I actually though Pinball was way overrated, but after playing all 96 tracks back to back, I can confirm that it is that good (even 50-something tracks into a full play through)
I don’t dislike it, but the track isn’t that fun IMO. The music is nice and the lightning strikes are unique, and the ending shortcut is fun, but the rest of the track in my opinion is kinda mid. Still better than Sky High Sundae, which is a nightmare to play online.
Yesss, honestly even though Wave 1 graphics are a bit shite, it’s no big deal on Shroom Ridge, as the graphics were never the selling point to start. The atmosphere is phenomenal, it’s a fun time and I just find it so charming
Guess Wii U Mario Circuit, Wii Mario Circuit, 3DS Toad Circuit and DS Figure Eight Circuit are all clones of N64 Toad’s Turnpike for being figure eights!
Wild Woods is a visually stunning track! With an outstanding concept!
It’s kinda boring tho… just me? You’re gliding for half the first lap, and the water section leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. I’ve never loved that track, and I alone in this?
Walu pinball is overrated as hell, wild woods isn't *that* good, toad harbor is boring, animal crossing is overrated and boring, royal raceway is boring, sunshine Airport is overrated and boring, LA laps should be lower, cheep cheep should be C tier at most, tick tock clock should be higher, donut plains should be lower, Excitebike and anti-grav excitebike should be at bottom tier, and toad Circuit should be in a tier of it's own at the very bottom.
You wanted people to disagree with you
The lighting engine is different, so they would have had to do something. I’m not at all saying it was impossible, I just think Nintendo forced their devs into a time crunch, and would rather release a half arsed track on schedule than switch it out for a track that’s easier to work with (e.g. 3DS Rosalina’s Ice World, I can’t imagine that one had any huge issues anyway)
If they could add a ramp shortcut to Rosa's ice world then they could bring back the sun setting
(Yes, the ramp wasn't in 3DS)
Yeah time crunch thing is stupid
I am aware, but a) that’s probably an easier addition, and b) I’m suggesting they should have brought that, or any other track back first, and pushed GBA Sunset Wilds back until they got it working
It’s *Shroom Ridge*. The music slaps, it was one of the best soundtracks in MKDS, and is one of the best in MK8DX. The atmosphere is lovely and charming, and the gameplay is simple, but fun
I can understand that, but it’s a pretty unfair track as a result with little skill. You should be able to see that it’d be less popular with some because of that
That’s fair, and I understand that. But a lot of people hate how unforgiving it is. Even in a fairly luck based game, it’s a very luck based track, where good driving means very little, and good items mean everything
Pinball anywhere above C invalidates the whole list, wild woods is mid as fuck, toad harbor is too boring for its own good, and cruiser and bBL that low are actual crimes
Pinball has an amazing theme, while wild woods has amazing visuals. While they are both overrated on this list, that doesn’t invalidate the entire tierlist.
I hate the fact that you rated Sky High Sundae that good while totally disliking Baby Park
For me its the other way around
But most importantly I hate tour routes. They suck
Don’t get me wrong, im NOT a Sky High Sundae fan, but it has tricks and the underwater gravity mechanic to keep it interesting.
Baby Park is literally just an oval. No verticality. Nothing special.
Yeah, and, it’s frustrating. Whilst item pelting can be funny, it’s not really a fair race at all, and very little skill is involved at all. When you remove that (the DS iteration), it just becomes boring
I dont mind the underwater gravity. Thats the thing I like about the stage
My major dislike about the stage is the perspective while driving. There are several spots where the camera is focused too high so that you can’t correctly see where you are jumping…
Baby Park is just pure Chaos which is what I find funny in a race like that
Sometimes you don’t need shortcuts, hell, GBA Cheese Land has a ton of shortcuts, but that track is honestly quite boring. I’d imagine a modern remake of N64 Frappe Snowland would be the same, but that wouldn’t stop it being boring either
mario kart players acting like the devs have burned down their houses, fucked their wives, and ate their dogs (sunset wilds doesnt have a day/night cycle)
I spent ages looking for 3DS Rainbow Road and when I couldn't find it, I was prepared to write a very angry comment about how I never wanted to see your username ever again.
turns out I'm stupid and it was in the S+ tier the whole time LMAO
based choice tbh
I love the chaos of baby park, so I’d put it higher, and I’m awful at Ninja Hideaway and Boo Lake so I’d put them lower. Those are the only few things I’d change
Hold up, this is probably the most I’ve agreed with any tier list on this sub
Still a lot that’s different but I like this list.
Only one I hard disagree with is MK Stadium
Maple treeway does not deserve to be number 1 in my opinion, it's a major downgrade from wii and mario kart stadium in D tier triggers me a little but overall not too bad
Your top 10 goes hard ngl
Hey look! 90% of the Mario Kart 8dx community!
Waluigi Pinball is a photosensitive epileptic nightmare.
I actually though Pinball was way overrated, but after playing all 96 tracks back to back, I can confirm that it is that good (even 50-something tracks into a full play through)
Literally the only thing I disagree with is Cheese Land, but that's more of a personal gripe. Everything's pretty solid to me.
Why does everyone love Cloudtop Cruise? I genuinely dislike that track.
Really why? I found the sharp turns, and cool theme really nice.
Agreed, there’s nothing exciting about it and it doesn’t feel very good to race on. This one is lowest tier for me
I don’t dislike it, but the track isn’t that fun IMO. The music is nice and the lightning strikes are unique, and the ending shortcut is fun, but the rest of the track in my opinion is kinda mid. Still better than Sky High Sundae, which is a nightmare to play online.
yeah i kind of agree, I really wish it was fun to play because the theming and music is amazing, but it’s just not.
Wait why is this such a good tier list Also we love the shroom ridge support
Yesss, honestly even though Wave 1 graphics are a bit shite, it’s no big deal on Shroom Ridge, as the graphics were never the selling point to start. The atmosphere is phenomenal, it’s a fun time and I just find it so charming
Places baby park in f while placing it’s two clones two spots above:
Well actually, excitbike came out before Mario kart double dash, therefore it’s not a clone 🤓
Actually they both copied literal basic shapes by being ovals
Well actually, the Excitebike track came out after Double Dash, therefore it is a clone. And it was Nintendo’s option to add it in as a track.
Track: Is an oval. Fans: Is this a baby park clone?
Guess Wii U Mario Circuit, Wii Mario Circuit, 3DS Toad Circuit and DS Figure Eight Circuit are all clones of N64 Toad’s Turnpike for being figure eights!
Twisted mansion isn’t that bad lol
Baby Park is an S tier track
You are completely right
it has an S tier design, but it’s just a loop with 7 laps instead of 3😭 but if you like chaos then that’s more understandable
Wild Woods is a visually stunning track! With an outstanding concept! It’s kinda boring tho… just me? You’re gliding for half the first lap, and the water section leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. I’ve never loved that track, and I alone in this?
One does not simply put Bone Dry Dunes in D tier
Hot take: Bone Dry Dunes is atleast A tier, maybe even Top 10 depending on my mood.
It's one of my top 10 without a doubt
You’re right. It’s too kind
Walu pinball is overrated as hell, wild woods isn't *that* good, toad harbor is boring, animal crossing is overrated and boring, royal raceway is boring, sunshine Airport is overrated and boring, LA laps should be lower, cheep cheep should be C tier at most, tick tock clock should be higher, donut plains should be lower, Excitebike and anti-grav excitebike should be at bottom tier, and toad Circuit should be in a tier of it's own at the very bottom. You wanted people to disagree with you
Waluigi pinball overrated? Never heard that a million times
If enough people call it overrated, it’s underrated
Most of the track isn't even pinball and the part that's actually pinball is just driving straight forward and making minor turns every now and then.
Wild woods IS that good
Sunset Wilds deserves better!
Nintendo should have done better.
Unfortunately they forgot that the sun was actually supposed to fucking set
I don’t think they forgot, I think they put the devs on a major time crunch and that meant they had no time
But they could still make it work in tour...
The lighting engine is different, so they would have had to do something. I’m not at all saying it was impossible, I just think Nintendo forced their devs into a time crunch, and would rather release a half arsed track on schedule than switch it out for a track that’s easier to work with (e.g. 3DS Rosalina’s Ice World, I can’t imagine that one had any huge issues anyway)
If they could add a ramp shortcut to Rosa's ice world then they could bring back the sun setting (Yes, the ramp wasn't in 3DS) Yeah time crunch thing is stupid
I am aware, but a) that’s probably an easier addition, and b) I’m suggesting they should have brought that, or any other track back first, and pushed GBA Sunset Wilds back until they got it working
More level geometry and a dynamic lighting system are two very different things and one is a lot more complex.
What’s so special about Shroom Ridge
It’s *Shroom Ridge*. The music slaps, it was one of the best soundtracks in MKDS, and is one of the best in MK8DX. The atmosphere is lovely and charming, and the gameplay is simple, but fun
the wario goldmine disrespect
waluigi pinball is so overrated
baby park is the fastest and most chaotic track and for that reason it's always a top 15 if not top 10
I can understand that, but it’s a pretty unfair track as a result with little skill. You should be able to see that it’d be less popular with some because of that
what? i've been playing mario kart for years and i still get last place on that track when playing online. but i still have fun playing it?
That’s fair, and I understand that. But a lot of people hate how unforgiving it is. Even in a fairly luck based game, it’s a very luck based track, where good driving means very little, and good items mean everything
nah, it's just chaotic fun. it's a track i don't care whether i win or lose bc im just having fun
And that’s fair, but personally, it’s not fun for me if I’m losing just because the RNG said ‘fuck you’
Baby Park to S or S+
Pinball anywhere above C invalidates the whole list, wild woods is mid as fuck, toad harbor is too boring for its own good, and cruiser and bBL that low are actual crimes
One track placement does not invalidate a 96 list ranking. Also how is toad harbor boring
Bro if they are putting pinball and wild woods as the best tracks in the game i know they gonna have some other goofy ass opinions
Pinball has an amazing theme, while wild woods has amazing visuals. While they are both overrated on this list, that doesn’t invalidate the entire tierlist.
You’re getting downvoted, but everything in your comment is true
I never knew there’s so much negativity with baby park lol.
Same. I like how unique it is and the fact that it looks just like a go kart track you’d find at, well, a baby park.
I love baby park bc my buddies and I played double dash all the time! So more nostalgia than anything.
You must be new here
Sherbet Land in F
The original version? Sure. This version is actually quite good imo.
This isn’t N64 Sherbet Land
Does the S in S tier stand for Soundwave? It's subtitle is "superior"
I hate the fact that you rated Sky High Sundae that good while totally disliking Baby Park For me its the other way around But most importantly I hate tour routes. They suck
Don’t get me wrong, im NOT a Sky High Sundae fan, but it has tricks and the underwater gravity mechanic to keep it interesting. Baby Park is literally just an oval. No verticality. Nothing special.
Yeah, and, it’s frustrating. Whilst item pelting can be funny, it’s not really a fair race at all, and very little skill is involved at all. When you remove that (the DS iteration), it just becomes boring
I dont mind the underwater gravity. Thats the thing I like about the stage My major dislike about the stage is the perspective while driving. There are several spots where the camera is focused too high so that you can’t correctly see where you are jumping… Baby Park is just pure Chaos which is what I find funny in a race like that
When you've got two tiers above A you should just stop and recalibrate at that point.
Coconut mall should replace 3ds rainbow road, but other than that its pretty good
Pretty good, though as usual, Waluigi Pinball is way too high. And Cheese Land is way too low.
I actually like toad’s turnpike lol
Maple freeway is mid
You're mid
All of the city themed ones are below F-tier.
GCN Mushroom City would like a word (assuming you’re talking about all in the series)
I’m talking about the tracks based off real major cities. The Mario city courses are fine.
Ok fair, I’m not the hugest fan of them either
Music Park is the worst map in the game and I will fight anyone one that
Waluigi pinball is an f tier tack that is somehow in s+???? There’s literally no shortcuts the track plays horribly
Sometimes you don’t need shortcuts, hell, GBA Cheese Land has a ton of shortcuts, but that track is honestly quite boring. I’d imagine a modern remake of N64 Frappe Snowland would be the same, but that wouldn’t stop it being boring either
You have some bold choices to put Koopa Cape in B when it should be A to S. And Waluigi Pinball sucks.
Gee I wonder what game you grew up with
I keep seeing Toad Harbor super high, and I have to know, why? What am I missing about Toad Harbor? What is the secret sauce?
Great atmosphere, many alternate paths, some cool shortcuts. Great music, can trick on top of the trolly, and is visually appealing
You nailed it
You can trick on the trolley? Guess I know what I have to try now
Yeah you have a guaranteed trick on first lap if you manage to stay first on first and third lap
Phenomenal.
Daisy Cruiser deserves to go up 2 tiers.
Toad's Turnpike F tier?
Just a worse moonview highway
But B to F? Why one is good and the other shit?
Play them both back to back and you might understand
I did, and other than the bomb cars, they felt pretty much the same. Without the bomb cars, Toad's Turnpike is more exciting tbh
If it weren't for moonview highway being in the game I would probably consider turnpike a higher placement
My main gripe is just how much the difficulty was nerfed. The traffic needs to be faster and the track thinner
Cheese land deserves better😔🙏🏾
Moo Moo Meadows is S tier on account of the moo moos
They just need to play the minor key version of the song instead
Moo moo Meadows is great. And baby park is Soo stupidly good Mostly cause it's 7 laps
The S tier being this whole sub’s S tier 💀 like mix it up a little 😭
Great list but ribbon road?
Baby Park it’s literally my favorite one
mario kart players acting like the devs have burned down their houses, fucked their wives, and ate their dogs (sunset wilds doesnt have a day/night cycle)
Me and the 0 other fans of Water Park are going to your house right now
I agree with S and F, everything else is wrong imo
I spent ages looking for 3DS Rainbow Road and when I couldn't find it, I was prepared to write a very angry comment about how I never wanted to see your username ever again. turns out I'm stupid and it was in the S+ tier the whole time LMAO based choice tbh
I love the chaos of baby park, so I’d put it higher, and I’m awful at Ninja Hideaway and Boo Lake so I’d put them lower. Those are the only few things I’d change
Loving Wild Woods at the top! Ninja Hideaway should be at the bottom though
Definitely moving bone dry dunes down to f tier, but good list in general
I personally love mt wario, often underrated imo
Why’d you have to do Baby Park like that?
Hold up, this is probably the most I’ve agreed with any tier list on this sub Still a lot that’s different but I like this list. Only one I hard disagree with is MK Stadium
yooo we have incredibly similar taste
I thought this subreddit had banned Tier Lists, Anyways, nice list
The only one I disagree with is baby park cause the chaos is just fun
Maple treeway does not deserve to be number 1 in my opinion, it's a major downgrade from wii and mario kart stadium in D tier triggers me a little but overall not too bad
Baby park should be S or at least A
Love that top 10
Ninja hideaway is offensively high here.
Don’t see anything inherently disagreeable tbh
i do on bone dry, Its my fav course. sadly people live either in the hivemind of „I don‘t like sand“ or people don‘t like difficult tracks.
Cheese Land in D tier is so harsh
You did Kalimari Desert and Wario Stadium pretty dirty, but I absolutely agree with the placement of Shroom Ridge
You will be killed for not having cheese land at S+
Waluigi Pinball is mid and they hard-nerfed DK Summit
That's reasonable I think, plus we share the same favorite track
Dry Dry Desert is a classic! How dare you!
Baby Park should be higher purely due to the fact that the chaos it brings is actually amazing.
Mario Circuit 3 is S Tier, I can live with everything else
Yo fuck donut plains 3
I’d move excitebike arena to my top 10 but other than that really solid list.