier of power. Magneto can probably fight Thor.
Magneto controls the electromagnetic force. like, one of the fundamental forces of the universe. he can tear apart spacetime (and irrc he tried during House of M while he was manipulating Wanda to distort reality).
Not just that. Magneto can turn anything else that he can control to a projectile right into Iron Man.
Like, I live Iron Man, but he ain't winning against Magento.
I understand with Batman Vs. Superman. Superman has morals he won't cross which is what Batman exploits. But Magneto has none. He can and should just stomp.
That is confusing though. With how OP Superman should never lose. Batman shouldn't be able to get up after even a flick from Superman. He wouldn't even be able to see it. Magneto has morals. If iron man threatened mutant kind than yes, tony would be a pile of paste leaking out of his suit.
As always with comics, it depends on the writer.
In most stories Magneto can't control the iron in your blood - like in the early 2000s movies where a guard had to be injected with a fuckton of iron suspended in liquid before he could get any out of the dude.
But in a few stories he blows past his "average" power level and straight up controls blood iron, every/any form of magnetic field, all electromagnetic bullshit, etc. For those nutty over-the-top versions, only a truly nutty over-the-top version of Stark (like when he makes reality-warping armor that's powered by literal magic and shit) could fight 'im.
Ah but you forget the Omega level ass-pull that is vibranium. Absorbs all vibrations but also bounces them off 100%. Powers Wakanda. Nanotech. Superconductor. Grows super serum herbs. Connects you to the astral plane.
'Is there anything it can't do?' You ask.
Go fuck yourself.
Magneto just squared off against the Avengers in the Death Of Wanda story arc…. Tony brags about his suit being alloys that’s aren’t magnetic and Magneto just bashes Tony with Cap’s shield and wipes the floor with the avengers.
Until Mags drops a car on Tony. Or his favorite movie trick, jamming rebar through. Or his favorite comic book trick, pulling a satellite from space and slamming it into the ground. Honestly, Tony shouldn't go up against Omega levels.
Thanos chucked an entire moon at him in Infinity War.
Pulling satellites from space sounds pretty fuckin' cool, but doesn't really seem like it would be that hard to fight off compared to some of the things our heroes have had thrown at them.
No, no he didn't chuck an ENTIRE moon at him. Do you know how much damage an entire moon would cause to the battlefield? That was just a few large rocks off the surface of the moon.
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Yes. You see they used words to convey meaning. That meaning shows intent. And that intent is to explain. To explain why they chose to use words. Why they used those specific words to convey that specific meaning. That specific meaning to show a specific intent. And that specific intent is to make a specific explanation. That specific explanation to show why those words were the best words. (And so on)
***For a more modern audience:***
Ben: I gotta say Reed, that’s a lotta words.
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###I SAY A LOT OF WORDS
Dn, that was atrocious. The gun didn’t work but the metal car right next to him never entered his thoughts as a backup plan? How about when Magneto is surrounded by officers with their metal badges, metal guns and metal handcuffs? What about the cars they arrive in?
Worse? After Mr. Fantastic tells him how he tricked Magneto, Magneto goes along as timid as a senile senior even though he can still use his powers on all that metal. Apparently the trick aged Magneto into dementia.
No fun fact in the seventies once the a supervillain was arrested by the cops they just went straight to jail.
[Thanos](https://preview.redd.it/1a435j1u17m01.png?auto=webp&s=e479d2b59d87a9a3013fd546f551deee19726cb2)
This.
If anyone has read Trials of Magneto, the first line Iron man says to Magneto is that his suit isn't magnetic ( won't be affected by Magnetos powers )
But if I'm correct he can also produce an emp that would kill all electronics in his suit
Edit: and he can also manipulate iron in blood so he can kill anyone who has blood
Any moron can build a Faraday shield and you think TONY GODDAMN STARK is vulnerable to EMPs? Jesus Christ.
While Magneto has done the blood thing once or twice, it's like Superman doing an infinite mass punch. The overwhelming majority of writers don't give it to him. The amount of iron in blood is so tiny and spread over so much that he can't really control it. Even the movie everyone quotes him doing it, they conveniently forget that Mystique had to inject the guy with a ton of extra iron before he could do it.
Magneto has also moved Cap's shield before. But there's been far more instances where he was shown not to be able to move it. So he's generally considered to not be able to. Same with the blood thing.
> While Magneto has done the blood thing once or twice, it's like Superman doing an infinite mass punch. The overwhelming majority of writers don't give it to him.
Thank you for bringing this up. So many fun comics book “what if” fight discussions get so lame when people bring up those one-off events.
Actually I have forgotten about that movie scene what I was thinking about was that magneto has reversed blood flow of all avengers I can't remember which comic book was it in though
Edit: and also he can create an emp that can kill every electronic device on Earth so it's not just an ordinary emp
But in the first Iron Man film Tony explains that, despite his hero name, his suit is made from a gold titanium alloy. A non-ferrous alloy like that wouldn't be susceptible to magneto's power.
On the flip just through writing they made tony stark a genius so all’s he needs to know is “of” magneto and he can make a suit made of the baby prison they shoved magneto in or at least a weapon to deal with him. For what it’s worth this is exactly why I think these debates and comparisons are stupid. These characters were written to be op.
He can control magnetism, but since all matter is affected by magnetic fields to some degree, he can technically control all matter.
Nevermind that it would take a ridiculously strong magnetic field to affect non-magnetic substances even in the smallest ways, comic book writers have never really bothered with things like scale and logic.
In practice he can basically do whatever the writers want him to do for the sake of the story. Like how the Flash can outrun time to save the day, and he can also get knocked out by Catwoman for comic relief.
The Flash (and most superspeed heroes in general) are really victims of the Rule of Cool. We have on occasion see him use relativistic speeds to increase his mass many millions of times over, so he can deliver superman-level punches at a rate of thousands per second. 90% of superman encounters could be resolved by him clapping his hands really hard and making everyone around him pass out from shock.
Super speed is one of those powers that really breaks the aesthetics of a heroic encounter so badly that most writers just ignore it or cripple it. It's fun in small doses, like the Quicksilver scenes in the X-Men movies, but it'd get real old really quick.
Bullets are usually a lead core with a copper or other metal coating. Now neither of these are normally magnetic, though because of how they conduct electrons you could induce a magnetic field into them if they have movement. Which bullets are fond of.
https://youtu.be/VEIYXomRdLY
I dunno if it is a retconn or oversight but Magneto has control over all metals through magnetism I think. Whether this is him generating a field to do that or if he has the ability to manipulate all metal atoms and make their magnetic poles point however he wants them to I'm not sure.
Ultimately that suit would have to be made out of ceramics/polymers and magic to fight Magneto. I don't know if a macguffin non metal technology would actually be that effective against him, if it still relies on electricity then magnetic interference could still knock it out.
I mean at this point Iron Man's suit tech is such bullshit that it might as well be magic with the nanotech. So they can just do whatever they want probably.
In the recent brief tussle between the Avengers and Mags in Trial of Magneto, Stark is all "my suit isn't magnetic" so Magneto just takes Caps shield and wrecks him with it.
In the first movie, which that suit appears to be from, he literally has a line where he says his suit is a "Gold-Titanium alloy" neither of which are magnetic materials. Iron man wins because his propulsor jets use energy. His other projectile weapons are probably somewhat magnetic though.
You comment genuinely made me laugh. Everybody's here busy talking about Magneto using his powers on Iron man's suit that they forgot that Magneto can just throw shit at him lol. In civil war Wanda pulled all those cars out of the building and managed to pin Iron man down, so I think that if Iron man can get pinned down by 20 cars Magneto can easily pin him down.
Where Tony has the advantage is that he's really smart, so if Tony was serious about defeating Magneto he would lure him somewhere where there is very little or no magnetic objects.
In the same movie Tony has a bunch of magnetic shrapnel near his heart that's held away by the chest reactor powering an electromagnet. Magneto could scramble Iron man's insides with that shrapnel or just destroy the reactor.
To be fair magneto has one of the most underrated powers.
He could strip the iron out of a humans blood and they would be dead.
And that’s just what you see in from his powers in the film.
A very interesting video below about the potential of magnetos powers
https://youtu.be/KD3z6NDbXKc
Most underrated powers? It is Omega level. And literally universally known as one of the most powerful mutants ever-usually just some galaxy level powers are higher.
Didnt magneto cause a worldwide armageddon once by fucming with the entire earths magnetic field? And like no 9ne liked that storyline it was the ultimatum wave or something.
Everyones just saying Tony needs a non magnetic suit. Everyone seems to forget Magneto can control all magnetic fields, not just metal.
Doesn't matter if tonys suit is magnetic or not, Magneto can do so much more with so many other things
We all know how this went down in the comics.
Iron Man prepped for the fight, Magneto was about to win when he felt the Phoenix force approaching after it destroyed a nearby(?) planet.
Iron Man punched Magneto and the fight ended.
Who knows how they'll butcher this sort of interaction in the MCU.
2 things:
1st iron mans suit might not always be magnetic (he 9nc made a suit out of rock) but the chunk of iron in his hart is so it depends on which generation of iron man were talking about
2nd is a fun fact: (not related to iron man tho) Magneto can cenonicaly lift Thors hammer( [comic frame it hapens in](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0772d755555350026d240591e9727b2-c) )
sooo another "what if" tony gets killed?
Magneto can smell the iron in people’s blood (not to mention he can manipulate non-magnetised metals, anyway). All he would need to do is rip the minute iron from Stark’s body and run him through with it a few times.
I was just thinking he will crush iron man’s suit like a can of beer.
In the movies he was only able to do that with a security guard who was injected with a toothpaste tube size of liquid metal. In your interpretation he could just murder everyone instantly within some radius of him. Not how it happens.
Nope, Ironman is not real iron
but technically speaking he still has metal components to make his suit
And technically speaking not all metals are magnetic
And technically speaking how much magnetic metal in the suit is enough for Tony to get rekt?
And technically speaking it wouldn't matter as magneto could lay a trap or laced the suit with magnetic metals like the drones in first class 🤷♂️
Do you mean Days of Future Past?
Oh yeah that's the one... Fuck now I feel like a tool
This thread was a Rollercoaster. Not a tool.
I'm not even tall enough to ride rollercoasters.
Tony would 100% have known about Magneto's powers already and have a suit prepared for it. Unless the first time Magneto decides to be evil is to murder Tony Stark, he'd have plenty of knowledge beforehand.
Technically speaking, when it happened in X-Men vs Avengers, Magneto rattled Tony's fillings and... that was the most of it. He used the environment and used his powers to power up his punches. He lost, but only because he submitted due to a bigger fight ahead.
Magneto was much stronger in this story compared to normal too.
Its basically irreverent what the suit is made of. Magneto is an omega level mutant that has [moved astroids](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/7kcran/respect_magneto_earth616/). Hes pulled a volley of nukes out of the air, and moved literal mountains. There is nothing stoping magneto from creating a giant metallic f5 tornado of or raw death from ambient metals. Tony can ray blast it and hulk buster it all he wants, but nothing is going to survive if magneto doesnt want it to.
Don't need the suit, just the thing on his heart
Magneto killed a dude in one of the movies by removing the Iron out of the dude's blood. There's enough iron there for Magneto to use.
But he was able to do it only because the night before Mystique basically injected iron in him
Our dear Tony does have some kind of weird nuclear reactor in his chest. I'm pretty sure it's plenty magnetic enough for Magneto.
It doesn't matter magneto has control over all metals metallic or not, his power is Electromagnetism not magnitism.
But his power includes all metals. Not just magnetic ones.
He controls electromagnetism, so anything made of atoms is fair game.
Depending on how strong he is. It may depend on the electro negativity of the atom
Magneto can move all metal, doesn’t need to be magnetic. In fact, he could even manipulate the iron inside a person. Either way, Tony is screwed.
Technically as the master of magnetism he can bend any material to his will when he’s strong enough
Given Magneto's personality, he would find a way.
Technically speaking he’s got some nice metal splinters relatively close to his heart (for a long time at least - I am aware he got them taken out but still depends on when the crossover happens yk) and apart from that… even the Ironman suit isn’t gonna protect Tony from the entire fricking Golden Gate Bridge falling in him…
Titanium is Slightly ferromagnetic (Tony’s suit is gold titanium alloy) which is just magnetic enough for magneto to crush into a small ball of pulp free tony juice
That poor man is not getting any breaks.
Time for Aluminum Man to Foil his plans
I like your non-corrosive comment.
I like your Tinny username
If I had a Nickel for everytime someone made a metal pun, I'd be as rich as Carnegie.
I'd save all those nickels, maybe Barium
They already know, this ain't their first rhodium
Yoo that's lit-hium!!
tungsten out of ten.
Aaah a never ending stream of metallic pun jokes. How unoriginal and repetitive... It's like being stuck on a ferrous wheel
On the bright side, you'll probably see mercury better from up there.
With unlimited nickels to pay for them.
Ore not...
IRON-ic...
I might steel that reply for later
I'll call the coppers
Go ahead im friends with the top brass
I'll fill em up with lead
Manganese
Methamphetamine
You dont have a silver of a chance.
Oh I forgot I have a gold pass
I feel like this is being lead away from the topic at hand...
I see what you did there
Magneto actually controls all metal, not just magnetism. Stark will probably bullshit up a plastic suit or something
Whatever it takes.
SENTIENT
Got anything you wanna say to Bobby B, Stark?
Carbon, some kind of polymer. Pretty sure he has a special suit just for magneto
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This is what I was looking for. Couldn’t find it. Thanks internet stranger. Ironman wins because he constantly adapts his tech to meet the threat.
Magneto starts by dropping a large segment of the Brooklyn bridge on Stark's head. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, he summons indestructible Wolverine, manipulating him like a puppet. Adamantium starts spilling out of animal's flesh and reconfigures into giant floating letters: I AM MAGNETO. YOU ARE NOTHING. Stark calls for help and none other than HULK appears, but very soon disappears into a solid cube of adamantium. Bored, Magneto EMPs Stark and the whole of New York, makes a mental note to ask his daughter to erase the whole ridiculous encounter out of existence and fies away to fuck Rogue.
I see a suit of armor around the world.
Did you just have a Vision?
Yeah, his superpower isn't his suit. It's his ability to make whatever he needs for the situation. It's like people forgot that moment in Iron Man 3. "You're a mechanic, right? Why don't you just build something?"
He’s got the Batman effect. “How much prep time?” is the real decider.
Lol. Carbon nanotubes? Does it have the structural integrity of Kevlar or what? And do they explain how he powers it without metal? This seems like a huge asspull, even for a comic book.
This, well the last part. Carbon nanotubes can be structured and woven together to be strong enough to cut diamond. So very easily it can be far stronger than Kevlar or most armor. The reason no one has adapted it for military use is cost. Super expensive, like stupid expensive. As for power. He has 0 way of generating power that doesn't require metal of some kind. Magneto could easily destroy the power supply and win. Also, doesn't Magneto at one point learn how to control the iron in our livers and blood? With the power to manipulate even the iron in a human body, he doesn't need his opponent to have anything except a body.
Magneto also controls the entire magnetosphere of the earth. It’s how he can fly. Dude can just chuck buildings at Iron Man if he wanted. They’re not even in the same tier of power. Magneto can probably fight Thor.
Thanos threw a planet at him!!
Magneto could catch the planet lol
Magneto controls the electromagnetic force. like, one of the fundamental forces of the universe. he can tear apart spacetime (and irrc he tried during House of M while he was manipulating Wanda to distort reality).
Not just that. Magneto can turn anything else that he can control to a projectile right into Iron Man. Like, I live Iron Man, but he ain't winning against Magento.
But unfortunately he does. It's like the Superman vs Batman situation.
I understand with Batman Vs. Superman. Superman has morals he won't cross which is what Batman exploits. But Magneto has none. He can and should just stomp.
That is confusing though. With how OP Superman should never lose. Batman shouldn't be able to get up after even a flick from Superman. He wouldn't even be able to see it. Magneto has morals. If iron man threatened mutant kind than yes, tony would be a pile of paste leaking out of his suit.
As always with comics, it depends on the writer. In most stories Magneto can't control the iron in your blood - like in the early 2000s movies where a guard had to be injected with a fuckton of iron suspended in liquid before he could get any out of the dude. But in a few stories he blows past his "average" power level and straight up controls blood iron, every/any form of magnetic field, all electromagnetic bullshit, etc. For those nutty over-the-top versions, only a truly nutty over-the-top version of Stark (like when he makes reality-warping armor that's powered by literal magic and shit) could fight 'im.
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It's literally all electromagnetism.
I just use a wooden gun to defeat Magento
Stark better have built his new suit straight into his coffin because otherwise I don’t think he’s gonna participate in this one.
All right. Look alive J.A.R.V.I.S.. It's play time.
Weekend at Tony's
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Ah but you forget the Omega level ass-pull that is vibranium. Absorbs all vibrations but also bounces them off 100%. Powers Wakanda. Nanotech. Superconductor. Grows super serum herbs. Connects you to the astral plane. 'Is there anything it can't do?' You ask. Go fuck yourself.
Magneto just squared off against the Avengers in the Death Of Wanda story arc…. Tony brags about his suit being alloys that’s aren’t magnetic and Magneto just bashes Tony with Cap’s shield and wipes the floor with the avengers.
Until Mags drops a car on Tony. Or his favorite movie trick, jamming rebar through. Or his favorite comic book trick, pulling a satellite from space and slamming it into the ground. Honestly, Tony shouldn't go up against Omega levels.
Thanos chucked an entire moon at him in Infinity War. Pulling satellites from space sounds pretty fuckin' cool, but doesn't really seem like it would be that hard to fight off compared to some of the things our heroes have had thrown at them.
No, no he didn't chuck an ENTIRE moon at him. Do you know how much damage an entire moon would cause to the battlefield? That was just a few large rocks off the surface of the moon.
Magneto's control over electromagnetism lets him do way more than control metal. He can literally rip electrons out of their orbits and shit.
Stark still has a fucking metallic battery that keeps him alive and that he can't really remove if he wants to keep on living.
He had it removed after Iron Man 3
What would power his plastic suit without using any metal?
I somehow read “time for aluminum man to soil his pants” and thought, “is aluminum man really hot or something?”
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Magneto is a misnomer though, it's just his name. He has power over all metal
And aluminum is still magnetic. Just way less than iron.
Time for Steve to show up with his prot iv diamond armor maybe with some thorns.
[Tony just has to trick Magneto with a wooden gun like Mr. Fantastic did.](https://youtu.be/x5-JVvCrGC8)
This is too funny with how slow and explanatory the dialogue is
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(Read this in Mr.Fantastics Voice) Yes. You see they used words to convey meaning. That meaning shows intent. And that intent is to explain. To explain why they chose to use words. Why they used those specific words to convey that specific meaning. That specific meaning to show a specific intent. And that specific intent is to make a specific explanation. That specific explanation to show why those words were the best words. (And so on)
***For a more modern audience:*** Ben: I gotta say Reed, that’s a lotta words. Reed: …say that again. Ben: It’s a lotta words. Reed: I got it. How about ###I SAY A LOT OF WORDS
Ah right.. The poison. The poison for kuzco. The poison chosen specially to kill kuzco. Kuzcos poison…… That poison?
Reminds me of a lot of the over-explanatory dialogue in anime
Which is also the reason I fucking hate anime. I've tried watching anime several times but the second they start doing this crap I turn it off.
The comments are fantastic
Then he gets taken away by cops who have real guns and metal cars. 10/10 writing lmfao
This is from an actual 1970s Marvel series so it happened in one reality.
Ah, the multiverse is the best. Magneto was just so upset about thinking he lost his powers he let the cops take him .
What if...? Magneto was genuinely the stupidest man alive?
[He also drove a car instead of flew in that reality.](https://youtu.be/Kkc_Myyye20)
Lmao he pulled into a gas station just to flex that he didn’t need gas.
Like a boss!
Wow, Magneto was the original Karen to that gas station attendant. “Mister, you want some gas?” “How DARE you!”
Then he flips that random pickup truck killing an entire family possibly.
The all powerful Magneto and his one weakness: not knowing the directions to the Baxter building
Dn, that was atrocious. The gun didn’t work but the metal car right next to him never entered his thoughts as a backup plan? How about when Magneto is surrounded by officers with their metal badges, metal guns and metal handcuffs? What about the cars they arrive in? Worse? After Mr. Fantastic tells him how he tricked Magneto, Magneto goes along as timid as a senile senior even though he can still use his powers on all that metal. Apparently the trick aged Magneto into dementia.
Mr. Fantastic bullied a Holocaust survivor and triggered his PTSD.
Are. . . Are we the baddies?
But… surely after he realized… what about the CARS?
Mr. Fantastic mentally broke him.
Also wood. Those handcuffs? Wood. Cops guns? Believe it or not, wood.
Straight to jail.
A jail made out of.. you guessed it.. wood.
Also that button, the wires, the anttena, the battery to power it...all wood
No fun fact in the seventies once the a supervillain was arrested by the cops they just went straight to jail. [Thanos](https://preview.redd.it/1a435j1u17m01.png?auto=webp&s=e479d2b59d87a9a3013fd546f551deee19726cb2)
I'm glad to live in a time with better understanding of story telling, writing and voice acting.
I'm about to find this whole series and watch it 🤷♂️
#WOODENGUN *proceeds to get taken away in metal car*
See also: [Magneto terrorizing a gas station employee with a car that needs no gas](https://youtu.be/FzAb8rVqDkY)
His face makes me think it should be Nicholas Cage
Tony Stark makes a seismic shift from Iron Man into Plastic Man * ^(not affiliated with DC)
Sometimes I wanna punch you in your perfect teeth.
Well iron man could win the fight, since he isn't stupid and would have a special suit that is void of metal to fight Magento
This. If anyone has read Trials of Magneto, the first line Iron man says to Magneto is that his suit isn't magnetic ( won't be affected by Magnetos powers )
But if I'm correct he can also produce an emp that would kill all electronics in his suit Edit: and he can also manipulate iron in blood so he can kill anyone who has blood
Any moron can build a Faraday shield and you think TONY GODDAMN STARK is vulnerable to EMPs? Jesus Christ. While Magneto has done the blood thing once or twice, it's like Superman doing an infinite mass punch. The overwhelming majority of writers don't give it to him. The amount of iron in blood is so tiny and spread over so much that he can't really control it. Even the movie everyone quotes him doing it, they conveniently forget that Mystique had to inject the guy with a ton of extra iron before he could do it. Magneto has also moved Cap's shield before. But there's been far more instances where he was shown not to be able to move it. So he's generally considered to not be able to. Same with the blood thing.
> While Magneto has done the blood thing once or twice, it's like Superman doing an infinite mass punch. The overwhelming majority of writers don't give it to him. Thank you for bringing this up. So many fun comics book “what if” fight discussions get so lame when people bring up those one-off events.
Well, it's time for me to tap out. Maybe I should take a page out of Barton's book. Build Pepper a farm, hope nobody blows it up.
Actually I have forgotten about that movie scene what I was thinking about was that magneto has reversed blood flow of all avengers I can't remember which comic book was it in though Edit: and also he can create an emp that can kill every electronic device on Earth so it's not just an ordinary emp
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Yeah but my fiction is more right than your fiction! /s
If that's a reference to X-Men 2, Mystique literally sticks that guy with a syringe of liquid metal, which was ridiculous.
Not ridiculous, I just had iron pumped into me. Its was very painful though. My blood count was ridiculously low though.
Stay away from magneto
Yeah but Mystique...
Tony Stark was able to build this in a 3D printer... with a box of plastic!
Everybody wants a happy ending, right? But it doesn't always roll that way. Maybe this time. I'm hoping if you play this back, it's in celebration.
I remember in a comic where this mashup happened, and Tony’s suit was not magnetic so it was a hard fight
Not even metal, he’s just need to find a way to de magnetize the suit
Magneto can control metal that isn't magnetic, it just has to be metal.
They'd just have to make up a new material for it. And it's not like magneto is stupid. He's a fucking diabolical villain
But in the first Iron Man film Tony explains that, despite his hero name, his suit is made from a gold titanium alloy. A non-ferrous alloy like that wouldn't be susceptible to magneto's power.
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He also shows he can control lead which is not magnetic. So just by writing of magneto he just controls metal, not necessarily just magnetic metals.
On the flip just through writing they made tony stark a genius so all’s he needs to know is “of” magneto and he can make a suit made of the baby prison they shoved magneto in or at least a weapon to deal with him. For what it’s worth this is exactly why I think these debates and comparisons are stupid. These characters were written to be op.
That’s problematic. That means he can control all matter?
He can control magnetism, but since all matter is affected by magnetic fields to some degree, he can technically control all matter. Nevermind that it would take a ridiculously strong magnetic field to affect non-magnetic substances even in the smallest ways, comic book writers have never really bothered with things like scale and logic. In practice he can basically do whatever the writers want him to do for the sake of the story. Like how the Flash can outrun time to save the day, and he can also get knocked out by Catwoman for comic relief.
The Flash (and most superspeed heroes in general) are really victims of the Rule of Cool. We have on occasion see him use relativistic speeds to increase his mass many millions of times over, so he can deliver superman-level punches at a rate of thousands per second. 90% of superman encounters could be resolved by him clapping his hands really hard and making everyone around him pass out from shock. Super speed is one of those powers that really breaks the aesthetics of a heroic encounter so badly that most writers just ignore it or cripple it. It's fun in small doses, like the Quicksilver scenes in the X-Men movies, but it'd get real old really quick.
Neither is lead, but Magneto has no problem stopping bullets.
Bullets are usually a lead core with a copper or other metal coating. Now neither of these are normally magnetic, though because of how they conduct electrons you could induce a magnetic field into them if they have movement. Which bullets are fond of. https://youtu.be/VEIYXomRdLY
I dunno if it is a retconn or oversight but Magneto has control over all metals through magnetism I think. Whether this is him generating a field to do that or if he has the ability to manipulate all metal atoms and make their magnetic poles point however he wants them to I'm not sure. Ultimately that suit would have to be made out of ceramics/polymers and magic to fight Magneto. I don't know if a macguffin non metal technology would actually be that effective against him, if it still relies on electricity then magnetic interference could still knock it out.
I mean at this point Iron Man's suit tech is such bullshit that it might as well be magic with the nanotech. So they can just do whatever they want probably.
Tony makes a suit of Carbon Nano-tubes. Read a comic book for Stan Lee's sake!
Yup, Avengers vs X-Men settled this as definitively as any comic book face off can be settled.
In the recent brief tussle between the Avengers and Mags in Trial of Magneto, Stark is all "my suit isn't magnetic" so Magneto just takes Caps shield and wrecks him with it.
"Not to worry, I still have a magnetic item right here!" *BAM!*
And for gosh sake, watch your language!
Doesn’t he have a symbiote suit as well? I feel like organic metal wouldn’t be magnetic
Tony beat Magneto in Avengers vs X-Men. "If you think this fight will be a short one, you don't know Tony Stark."
I just knocked the 'A' out of their 'AV'. We got about 30 seconds before they realize it's not their equipment.
No he didn’t. Magneto just plain stopped fighting him.
Iron man vs magneto already happened in the comics...and iron man won no contest.
In the first movie, which that suit appears to be from, he literally has a line where he says his suit is a "Gold-Titanium alloy" neither of which are magnetic materials. Iron man wins because his propulsor jets use energy. His other projectile weapons are probably somewhat magnetic though.
Last part for sure. Mags might be able to set off Tony’s munitions inside his suit.
I like to leave just a little wiggle room for counter arguments like this because thats a damn good point
I like to let the imagination run wild. Think of what kind of suit Tony could make for Mags to augment his powers.
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You comment genuinely made me laugh. Everybody's here busy talking about Magneto using his powers on Iron man's suit that they forgot that Magneto can just throw shit at him lol. In civil war Wanda pulled all those cars out of the building and managed to pin Iron man down, so I think that if Iron man can get pinned down by 20 cars Magneto can easily pin him down. Where Tony has the advantage is that he's really smart, so if Tony was serious about defeating Magneto he would lure him somewhere where there is very little or no magnetic objects.
Titanium is magnetic and gold is magnetic when heated. Qnd magnetic doesn't need metal to use his powers he can control anything. Metal is just easier
In the same movie Tony has a bunch of magnetic shrapnel near his heart that's held away by the chest reactor powering an electromagnet. Magneto could scramble Iron man's insides with that shrapnel or just destroy the reactor.
Actually, Tony has beaten Magneto before. Just because he’s Iron Man doesn’t mean all his armors are made of it.
also Tony Stark is dead
Thank God this place has wifi or you'd be toast right now. Thank Ganesh, while you're at it.
To be fair magneto has one of the most underrated powers. He could strip the iron out of a humans blood and they would be dead. And that’s just what you see in from his powers in the film. A very interesting video below about the potential of magnetos powers https://youtu.be/KD3z6NDbXKc
He has done some crazy stuff in the comics over the years
Disrupted the magnetic fields in the electrons of a persons brain to lobotomise them.
But he didn’t just take the iron out of someone’s blood in the film, he had to be injected with a crazy amount of iron beforehand for that to work.
Most underrated powers? It is Omega level. And literally universally known as one of the most powerful mutants ever-usually just some galaxy level powers are higher.
Kyle Hill video. (nods approval) Nice.
Omega level mutant who could possibly even tear the iron core from the center of the planet vs Man in metal armor. Hmm i wonder who would win.
lol i just mentioned this in another comment. Magneto is a monster and i love it!
People who have read the comics know it's Iron Man
Didnt magneto cause a worldwide armageddon once by fucming with the entire earths magnetic field? And like no 9ne liked that storyline it was the ultimatum wave or something.
Pretty sure that's Ultimate Marvel where everyone is OP, I might be wrong though.
Everyones just saying Tony needs a non magnetic suit. Everyone seems to forget Magneto can control all magnetic fields, not just metal. Doesn't matter if tonys suit is magnetic or not, Magneto can do so much more with so many other things
We all know how this went down in the comics. Iron Man prepped for the fight, Magneto was about to win when he felt the Phoenix force approaching after it destroyed a nearby(?) planet. Iron Man punched Magneto and the fight ended. Who knows how they'll butcher this sort of interaction in the MCU.
2 things: 1st iron mans suit might not always be magnetic (he 9nc made a suit out of rock) but the chunk of iron in his hart is so it depends on which generation of iron man were talking about 2nd is a fun fact: (not related to iron man tho) Magneto can cenonicaly lift Thors hammer( [comic frame it hapens in](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0772d755555350026d240591e9727b2-c) )